OSWALD WAS A ____________??
David Von Pein
>>> "OK, Oswald was a liar. And...?" <<<
Is this a "Fill In The Blank" type of quiz?
If so.....
OSWALD WAS A LIAR AND __________________.
Answers --- ....And a double-murderer, a wife-abuser, a Russian
defector, a Communist sympathizer, a Marxist, an attempted murderer
(Walker and Officer McDonald), a manipulator extraordinaire, a lousy
provider for his family, a penny-pinching miser that would make Jack
Benny proud, and a double-murderer (worth a replay there). And, if you
believe Judyth Vary-Baker's tale, Oz was an unfaithful husband too.
Nice resume huh? No wonder Truly thought he was a "nice young man". ;)
CTers are free to add their versions of what Oswald was.....e.g.:
A saint....a patsy (multiple times over)....an FBI agent....a KGB
agent....a CIA agent....an ONI operative of some ilk....a man innocent
of every murder or attempted murder he was ever accused of in his
life....a wonderful hubby and father....and a guy who was trying to
SAVE the President from his 11/22/63 fate.
And he gave blood every Wednesday, always washed after pissing, always
put a new roll of paper on the roller, and bowed at the waist whenever
Marina entered the room.
JLeyd...@aol.com
> >>> "OK, Oswald was a liar. And...?" <<<
>
> Is this a "Fill In The Blank" type of quiz?
>
> If so.....
This essentially is how the "two Oswald" theory came into being. The
original was such a loser, the CTs had to reinvent him. Joan Mellen,
for example, had him working for the CIA, FBI and Customs Service.
Not bad for a 10th-grade dropout.
JGL
aeffects
one can always, ALWAYS tell fanatical Lone Nut's ("over-the-top" as
adimitted by young Dave here). *Especially* the Bugliosi jockstrap
holders. They always seek solace [from the travails of
alt.conspiracy.jfk] in their hero, Vincent.
The fools should be taking a peek at John Armstrong's, Harvey and Lee
(or perhaps they have...!)
The Nutter's, they be out there.... WAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY out there.
Someone pump some air to them.....
Walt
> On Apr 11, 1:47�am, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > >>> "OK, Oswald was a liar. And...?" <<<
>
> > Is this a "Fill In The Blank" type of quiz?
>
> > If so.....
>
> This essentially is how the "two Oswald" theory came into being. The
> original was such a loser, the CTs had to reinvent him. Joan Mellen,
> for example, had him working for the CIA, FBI and Customs Service.
> Not bad for a 10th-grade dropout.
>
> JGL
>
>
>
>
>
very core of being of an intelligence agent is his ability to know
when to lie, and how to lie intelligently. To be an intelligence agent
the person must be an accomplished and intelligent liar. A
successful agent can't be a stupid liar ( like many LNer's) He must
know when to lie and then lie intelligently.
Ok, I'm ready for the next blank.
__________________.
>
> > Answers --- ....And a double-murderer, a wife-abuser, a Russian
> > defector, a Communist sympathizer, a Marxist, an attempted murderer
> > (Walker and Officer McDonald), a manipulator extraordinaire, a lousy
> > provider for his family, a penny-pinching miser that would make Jack
> > Benny proud, and a double-murderer (worth a replay there). And, if you
> > believe Judyth Vary-Baker's tale, Oz was an unfaithful husband too.
>
> > Nice resume huh? No wonder Truly thought he was a "nice young man". ;)
>
> > CTers are free to add their versions of what Oswald was.....e.g.:
>
> > A saint....a patsy (multiple times over)....an FBI agent....a KGB
> > agent....a CIA agent....an ONI operative of some ilk....a man innocent
> > of every murder or attempted murder he was ever accused of in his
> > life....a wonderful hubby and father....and a guy who was trying to
> > SAVE the President from his 11/22/63 fate.
>
> > And he gave blood every Wednesday, always washed after pissing, always
> > put a new roll of paper on the roller, and bowed at the waist whenever
> > Marina entered the room.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
David Von Pein
>>> "OSWALD WAS A LIAR AND he was trained by American intelligence. .... To be an intelligence agent the person must be an accomplished and intelligent liar." <<<
That must be why "intelligent liar" Oswald wrote an obvious lie on
Mrs. Paine's typewriter on November 9, 1963 (re: "The FBI is not now
interested in my activities"), which was written less than a week
after the FBI came knocking on Ruth Paine's door (twice in 5 days!)
looking for LHO. That was a real "intelligent" lie, huh Mr. Walt-Kook?
And there are so many other "intelligent" lies that this supposedly
"trained" agent named Oswald told too -- like telling the police he
had never owned a rifle and never ordered one from Klein's (as if he
didn't know those lies would quickly be discovered to be just that--
lies).
And Lee's lies told to Wesley Frazier about "no lunch" and "I never
told Frazier anything about curtain rods". Were those "intelligent"
lies too? Or were they merely the desperate words of a murderer who
was caught holding the bag and who was trying ANY way he could to
wiggle out of a tough spot--even via obvious lies and easy-to-verify
lies like the ones Oswald told all weekend long in November 1963?
>>> "A successful agent can't be a stupid liar (like many LNer's). He must know when to lie and then lie intelligently." <<<
But evidently he wasn't "successful" enough, because he didn't fool
Walter "Brennan DESCRIBED The West-End Window" Cakebread. You've got
the real story on "American Intelligence Agent" Lee H. Oswald. Right,
Walt?
~yak break~
>>> "Ok, I'm ready for the next blank: _______________." <<<
Okay, I'm game:
Walt is a ___________.
(The only possible correct answer -- "Kook". Of course.)
Walt
> >>> "OSWALD WAS A LIAR AND he was trained by American intelligence. .... To be an intelligence agent the person must be an accomplished and intelligent liar." <<<
>
> That must be why "intelligent liar" Oswald wrote an obvious lie on
> Mrs. Paine's typewriter on November 9, 1963 (re: "The FBI is not now
> interested in my activities"), which was written less than a week
> after the FBI came knocking on Ruth Paine's door (twice in 5 days!)
> looking for LHO.
Ya really need to get yer head outta yer ass.....
Oswald knew that he could send a message to the FBI by couching it in
a letter to the Russian Embassy. If he didn't think the message would
reach Washington through his handler he could send the message hidden
in a letter to the Russian Embassy because the FBI was intercepting
all mail addressed to the Russian Embassy.
Gil Jesus
>
> > Walt is a ___________.
>
> > (The only possible correct answer -- "Kook". Of course.)-
GROW UP VON PEIN. YOU ACT LIKE A 10 YEAR OLD. THAT'S WHY NO ONE TAKES
YOU SERIOUSLY.
Walt
> >>> "OSWALD WAS A LIAR AND he was trained by American intelligence. .... To be an intelligence agent the person must be an accomplished and intelligent liar." <<<
>
> That must be why "intelligent liar" Oswald wrote an obvious lie on
> Mrs. Paine's typewriter on November 9, 1963 (re: "The FBI is not now
> interested in my activities"), which was written less than a week
> after the FBI came knocking on Ruth Paine's door (twice in 5 days!)
> looking for LHO. That was a real "intelligent" lie, huh Mr. Walt-Kook?
>
> And there are so many other "intelligent" lies that this supposedly
> "trained" agent named Oswald told too -- like telling the police he
> had never owned a rifle and never ordered one from Klein's (as if he
> didn't know those lies would quickly be discovered to be just that--
> lies).
It has yet to be proven that Oswald actually owned the rifle he was
photographed holding in CE 133A. Which BTW was NOT NOT the rifle that
was found in the TSBD.
>
> And Lee's lies told to Wesley Frazier about "no lunch" and "I never
> told Frazier anything about curtain rods".
This is an excellent example of He said He said.... Which one was
telling the truth???
Were those "intelligent"
> lies too? Or were they merely the desperate words of a murderer who
> was caught holding the bag
Oh you must be referring to the bag that was too small to contain a
rifle that Frazier said he saw Oswald carrying.
and who was trying ANY way he could to
> wiggle out of a tough spot--even via obvious lies and easy-to-verify
> lies like the ones Oswald told all weekend long in November 1963?
>
> >>> "A successful agent can't be a stupid liar (like many LNer's). He must know when to lie and then lie intelligently." <<<
>
> But evidently he wasn't "successful" enough, because he didn't fool
> Walter "Brennan DESCRIBED The West-End Window" Cakebread. You've got
> the real story on "American Intelligence Agent" Lee H. Oswald. Right,
> Walt?
HUH??? You seem to be a bit confused.... Have you been smokin that
stuff again? It was Howard Brennan who saw a man who was NOT Lee
Oswald aiming a hunting rifle out of the wide open window on the west
end of the sixth floor during the shooting.
David Von Pein
>>> "This is an excellent example of "He said, He said"....Which one was telling the truth??" <<<
And Walt, naturally, will choose to believe the man who was accused of
double-murder...versus believing a person (Wes Frazier) who was NOT
being charged with 2 murders.
Which one is most likely the liar -- LHO or Wesley?
To Walt, the answer, incredibly, is Wesley.
No wonder Walt perpetually spins his JFK wheels. He can't even get the
easy ones right.
David Von Pein
And therefore Oswald decides to leave the open letter (or at least a
copy of it) on Mrs. Paine's desk for two days (a letter which
contained some strong language and a wealth of lies)?
Why did Oswald do that? Did he WANT Ruth to see the letter? Sure looks
like he did, doesn't it? One can only wonder, though -- why he would
want Ruth to see such a letter?
I don't know for sure why he left the letter there, and it's always
been a mystery to Ruth too,* but it sure made Ruth Paine think twice
about this "queer" (Paine's word) person named Lee Oswald.
* = At the 1986 TV Docu-Trial in London, Mrs. Paine said (when talking
about the letter in question): "I don't know why he left it there. It
seemed just as strange as his leaving the light on in the garage."
It almost appears as if Lee was TRYING to look like an oddball to
Ruth.
Was he trying to make Ruth sever all associations with him and Marina?
If so, I'd again have to ask the question, "Why?"
Lee had a pretty good set-up there with Ruth Paine -- i.e., his wife
got to stay at the Paine home for free; Lee got to come out and feed
his face (for free) every weekend; and the babies got taken care of
(for free, too, it would seem).
As Ruth Paine testified to the WC, Lee Oswald never ONCE offered her
any money to help contribute to the caring and feeding of Marina and
the babies (June and Rachel). Never once.
So I just wonder why LHO left that letter (filled with lies and "FBI"
references) open on Ruth's desk for two days? Very strange indeed.
I don't have the answer. I was merely speculating. And even that
speculation, as I mentioned, doesn't seem to totally add up --
although Lee did seem anxious to have Marina move back in with him
again as of 11/21/63, which was just 12 days after he wrote the letter
that he left on Ruth's desk. So, perhaps, Lee was attempting to
manipulate Ruth, in a sense, with his November 9th letter of lies. And
LHO was pretty good at "manipulating" people too.
Walt
Hey Von Pea Brain..... Yer not equipped for "speculating"... Because
you have a preconceived mindset that Oswald was guilty and he lied at
every opportunity. You're an arrogant snob who thinks he's smarter
than the lowly peasants who use there God given commonsense.
Fortunately people like you are outnumbered about ten thousand to one.
David Von Pein
Remember my weak bladder before you type something that silly, you
pretentious kook. Please! Always remember the bladder!
David Von Pein
>>> "Hey Von Pea Brain..... Yer not equipped for "speculating"... Because you have a preconceived mindset that Oswald was guilty and he lied at every opportunity. You're an arrogant snob who thinks he's smarter than the lowly peasants who use there God given commonsense. Fortunately people like you are outnumbered about ten thousand to one." <<<
In my latest post, I'm actually admitting that I'm merely speculating
about something regarding LHO's behavior (behavior that could even be
considered "suspicious" in some way)....and here's the response I get
from Mr. CT-Kook:
"You're an arrogant snob who thinks he's smarter than the lowly
peasants who use there God given commonsense."
Somebody go figure out these kooks. I can't.
Walt
Talkin to yourself?? That's not a good sign, Pea Brain.....
YoHarvey
OSWALD WAS A LIAR AND he was trained by American intelligence. The
very core of being of an intelligence agent is his ability to know
when to lie, and how to lie intelligently. To be an intelligence
agent
the person must be an accomplished and intelligent liar. A
successful agent can't be a stupid liar ( like many LNer's) He must
know when to lie and then lie intelligently.
Ok, I'm ready for the next blank.
Walt? Fill in the blank between your ears!