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Oct 8, 2014, 2:23:30 AM10/8/14
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on 6 minutes ago
about an hour ago Pink Shirt Platypus said:
about an hour ago Dr. T is an alien said:
Glad I am not the only one that liked the character. Had they never tried the whole "Ben's the real Peter all along" BS and still featured Peter in a reduced role as someone adjusting to civilian like in a city apparently crawling with supervillians then they probably could have permanently spun a few of the Spidey titles to be Ben's.
The Clone Saga being a complete f***ing mess of a story arc didn't help any.
No, it did not. They had a good thing going at first and it seemed that they tried to milk it for too damned long.
I my opinion it should have ran like this:
Months 1 - 2
Ben returns to NYC and starts being the Scarlett Spider (pretty much like they had him do it). Peter starts hearing rumors of another spiderpowered hero and probably at first has to wonder if Venom or Carnage had another offspring, prompting him to try to track down this Scarlett Spider. Their paths do not cross and there is no joining arc between them outside of the hostage crisis at the Twin Towers at the start of the Saga (wow, that kind of sucks to remember the setting of that part).
Months 3-4
Peter catches up with Ben, coming to blows at first. They separate and Ben has his struggles with Venom while Peter's issues focus more on May's failing health and Mary Jane's pregnancy (fighting only minor villains who are easily defeated).
Month 5
Kaine emerges in NYC and fights Ben. Kaine's murders in NYC brings the FBI to Peter's door, leading to Peter's arrest.
Months 6-7
Ben breaks Peter out of prison and takes his place. Peter, now convinced that Ben probably was innocent (and knowing that he certainly was), starts investigating Kaine. His search leads him to find The Jackal, who had not only faked his own death but had tried merging Peter's DNA into his own. It gives him powers but affected his mind, causing his subsequent attempts to clone Peter to be failures. Kaine and a yet-to-be-activated Spidercide (who is not introduced at this time) are the only successes of any kind. After a brief struggle, Jackal flees.
Month 8
"Peter's" trial begins. The real Peter, now aware that Kaine is another Peter Parker clone, tracks down Kaine and finds out that Jackal had convinced Kaine that Peter was really the clone and that Ben was the original. Kaine's desire to see a clone find success in the world is what prompted him to try to make Ben's life hell all along. When Peter cannot defeat Kaine he decides to show up at Ben's trial, claim to be Ben, and create reasonable doubt as to who could have committed the murders. To prevent Peter from doing that, Kaine exposes himself instead and confesses as was done before. Charges against "Peter" are dismissed. Fortunately, Aunt May gets to see Peter freed, but after one last day with Peter (the real one) she dies.
Month 9
Jackal returns and is confronted by Peter and Ben. In the end, it is confirmed that Peter is the original, that Jackal lied to Kaine in order to use Kaine as a tool to punish Ben for failing in the 1975 story arc, and that Jackal is quite insane now. Jackal is backed up by a now-activated Spidercide, leading to a 2 on 2 fight between the two sides. Jackal is seemingly killed, Spidercide is chased off, and the two spidermen find and destroy Jackal's lab, including all traces of DNA that he had been keeping on hand to prevent any more clones from ever showing up.
At the end of this, Peter decides that the best way to honor May's memory is to focus on family. He asks Ben to take over as Spiderman so that he could focus on his now very pregnant wife. Ben will for a few months dominate the Spiderman titles while Peter is relegated to a secondary role as he tries to adapt to being a civilian. In the end, he just can't resist and will occasionally suit up, making it seem like Spiderman is REALLY busy. Eventually he officially resumes the role of Spiderman while Ben goes back to being the Scarlett Spider. Their paths will cross from time to time, they will team up on big story arcs, they end up on opposite sides during the Civil War, and so on.
Post by Dr. T is an alien on 6 minutes ago
about an hour ago Pink Shirt Platypus said:
about an hour ago Dr. T is an alien said:
Glad I am not the only one that liked the character. Had they never tried the whole "Ben's the real Peter all along" BS and still featured Peter in a reduced role as someone adjusting to civilian like in a city apparently crawling with supervillians then they probably could have permanently spun a few of the Spidey titles to be Ben's.
The Clone Saga being a complete f***ing mess of a story arc didn't help any.
No, it did not. They had a good thing going at first and it seemed that they tried to milk it for too damned long.
I my opinion it should have ran like this:
Months 1 - 2
Ben returns to NYC and starts being the Scarlett Spider (pretty much like they had him do it). Peter starts hearing rumors of another spiderpowered hero and probably at first has to wonder if Venom or Carnage had another offspring, prompting him to try to track down this Scarlett Spider. Their paths do not cross and there is no joining arc between them outside of the hostage crisis at the Twin Towers at the start of the Saga (wow, that kind of sucks to remember the setting of that part).
Months 3-4
Peter catches up with Ben, coming to blows at first. They separate and Ben has his struggles with Venom while Peter's issues focus more on May's failing health and Mary Jane's pregnancy (fighting only minor villains who are easily defeated).
Month 5
Kaine emerges in NYC and fights Ben. Kaine's murders in NYC brings the FBI to Peter's door, leading to Peter's arrest.
Months 6-7
Ben breaks Peter out of prison and takes his place. Peter, now convinced that Ben probably was innocent (and knowing that he certainly was), starts investigating Kaine. His search leads him to find The Jackal, who had not only faked his own death but had tried merging Peter's DNA into his own. It gives him powers but affected his mind, causing his subsequent attempts to clone Peter to be failures. Kaine and a yet-to-be-activated Spidercide (who is not introduced at this time) are the only successes of any kind. After a brief struggle, Jackal flees.
Month 8
"Peter's" trial begins. The real Peter, now aware that Kaine is another Peter Parker clone, tracks down Kaine and finds out that Jackal had convinced Kaine that Peter was really the clone and that Ben was the original. Kaine's desire to see a clone find success in the world is what prompted him to try to make Ben's life hell all along. When Peter cannot defeat Kaine he decides to show up at Ben's trial, claim to be Ben, and create reasonable doubt as to who could have committed the murders. To prevent Peter from doing that, Kaine exposes himself instead and confesses as was done before. Charges against "Peter" are dismissed. Fortunately, Aunt May gets to see Peter freed, but after one last day with Peter (the real one) she dies.
Month 9
Jackal returns and is confronted by Peter and Ben. In the end, it is confirmed that Peter is the original, that Jackal lied to Kaine in order to use Kaine as a tool to punish Ben for failing in the 1975 story arc, and that Jackal is quite insane now. Jackal is backed up by a now-activated Spidercide, leading to a 2 on 2 fight between the two sides. Jackal is seemingly killed, Spidercide is chased off, and the two spidermen find and destroy Jackal's lab, including all traces of DNA that he had been keeping on hand to prevent any more clones from ever showing up.
At the end of this, Peter decides that the best way to honor May's memory is to focus on family. He asks Ben to take over as Spiderman so that he could focus on his now very pregnant wife. Ben will for a few months dominate the Spiderman titles while Peter is relegated to a secondary role as he tries to adapt to being a civilian. In the end, he just can't resist and will occasionally suit up, making it seem like Spiderman is REALLY busy. Eventually he officially resumes the role of Spiderman while Ben goes back to being the Scarlett Spider. Their paths will cross from time to time, they will team up on big story arcs, they end up on opposite sides during the Civil War, and so on.
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