G'D, who is Margorie Gilbert?
Brian Barlev
dear ole grey Granies telling white lies?
Is this one of your insider jokes Rob?
Let's see, using "marjorie gilbert computer secuirty" as goggle
keywords, this spits out on top of the hit list -
http://www.gcn.com/21_1/news/17715-1.html
We!! BINGO, there's a Marjorie Gilbert to be found quoted within -
Director of the Prezie's Critical Infrastructure Protection Board.
What a co-incidence!
Your rants are getting sniper sharper by the day. Is she a liar too
Rob? Like iirc ya haven't ranted about any Marjorie before?
Noho ora mai,
Brian
Brian Barlev
>keywords, this spits out on top of the hit list -
Whoops, looks like security got misspelt above as if it was a 'irty
word... ;o(
Noho ora mai,
Brian
Rob Rosenberger
>>Let's see, using "marjorie gilbert computer secuirty" as goggle
>>keywords, this spits out on top of the hit list -
>>Your rants are getting sniper sharper by the day. Is she a liar
>>too Rob? Like iirc ya haven't ranted about any Marjorie
>>before?
Oh, I don't consider her a liar. I know of her; she's never appeared on my
radar scope. Not everyone who works for Richard Clarke is bad.
Looking back at my column, I can see how you'd get the impression. I used
her name for the lying grandmother, didn't I? OUCH. If I ever dig up her
email address or phone, I'll definitely give her a personal apology. I'll
also file a Vea Culpa apology.
I merely wanted to give the grandmother a "grandmotherly" name. If you
followed George Carlin in the '70s, then you know he used "Marge" in some of
his jokes. Marge => Marjorie. Her surname fit right in for the deceased
husband and, boy, I just couldn't help myself. I should've used her name
for the clueless grandmother. (But I don't mean to say Gilbert is clueless.
Ouch. Open mouth, reinsert foot...)
Congrats to you for noticing such an obscure inside joke! You deserve a
cameo on "CSI" for your sleuthing. :-)
Rob
PS -- a public memo to Marjorie Gilbert. My sincerest apologies, ma'am. I
meant absolutely NO offense by it.
PPS -- another public memo to Marjorie Gilbert. Remember when your boss got
sideswiped by The China Syndrome? He's being left out the loop again. I
buried an esoteric clue in my column. Sleuth away.
Brian Barlev
>Congrats to you for noticing such an obscure inside joke! You deserve a
>cameo on "CSI" for your sleuthing. :-)
T'was not so much sleuthin', more like excessive curiosity and being
rather tickled by 'em "cute" Grandmas' concoursin'... ;o)
Noho ora mai,
Brian
Laura Fredericks
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Brian,
A public newsgroup is NOT the place to tell a journalist about what
you perceive to be questionable or incorrect in his column. That's
what e-mail is for. And vmyths has an e-mail address *just* for this
purpose. And they publish corrections. (And here I thought you
admired and respected Rob. Guess I was wrong.)
You want to be a writer, Brian? Well, what you did was unethical and
unprofessional. You can bet any bit of respect Rob might have had
for you, *Mister Gadfly*, has now fallen by the wayside -- or perhaps
I should say fallen off the mountains you so dearly love to climb.
This is why no one trusts you, Brian. This is why no one respects
you. And *this* is why I never reply to your e-mails.
You have proven time and again what you do you do ONLY for yourself.
So Rob thanked you publicly -- whoop-ty doo. You think this made you
a hero? Well, you're *not* the hero, Brian. You're the goat. And a
goat belongs on the mountain. Far away from humans.
If you have any shred of decency, you'll offer Rob an apology. (And
do it *privately* -- NOT HERE.)
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Brian Barlev
>Brian,
Ho!y mo!y, whatever happened to the dickHead moniker that you like so
much to trumpet?
>A public newsgroup is NOT the place to tell a journalist about what
>you perceive to be questionable or incorrect in his column.
Why not?
>That's what e-mail is for.
Not when it's not replied to.
>And vmyths has an e-mail address *just* for this purpose.
I'm very well aware of that "sweetie"!!!
>And they publish corrections. (And here I thought you
>admired and respected Rob. Guess I was wrong.)
Hey, keep ya knickers on girl. It doesn't follow that I don't.
>You want to be a writer, Brian?
Do I? Whoops I was attending the wrong course of study at the
Polytechnic then... ;o(
>Well, what you did was unethical and unprofessional.
So says you, boo hoo - geez I'm a poet too!.
>You can bet any bit of respect Rob might have had
>for you, *Mister Gadfly*, has now fallen by the wayside --
Wager a bet then?
>or perhaps I should say fallen off the mountains you so dearly love to climb.
The best way ever to get HIGH... :o)
>This is why no one trusts you, Brian.
Shit, twice in one post you use my real name. Are you i!! dear?
>This is why no one respects you.
okay, if you say so... :o(
>And *this* is why I never reply to your e-mails.
Sure, just tell that to EagleMan, miner and many others. Perhaps it's
rea!!y just you who can't cope. Wot are ya, a weak NYC wimp?
>You have proven time and again what you do you do ONLY for yourself.
Like for example(s)???
>So Rob thanked you publicly -- whoop-ty doo.
Perhaps he likes his readership to dig below the surface of what he
writes, that they might discover concealed treasures and double
meanings. And perhaps that's why he's SO good at his craft!
>You think this made you a hero?
While I'm genuinely thankfully for it , did I not nonetheless try to
migitate his "praise" somewhat? T'was no big deal?
>Well, you're *not* the hero, Brian.
Heavens, the third time. Yes, you're surely very ILL... :o(
>You're the goat. And a goat belongs on the mountain. Far away from humans.
Nah, ya don't say..
>If you have any shred of decency, you'll offer Rob an apology.
Sorry G'D if I've caused you any offence?
>(And do it *privately* -- NOT HERE.)
Nah, you can't fence me in!!!
Noho ora mai,
Brian
Laura Fredericks
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On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 07:24:13 -0700, Brian Barlev
<E3...@paradise.net.nz> wrote in post:
>Miss Laura Fredericks whined:
>>A public newsgroup is NOT the place to tell a journalist about what
>>you perceive to be questionable or incorrect in his column.
>
>Why not?
>
>>That's what e-mail is for.
>
>Not when it's not replied to.
You know nothing about journalism. When you submit a correction to an
editor -- any editor, anywhere -- they don't acknowledge it with a
li'l "thank you" note. If it's justified, they just print a
retraction.
I won't debate this with you. I've worked as a professional in
publishing and PR. You're a toilet cleaner.
Now fuck off, Brian. Just fuck off.
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"Brian Barlev" <E3...@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
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>
> >And *this* is why I never reply to your e-mails.
>
> Sure, just tell that to EagleMan, miner and many others. Perhaps it's
> rea!!y just you who can't cope. Wot are ya, a weak NYC wimp?
>
tell me what, brian?
miner.-
Sugien
"Laura Fredericks" <anon...@CLOTHEShotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 07:24:13 -0700, Brian Barlev
> <E3...@paradise.net.nz> wrote in post:
> >Miss Laura Fredericks whined:
> >>A public newsgroup is NOT the place to tell a journalist about what
> >>you perceive to be questionable or incorrect in his column.
> >
> >Why not?
> >
> >>That's what e-mail is for.
> >
> >Not when it's not replied to.
>
> You know nothing about journalism. When you submit a correction to an
> editor -- any editor, anywhere -- they don't acknowledge it with a
> li'l "thank you" note. If it's justified, they just print a
> retraction.
ok, you say this is so, well I have no reason to doubt it other then your
track record on other things<s> I would however like to ask this. Why is
it then when I was told of my mistake of leaving off the quotes from one of
my articles and I promptly corrected it, the paper promptly printed a
retraction, I promptly contacted the original author and apologized (which
btw, he said no harm no foul and also said that seeing as how I was only
quoting something from a UseNet debate I wasn't even required to quote him
any way and could have afahwc just use it without quoting him) the you,
*especially* you seeing as how you claim to be a professional in the field.
Raised such a belie hou when I did everything that was suppose to be done
and did so in a timely fashion? and why you (and a few others) still bring
it up and harp on it? How would you like it if some of your mistakes from
very early on in your career was continually brought up? After all that was
my *first* column I had ever written.
But then again I have my suspicions why you and a few others do it, but I
don't have to tell anyone here; because they all know why you do it and
before you get on your high horse *s* no it has nothing to do with me; but
rather to do with you lack of something which is worth more then money and
can't be bought.
>
> I won't debate this with you. I've worked as a professional in
> publishing and PR. You're a toilet cleaner.
>
> Now fuck off, Brian. Just fuck off.
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"Laura Fredericks" <anon...@CLOTHEShotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Now fuck off, Brian. Just fuck off.
>
wheres that anon netcop who hates swearing....lol
laura did you in your misspent youth, ever play the williams coin op arcade
game defender?
remember those green end of level ships that were sent to punish you if you
took your time..now what were they called...................?
seriously just dont post back to him if he does your box in so much. i know
its hard but do it and then their can be no argument.
miner.-
Nick FitzGerald
> ok, you say this is so, well I have no reason to doubt it other then your
> track record on other things<s> I would however like to ask this. Why is
> it then when I was told of my mistake of leaving off the quotes from one of
> my articles and I promptly corrected it, the paper promptly printed a
> retraction, I promptly contacted the original author and apologized (which
> btw, he said no harm no foul and also said that seeing as how I was only
> quoting something from a UseNet debate I wasn't even required to quote him
> any way and could have afahwc just use it without quoting him) the you,
> *especially* you seeing as how you claim to be a professional in the field.
> Raised such a belie hou when I did everything that was suppose to be done
> and did so in a timely fashion? and why you (and a few others) still bring
> it up and harp on it?
We all know that you are congenitally unable to comprehend the reason
Sooooog, as no matter how many times it is pointed out to you, and no
matter how carefully it is explained using very short, simple words,
you have shown over and over that you cannot or will not comprehend.
But just in case this is the proverbial "first time"...
It is an issue of scale. Just as speeding five miles per hour over the
posted limit and running a red light and side swiping another vehicle
are all traffic violations, what Laura is talking about Rob doing and
your plagiarism are (arguably) "journalism violations".
Sticking with the analogy, it should be clear for the traffic violation
cases that they are arranged in order of "magnitude" or "seriousness".
Now, what Rob did is pretty minor -- perhaps the journalistic equivalent
of speeding 5 mph over the limit -- whereas what you did is the
journalistic equivalent of deliberately running down a line of
pedestrians waiting at a bus stop then backing up over the bodies and
having another go just to make sure you got them all.
Plagiarism, as what you did is correctly know, is an enormously taboo
act among real journalists. Saying "I forgot to include the quotes"
(and any other indication that it was actually said by soemone else!)
is just a typical Sooooog worm-wriggling weasel-like attempt to get of
a whole bunch of trouble you were too stupid to even realize you could
get in before you did it. Aside from being a clear lie, the old legal
adage "ignorance is no defense" applies in spades here.
> ... How would you like it if some of your mistakes from
> very early on in your career was continually brought up? After all that was
> my *first* column I had ever written.
Yes, but you had a reputation as an accomplished liar and code-ripper
well before that, so I'd suggest that it was almost to be expected of
you, at least by those that knew your true nature. Unfortunately for
your editor, s/he was not one of those people...
> But then again I have my suspicions why you and a few others do it, but I
> don't have to tell anyone here; ...
...though that doesn't seem to _stop_ you from telling us over and
over again!
--
Nick FitzGerald
Sugien
"Nick FitzGerald" <ni...@virus-l.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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Your are a silly nonsesencial twit that spits out self serving twaddle ad
infanitam
>
> It is an issue of scale. Just as speeding five miles per hour over the
> posted limit and running a red light and side swiping another vehicle
> are all traffic violations, what Laura is talking about Rob doing and
> your plagiarism are (arguably) "journalism violations".
>
> Sticking with the analogy, it should be clear for the traffic violation
> cases that they are arranged in order of "magnitude" or "seriousness".
> Now, what Rob did is pretty minor -- perhaps the journalistic equivalent
> of speeding 5 mph over the limit -- whereas what you did is the
> journalistic equivalent of deliberately running down a line of
> pedestrians waiting at a bus stop then backing up over the bodies and
> having another go just to make sure you got them all.
pure self-serving blatherskite framed to soft sell the populace at another
GOBAD while trying to run down a honest man.
>
> Plagiarism, as what you did is correctly know, is an enormously taboo
> act among real journalists. Saying "I forgot to include the quotes"
> (and any other indication that it was actually said by soemone else!)
> is just a typical Sooooog worm-wriggling weasel-like attempt to get of
> a whole bunch of trouble you were too stupid to even realize you could
> get in before you did it. Aside from being a clear lie, the old legal
> adage "ignorance is no defense" applies in spades here.
>
More self serving twaddle lies
> > ... How would you like it if some of your mistakes from
> > very early on in your career was continually brought up? After all that
was
> > my *first* column I had ever written.
>
> Yes, but you had a reputation as an accomplished liar and code-ripper
> well before that, so I'd suggest that it was almost to be expected of
> you, at least by those that knew your true nature. Unfortunately for
> your editor, s/he was not one of those people...
>
The only bad reputation you *think* I have is from *your lies* and
others trying to run me down for some reason, oh yes the reason is you think
you are so far above the average person that if they would even think they
could do go above their station in life your entire world and personal
feeling of self worth would be called into question.
Your are now and always have been imo a blithering snob and someone I
would not cross the street to piss on to put you out if you were on fire,
well if you were in danger of setting something else on fire I would follow
you with a fire extinguisher to make sure you only hurt yourself.
> > But then again I have my suspicions why you and a few others do it, but
I
> > don't have to tell anyone here; ...
>
> ...though that doesn't seem to _stop_ you from telling us over and
> over again!
>
because a$$ holes like you keep repeating lies and you have never proved
them, just be glad I don't have a bunch of money; because lawyers are
expensive as are other remedies. You also know that every time you trot out
the lying horse I will shoot it to put it out of its misery.
>
> --
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>
>
You just don't get it do you? You can't hurt an honest man with lies and
that is one thing you and all those like you will never understand.
E3m3M
> tell me what, brian?
LoL, that we hadn't had some interesting chin-wags recently and also
several months ago via email... :o)
Btw, instead of holding anymore, I'm presently contemplating making
what could turn out to be a rather intigruing announcement both here
and at smirkingchimp!
However prior to doing so, I wish to consult with a small selected
group of e-friends, seeking their advice as input. If you wish to be
included in the mailout receive list, as a courtesy to the others,
I'll need to know your full name irl. Are you in miner for starters...
:o?
Noho ora mai,
Brian
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"E3m3M" <E3...@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
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> "miner.-" queried:
>
> > tell me what, brian?
>
> LoL, that we hadn't had some interesting chin-wags recently and also
> several months ago via email... :o)
yes, but it made no sense in your post, still doesn't now tbh.
> Btw, instead of holding anymore, I'm presently contemplating making
> what could turn out to be a rather intigruing announcement both here
> and at smirkingchimp!
>
> However prior to doing so, I wish to consult with a small selected
> group of e-friends, seeking their advice as input. If you wish to be
> included in the mailout receive list, as a courtesy to the others,
> I'll need to know your full name irl. Are you in miner for starters...
> :o?
mr outdoor miner
miner.-
E3m3M
> You know nothing about journalism.
Correct... :o(
> When you submit a correction to an editor -- any editor, anywhere -- they
> don't acknowledge it with a li'l "thank you" note.
G'D moves in mysterious ways???
> If it's justified, they just print a retraction.
Sure, that's the normal avenue.
> I won't debate this with you. I've worked as a professional in
> publishing and PR. You're a toilet cleaner.
WAS!!!
> Now fuck off, Brian. Just fuck off.
Why're ya so ill at ease here, dear? Like are you suffering from a
love sickness of sorts... ,o?
Noho ora mai,
Brian
Laura Fredericks
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On 23 Oct 2002 13:08:29 -0700, E3...@paradise.net.nz (E3m3M) wrote in
post to <snicker> Mr. Outdoor Miner:
>However prior to doing so, I wish to consult with a small selected
>group of e-friends, seeking their advice as input. If you wish to be
>included in the mailout receive list, as a courtesy to the others,
>I'll need to know your full name irl.
What you said to your friend "Vic", no doubt.
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"Laura Fredericks" <anon...@CLOTHEShotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 23 Oct 2002 13:08:29 -0700, E3...@paradise.net.nz (E3m3M) wrote in
> post to <snicker> Mr. Outdoor Miner:
> >However prior to doing so, I wish to consult with a small selected
> >group of e-friends, seeking their advice as input. If you wish to be
> >included in the mailout receive list, as a courtesy to the others,
> >I'll need to know your full name irl.
>
> What you said to your friend "Vic", no doubt.
>
"The night is young, the mood is mellow
And there's music in my ears
Say, is Vic there?"
sorry couldn't resist that one;-)
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/lucifersam/Lyrics.html#IsVicThere?
miner.-
Laura Fredericks
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On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 18:50:44 GMT, "Sugien" <dino...@adelphia.net>
coined (yet another) new word in post:
>infanitam
Hey, andi -- whatcha think? ;-)
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On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 18:50:44 GMT, "Sugien" <dino...@adelphia.net>
wrote in post:
>...You can't hurt an honest man with lies...
We're not hurting an honest man with lies -- we're hurting him with
THE TRUTH!
*hahhaha* *ROFL* *LMFAO* *hehHeHe*
(c) 4Q
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"Laura Fredericks" <anon...@CLOTHEShotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 18:50:44 GMT, "Sugien" <dino...@adelphia.net>
> coined (yet another) new word in post:
> >infanitam
>
> Hey, andi -- whatcha think? ;-)
yep I knew you could not resist and would not quote where I said I was
leaving the spelling mistakes in, hmmm or what that another post, oh well I
don't care anyway. You see I just love poking fun at you and I know for a
fact all I need to do is leave in spelling mistakes by not using my spelling
checker and you cant resist.
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"Laura Fredericks" <anon...@CLOTHEShotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 18:50:44 GMT, "Sugien" <dino...@adelphia.net>
> wrote in post:
> >...You can't hurt an honest man with lies...
>
> We're not hurting an honest man with lies -- we're hurting him with
> THE TRUTH!
>
You delude yourself far to much by giving yourself far too much
credit. You couldn't hurt me on a bet with anything as pitiful as anything
your tiny mind could conceive. Even 4Q at his most vile never hurt me, the
most he ever did was to get me to pray for him; but I pray for all fools
such as yourself and others.
You can lie to yourself, as you try and lie to the group; but you are
only lying to yourself even more if you think you hurt me with anything.
> *hahhaha* *ROFL* *LMFAO* *hehHeHe*
> (c) 4Q
hmmm, so now you are trying to say that line is copyrighted by 4Q? sure
sure, he may have used it; but I hope not in your (or his) wildest
imagination you actually think he has a copyright on that line; but then
again you are probably stupid enough to believe he does.
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On Thu, 24 Oct 2002 03:20:31 GMT, "Sugien" <dino...@adelphia.net>
wrote in post:
>You see I just love poking fun at you and I know for a fact all I
>need to do is leave in spelling mistakes by not using my spelling
>checker and you cant resist.
Uh, Sooooooooooooooge... ALL YOUR POSTS HAVE MISSPELLED WORDS!
(Wanker.)
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"Laura Fredericks" <anon...@CLOTHEShotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 24 Oct 2002 03:20:31 GMT, "Sugien" <dino...@adelphia.net>
> wrote in post:
> >You see I just love poking fun at you and I know for a fact all I
> >need to do is leave in spelling mistakes by not using my spelling
> >checker and you cant resist.
>
> Uh, Sooooooooooooooge... ALL YOUR POSTS HAVE MISSPELLED WORDS!
>
I almost always use a spelling checker and if it doesn't catch them then too
bad.
> (Wanker.)
Ahhhh, so you finally are willing to tell everyone your middle name, or is
that your maiden name or in your case Old Maid name.
>
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On Thu, 24 Oct 2002 03:25:21 GMT, "Sugien" <dino...@adelphia.net>
wrote in post:
>...I pray for all fools such as yourself and others.
I told you before, DO NOT pray for me. I *do not* want to be saved.
I'm happy down here. :-)
>hmmm, so now you are trying to say that line is copyrighted by 4Q?
How long have I been using 4Q's "copyrighted guffaw" in various
posts, here? At *least* a year?! Where have you been? Oh wait, I
know -- on Planet Source Code ste--
>...sure, he may have used it; but I hope not in your (or his)
>wildest imagination you actually think he has a copyright on that
>line
So what are you saying *now* -- that he stole it from YOU?
*hahhaha* *ROFL* *LMFAO* *hehHeHe*
(c) 4Q
http://www.weebl.jolt.co.uk/bobs%20week%20in%20france.htm
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Heather
"Sugien" <dino...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Laura Fredericks" <anon...@CLOTHEShotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > On Thu, 24 Oct 2002 03:20:31 GMT, "Sugien" <dino...@adelphia.net>
> > wrote in post:
> > >You see I just love poking fun at you and I know for a fact all I
> > >need to do is leave in spelling mistakes by not using my spelling
> > >checker and you cant resist.
> >
> > Uh, Sooooooooooooooge... ALL YOUR POSTS HAVE MISSPELLED WORDS!
> >
>
> I almost always use a spelling checker and if it doesn't catch them
then too
> bad.
If you are going to LIE.......then at least make is one that some fool
with an IQ of 50 would believe!!
YOU DON'T HAVE A SPELLCHECKER!!!! WANKER!!!
G*d.........you are such a dolt!!
Sugien
"Heather" <JaneyS...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ap7rfd$s39v2$1...@ID-99845.news.dfncis.de...
Tell yourself all the lies you like. I have OfficeXP Pro so now tell me I
don't have a spelling checker. In case you don't know (and twats like you
usually don't) if a person has OfficeXP installed on a Windows system and
uses OE, then enables the spelling check from within OE. Or are you even
stupider then I though and don't know Microsoft Word comes with XP and Word
is the spelling checker that is enabled from within OE. So there :oP
Heather
I do *know*, wanker........and the name is Heather, not twat. But you
are still a liar.......because there is no spellchecker on earth that
could miss the errors you continually make!!!
Case in point........ain't no such word as 'stupider'.....
> stupider >
>
The Walking Dictionary........who is a writer like Laura......in one of
my past lives......grin.
HF
E3m3M
> You know nothing about journalism. When you submit a correction to an
> editor -- any editor, anywhere -- they don't acknowledge it with a
> li'l "thank you" note. If it's justified, they just print a
> retraction.
Hey, while penny drops here's a thinking I've got it now?
Your "illness" is that you're actua!!y just trying to be hopelessly
helpful here... :o?
Noho ora mai,
Brian
FromTheRafters
"Laura Fredericks" <anon...@CLOTHEShotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 18:50:44 GMT, "Sugien" <dino...@adelphia.net>
> coined (yet another) new word in post:
> >infanitam
>
> Hey, andi -- whatcha think? ;-)
I got another one for ya ~ ad infantileism. ;o)
FromTheRafters
"Laura Fredericks" <anon...@CLOTHEShotmail.com> wrote in message
> http://www.weebl.jolt.co.uk/bobs%20week%20in%20france.htm
Pietanic ~ that's rich..
*hahhaha* *ROFL* *LMFAO* *hehHeHe*
(c) 4Q
used without the permission of the author--
Sugien
If you can call me a liar which I am not, then I can call you a twat which
you say you are not, pkb
Sugien
"FromTheRafters" <!00...@nomad.fake> wrote in message
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Sometimes you should just ask yourself, Hmmm Sugien has OfficeXP, which
allows Microsoft's Word's spelling checker to work via OE. If Sugien uses
it, then why do these mistakes make it through? Answer; because he is
letting certain ones through. The bigger question is why?
Andrew Lee
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> On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 18:50:44 GMT, "Sugien" <dino...@adelphia.net>
> coined (yet another) new word in post:
>>infanitam
>
> Hey, andi -- whatcha think? ;-)
hmm, has a certain quality. I misread the post at first, thinking that it
said infantiam, which, in context would have been far funnier.
Infantiam is the accusative (transitive verb) form of infantia, which means
lack of eloquence, or inability to speak :-)
-AJ
FromTheRafters
>
> "FromTheRafters" <!00...@nomad.fake> wrote in message
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> > "Laura Fredericks" <anon...@CLOTHEShotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:dtleru0gba4k86p5k...@4ax.com...
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> > > On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 18:50:44 GMT, "Sugien" <dino...@adelphia.net>
> > > coined (yet another) new word in post:
> > > >infanitam
> > >
> > > Hey, andi -- whatcha think? ;-)
> >
> > I got another one for ya ~ ad infantileism. ;o)
> >
> >
>
> Sometimes you should just ask yourself, Hmmm Sugien has OfficeXP, which
> allows Microsoft's Word's spelling checker to work via OE. If Sugien uses
> it, then why do these mistakes make it through? Answer; because he is
> letting certain ones through. The bigger question is why?
Spelling checkers only check spelling, it is the grammatical errors and
the use of the wrong words that will still make it through. For instance
Raid usually says 'quiet' when he means 'quite'; both are spelt correctly
but only one is used correctly in context. Nobody jumps on him about
it 'cause he isn't as much fun. ;o) You on the other hand, although it does
seem to aggravate you, have a sense of humor about it.
--
This post* is certified spelling error free by FTR wetware.
* Does not include quoted text, in which errors are left intact.
Laura Fredericks
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On Thu, 24 Oct 2002 15:46:56 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Lee
<gla...@gladius.f9.co.uk> wrote in post:
>...I misread the post at first, thinking that it said infantiam,
>which, in context would have been far funnier. Infantiam is the
>accusative
>(transitive verb) form of infantia, which means lack of eloquence,
>or inability to speak :-)
<choke> I'm eating lunch! Wish you would've warned me, first! ;-)
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"FromTheRafters" <!00...@nomad.fake> wrote in message
It doesn't aggravate me at all; but it does give me pleasure to make others
think so<BFG>
But that does clear up something I suspected. I had thought all along they
knew things were spelled correctly and I was wondering why they kept saying
they weren't, well except for the internal wrong spellings I let through
from time to time. Know I know they are just ignorant and don't know any
better or are just trying in vein to rile me. I dare say I have not be mad
in what is it now,hmm almost 20 years and the last time I got mad I almost
went to jail, so I have learned anger management and also as I get older it
takes more and more to even come close to making me mad, I guess because I
am taking less and less seriously and about the only think that would even
come close to getting me mad now days would be for someone in RL to say
something to or try and hurt my family; but then that is why I almost went
to jail almost 20 years ago<s>
Sugien
"Laura Fredericks" <anon...@CLOTHEShotmail.com> wrote in message
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> <gla...@gladius.f9.co.uk> wrote in post:
> >...I misread the post at first, thinking that it said infantiam,
> >which, in context would have been far funnier. Infantiam is the
> >accusative
> >(transitive verb) form of infantia, which means lack of eloquence,
> >or inability to speak :-)
>
are you so sure that isn't what I wanted to say? after all look whom I was
saying it about, lol
> <choke> I'm eating lunch! Wish you would've warned me, first! ;-)
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miner.-
>
> "Laura Fredericks" <anon...@CLOTHEShotmail.com> wrote in message
> > (Wanker.)
>
> Ahhhh, so you finally are willing to tell everyone your middle name, or is
> that your maiden name or in your case Old Maid name.
>
>
if you ever watch "married with children" peggy bundys maiden name is peggy
wanker.
sugien look it up in a us phone book, are there people with the surname
wanker?
miner.-
miner.-
>
> If you can call me a liar which I am not, then I can call you a twat which
> you say you are not, pkb
>
just for the record, females can not be wankers nor twats although they can
masterbate and do indeed have twats.
the wanker and twat insult only apply to males.
women can however talk bollocks and so can men who have the bollocks in the
first place.
miner.-
Heather
>
> Sometimes you should just ask yourself, Hmmm Sugien has OfficeXP,
which
> allows Microsoft's Word's spelling checker to work via OE. If Sugien
uses
> it, then why do these mistakes make it through? Answer; because he is
> letting certain ones through. The bigger question is why?
No, the bigger question is WHY do you continually lie about everything??
Do you really have a spellchecker (NO) and do you use it (NO)........so
stop wriggling, worm. For instance, you always spell matter as
'mater'......any spellchecker would pick that up.
You can't spell, ergo you can't look words up in the
dictionary.......but we did spell 'wanker' for you......check that one
out.
HF
Sugien
Well I was giving you time to figure it out for yourself; but seeing as how
you must just plane be too stupid to figure it out, I guess I will have to
explain to your tiny mind. The reason my spelling checker does not pick up
on mater as being matter misspelled is (now try and wrap that tiny brain
around this) because there is such a word as mater here you go
:Noun: mater
1. mama
Adjective: mat
1. free from gloss; not reflecting light
Not to be confused with:
Noun: matter
1. a vaguely specified concern
2. some situation or event that is thought about
3. that which has mass and occupies space
4. written material (especially in books or magazines)
5. a problem
Verb: matter
1. have weight; have import, carry weight
Adjective: matt
1. free from gloss; not reflecting light
Now just to further point it out to the undeniably very tiny 2 celled
brain of yours and for your future reference ** A spelling checker will only
correct words that are spelled wrong, ergo words for which it has no listing
in its data base; because a spelling checker can not tell if you really
meant another word or not it can rather only tell if you spelled a word
which doesn't show up in it's data base.
So if you really want to try and use your 2 celled organism laughingly
referred to as a brain to try and correct me at least do so properly and
tell my that I need to use my *grammar* checker, which by the way my word
that comes with my OfficeXP (pressing F7 from within a word document brings
it up) also has; but which is not usable from within OE. Well unless I
were to copy and paste my post into word check it for grammar and then copy
and paste it back which I am no inclined to do.
I care little if you believe me about my having OfficeXP and ergo a
spelling checker, and even less if you believe where I got it from. (A
Friend at Microsoft sent me a OfficeXP Professional Developers Edition
gratis; because of something I made them privy to instead of reporting the
bug/hole to the media or web pages and they are very grateful to anyone that
does that privately and saves them a public tongue lashing )
But please continue accusing me of not having a spelling checker;
because it just gives me more ammunition when I show my friends and family
what goof balls inhabit this news group; because I can show the archived
posts you have made and then my spelling checker and get a few extra laughs.
Well that is I shoe my spelling checker if it is one that doesn't already
know, and usually that is if it is a friend of a friend that comes over with
them and I am meeting them for the first time or something; because most all
my friends and family already know what nut cases you all are any way;
because this (and a few other) news groups has been the brunt of many a joke
and responsible for endless laughs and truly about the only reason I post
here is because I know I can count on this news group and those that post
here for a good laugh just about every day.
FromTheRafters
> my friends and family already know what nut cases you all are any way;
...and here I was operating under the misconception that I was
*not* a nutcase. Thanks for clearing that up Sugien.
:oP
Sugien
"FromTheRafters" <!00...@nomad.fake> wrote in message
at least in included my self; because last time I looked I was also a poster
to this news group
Andrew Lee
news:ap9c7g$si89h$1...@ID-51794.news.dfncis.de:
there's a guy called Thomas Wanker who works on Buffy the vampire slayer
which is nice.
-AJ
miner.-
"Andrew Lee" <gla...@gladius.f9.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Xns92B276848...@194.238.50.13...
lol
tommy wanker, you coudn't make it up
wonder if theres any americans called billy bollocks or something;-)
miner.-
wessel
I once met an American girl called Randy.
Seems to be quite a normal name, just so long they don't move to England. :-)
Grtz Wessel
Bart Bailey
>
>
> there's a guy called Thomas Wanker who works on Buffy the vampire slayer
>
> which is nice.
>
> -AJ
Nice?
that Buffy has some wanker working on her,
or nice because SMG is a babe? ;-)
nicky
There used to be an exec at Polygram (IIRC) in London called John
Uren..which seems innocuous until you say it out loud. Needless to say he
was known as Mr Piss in our office...
Nicky
Wessel
"Sugien" <dino...@adelphia.net> schreef in bericht
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the kind of person to know the meaning of the word mater, there is the pater
or mater familias, but somehow I don't think it is in your vocabulary.
There is the term alma mater, meaning where you got your education (
litterally the feeding mother), again I don't think that is in your regular
vocabulary.
So you may have seen mater and it did not get flagged by your
spellinchecker, it basically shows your limts of your vocabulary. There are
simple a lot of words in your language that you do not know.
However that is why there is a dictionary for students, a special webster
edition.. I have it, most college students buy it because at highschool
their vocabulary is too limited after they leave highschool.
Go for it, buy it and study it.
Become a student of your own language, your language (the USA) is colorfull
enough to make it worthwhile, read some typical American books, like Mark
Twain., Kurt Vonnegut, Phllip. K.Dick, Samual.R.Delaney etc.
Grtz Wessel
Sugien
"Wessel" <wzaa...@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
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No you are wrong and you would most probably by what you say be quite
surprise at my vocabulary:o) The problem is that know a lot of words
sometimes hinders someone that spells worse as the speed of their typing and
thoughts increase. Sometimes spelling one word when meaning the other. And
yes that word is in my vocabulary; but after I run the spelling checker I
just don't take the time to re-check it. To me it is a minor trivial point
and academia makes too much of spelling; but that is just my opinion and
everyone has one it is just that some are in danger of drowning from
sticking it up in the air.
E3m3M
> mr outdoor miner
That's not good enough!!! No closed loop for you, matey... ;o(
Noho ora mai,
Brian - aka the Mi!!ennium Viking
http://fourq.host.sk/Oddjob.jpg
Courtesy of 4Q, G'd bless him!!!
Bart Bailey
>
>
> No you are wrong and you would most probably by what you say be quite
> surprise at my vocabulary:o) The problem is that know a lot of words
> sometimes hinders someone that spells worse as the speed of their typing and
> thoughts increase. Sometimes spelling one word when meaning the other. And
> yes that word is in my vocabulary; but after I run the spelling checker I
> just don't take the time to re-check it. To me it is a minor trivial point
> and academia makes too much of spelling; but that is just my opinion and
> everyone has one it is just that some are in danger of drowning from
> sticking it up in the air.
Therein lies the conundrum <g>
Would you rather take that one extra editorial moment to insure accuracy, or
just "let it fly" and have to spend many anguished moments defending the
attacks, against your intelligence, and everything else those querulous nit
pickers can imagine?
I think you demonstrate your preference, to the dismay of your supporters.
nicky
"Bart Bailey" <bar...@nethere.net> wrote in message
news:3DB9BCCB...@amsat.org...
> Sugien wrote:
> > everyone has one it is just that some are in danger of drowning from
> > sticking it up in the air.
>
> Therein lies the conundrum <g>
>
> Would you rather take that one extra editorial moment to insure accuracy,
or
> just "let it fly" and have to spend many anguished moments defending the
> attacks, against your intelligence, and everything else those querulous
nit
> pickers can imagine?
>
> I think you demonstrate your preference, to the dismay of your supporters.
>
and to the glee of his detractors.
On the odd occasion that I can be bothered to wade through one of your posts
Paul, it appalls me. Your grasp of grammar let alone spelling is worse than
my five year old daughter. That isn't meant to be imflammatory its fact and
if you feel that no one "understands" what you are trying to say then that
may be why.
Another small but important point: do you actually know what a paragraph is?
It would really help in reading your posts.
Nicky
Sugien
Well while they are on my case they are leaving someone else alone. I truly
love it when it sticks in their crawl and feel compelled to corrections. It
reminds me of my school days and a certain teacher that had I not wanted to
irritate her some much my gpa would have been a little higher; but I just
could not bring myself to do as she asked; simply because I felt her red
pencil was used more when my papers flew into the face of the accepted norm.
I am however happy that time and shall I say the universe has long since
proven me right however and her wrong. I sure wish I could find here and
wave a few Scientific American articles under her nose and say "see, see I
was right, and you were and are wrong just like what I said". However just
my knowing that my views were proven right and hers have been relegated to
the old theories pile like what the sun revolving around the earth and the
flat earth theories have been.
Sugien
"nicky" <fecki...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Bart Bailey" <bar...@nethere.net> wrote in message
> news:3DB9BCCB...@amsat.org...
> > Sugien wrote:
> > > everyone has one it is just that some are in danger of drowning from
> > > sticking it up in the air.
> >
> > Therein lies the conundrum <g>
> >
> > Would you rather take that one extra editorial moment to insure
accuracy,
> or
> > just "let it fly" and have to spend many anguished moments defending the
> > attacks, against your intelligence, and everything else those querulous
> nit
> > pickers can imagine?
> >
> > I think you demonstrate your preference, to the dismay of your
supporters.
> >
>
> and to the glee of his detractors.
Someone has to bring a little glee into there otherwise drab and dreary poor
excuse for a life.
>
> On the odd occasion that I can be bothered to wade through one of your
posts
> Paul, it appalls me. Your grasp of grammar let alone spelling is worse
than
Why? are you a school teacher? or what?
> my five year old daughter. That isn't meant to be imflammatory its fact
and
> if you feel that no one "understands" what you are trying to say then that
> may be why.
Nope the reason a lot don't understand is because it goes completely over
their head
>
> Another small but important point: do you actually know what a paragraph
is?
> It would really help in reading your posts.
>
> Nicky
>
>
I will try and add more paragraph break; but there is one thing some
here just seam to be missing. Although several people rag on my spelling
and grammar and all that, why do you think it is that they still read it?
I think aside from my sometimes obvious attempt at humor, some of them
just can't wait to get home and see what Sugien is up to today. No I am not
full of myself, I am just stating honestly what I think some here do. They
go to their job they can't stand and work for a boss that they think if it
were not for the bad break they got in life that the boss would be working
for them. Then they see some joe blow get hired in and advance past them or
advance in half the time it took them.
Maybe they get stuck in traffic jam and their mind starts to wonder and
eventually it will wonder "Hmmm I wonder if Sugien has ticked of someone
today, or maybe made and ars of himself, hmm wonder if he will ever grow up"
But I don't mind it is ok with me. I just like to mess around the net and
have some fun. True sometimes it is at someone's expense that thinks there
$hit don't stink; but that is just the way it goes.
They continually say they can't stand the way I write or frame my
posts; but they keep reading them any way. Have you ever wondered why if
they can't stand my post as much as what they say, then why don't they
simply NOT read them?
Maybe I am just one of those people that you love to hate and hate to
love, and in spite of yourself you like me and you can't stand it because
you do, so you try and correct my post to make them easer for you to read.
One of the problems with the world is that there are those that think
everyone must conform to what their perception of reality should be. They
can't stand when someone stands outside the box and shouts back into the box
"hey get a life you are suffocating in that box"
Well I could go on, and on, and on and on:o) But as some say I also
post to lengthy of a post:
Frederic Bonroy
> I once met an American girl called Randy.
> Seems to be quite a normal name, just so long they don't move to England. :-)
I was very surprised to hear that some men are named "Sandy". I wonder
if that is common?
miner.-
"wessel" <wzaa...@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
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as long as he wasn't randy wanker ;-)
miner.-
miner.-
"E3m3M" <E3...@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
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> "miner.-" hedged:
>
> > mr outdoor miner
>
> That's not good enough!!! No closed loop for you, matey... ;o(
>
OK I'm sure i'll survive without it.
of leaf structures
miner.-
Heather
"Frederic Bonroy" <yor...@yahoo.fr> wrote in message
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Not at all uncommon......usually either a pet name for Alexander or the
person has reddish hair. Often of Scottish background.
The Genealogist Extraordinaire.......grin .
>
>
E3m3M
> Someone has to bring a little glee into there otherwise drab and dreary poor
> excuse for a life.
Ya musclin' in onto Glebe's glee patch then... ;o?
> I will try and add more paragraph break; but there is one thing some
> here just seam to be missing.
Choice!!! Now if you could just insert a blank line between each
paragraph to further improve the white space... ;o)
> Although several people rag on my spelling
> and grammar and all that, why do you think it is that they still read it?
Beats me, I'm just here to see how well ya picking up on my generous
hints and tips... :o)
> I think aside from my sometimes obvious attempt at humor, some of them
> just can't wait to get home and see what Sugien is up to today.
I used to think that about myself... ;o(
> No I am not full of myself,
But I was!!! Some here might suggest that nothings changed in that
regard, LoL.
> Maybe I am just one of those people that you love to hate and hate to
> love,
Hey Sugie, stop stealing my lines... ,o)
Noho ora mai,
Brian - aka Aotearoa's Mi!!ennium Viking
Bart Bailey
FromTheRafters
"Frederic Bonroy" <yor...@yahoo.fr> wrote in message
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Shirley and Marion were once common male names too.
This is why I try not to assume the gender of a poster from
the name alone. But it does get tiring typing 'he/she said' or
'his/her computer' all of the time.
FromTheRafters
"E3m3M" <em...@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
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> "Sugien" excused:
>
> > Someone has to bring a little glee into there otherwise drab and dreary poor
> > excuse for a life.
>
> Ya musclin' in onto Glebe's glee patch then... ;o?
>
> > I will try and add more paragraph break; but there is one thing some
> > here just seam to be missing.
>
> Choice!!! Now if you could just insert a blank line between each
> paragraph to further improve the white space... ;o)
Hey, go easy on him...let this soak in before overwhelming him with
more requests. [Sorry Sugien I couldn't help it]
> > Although several people rag on my spelling
> > and grammar and all that, why do you think it is that they still read it?
>
> Beats me, I'm just here to see how well ya picking up on my generous
> hints and tips... :o)
Wow! Hints and tips from a real writer. [Sorry Brien. (added for balance).
Now you each owe me one for three way symmetry]
> > I think aside from my sometimes obvious attempt at humor, some of them
> > just can't wait to get home and see what Sugien is up to today.
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I was toying with adding more paragraph break anyway; but very doubtful if I
add white space; because I can't see bandwidth going to waste like that and
a blank line between paragraphs uses just about as much bandwidth as a full
line of text and in fact enough of the breaks will increase bandwidth
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I thought it was just a LF control character. 1 Byte per use.
When you highlite it to copy it, it looks so small.
Thus:
Hmmmm.
Andrew Lee
news:3DB9BCCB...@amsat.org:
Since we're doing spelling/grammar flames ;)
> Therein lies the conundrum <g>
>
> Would you rather take that one extra editorial moment to insure
oops, _ensure_ in this case, rather than insure - a very common mistake.
> accuracy, or just "let it fly" and have to spend many anguished
> moments defending the attacks, against your intelligence, and
no comma after attacks here, it breaks the sense of the sentence
> everything else those querulous nit pickers can imagine?
Oh, we can imagine all kinds of things :)
> I think you demonstrate your preference, to the dismay of your
> supporters.
Sadly so.
regards
-AJ
Bart Bailey
> Bart Bailey <bar...@nethere.net> a écrit
> news:3DB9BCCB...@amsat.org:
>
> Since we're doing spelling/grammar flames ;)
>
> > Therein lies the conundrum <g>
> >
> > Would you rather take that one extra editorial moment to insure
>
> oops, _ensure_ in this case, rather than insure - a very common mistake.
See definition #2
http://tinyurl.com/2apm
My usage was intended to convey the meaning;
"to make certain of accuracy", and thus falls within that definition.
> > accuracy, or just "let it fly" and have to spend many anguished
> > moments defending the attacks, against your intelligence, and
>
> no comma after attacks here, it breaks the sense of the sentence
It inserts a qualifying phrase that defines the target of those attacks,
"against his intelligence" as opposed to "against his family"
therefore the comma stays, thanks.
> > everything else those querulous nit pickers can imagine?
>
> Oh, we can imagine all kinds of things :)
Like the above two examples? ;-)
>
> > I think you demonstrate your preference, to the dismay of your
> > supporters.
>
> Sadly so.
>
> regards
>
> -AJ
Seems his determined intransigence is evaporating a bit of that support.
b
E3m3M
> what could turn out to be a rather intigruing announcement both here
> and at smirkingchimp!
Time to bite the bullet s2s on hopefully my very last cryptic acv
thread?
> However prior to doing so, I wish to consult with a small selected
> group of e-friends, seeking their advice as input.
Over the last week instead of doing the above collectively, I've only
actually informed a few ACVers individually in any real detail plus a
couple of folks outside of this watering hole.
This cryptic initiative is to be entitled - Captain Clayton's Hauraki
Gulf Trust Fund... ;o)
Further details thereof will be progressively revealed over the next
few days. And btw for those not in the know wrt Down Under slang a
Clayton's is "the drink you have when you're not having a drink"...
;o)
Noho ora mai,
Brian
Andrew Lee
> Andrew Lee wrote:
>
>> Bart Bailey <bar...@nethere.net> a écrit
>> news:3DB9BCCB...@amsat.org:
>>
>> Since we're doing spelling/grammar flames ;)
>>
>> > Therein lies the conundrum <g>
>> >
>> > Would you rather take that one extra editorial moment to insure
>>
>> oops, _ensure_ in this case, rather than insure - a very common mistake
> .
>
> See definition #2
> http://tinyurl.com/2apm
> My usage was intended to convey the meaning;
> "to make certain of accuracy", and thus falls within that definition.
Hmm, well, it seems that according to that site that it does, however, that
may be a NA thing, certainly in English English that wouldn't be the word
used. Perhaps the words are used interchangeably in NA?
>> > accuracy, or just "let it fly" and have to spend many anguished
>> > moments defending the attacks, against your intelligence, and
>>
>> no comma after attacks here, it breaks the sense of the sentence
>
> It inserts a qualifying phrase that defines the target of those attacks,
> "against his intelligence" as opposed to "against his family"
> therefore the comma stays, thanks.
"defending the attacks against your intelligene, and ..."
Does imply the target, if you had written
"defending the attacks against your intelligence, as opposed to your
family, and... "
then the qualifying phrase would be within commas.
Commas are a readability aid, and IMNSHO the sentence was less readable
with the comma there, as it put an unnatural break in it.
But I'm not going to lose sleep if you disagree ;-)
>> > everything else those querulous nit pickers can imagine?
>>
>> Oh, we can imagine all kinds of things :)
>
> Like the above two examples? ;-)
My point exactly :)
>>
>> > I think you demonstrate your preference, to the dismay of your
>> > supporters.
>>
>> Sadly so.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> -AJ
>
> Seems his determined intransigence is evaporating a bit of that support.
It's often hard to defend the indefensible. The only way is to draw
attention to the good and the bad in equal proportion, that way, we do not
forget the ultimate humanity of the object. To seek to destroy is not, and
has not been, my intention.
Actually, I sometimes have no idea what the hell my intention is!!
regards
-AJ
Bart Bailey
>
> Hmm, well, it seems that according to that site that it does, however, that
> may be a NA thing, certainly in English English that wouldn't be the word
> used. Perhaps the words are used interchangeably in NA?
I'm not associated with the "risk management" area of business, so can't supply
any relevant examples of the words in question, however, it is quite common for
many words to be used differently, by different groups, in different
circumstances.
If you have access to the USA broadcast media, you'll be amazed at the level of
poor grammar, mispronounced words (I'm not talking about regional accents), and
general syntactical confusion.
This sentence will often exhibit those variances:
"I hope the harassment is short lived"
>
>
> >> > accuracy, or just "let it fly" and have to spend many anguished
> >> > moments defending the attacks, against your intelligence, and
> >>
> >> no comma after attacks here, it breaks the sense of the sentence
> >
> > It inserts a qualifying phrase that defines the target of those attacks,
> > "against his intelligence" as opposed to "against his family"
> > therefore the comma stays, thanks.
>
> "defending the attacks against your intelligene,
red pencil application here (sp)
> and ..."
>
> Does imply the target, if you had written
> "defending the attacks against your intelligence, as opposed to your
> family, and... "
I could have included a litany of opposing circumstances and exceptions, but
chose to only include the one qualifier.
It's like ordering a hamburger and specifying only what you want on it versus
listing the entirety of undesired condiments.
>
>
> then the qualifying phrase would be within commas.
>
> Commas are a readability aid, and IMNSHO the sentence was less readable
> with the comma there, as it put an unnatural break in it.
Wouldn't the brevity of my style be preferable to an interminable enumeration
of exceptions?
> But I'm not going to lose sleep if you disagree ;-)
I just woke up from a very restful sleep,
none of which was lost due to grammatical quibbles. ;-)
b