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Joe Cooper
Sep 27, 2016, 12:10:56 PM9/27/16
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As we wind down to the final weeks before the election, a large
percentage of voters remain undecided on whether to vote for Donald Trump
or Hillary Clinton or someone else. Unlike previous elections, many
undecided voters are educated, savvy conservatives who have not committed
to Donald Trump, a Wall Street Journal analysis reported. Like me, many
of these voters are repelled by both candidates.
Donald Trump may not be perfect, the argument goes, he may say silly and
offensive things, but he’s still better than Hillary Clinton. It’s true
that the one thing that Donald Trump has going for him is that he isn’t
Hillary, but that doesn’t mean that he is necessarily better than
Hillary. As we learned from Barack Obama in 2008, “change” doesn’t always
mean “better.” Let’s look closer at Mr. Trump to find out whether he
truly is the lesser evil.
My problems with Trump can be boiled down to three areas: character,
policy and judgment. It isn’t just that Trump says silly and insulting
things. He seems to be a genuinely bad and untrustworthy person. On many
levels, his character flaws are astonishingly similar to those of Hillary
Clinton. His ideas are as flawed and half-formed as his character, often
seemingly thrown out on a whim, only to be retracted or disavowed later.
Likewise, Trump’s judgment is quick, brash and often wrong.
Uncharacteristically bad
The most obvious character flaw of both candidates is their propensity
for lying. Their relationships with the truth are so nebulous that they
both lie about small, stupid, easily disprovable things. They lie even
when they don’t have to. The Daily Wire compiled a list of 101 of Trump’s
lies, hardly all inclusive, and, after analyzing his speeches, found
that, on average, he lied every five minutes. In 2015, after half a year
in politics, Politifact gave Trump the “Lie of the Year” award, not for
one specific fib as it did for President Obama, but for lifetime
achievement. The sheer volume of Trump falsehoods floods the zone of
anyone trying to keep him honest.
Trump’s fundamental untrustworthiness is underscored by corruption that
also rivals that of the Clintons. The most famous instance of Trump’s
corruption is the Trump University case where Trump stands accused of
being a literal con man who bilked novice real estate investors out of
tens of thousands of dollars of their hard-earned money. That is not the
full extent of his corruption, however.
Trump has a long history of using eminent domain, the government seizure
of private property, to take homes from the poor to build or expand his
luxury properties. In one famous case, Trump tried to use eminent domain
to bulldoze the home of Vera Coking, an elderly widow, in order to build
a parking lot for his Trump Plaza hotel and casino in Atlantic City.
Trump lost that case in court.
The Trump Plaza was one of several Trump casinos that went bankrupt in
the early 1990s, leaving investors and creditors on the hook for most of
the losses. Trump’s casinos were funded with debt that left them
unprofitable when most casinos were thriving. Trump also left a trail of
unpaid bills from contractors and employees in his wake, according to an
investigation by USA Today. Among the people he allegedly stiffed were
bartenders, waiters and other hourly employees who sued Trump – and won –
for unpaid wages.
In 1973, Trump and his father were named as defendants in a suit by the
federal government for violations of the Fair Housing Act. The charge was
segregating the company’s rental buildings by refusing to rent to
minorities like Maxine Brown, a 33-year-old black nurse. A New York Times
investigation found a long list of racial complaints against Trump
Management on file at the New York Commission on Human Rights. The Trumps
settled and agreed to desegregate their buildings in 1973.
In spite of having illegal immigration as a signature issue, Trump also
has a long record of violating immigration law at his companies. In the
1980s, Trump used illegal Polish immigrants on construction projects.
Several former models have also accused Trump of exploiting them and
hiring them to work without U.S. work visas. The women say that Trump
Model Management taught them how to circumvent U.S. immigration and labor
laws. As recently as last year, many Hispanic workers on at least one
Trump construction project were reported to be illegal aliens.
Trump also has a corrupt foundation to compete with the corrupt Clinton
Foundation. In a serious scandal that is just emerging, the Donald J.
Trump Foundation made an illegal payment of $25,000 to Florida attorney
general Pam Bondi a few days before she decided not to pursue a case
against Trump University. Shortly after the decision, Trump held another
fundraiser for Bondi at his Mar-a-Lago mansion. The Trump Foundation also
gave $100,000 to a group that sued the New York attorney general who sued
Trump over Trump University.
Numerous reports indicate that Trump has invested little in his charity
foundation yet has profited handsomely from it. The Washington Post found
that Trump used the Trump Foundation’s charitable funds as his own
piggybank. Trump used charity funds to settle a legal dispute with the
city of Palm Beach, Florida. The agreement had stipulated that Trump’s
Mar-a-Lago Club would pay for the settlement. Trump also used charity
funds, which were almost entirely donated by others, to buy portraits of
himself and advertise his hotels.
If that were not enough, Trump is accused of having ties to the mafia
resulting from his use of mob-owned firms in construction projects and
his days as an Atlantic City casino operator. Trump also took $150,000
from a September 11 fund earmarked to help small businesses recover from
the attack. Trump said that the payment was for helping victims of the
attack, but the New York Daily News found that the funds were issued for
“rent loss,” “cleanup” and “repair.”
Trump and Hillary both share a lack of character that is disturbing to
see in a possible president. Further, the scale of corruption is not an
indication of who is more corrupt. As Jesus said, “Whoever can be trusted
with very little can also be trusted with much, and whoever is dishonest
with very little will also be dishonest with much” (Luke 16:10). One bit
of corruption makes a person completely corrupt.
Left of center
Even if Trump’s character is just as bad as Hillary’s, who has no
shortage of corruption and incompetence charges herself, it might still
be tempting to vote for Trump if he could be trusted, under close
supervision, to enact a broad agenda of conservative reform. What does
Trump stand for?
Several issues stand out where most reluctant Trump supporters say he is
preferable to Hillary Clinton. Unlike Hillary, they say, Trump won’t
threaten the Second Amendment or raise taxes. He’s better on religious
liberty and abortion, they argue. Is he?
On many issues Trump is incoherent and the Second Amendment is no
exception. CNN chronicles his “evolution” on gun control. Prior to
running for president, Trump supported assault weapons bans and waiting
periods. Even today, Trump takes the Democrat position that people on TSA
watch lists should be banned from buying guns. In contrast, Hillary
supports expanding background checks and reinstating the same assault
weapons ban that Trump supported before he ran for president.
On taxes, the Trump campaign has advanced a plan that would cut income
taxes, but at the same time he has left open the possibility of another
tax increase, saying last May,” “I am willing to pay more, and you know
what, the wealthy are willing to pay more.” Trump has refused to reveal
exactly how much he does pay in taxes. In August, he revised his tax plan
with higher rates than he had proposed in the primary. Clinton has
proposed a bevy of tax hikes that would fall primarily on wealthy
Americans and businesses.
Often not discussed as taxes are Trump’s tariffs, huge tax increases on
trade. Trump bragged that his views on trade were “very similar” to those
of Bernie Sanders. Trump’s massive tariffs on trade with Mexico, China
and Japan and the possible destruction of NAFTA, one of the most
successful trade agreements in history, would be devastating. Trump’s
trade policy would make items more expensive for American consumers and
businesses. One study found that Trump’s tariffs would cost Americans
more than $11,000 per year. This is much more than they would save from
income tax rate cuts. The Wall Street Journal, the most conservative
paper in the country, found that Trump’s trade policy would likely start
a trade war and fuel a recession that could cost 5 million jobs.
On religious liberty, Trump was the sole Republican of the final four not
to pledge to sign the First Amendment Defense Act (FADA) to protect gay
marriage dissidents from federal action. Trump was critical of Kentucky
county clerk, Kim Davis, for her faith-based refusal to issue same-sex
marriage licenses. When asked about protections for Christian businesses
in a meeting with evangelical leaders, Donald Wildman said, “Either he
doesn’t understand it or he doesn’t agree with us and he doesn’t want to
tell us that.” Trump’s main focus in the battle for religious liberty
seems to be allowing churches to endorse candidates without losing their
tax-exempt status.
On the subject of abortion, Trump is particularly incoherent. As late as
March, Trump was praising abortion provider Planned Parenthood and was
the sole Republican to resist cutting funding for the group. Trump may
have set a personal best for flip-flops when he took five different
positions on abortion in three days. Most recently, two months before
Election Day Trump reinvented himself as a staunch abortion opponent.
The flip-flops and liberal positions don’t stop there. Trump said that he
wants to repeal Obamacare. The hitch is that he has said he wants to
replace it with government-funded, universal healthcare.
On spending and the debt, Trump said just last month that “this is a time
to borrow.” Trump would use those borrowed funds on an infrastructure
stimulus spending package that is twice as big as the one that Hillary
proposes. Entitlements are the largest driver of deficit spending, yet
Trump refuses to consider entitlement reform.
For those who would like to see pro-business regulatory reform, Trump
does not look promising. He has advocated more banking regulation by
reviving the New Deal-era Glass-Steagall Act, which prohibited banks from
diversifying into insurance. He also unveiled a plan to require
businesses to offer paid maternity leave, a tax-and-spend plan to be paid
for through state unemployment taxes.
On the economy, Trump did a full flip-flop with a half twist when he
suddenly decided to back another progressive position and call for an
increase to the minimum wage. Trump advocates an increase in the federal
minimum wage to $10 per hour. In the past, he has advocated a minimum
wage as high as $15 per hour while also arguing that “wages are too
high.”
Trump dislikes other treaties in addition to NAFTA. He has threatened to
reconsider American defense alliances with both NATO countries and South
Korea. In spite of Trump’s criticism of Obama’s not-a-treaty with Iran,
he has no plans to scrap the nuclear deal. When it comes to fighting
ISIS, Trump’s call for attacks with aircraft and drones and the
establishment of a coalition are essentially the same strategy that
President Obama has employed.
What makes Trump especially dangerous…
Trump is a liar and a man of poor character. He also does not exhibit
core principles and tends to default to leftist positions. So does
Hillary. But wait, as they might say in a Trump University infomercial,
there’s more! Donald Trump displays several difficulties that are so
uniquely bad that they should disqualify him from the presidency, even if
the only other alternative is Hillary Clinton. Many of these problems
stem from Trump’s poor judgment.
When most people think of Trump’s lack of judgment, they think of things
like how he mocked a disabled reporter or set about with the character
assassination of the parents of a fallen American soldier. In reality,
his errors in judgment go far beyond such trivialities to attacks on
civil liberties and statements that would be matters of war and peace if
he were president.
In statements reminiscent of Barack Obama, Trump threatened Washington
Post and Amazon owner Jeff Bezos with an antitrust investigation after
the Post assigned 20 reporters to investigate The Donald. Trump also has
said that he wants to “open up” libel laws to make it easier to sue the
press.
Those who dislike President Obama’s abuse of his executive authority to
bypass Congress, should expect more of the same from Donald Trump. Trump
has said that Obama “led the way” on Executive Orders and that he is
“going to do a lot of things” with executive actions.
Trump’s embrace of conspiracy theories also sets him apart from other
politicians. Trump has advocated theories ranging from birtherism to 9/11
trutherism to the bizarre claim that Ted Cruz’s father was involved in
the Kennedy assassination. Trump is either very gullible or cynically
exploits believers in conspiracy theories for publicity. Perhaps both.
It may be Trump’s poor judgment that garnered his endorsement from ISIS.
Yes, the terrorist group ISIS has expressed support for Trump according
to multiple sources cited in “Time.” One ISIS supporter said, “The
‘facilitation’ of Trump’s arrival in the White House must be a priority
for jihadists at any cost!!!” [emphasis his]. “I ask Allah to deliver
America to Trump,” wrote another.
From the Middle East to Mexico, where Trump refused to rule out the
possibility of going to war over payment for his wall, Trump’s errors of
judgment are the product of willful ignorance and a bully mentality.
Interestingly, the bully backed down when he actually met Mexican
President Nieto face-to-face, only to launch a salvo of bombast when he
was safely back across the border in Arizona.
The final two problems between Trump ‘s judgment are egregious. Either
one should disqualify a candidate even without the consideration of any
other issue.
First, Trump’s affinity for Vladimir Putin is naïve and dangerous.
Trump’s admiration for Putin is seen in his campaign staffing and may
have impacted his proposed foreign policy on Ukraine. Trump has
surrounded himself with pro-Putin advisors such as Paul Manafort, Carter
Page and Michael Flynn. There is strong evidence that the Russians are
trying to influence the election on behalf of Trump. Donald Trump has an
obvious blind spot when dealing with Vladimir Putin and Russia that could
be dangerous. In fact, Trump’s affinity for Putin is already making the
precarious situation in the Ukraine worse.
Finally, there is the fact that Trump has openly advocated political
violence on numerous occasions. In my near-half century, I cannot
remember a single candidate who has encouraged his supporters to “rough
up” political opponents as Trump did. Trump also made a veiled threat
that there would be “riots” if Republicans contested his nomination at
the convention. Violence has been mostly absent from American politics
since the 1968 riots at the Democratic convention in Chicago. Until
Trump. For that reason alone, he cannot be trusted with power.
Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are both poor choices. They are both
progressive. They are both liars. They are both corrupt. The both have
poor judgment. They would both be destructive for America.
Source: http://bit.ly/2dpjw9g
--
"You want to talk about deplorable, then how about the lower half of
white America that has been paying for the liberal agenda for the last
half century not in taxes, but in diminished lives, so that liberals
could pat themselves on the back for their compassion and their
passionate activism." Democrat-owned media has tried desperately to hide;
that the Democratic Party is not a political party but a crime cartel
peddling lies, trading influence for dollars, and crushing the
aspirations of anyone stupid enough to actually believe in it."
(Christopher Chantrill)
percentage of voters remain undecided on whether to vote for Donald Trump
or Hillary Clinton or someone else. Unlike previous elections, many
undecided voters are educated, savvy conservatives who have not committed
to Donald Trump, a Wall Street Journal analysis reported. Like me, many
of these voters are repelled by both candidates.
Donald Trump may not be perfect, the argument goes, he may say silly and
offensive things, but he’s still better than Hillary Clinton. It’s true
that the one thing that Donald Trump has going for him is that he isn’t
Hillary, but that doesn’t mean that he is necessarily better than
Hillary. As we learned from Barack Obama in 2008, “change” doesn’t always
mean “better.” Let’s look closer at Mr. Trump to find out whether he
truly is the lesser evil.
My problems with Trump can be boiled down to three areas: character,
policy and judgment. It isn’t just that Trump says silly and insulting
things. He seems to be a genuinely bad and untrustworthy person. On many
levels, his character flaws are astonishingly similar to those of Hillary
Clinton. His ideas are as flawed and half-formed as his character, often
seemingly thrown out on a whim, only to be retracted or disavowed later.
Likewise, Trump’s judgment is quick, brash and often wrong.
Uncharacteristically bad
The most obvious character flaw of both candidates is their propensity
for lying. Their relationships with the truth are so nebulous that they
both lie about small, stupid, easily disprovable things. They lie even
when they don’t have to. The Daily Wire compiled a list of 101 of Trump’s
lies, hardly all inclusive, and, after analyzing his speeches, found
that, on average, he lied every five minutes. In 2015, after half a year
in politics, Politifact gave Trump the “Lie of the Year” award, not for
one specific fib as it did for President Obama, but for lifetime
achievement. The sheer volume of Trump falsehoods floods the zone of
anyone trying to keep him honest.
Trump’s fundamental untrustworthiness is underscored by corruption that
also rivals that of the Clintons. The most famous instance of Trump’s
corruption is the Trump University case where Trump stands accused of
being a literal con man who bilked novice real estate investors out of
tens of thousands of dollars of their hard-earned money. That is not the
full extent of his corruption, however.
Trump has a long history of using eminent domain, the government seizure
of private property, to take homes from the poor to build or expand his
luxury properties. In one famous case, Trump tried to use eminent domain
to bulldoze the home of Vera Coking, an elderly widow, in order to build
a parking lot for his Trump Plaza hotel and casino in Atlantic City.
Trump lost that case in court.
The Trump Plaza was one of several Trump casinos that went bankrupt in
the early 1990s, leaving investors and creditors on the hook for most of
the losses. Trump’s casinos were funded with debt that left them
unprofitable when most casinos were thriving. Trump also left a trail of
unpaid bills from contractors and employees in his wake, according to an
investigation by USA Today. Among the people he allegedly stiffed were
bartenders, waiters and other hourly employees who sued Trump – and won –
for unpaid wages.
In 1973, Trump and his father were named as defendants in a suit by the
federal government for violations of the Fair Housing Act. The charge was
segregating the company’s rental buildings by refusing to rent to
minorities like Maxine Brown, a 33-year-old black nurse. A New York Times
investigation found a long list of racial complaints against Trump
Management on file at the New York Commission on Human Rights. The Trumps
settled and agreed to desegregate their buildings in 1973.
In spite of having illegal immigration as a signature issue, Trump also
has a long record of violating immigration law at his companies. In the
1980s, Trump used illegal Polish immigrants on construction projects.
Several former models have also accused Trump of exploiting them and
hiring them to work without U.S. work visas. The women say that Trump
Model Management taught them how to circumvent U.S. immigration and labor
laws. As recently as last year, many Hispanic workers on at least one
Trump construction project were reported to be illegal aliens.
Trump also has a corrupt foundation to compete with the corrupt Clinton
Foundation. In a serious scandal that is just emerging, the Donald J.
Trump Foundation made an illegal payment of $25,000 to Florida attorney
general Pam Bondi a few days before she decided not to pursue a case
against Trump University. Shortly after the decision, Trump held another
fundraiser for Bondi at his Mar-a-Lago mansion. The Trump Foundation also
gave $100,000 to a group that sued the New York attorney general who sued
Trump over Trump University.
Numerous reports indicate that Trump has invested little in his charity
foundation yet has profited handsomely from it. The Washington Post found
that Trump used the Trump Foundation’s charitable funds as his own
piggybank. Trump used charity funds to settle a legal dispute with the
city of Palm Beach, Florida. The agreement had stipulated that Trump’s
Mar-a-Lago Club would pay for the settlement. Trump also used charity
funds, which were almost entirely donated by others, to buy portraits of
himself and advertise his hotels.
If that were not enough, Trump is accused of having ties to the mafia
resulting from his use of mob-owned firms in construction projects and
his days as an Atlantic City casino operator. Trump also took $150,000
from a September 11 fund earmarked to help small businesses recover from
the attack. Trump said that the payment was for helping victims of the
attack, but the New York Daily News found that the funds were issued for
“rent loss,” “cleanup” and “repair.”
Trump and Hillary both share a lack of character that is disturbing to
see in a possible president. Further, the scale of corruption is not an
indication of who is more corrupt. As Jesus said, “Whoever can be trusted
with very little can also be trusted with much, and whoever is dishonest
with very little will also be dishonest with much” (Luke 16:10). One bit
of corruption makes a person completely corrupt.
Left of center
Even if Trump’s character is just as bad as Hillary’s, who has no
shortage of corruption and incompetence charges herself, it might still
be tempting to vote for Trump if he could be trusted, under close
supervision, to enact a broad agenda of conservative reform. What does
Trump stand for?
Several issues stand out where most reluctant Trump supporters say he is
preferable to Hillary Clinton. Unlike Hillary, they say, Trump won’t
threaten the Second Amendment or raise taxes. He’s better on religious
liberty and abortion, they argue. Is he?
On many issues Trump is incoherent and the Second Amendment is no
exception. CNN chronicles his “evolution” on gun control. Prior to
running for president, Trump supported assault weapons bans and waiting
periods. Even today, Trump takes the Democrat position that people on TSA
watch lists should be banned from buying guns. In contrast, Hillary
supports expanding background checks and reinstating the same assault
weapons ban that Trump supported before he ran for president.
On taxes, the Trump campaign has advanced a plan that would cut income
taxes, but at the same time he has left open the possibility of another
tax increase, saying last May,” “I am willing to pay more, and you know
what, the wealthy are willing to pay more.” Trump has refused to reveal
exactly how much he does pay in taxes. In August, he revised his tax plan
with higher rates than he had proposed in the primary. Clinton has
proposed a bevy of tax hikes that would fall primarily on wealthy
Americans and businesses.
Often not discussed as taxes are Trump’s tariffs, huge tax increases on
trade. Trump bragged that his views on trade were “very similar” to those
of Bernie Sanders. Trump’s massive tariffs on trade with Mexico, China
and Japan and the possible destruction of NAFTA, one of the most
successful trade agreements in history, would be devastating. Trump’s
trade policy would make items more expensive for American consumers and
businesses. One study found that Trump’s tariffs would cost Americans
more than $11,000 per year. This is much more than they would save from
income tax rate cuts. The Wall Street Journal, the most conservative
paper in the country, found that Trump’s trade policy would likely start
a trade war and fuel a recession that could cost 5 million jobs.
On religious liberty, Trump was the sole Republican of the final four not
to pledge to sign the First Amendment Defense Act (FADA) to protect gay
marriage dissidents from federal action. Trump was critical of Kentucky
county clerk, Kim Davis, for her faith-based refusal to issue same-sex
marriage licenses. When asked about protections for Christian businesses
in a meeting with evangelical leaders, Donald Wildman said, “Either he
doesn’t understand it or he doesn’t agree with us and he doesn’t want to
tell us that.” Trump’s main focus in the battle for religious liberty
seems to be allowing churches to endorse candidates without losing their
tax-exempt status.
On the subject of abortion, Trump is particularly incoherent. As late as
March, Trump was praising abortion provider Planned Parenthood and was
the sole Republican to resist cutting funding for the group. Trump may
have set a personal best for flip-flops when he took five different
positions on abortion in three days. Most recently, two months before
Election Day Trump reinvented himself as a staunch abortion opponent.
The flip-flops and liberal positions don’t stop there. Trump said that he
wants to repeal Obamacare. The hitch is that he has said he wants to
replace it with government-funded, universal healthcare.
On spending and the debt, Trump said just last month that “this is a time
to borrow.” Trump would use those borrowed funds on an infrastructure
stimulus spending package that is twice as big as the one that Hillary
proposes. Entitlements are the largest driver of deficit spending, yet
Trump refuses to consider entitlement reform.
For those who would like to see pro-business regulatory reform, Trump
does not look promising. He has advocated more banking regulation by
reviving the New Deal-era Glass-Steagall Act, which prohibited banks from
diversifying into insurance. He also unveiled a plan to require
businesses to offer paid maternity leave, a tax-and-spend plan to be paid
for through state unemployment taxes.
On the economy, Trump did a full flip-flop with a half twist when he
suddenly decided to back another progressive position and call for an
increase to the minimum wage. Trump advocates an increase in the federal
minimum wage to $10 per hour. In the past, he has advocated a minimum
wage as high as $15 per hour while also arguing that “wages are too
high.”
Trump dislikes other treaties in addition to NAFTA. He has threatened to
reconsider American defense alliances with both NATO countries and South
Korea. In spite of Trump’s criticism of Obama’s not-a-treaty with Iran,
he has no plans to scrap the nuclear deal. When it comes to fighting
ISIS, Trump’s call for attacks with aircraft and drones and the
establishment of a coalition are essentially the same strategy that
President Obama has employed.
What makes Trump especially dangerous…
Trump is a liar and a man of poor character. He also does not exhibit
core principles and tends to default to leftist positions. So does
Hillary. But wait, as they might say in a Trump University infomercial,
there’s more! Donald Trump displays several difficulties that are so
uniquely bad that they should disqualify him from the presidency, even if
the only other alternative is Hillary Clinton. Many of these problems
stem from Trump’s poor judgment.
When most people think of Trump’s lack of judgment, they think of things
like how he mocked a disabled reporter or set about with the character
assassination of the parents of a fallen American soldier. In reality,
his errors in judgment go far beyond such trivialities to attacks on
civil liberties and statements that would be matters of war and peace if
he were president.
In statements reminiscent of Barack Obama, Trump threatened Washington
Post and Amazon owner Jeff Bezos with an antitrust investigation after
the Post assigned 20 reporters to investigate The Donald. Trump also has
said that he wants to “open up” libel laws to make it easier to sue the
press.
Those who dislike President Obama’s abuse of his executive authority to
bypass Congress, should expect more of the same from Donald Trump. Trump
has said that Obama “led the way” on Executive Orders and that he is
“going to do a lot of things” with executive actions.
Trump’s embrace of conspiracy theories also sets him apart from other
politicians. Trump has advocated theories ranging from birtherism to 9/11
trutherism to the bizarre claim that Ted Cruz’s father was involved in
the Kennedy assassination. Trump is either very gullible or cynically
exploits believers in conspiracy theories for publicity. Perhaps both.
It may be Trump’s poor judgment that garnered his endorsement from ISIS.
Yes, the terrorist group ISIS has expressed support for Trump according
to multiple sources cited in “Time.” One ISIS supporter said, “The
‘facilitation’ of Trump’s arrival in the White House must be a priority
for jihadists at any cost!!!” [emphasis his]. “I ask Allah to deliver
America to Trump,” wrote another.
From the Middle East to Mexico, where Trump refused to rule out the
possibility of going to war over payment for his wall, Trump’s errors of
judgment are the product of willful ignorance and a bully mentality.
Interestingly, the bully backed down when he actually met Mexican
President Nieto face-to-face, only to launch a salvo of bombast when he
was safely back across the border in Arizona.
The final two problems between Trump ‘s judgment are egregious. Either
one should disqualify a candidate even without the consideration of any
other issue.
First, Trump’s affinity for Vladimir Putin is naïve and dangerous.
Trump’s admiration for Putin is seen in his campaign staffing and may
have impacted his proposed foreign policy on Ukraine. Trump has
surrounded himself with pro-Putin advisors such as Paul Manafort, Carter
Page and Michael Flynn. There is strong evidence that the Russians are
trying to influence the election on behalf of Trump. Donald Trump has an
obvious blind spot when dealing with Vladimir Putin and Russia that could
be dangerous. In fact, Trump’s affinity for Putin is already making the
precarious situation in the Ukraine worse.
Finally, there is the fact that Trump has openly advocated political
violence on numerous occasions. In my near-half century, I cannot
remember a single candidate who has encouraged his supporters to “rough
up” political opponents as Trump did. Trump also made a veiled threat
that there would be “riots” if Republicans contested his nomination at
the convention. Violence has been mostly absent from American politics
since the 1968 riots at the Democratic convention in Chicago. Until
Trump. For that reason alone, he cannot be trusted with power.
Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are both poor choices. They are both
progressive. They are both liars. They are both corrupt. The both have
poor judgment. They would both be destructive for America.
Source: http://bit.ly/2dpjw9g
--
"You want to talk about deplorable, then how about the lower half of
white America that has been paying for the liberal agenda for the last
half century not in taxes, but in diminished lives, so that liberals
could pat themselves on the back for their compassion and their
passionate activism." Democrat-owned media has tried desperately to hide;
that the Democratic Party is not a political party but a crime cartel
peddling lies, trading influence for dollars, and crushing the
aspirations of anyone stupid enough to actually believe in it."
(Christopher Chantrill)
Alosaurus
Sep 27, 2016, 12:42:14 PM9/27/16
to
On 9/27/2016 10:10 AM, Joe Cooper wrote:
> Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are both poor choices.
Nope, Trump is a GREAT choice!
> Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are both poor choices.
> They are both progressive.
Reagan and Kennedy would have graded out similarly today
> They are both liars.
All politicians lie.
> They are both corrupt.
Only Clintoon has an international money laundeing, influence-peddling
foundation - period.
> The both have poor judgment.
> They would both be destructive for America.
Stop fronting for the Butcher of Benghazi, you miserable puke!
Rudy Canoza
Sep 27, 2016, 1:04:58 PM9/27/16
to
On 9/27/2016 9:42 AM, Alosaurus wrote:
> On 9/27/2016 10:10 AM, Joe Cooper wrote:
>> Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are both poor choices.
>
> Nope, Trump is a GREAT choice!
No, they're both filth, but Trump is filthier.
> On 9/27/2016 10:10 AM, Joe Cooper wrote:
>> Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are both poor choices.
>
> Nope, Trump is a GREAT choice!
>> They are both progressive.
>
> Reagan and Kennedy would have graded out similarly today
>> They are both liars.
>
> All politicians lie.
>> They are both corrupt.
>
> Only Clintoon has an international money laundeing, influence-peddling
> foundation - period.
Trump has chiseled every jurisdiction in which he has ever done
business. He also cheats every contractor.
>> The both have poor judgment.
>
> Trump's "judgement is just fine, his net worth proves so.
ever. Trump's net worth is a minute fraction of what he claims.
>> They would both be destructive for America.
>
> You are a liar and traitor to this nation, asshole!
Alosaurus
Sep 27, 2016, 1:43:25 PM9/27/16
to
On 9/27/2016 11:04 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
> On 9/27/2016 9:42 AM, Alosaurus wrote:
>> On 9/27/2016 10:10 AM, Joe Cooper wrote:
>>> Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are both poor choices.
>>
>> Nope, Trump is a GREAT choice!
>
> No, they're both filth, but Trump is filthier.
Observably not - no one has died on HIS watch from lack of security and
> On 9/27/2016 9:42 AM, Alosaurus wrote:
>> On 9/27/2016 10:10 AM, Joe Cooper wrote:
>>> Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are both poor choices.
>>
>> Nope, Trump is a GREAT choice!
>
> No, they're both filth, but Trump is filthier.
focused military response.
He never lied and blamed anything on a fictional you tube video.
Trump also didn't help create ISIS.
And Trump didn't create an international money-laundering, influence
peddling tax shelter.
You must be in love with the Illuminati's status quo uni-party shell
game, Jonathan.
>>> They are both progressive.
>>
>> Reagan and Kennedy would have graded out similarly today
>
> Not even close.
http://www.forwardprogressives.com/4-things-conservatives-hate-to-admit-about-ronald-reagan/
>>> They are both liars.
>>
>> All politicians lie.
>
> Clinton and Trump lie much more than most politicians.
He exaggerates, but his numbers on crime and trade were spot-on last night.
>>> They are both corrupt.
>>
>> Only Clintoon has an international money laundeing, influence-peddling
>> foundation - period.
>
> No money laundering.
http://www.infowars.com/fbi-source-clinton-foundation-can-bring-down-entire-government/
The Clinton Foundation is a “massive spider web of connections and money
laundering implicating hundreds of high-level people,” according to an
anonymous insider who revealed why the FBI stopped short of indicting
Hillary Clinton.
> It *is* influence peddling.
No duh!
> Trump has chiseled every jurisdiction in which he has ever done
> business.
Citation?
No?
Next!
> He also cheats every contractor.
Citation?
No?
Next!
>>> The both have poor judgment.
>>
>> Trump's "judgement is just fine, his net worth proves so.
>
> Trump's judgment in politics is the worst of any presidential candidate
> ever.
all to see!
Political suicide that was.
You'd think maybe he didn't care too.
> Trump's net worth is a minute fraction of what he claims.
Citation?
No?
Next!
>>> They would both be destructive for America.
>>
>> You are a liar and traitor to this nation, asshole!
>
> No. You are, spammy.
Governor Swill
Sep 27, 2016, 2:14:56 PM9/27/16
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No.
Swill
--
#imwithher #strongertogether
Just because I found this fascinating reading . . .
"Can Conservatives...or Liberals... Govern?"
http://davidbrin.blogspot.com/2006/07/can-conservativesor-liberals-govern.html
Swill
--
#imwithher #strongertogether
Just because I found this fascinating reading . . .
"Can Conservatives...or Liberals... Govern?"
http://davidbrin.blogspot.com/2006/07/can-conservativesor-liberals-govern.html
Rudy Canoza
Sep 27, 2016, 2:16:11 PM9/27/16
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On 9/27/2016 11:14 AM, Dogcatcher Swine blabbered:
> No.
>
> Swine
Your opinion has no value.
> No.
>
> Swine
Your opinion has no value.
Siri Cruise
Sep 27, 2016, 2:51:45 PM9/27/16
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In article <nse7h5$oou$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Alosaurus <m...@bil.oil> wrote:
> Only Clintoon has an international money laundeing, influence-peddling
> foundation - period.
So you haven't heard about the Trump Foundation and the bribes it paid to Bondi.
> Only Clintoon has an international money laundeing, influence-peddling
> foundation - period.
Full stop.
--
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'
If you assume the final scene is a dying delusion as Tom Cruise drowns below
the Louvre, then Edge of Tomorrow has a happy ending. Kill Tom repeat..
Alosaurus
Sep 27, 2016, 6:06:08 PM9/27/16
to
On 9/27/2016 12:14 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> No.
>
> Swill
>
Yes.
No one trusts subhuman "swill".
> No.
>
> Swill
>
Yes.
No one trusts subhuman "swill".
Alosaurus
Sep 27, 2016, 6:06:29 PM9/27/16
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Alosaurus
Sep 27, 2016, 6:10:33 PM9/27/16
to
On 9/27/2016 12:51 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> In article <nse7h5$oou$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Alosaurus <m...@bil.oil> wrote:
>
>> Only Clintoon has an international money laundeing, influence-peddling
>> foundation - period.
>
> So you haven't heard about the Trump Foundation
Trump was never Secretary of State nor a US Senator.
> In article <nse7h5$oou$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Alosaurus <m...@bil.oil> wrote:
>
>> Only Clintoon has an international money laundeing, influence-peddling
>> foundation - period.
>
> So you haven't heard about the Trump Foundation
Klintoon SELLS access to herself.
She also is in the bag to the Saudis and Bahrain.
You know these things of course, but a true denier must pretend they do
not exist.
AdorableDeplorable
Sep 28, 2016, 1:09:31 AM9/28/16
to
On 9/27/2016 1:14 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> Absolutely.
Makes sense.
>
> Swill
>
> Absolutely.
Makes sense.
>
> Swill
>
Governor Swill
Sep 28, 2016, 4:37:57 PM9/28/16
to
On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 10:42:12 -0600, Alosaurus <m...@bil.oil> wrote:
>On 9/27/2016 10:10 AM, Joe Cooper wrote:
>> Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are both poor choices.
>
>Nope, Trump is a GREAT choice!
If you want to see the country destroyed, yes.
>On 9/27/2016 10:10 AM, Joe Cooper wrote:
>> Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are both poor choices.
>
>Nope, Trump is a GREAT choice!
>> They are both progressive.
>
>Reagan and Kennedy would have graded out similarly today
millions more into the country. Kennedy wrote the Civil Rights Act
that was passed by LBJ the year after his death.
>> They are both liars.
>
>All politicians lie.
everything, even stuff that isn't important, even when the truth would
have served his purpose better.
>> They are both corrupt.
>
>Only Clintoon has an international money laundeing, influence-peddling
>foundation - period.
financed Russian mob and oligarch money. Do we really want a
President who's beholden to Russia? Who's lied repeatedly about his
wealth and is terrified the public might see his tax returns?
>> The both have poor judgment.
>
>Trump's "judgement is just fine, his net worth proves so.
bankrupting, cheating contractors and employees out of their pay and
being bailed out by his dad via both legal and illegal loans.
>> They would both be destructive for America.
>
>You are a liar and traitor to this nation, asshole!
by Russia, North Korea and ISIS.
>Stop fronting for the Butcher of Benghazi, you miserable puke!
David Petraeus who, while doing a covert gun running operation out of
Benghazi, screwed it up and killed four Americans including the US
Ambassador.
Alosaurus
Sep 28, 2016, 4:57:19 PM9/28/16
to
On 9/28/2016 2:37 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 10:42:12 -0600, Alosaurus <m...@bil.oil> wrote:
>
>> On 9/27/2016 10:10 AM, Joe Cooper wrote:
>>> Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are both poor choices.
>>
>> Nope, Trump is a GREAT choice!
>
> If you want to see the country destroyed, yes.
I want to see YOU and your Hotlanta gay coven destroyed!
> On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 10:42:12 -0600, Alosaurus <m...@bil.oil> wrote:
>
>> On 9/27/2016 10:10 AM, Joe Cooper wrote:
>>> Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are both poor choices.
>>
>> Nope, Trump is a GREAT choice!
>
> If you want to see the country destroyed, yes.
Sadly Trump is to nice to do any such thing.
Oh well...
>>> They are both progressive.
>>
>> Reagan and Kennedy would have graded out similarly today
>
> Reagan granted amnesty to millions of illegal Mexicans and invited
> millions more into the country.
> Kennedy wrote the Civil Rights Act
> that was passed by LBJ the year after his death.
>>> They are both liars.
>>
>> All politicians lie.
>
> About ordinary political things like culpability. Trump lies about
> everything,
That's Shillary's game.
She can't even tell the truth about how many Blackberries she had staff
smash for her.
> even stuff that isn't important, even when the truth would
> have served his purpose better.
The mother of Sean Smith, one of the four Americans killed at the
American consulate in Benghazi, Libya in 2012, exploded in response to a
clip of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton‘s prior testimony on
the matter.
CNN Newsroom host Carol Costello was taken aback when Patricia Smith
revealed in conversation that she actually didn’t know much about what
happened to her son — despite the fact that the Benghazi attack occurred
three years ago. Smith responded in kind, claiming that although Clinton
promised to “get back to” her following her son’s funeral ceremony in
Washington, D.C., no one had since contacted her on the matter.
“She has not called me. She has not contacted me. She has not given me
any information,” she said, “except to tell me that I am not a member of
the immediate family and I do not need to know.”
“They told you that?” an obviously surprised Costello asked.
As alarming at Smith’s claims were, however, she really let her feelings
be known when Costello played a clip from Clinton’s testimony in January
2013. At the time, Clinton said that it was their job “to figure out
what happened and do everything [they could] to prevent it from
happening again.”
Smith’s response? “She’s lying! She’s absolutely lying!”
The frustrated, bereaved mother of Sean Smith went on to repeat her
claim that — despite being the mother of the fallen diplomat — she
wasn’t told anything after the funeral ceremony because they didn’t
consider her a member of the immediate family.
“I saw on TV the bloody fingerprints on the walls over there. I asked
specifically, ‘Are those my son’s fingerprints crawling down the
walls?'” she cried. “Somebody’s got to tell me!”
Clinton previously spoke with Smith during a town hall event in June
2014. Despite the direct address, however, the grieving mother later
expressed her frustration with Clinton and demanded the truth.
Check out the clip above, via CNN.
>>> They are both corrupt.
>>
>> Only Clintoon has an international money laundeing, influence-peddling
>> foundation - period.
>
> While those allegations are unproven,
http://thefederalist.com/2015/04/29/is-the-clinton-foundation-just-an-international-money-laundering-scheme/
BloombergPolitics reported this morning that the Clinton Foundation
refused to disclose the identities of at least 1,100 donors, most of
whom are not U.S. citizens, to a Clinton Foundation affiliate. The
donations were routed through the Clinton Giustra Enterprise Partnership
(Canada), or CGEPartnership, a Canadian charitable organization. That
organization then effectively bundled the foreign donations and sent
them along to the Clinton Foundation itself, and it did all of this
without ever disclosing the individual foreign sources of the income.
If that sounds to you like more of a laundering operation than a
charitable organization, that’s because it certainly looks like more of
a laundering operation than a charitable organization. In this case,
however, rather than taking cash from blatantly illegal activities (as
far as we know) and then cleaning it up by running it through legitimate
businesses before it ends up at its final destination, the Clinton
Foundation mops up cash from wealthy foreigners, bundles it within a
larger organization to hide the money’s original source, and then
funnels the cash from that legitimate charity right into the Clinton
Foundation coffers.
> it is proven that Trump is being
> financed Russian mob and oligarch money.
> Do we really want a
> President who's beholden to Russia?
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article24782695.html
Four oil-rich Arab nations, all with histories of philanthropy to United
Nations and Middle Eastern causes, have donated vastly more money to the
Clinton Foundation than they have to most other large private charities
involved in the kinds of global work championed by the Clinton family.
Since 2001, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates gave
as much as $40 million to the Clinton Foundation. In contrast, six
similar non-governmental global charities collected no money from those
same four Middle Eastern countries; the International Committee of the
Red Cross was given $6.82 million. Since 2001, these global foundations
have raised a staggering $40 billion to $50 billion to fund their
humanitarian work.
The existence of foreign donors to the Clinton Foundation has been
well-documented in the media. What hasn’t been revealed, however, is the
disparity in donations by these four nations, all of which have been
criticized by the State Department over the years for a spate of issues
ranging from the mistreatment of women to stoking ethnic discord in the
flammable Middle East.
Moreover, the level of Arab support for the Clinton Foundation, which
occurred during the time Hillary Clinton was a U.S. senator, was seeking
the Democratic nomination for president against Barack Obama, and was
serving as secretary of state, fuels questions about the reasons for the
donations. Were they solely to support the foundation’s causes, or were
they designed to curry favor with the ex-president and with a potential
future president?
Mideast nations favor contributions to Clinton Foundation
Between 2001 and 2014 Middle Eastern countries gave $18 million to $50
million to the Clinton Foundation, accounting for 1.4 to 4 percent of
contributions over the period. In contrast, the same nations gave about
$6.82 million to the International Committee for the Red Cross,
accounting for less than 1 percent of the $11.2 billion in contributions
the organization received.
Saudi Arabia
$10 million to $25 million
Qatar
$1 million to $5 million
Oman
$1 million to $5 million
UAE
$1 million to $5 million
> Who's lied repeatedly about his
> wealth and is terrified the public might see his tax returns?
http://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/09/26/clinton-trump-debate-hofstra-tax-returns-sot-four.cnn
Donald Trump says he will release his tax returns if Hillary Clinton
releases the emails that she deleted.
>>> The both have poor judgment.
>>
>> Trump's "judgement is just fine, his net worth proves so.
>
> If you don't count all the hundreds of millions he's made by
> bankrupting, cheating contractors and employees out of their pay and
> being bailed out by his dad via both legal and illegal loans.
And 4 bankruptcies out of a total of 500-600 business ventures is
utterly insignificant, like you Swillerator,
>>> They would both be destructive for America.
>>
>> You are a liar and traitor to this nation, asshole!
>
> As is anybody who would vote for Donald Trump.
ONLY him.
> A candidate endorsed
> by Russia, North Korea and ISIS.
She is an agent of the Saudis.
She is a whore to former Nazi property confiscator George Soros.
She is a serial lair who has her associates killed off when they become
inconvenient.
She is the living embodiment of corruption so deeply seated it makes
the Mafia weep in envy.
>> Stop fronting for the Butcher of Benghazi, you miserable puke!
>
> He's supporting Hillary Clinton.
> The real "Butcher of Benghazi" was
> David Petraeus
embassy personnel?
Shillary made them change clothes 4 times in the middle of the night so
as to avoid "offending anyone".
Meanwhile Ambassador Stevens was being ritually sodomized to death in
the street with a broomstick.
You will PAY dearly for your treason Swill, I mean real dearly!
Wayne
Sep 28, 2016, 5:16:23 PM9/28/16
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On 9/28/2016 1:37 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 10:42:12 -0600, Alosaurus <m...@bil.oil> wrote:
>
>> On 9/27/2016 10:10 AM, Joe Cooper wrote:
>>> Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are both poor choices.
>>
>> Nope, Trump is a GREAT choice!
>
> If you want to see the country destroyed, yes.
>
We don't know what Trump would do. But, that is an infinitely better
> On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 10:42:12 -0600, Alosaurus <m...@bil.oil> wrote:
>
>> On 9/27/2016 10:10 AM, Joe Cooper wrote:
>>> Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are both poor choices.
>>
>> Nope, Trump is a GREAT choice!
>
> If you want to see the country destroyed, yes.
>
choice that letting Hillary do what she has promised to do.
Governor Swill
Sep 28, 2016, 5:29:25 PM9/28/16
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On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 11:43:21 -0600, Alosaurus <m...@bil.oil> wrote:
You wanted citations, you got 'em!
>On 9/27/2016 11:04 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> On 9/27/2016 9:42 AM, Alosaurus wrote:
>>> On 9/27/2016 10:10 AM, Joe Cooper wrote:
>>>> Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are both poor choices.
>>> Nope, Trump is a GREAT choice!
>> No, they're both filth, but Trump is filthier.
>Observably not - no one has died on HIS watch from lack of security and
>focused military response.
Only because he hasn't been put "on watch". The last thing we need is
a needledick bug fucker in charge of our nuclear arsenal.
>He never lied and blamed anything on a fictional you tube video.
He lies about everything else.
>Trump also didn't help create ISIS.
No, George Bush, also a Republican, did that. He financed them too,
with tens of billions in hundred dollar bills flown into Iraq on
pallets.
>And Trump didn't create an international money-laundering, influence
>peddling tax shelter.
Sure he has. It's run through Iceland and Kazakhstan to hide the
sources of the money.
>You must be in love with the Illuminati's status quo uni-party shell
>game, Jonathan.
"Illuminati"? Damn. I thought you were posing a serious argument.
Turns out you're just another tin foil hat freak off his meds. My
bad.
>>>> They are both progressive.
>>> Reagan and Kennedy would have graded out similarly today
>> Not even close.
>Very much so:
>http://www.forwardprogressives.com/4-things-conservatives-hate-to-admit-about-ronald-reagan/
This article doesn't list Reagan's 11 million illegals granted amnesty
or his toothless immigration bill that invited in millions more.
>>>> They are both liars.
>>> All politicians lie.
>> Clinton and Trump lie much more than most politicians.
>Clinton yes, Trump no.
>He exaggerates, but his numbers on crime and trade were spot-on last night.
No, they weren't. They were dead wrong. Crime rates had been
dropping in NYC almost a decade before stop and frisk and the
reduction rates didn't increase after it was implemented. Of all the
millions of random stops made under the program, less than 0.2% found
a gun and most of those were legal ones.
>>>> They are both corrupt.
>>> Only Clintoon has an international money laundeing, influence-peddling
>>> foundation - period.
>> No money laundering.
>Yes - money laundering:
>
>http://www.infowars.com/fbi-source-clinton-foundation-can-bring-down-entire-government/
Don't cite infowars in here. Nobody with more than two brain cells to
rub together believes anything posted in that rag.
>The Clinton Foundation is a “massive spider web of connections
Connections that will come in very handy in the conduct of foreign
policy.
> and money
>laundering implicating hundreds of high-level people,” according to an
>anonymous insider who revealed why the FBI stopped short of indicting
>Hillary Clinton.
In your feverish mind, perhaps.
>> It *is* influence peddling.
>
>No duh!
So you agree that influence peddling should be done the old fashioned
way, through campaign contributions?
>> Trump has chiseled every jurisdiction in which he has ever done
>> business.
>
>"Every"?
>
>Citation?
Not every. But several, yes, he has.
Trump has freely admitted contributing to pols campaigns in exchange
for favors. He's also been found to have paid off a Florida Attorney
General to drop an investigation against him and did it with money
from his supposed "charitable" foundation. Seems the only charity the
Trump Foundation - which hasn't recieved a dime from Trump in eight
years - is Trump himself.
"Call it Trump’s ‘donategate.’
"But now, Trump’s $25,000 gift to Florida’s attorney general is
stirring a blizzard of controversy. Critics claim that the
contribution swayed AG Pam Bondi’s decision not to investigate
scandal-plagued, now-defunct Trump University.
"The story of how a Bondi PAC received a big check from Trump Tower
just days before the AG declined to probe Trump U, how the money
arrived as an illegal gift from, of all sources, Trump’s charitable
foundation, and the remarkable string of coincidences the Trump camp
claims led to an innocent error, forms one of the most intriguing,
ongoing subplots of the presidential campaign."
http://fortune.com/2016/09/12/trump-foundation-bondi-florida-ag/
"Bondi admitted to personally soliciting a contribution from Trump
days before dropping an investigation into Trump U. The money was
paid to her by the Trump Foundation, a supposed charity organization.
"Florida's attorney general personally solicited a political
contribution from Donald Trump around the same time her office
deliberated joining an investigation of alleged fraud at Trump
University and its affiliates
"The new disclosure from Attorney General Pam Bondi's spokesman to The
Associated Press on Monday provides additional details around the
unusual circumstances of Trump's $25,000 donation to Bondi.
"The money came from a Trump family foundation in apparent violation
of rules surrounding political activities by charities. A political
group backing Bondi's re-election, called And Justice for All,
reported receiving the check Sept. 17, 2013 — four days after Bondi's
office publicly announced she was considering joining a New York state
probe of Trump University's activities, according to a 2013 report in
the Orlando Sentinel.
http://tinyurl.com/gr8dfpr
>> He also cheats every contractor.
>"Every"?
>Citation?
Not every, several hundred.
"Donald Trump casts himself as a protector of workers and jobs, but a
USA TODAY NETWORK investigation found hundreds of people – carpenters,
dishwashers, painters, even his own lawyers – who say he didn’t pay
them for their work."
http://tinyurl.com/zt3e55p
Not counting the employee class actions for back wages which he lost
and had to pay up.
"Hundreds Of Donald Trump’s Employees Have Sued For Alleged Labor
Infractions" http://tinyurl.com/zvd2twe
"Offscreen, hundreds of current and former Trump Organization
employees have accused the company of being less than fair and more
than tough. Multiple lawsuits have targeted Trump's businesses over
the years with allegations ranging from anti-union intimidation to
hiring undocumented workers. In one case, the Trump Organization paid
$475,000 to settle a claim with nearly 300 Los Angeles golf club
employees in a class-action suit alleging unpaid wages and age
discrimination, among other offenses.
"In another instance, in 1999, the Trump Organization settled for an
unknown sum more than 15 years after unionized workers first accused
the company of employing undocumented Polish immigrants at a New York
demolition site. The workers allegedly "were paid $5 an hour or less
when they were paid at all," and "worked 12-hour shifts, seven days a
week with no overtime," "
http://tinyurl.com/zvd2twe
>Next!
Ok, how about this story of his Foundation being under scrutiny?
"Trump Foundation Faces Scrutiny Too, Regarding Political
Contribution"
"Donald Trump has long insisted he's uniquely qualified to fix a
political system corrupted by campaign contributions because he knows
that system inside and out.
""I give to everybody," Trump said in a Fox News debate last summer.
"When they call, I give. And you know what? When I need something from
them, two years later, three years later? I call them. They are there
for me.""
http://tinyurl.com/hls3kc6
"How Donald Trump retooled his charity to spend other people’s money"
For example: He solicited donations from the Evans Foundation for a
Florida police group. He then made the contribution in his own name.
Then charged the police group more than the donation amount to rent
Miralago for an event; effectively soliciting a charity donation from
somebody else and putting the cash in his own pocket.
http://tinyurl.com/ha8w4zz
In another example, "In one case, from 2007, Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club
faced $120,000 in unpaid fines from the town of Palm Beach, Fla.,
resulting from a dispute over the height of a flagpole.
"In a settlement, Palm Beach agreed to waive those fines — if Trump’s
club made a $100,000 donation to a specific charity for veterans.
Instead, Trump sent a check from the Donald J. Trump Foundation, a
charity funded almost entirely by other people’s money, according to
tax records.""
http://tinyurl.com/htbkooe
He's also made other personal use of Foundation charity money. The
Foundation paid ten grand for a painting for Trump's Doral, Miami.
"So again, the charity owns it. That portrait must be used for some
charitable purpose. So the question was, where is this $10,000
portrait? . . . on TripAdvisor, you know, you can put - post pictures
of - the inside of your bathroom, the inside of the hotel lobby. There
were 385 pictures on the Doral site on TripAdvisor. She went through
all of them and found a picture of this missing Trump portrait, a
$10,000 portrait he bought with charity money."
http://www.npr.org/2016/09/28/495782978/journalist-says-trump-foundation-may-have-engaged-in-self-dealing
>>>> The both have poor judgment.
>>> Trump's "judgement is just fine, his net worth proves so.
>> Trump's judgment in politics is the worst of any presidential candidate
>> ever.
>Yes, he's done the unthinkable - pulled the covers off hte Might Oz for
>all to see!
Off his own self, he has. The truth of what a black hearted villian
he is now comes to light.
>> Trump's net worth is a minute fraction of what he claims.
>No it isn't.
>Citation?
Trump is worth less than half what he claims.
http://www.forbes.com/donald-trump/#52ca1236790b
"Donald Trump claims a net worth of more than $10 billion and an
income of $557 million. But he appears to get there only by
overvaluing properties and ignoring his expenses.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-money-net-worth-223662#ixzz4LaVaKvUa
You wanted citations, you got 'em!
>On 9/27/2016 11:04 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> On 9/27/2016 9:42 AM, Alosaurus wrote:
>>> On 9/27/2016 10:10 AM, Joe Cooper wrote:
>>>> Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are both poor choices.
>>> Nope, Trump is a GREAT choice!
>> No, they're both filth, but Trump is filthier.
>Observably not - no one has died on HIS watch from lack of security and
>focused military response.
a needledick bug fucker in charge of our nuclear arsenal.
>He never lied and blamed anything on a fictional you tube video.
>Trump also didn't help create ISIS.
with tens of billions in hundred dollar bills flown into Iraq on
pallets.
>And Trump didn't create an international money-laundering, influence
>peddling tax shelter.
sources of the money.
>You must be in love with the Illuminati's status quo uni-party shell
>game, Jonathan.
Turns out you're just another tin foil hat freak off his meds. My
bad.
>>>> They are both progressive.
>>> Reagan and Kennedy would have graded out similarly today
>> Not even close.
>Very much so:
>http://www.forwardprogressives.com/4-things-conservatives-hate-to-admit-about-ronald-reagan/
or his toothless immigration bill that invited in millions more.
>>>> They are both liars.
>>> All politicians lie.
>> Clinton and Trump lie much more than most politicians.
>Clinton yes, Trump no.
>He exaggerates, but his numbers on crime and trade were spot-on last night.
dropping in NYC almost a decade before stop and frisk and the
reduction rates didn't increase after it was implemented. Of all the
millions of random stops made under the program, less than 0.2% found
a gun and most of those were legal ones.
>>>> They are both corrupt.
>>> Only Clintoon has an international money laundeing, influence-peddling
>>> foundation - period.
>> No money laundering.
>Yes - money laundering:
>
>http://www.infowars.com/fbi-source-clinton-foundation-can-bring-down-entire-government/
rub together believes anything posted in that rag.
>The Clinton Foundation is a “massive spider web of connections
policy.
> and money
>laundering implicating hundreds of high-level people,” according to an
>anonymous insider who revealed why the FBI stopped short of indicting
>Hillary Clinton.
>> It *is* influence peddling.
>
>No duh!
way, through campaign contributions?
>> Trump has chiseled every jurisdiction in which he has ever done
>> business.
>
>"Every"?
>
>Citation?
Trump has freely admitted contributing to pols campaigns in exchange
for favors. He's also been found to have paid off a Florida Attorney
General to drop an investigation against him and did it with money
from his supposed "charitable" foundation. Seems the only charity the
Trump Foundation - which hasn't recieved a dime from Trump in eight
years - is Trump himself.
"Call it Trump’s ‘donategate.’
"But now, Trump’s $25,000 gift to Florida’s attorney general is
stirring a blizzard of controversy. Critics claim that the
contribution swayed AG Pam Bondi’s decision not to investigate
scandal-plagued, now-defunct Trump University.
"The story of how a Bondi PAC received a big check from Trump Tower
just days before the AG declined to probe Trump U, how the money
arrived as an illegal gift from, of all sources, Trump’s charitable
foundation, and the remarkable string of coincidences the Trump camp
claims led to an innocent error, forms one of the most intriguing,
ongoing subplots of the presidential campaign."
http://fortune.com/2016/09/12/trump-foundation-bondi-florida-ag/
"Bondi admitted to personally soliciting a contribution from Trump
days before dropping an investigation into Trump U. The money was
paid to her by the Trump Foundation, a supposed charity organization.
"Florida's attorney general personally solicited a political
contribution from Donald Trump around the same time her office
deliberated joining an investigation of alleged fraud at Trump
University and its affiliates
"The new disclosure from Attorney General Pam Bondi's spokesman to The
Associated Press on Monday provides additional details around the
unusual circumstances of Trump's $25,000 donation to Bondi.
"The money came from a Trump family foundation in apparent violation
of rules surrounding political activities by charities. A political
group backing Bondi's re-election, called And Justice for All,
reported receiving the check Sept. 17, 2013 — four days after Bondi's
office publicly announced she was considering joining a New York state
probe of Trump University's activities, according to a 2013 report in
the Orlando Sentinel.
http://tinyurl.com/gr8dfpr
>> He also cheats every contractor.
>"Every"?
>Citation?
"Donald Trump casts himself as a protector of workers and jobs, but a
USA TODAY NETWORK investigation found hundreds of people – carpenters,
dishwashers, painters, even his own lawyers – who say he didn’t pay
them for their work."
http://tinyurl.com/zt3e55p
Not counting the employee class actions for back wages which he lost
and had to pay up.
"Hundreds Of Donald Trump’s Employees Have Sued For Alleged Labor
Infractions" http://tinyurl.com/zvd2twe
"Offscreen, hundreds of current and former Trump Organization
employees have accused the company of being less than fair and more
than tough. Multiple lawsuits have targeted Trump's businesses over
the years with allegations ranging from anti-union intimidation to
hiring undocumented workers. In one case, the Trump Organization paid
$475,000 to settle a claim with nearly 300 Los Angeles golf club
employees in a class-action suit alleging unpaid wages and age
discrimination, among other offenses.
"In another instance, in 1999, the Trump Organization settled for an
unknown sum more than 15 years after unionized workers first accused
the company of employing undocumented Polish immigrants at a New York
demolition site. The workers allegedly "were paid $5 an hour or less
when they were paid at all," and "worked 12-hour shifts, seven days a
week with no overtime," "
http://tinyurl.com/zvd2twe
>Next!
Ok, how about this story of his Foundation being under scrutiny?
"Trump Foundation Faces Scrutiny Too, Regarding Political
Contribution"
"Donald Trump has long insisted he's uniquely qualified to fix a
political system corrupted by campaign contributions because he knows
that system inside and out.
""I give to everybody," Trump said in a Fox News debate last summer.
"When they call, I give. And you know what? When I need something from
them, two years later, three years later? I call them. They are there
for me.""
http://tinyurl.com/hls3kc6
"How Donald Trump retooled his charity to spend other people’s money"
For example: He solicited donations from the Evans Foundation for a
Florida police group. He then made the contribution in his own name.
Then charged the police group more than the donation amount to rent
Miralago for an event; effectively soliciting a charity donation from
somebody else and putting the cash in his own pocket.
http://tinyurl.com/ha8w4zz
In another example, "In one case, from 2007, Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club
faced $120,000 in unpaid fines from the town of Palm Beach, Fla.,
resulting from a dispute over the height of a flagpole.
"In a settlement, Palm Beach agreed to waive those fines — if Trump’s
club made a $100,000 donation to a specific charity for veterans.
Instead, Trump sent a check from the Donald J. Trump Foundation, a
charity funded almost entirely by other people’s money, according to
tax records.""
http://tinyurl.com/htbkooe
He's also made other personal use of Foundation charity money. The
Foundation paid ten grand for a painting for Trump's Doral, Miami.
"So again, the charity owns it. That portrait must be used for some
charitable purpose. So the question was, where is this $10,000
portrait? . . . on TripAdvisor, you know, you can put - post pictures
of - the inside of your bathroom, the inside of the hotel lobby. There
were 385 pictures on the Doral site on TripAdvisor. She went through
all of them and found a picture of this missing Trump portrait, a
$10,000 portrait he bought with charity money."
http://www.npr.org/2016/09/28/495782978/journalist-says-trump-foundation-may-have-engaged-in-self-dealing
>>>> The both have poor judgment.
>>> Trump's "judgement is just fine, his net worth proves so.
>> Trump's judgment in politics is the worst of any presidential candidate
>> ever.
>Yes, he's done the unthinkable - pulled the covers off hte Might Oz for
>all to see!
he is now comes to light.
>> Trump's net worth is a minute fraction of what he claims.
>No it isn't.
>Citation?
http://www.forbes.com/donald-trump/#52ca1236790b
"Donald Trump claims a net worth of more than $10 billion and an
income of $557 million. But he appears to get there only by
overvaluing properties and ignoring his expenses.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-money-net-worth-223662#ixzz4LaVaKvUa
>>>> They would both be destructive for America.
>>> You are a liar and traitor to this nation, asshole!
>> No. You are, spammy.
>No, YOU are t-RUDE-y.
What are you, 12?
>>> You are a liar and traitor to this nation, asshole!
>> No. You are, spammy.
>No, YOU are t-RUDE-y.
Alosaurus
Sep 28, 2016, 5:42:57 PM9/28/16
to
On 9/28/2016 3:16 PM, Wayne wrote:
> On 9/28/2016 1:37 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 10:42:12 -0600, Alosaurus <m...@bil.oil> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/27/2016 10:10 AM, Joe Cooper wrote:
>>>> Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are both poor choices.
>>>
>>> Nope, Trump is a GREAT choice!
>>
>> If you want to see the country destroyed, yes.
>>
> We don't know what Trump would do.
But we do know he has a superb family and business that by any objective
> On 9/28/2016 1:37 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 10:42:12 -0600, Alosaurus <m...@bil.oil> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/27/2016 10:10 AM, Joe Cooper wrote:
>>>> Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are both poor choices.
>>>
>>> Nope, Trump is a GREAT choice!
>>
>> If you want to see the country destroyed, yes.
>>
> We don't know what Trump would do.
measure he would do the most to protect.
Shrillary is just a common influence peddler, she'll do what George
Soros tells her to.
> But, that is an infinitely better
> choice that letting Hillary do what she has promised to do.
society" money compel her to do:
http://nypost.com/2016/08/15/why-is-team-hillary-taking-money-from-anti-israel-soros/
Modal Trigger Why is Team Hillary taking money from anti-Israel Soros?
Hillary Clinton Photo: Reuters
If you judge people by the company they keep, it’s fair to question
Hillary Clinton’s commitment to Israel.
That’s because one of her biggest money men, George Soros, was just
exposed as heavily funding groups dedicated to slurring Israel as
“racist and anti-democratic.”
Last weekend, Soros’ Open Society Foundations was hacked and its
confidential reports published on an anti-Jewish Web site with links to
Russian intelligence.
The disclosures show Soros gave $10 million to groups whose aims include
delegitimizing Israel, pressuring governments to sever ties with the
Jewish state and attempting to undermine its Jewish character.
One group, which got $2.7 million in Soros grants, accuses Israel of
“ethnic cleansing” and spread the since-discredited lie that Israeli
soldiers massacred Palestinian civilians at Jenin in 2002.
Soros has criticized Israel before. He even blamed Israeli policies for
the growth of anti-Semitism in Europe (and compared the United States to
Nazi Germany). And earlier reports found that his Open Society has given
tens of millions annually to groups that wage “political warfare”
against Israel.
But the documents show he now prefers to “maintain a low profile and
relative distance” from his Palestinian grants, “particularly on the
advocacy front.”
He’s also funded Ploughshares, which created the echo chamber that
spread the White House lies on its Iran nuke deal.
Soros spent $13 million this cycle alone to send Clinton to the White
House and Democrats to Congress. That includes $8 million to pro-Clinton
super PACs.
Will they, and Hillary in particular, repudiate his support and return
his money? Not likely. Rather, Clinton says, “We need people like George
Soros, who is fearless and willing to step up when it counts.”
Soros has certainly stepped up against Israel. And unless Hillary
Clinton publicly and clearly says otherwise, voters should assume she
stands with him.
Alosaurus
Sep 28, 2016, 5:43:37 PM9/28/16
to
On 9/28/2016 3:29 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 11:43:21 -0600, Alosaurus <m...@bil.oil> wrote:
>
> You wanted citations, you got 'em!
>
>
> Swill
> On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 11:43:21 -0600, Alosaurus <m...@bil.oil> wrote:
>
> You wanted citations, you got 'em!
>
>
Alosaurus
Sep 28, 2016, 5:44:35 PM9/28/16
to
On 9/28/2016 3:29 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> You wanted citations, you got 'em!
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/george-soros-the-hillary-democrats-billionaire-puppetmaster/
> You wanted citations, you got 'em!
fluence: A massive hack of socialist billionaire George Soros' Open
Society Foundations suggests that his various nonprofit organizations
are little more than fronts for his many political activities. His
growing closeness to Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton
should be a warning to all.
The hack by a group called DC Leaks, includes 2,576 files from various
Soros groups from 2008 to 2016. The DC Leaks website says the attack was
"launched by American hacktivists who respect and appreciate freedom of
speech, human rights and government of the people."
Apart from the ease with which the Soros group's computer system was
breached, what we're learning so far fills in the troubling details of
how Soros goes about his business. No doubt, in coming days, more
revelations will emerge as researchers comb through the thousands of
documents.
But what's emerged so far is eye-opening. In one of the purloined memos
from 2011, titled "Extreme Polarization and Breakdown in Civil
Discourse," a nonprofit Soros group proposes conducting opposition
research on a number of highly prominent American critics of radical
Islam, including Pamela Geller, Frank Gaffney and Robert Spencer. It
also targeted conservative activists and intellectuals David Horowitz,
Daniel Pipes, Cliff May and former Vice President Dick Cheney's
daughter, Liz Cheney. All of them are strongly pro-Israel and have
warned about the threat of radical Islam.
The memo suggests that the research was outsourced to the Center for
American Progress (CAP), a leftist think tank that has "received
millions of dollars in grants from Soros' groups," the Daily Caller's
Chuck Ross reports.
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Oh yes, CAP also happens to have been founded by John Podesta, Hillary'
Clinton's campaign chief. One of many close ties between Soros and Clinton.
Meanwhile, the Jerusalem Post notes that some of the hacked emails show
that the Soros Open Society Foundations' stated goal was "challenging
Israel's racist and anti-democratic policies," in part by "questioning
Israel's reputation as a democracy." This is an old Soros trick: He
spends money to delegitimize governments and others with whom he
disagrees. It's not about debate, and certainly not "open," as his
groups' names all suggest. It's political subterfuge in service of a
far-left agenda.
So remember the next time Hillary postures as a pro-Israel Democrat --
her campaign has ties to groups that actively undercut the Jewish state,
our only real ally in the Mideast.
But it goes well beyond just Israel. In yet another revelation from the
doc-dump, a memo called the "List of European Elections 2014 Projects"
details the elaborate efforts of Soros' well-funded global network to
manipulate election outcomes in Europe. The memo includes over 90 Soros
projects in Europe to influence election outcomes. Now, through Hillary,
he wants to do the same here. And Soros has the clout.
"Keep in mind that the relationship between Hillary Clinton and George
Soros is strong enough that he was able to dictate State Department
policy in Albania," wrote American Thinker founder Thomas Lifson this
week. "Who knows what the hack will reveal somewhere in its thousands of
documents?"
Who knows, indeed? For the record, the Center for Responsive Politics
says that so far in the 2016 political cycle, Soros is the sixth largest
giver, at over $12 million given to left-wing candidates.
And Fox News reports that Soros has given an estimated $9 million to
Hillary-favoring super PACS in 2015 and 2016, more than anyone else. But
he's not Hillary's only billionaire. Not by a long shot. "Within the
past year," Fox News reported earlier this month, "a total of 24
billionaires have donated more than $42.5 million to two Clinton
campaign arms and three allied super PACs."
So while Soros and other billionaires fund Clinton's campaign and other
left-wing causes, the Clinton Family Foundation focuses on extending the
Clintons' political clout both here and abroad by trading political
access for cash. The Clintons have together pulled in more than $240
million since leaving the White House "dead broke," as Hillary once put
it. Now the Clinton Foundation reportedly is under federal investigation
for its questionable fundraising practices.
"It's a way, effectively, to get around those campaign laws," noted
Peter Schweizer, author of the extensively documented book "Clinton
Cash," in a recent interview. "Hillary Clinton running for president in
2008, if you're a foreign oligarch, you can't give to her campaign, but
you can have Bill Clinton give a 20-minute speech for half a million
dollars, or you can make a $5 million donation to the Clinton
Foundation, and you've got access every bit as much as if you had raised
money for their political campaign. That's really what the Clintons have
done."
This week, George Soros' son, Alexander, showed off his father's clout,
dining with Hillary's vice presidential running mate, Tim Kaine. The
young Soros apparently has become his father's political surrogate,
meeting with Hillary at the recent Democratic Convention and now dining
with Kaine.
Money talks, the old saying goes. And who knows what demands money now
makes on the Democratic ticket.
Alosaurus
Sep 28, 2016, 5:45:14 PM9/28/16
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On 9/28/2016 3:29 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> You wanted citations, you got 'em!
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/hillary-clinton-george-soros-218494
> You wanted citations, you got 'em!
George Soros in December donated $6 million to the leading super PAC
supporting Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, marking the return
of the billionaire financier as among the biggest givers in all of
American politics.
The massive check brings to $8 million the Hungarian-born investor's
total 2015 giving to pro-Clinton groups.
The super PAC that received the $6-million check, Priorities USA Action,
raised $25 million in the second half of 2015, according to a report it
filed Sunday evening with the Federal Election Commission. The haul
brings the PAC’s tally to $41 million for the year, and left it with a
strong $36 million in the bank headed into the year.
Other major donors in the second half of the year included Hollywood
mogul Haim Saban, who combined with his wife Cheryl Saban to donate $3
million, as well as Herb Sandler and Donald Sussman, who donated $1.5
million each. The union-affiliated super PAC Working for Working
Americans also donated $1.5 million.
But the donation from Soros ― who in the first half of the year also
donated $1 million to Priorities USA and $1 million to another
Clinton-backing super PAC, American Bridge 21st Century — stands alone,
and not just because of the amount.
Soros is seen as a bellwether among rich Democrats. He is one of the few
liberals who has shown a willingness to drop eight-figures in an
election cycle, having donated more than $20 million in 2004 to groups
that tried to oust then-President George W. Bush. After the failure of
that effort, Soros dialed back his big-money political spending.
Despite intense courtship in 2012, Soros gave only $1 million to
Priorities USA, which at the time was dedicated to supporting President
Obama’s reelection. That year he told a close Clinton ally that he
regretted supporting Obama over her in the 2008 primaries and praised
Clinton for giving him an open door to discuss policy, according to
emails released last month by the State Department.
Priorities USA was among the many super PACs assiduously courting him
heading into 2016, and his huge check is sure to be interpreted as an
encouraging sign headed into an election cycle in which conservative
billionaires are expected to donate more than $1 billion to super PACs
and other unlimited money groups.
Alosaurus
Sep 28, 2016, 5:46:00 PM9/28/16
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On 9/28/2016 3:29 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> You wanted citations, you got 'em!
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/208839/soros-and-hillary-take-america-matthew-vadum
> You wanted citations, you got 'em!
Radical anti-American billionaire George Soros is going all-in for
Hillary Clinton's yet to be officially declared run for the presidency
in 2016.
And because Soros's wealthy leftist friends often follow his lead, a
tsunami of early money may be poised to swamp the former U.S. secretary
of state's zygotic campaign.
Soros is lending his name to the "Ready for Hillary" super PAC, giving
$25,000 to snag a co-chair post on the organization's National Finance
Committee. Soros's political director Michael Vachon confirmed Soros’s
involvement with the super PAC.
“George Soros is delighted to join more than one million Americans in
supporting Ready for Hillary,” Vachon said. “His support for Ready for
Hillary is an extension of his long held belief in the power of
grassroots organizing.” (Soros also gave $2,300 to Hillary Clinton's
2008 presidential campaign.)
After pledging for the umpteenth time to abandon electoral politics,
Soros keeps allowing himself to be pulled back in. A currency speculator
and convicted inside-trader, Soros is a practiced hand-wringer who
frequently tells gullible reporters he is getting out of electoral
politics altogether. This is his mantra between elections even though he
never actually follows through on the threat.
Soros is now spreading his wealth around to help a slew of Democrats in
future elections.
In addition to the "Ready for Hillary" donation, so far In 2013 Soros
has given: $1,500 to challenger Sean Eldridge (D-NY19); $2,600 to Sen.
Mark Udall (D-Colo.); $2,600 to Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.); $20,000 to
Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee; and $2,500 to Sen. Al
Franken's (D-Minn.) campaign, along with a separate $2,500 to the
political committee, Franken MVPs.
Soros has also given more than $100 million to groups that support
"immigrant rights," immigration amnesty, and open borders since 1997.
The idea is to flood America with reliably Democratic future voters who
will support Soros's extreme policy agenda.
He makes little effort to conceal his contempt for this nation. Soros
co-founded the ultra-secretive Democracy Alliance, a billionaires’ club
that wants to radically transform America, delivering the nation to
Greek-style socialist mayhem. He has said that European-style socialism
“is exactly what we need now” and cheers on American decline.
Soros openly favors the collapse of the greenback and the decline of
America in general. “The main obstacle to a stable and just world order
is the United States,” he has said.
Soros praises Red China effusively, saying the totalitarian nation that
cuts babies from unauthorized pregnancies from the wombs of their
mothers and runs over eminent domain resisters with steam-rollers, has
“a better-functioning government than the United States.”
Soros loves calling Republicans Nazis. Leading up to the 2004 election
Soros said that ousting George W. Bush was critically important because
of the administration’s “supremacist ideology.”
Soros said that rhetoric emanating from the Bush White House reminded
him of his childhood in Hungary during the Nazi occupation. “When I hear
Bush say, ‘You’re either with us or against us,’ it reminds me of the
Germans,” he said. “My experiences under Nazi and Soviet rule have
sensitized me.” In his 2006 book The Age of Fallibility, Soros likened
Bush’s campaign to “the Nazi and Communist propaganda machine.”
During World War II, Soros accompanied his guardian around Nazi-occupied
Hungary as he confiscated the property of Soros’s fellow Jews. Years
later he referred to that time as “probably the happiest year of my
life” and “a very happy-making, exhilarating experience.”
Soros has influence over Obama administration policy. He has visited the
Obama White House at least five times.
Like the protagonist in the classic Orson Welles movie Citizen Kane,
Soros can never have enough power. But unlike Charles Foster Kane, the
haughty, imperious fictional media mogul, Soros views himself as much
more than a mere leader. He told reporters, “It is a sort of disease
when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything,
but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out.”
Soros says he funds the fake media watchdog, Media Matters for America,
because it is "one of the few groups that attempts to hold Fox News
accountable for the false and misleading information they so often
broadcast. I am supporting Media Matters in an effort to more widely
publicize the challenge Fox News poses to civil and informed discourse
in our democracy."
In the 2012 election cycle Soros also gave $1 million to American Bridge
21st Century, a super PAC headed by David Brock, who founded Media
Matters for America. Soros also pumped $1 million into Senate Majority
PAC and $675,000 to House Majority PAC, two Democrat-affiliated committees.
Last year Soros gave $1 million to Priorities USA Action, the super PAC
whose infamous TV ad blamed the tragic cancer death of an
ex-steelworker's wife on Mitt Romney. Soros said he was “appalled by the
Romney campaign, which is openly soliciting the money of the rich to
starve the state of the money it needs to provide social services.”
Soros also bankrolled a documentary that celebrated left-wing terrorists
who plotted to napalm Republicans at the 2008 GOP convention in
Minnesota. The left-wing 2011 documentary Better This World depicts
David Guy McKay and Bradley Neil Crowder as idealistic activists who,
according to the official blurb, “set out to prove the strength of their
political convictions to themselves and their mentor.” In fact McKay and
Crowder were convicted of making instruments of death calculated to
inflict maximum pain and bodily harm on people whose political views
they disagreed with.
So, of course, it is only logical that Hillary Clinton, who presided
over the shameful Benghazi saga and coverup as secretary of state, would
be Soros's choice for the White House in 2016.
Mrs. Clinton is a hardcore Saul Alinsky devotee just like President
Obama. Soros is banking on her to destroy whatever remains of America at
the end of Obama's term of office.
Alosaurus
Sep 28, 2016, 5:59:00 PM9/28/16
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On 9/28/2016 3:29 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> The last thing we need is
> a needledick bug fucker in charge of our nuclear arsenal.
It's all right, you will NEVER be in charge of that or anything in this
> a needledick bug fucker in charge of our nuclear arsenal.
life, you bad-hipped cock-smoking queer.
>> He never lied and blamed anything on a fictional you tube video.
>
> He
>> Trump also didn't help create ISIS.
>
> No, George Bush, also a Republican, did that.
Reality break:
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/08/12/fact-check-obama-hillary-founders-isis-bet/
Even the left-stream media is now acknowledging that Donald Trump “has a
point” when he blasts Hilary and Obama for creating ISIS.
“Hillary Clinton is vulnerable. ISIS did gain strength during her time
as Secretary of State,” said ABC News correspondent Martha Raddatz.
Conservative talk show host Hugh Hewitt tried to give Mr. Trump an out.
“I know what you meant,” he suggested. “You meant that he [Obama]
created the vacuum, he lost the peace.”
“No,” Trump replied. “I meant, he’s the founder of ISIS. I do. He was
the most valuable player. I give him the most valuable player award. I
give her, too, by the way, Hillary Clinton.”
Trump is correct – and quite literally, so.
First, a document. Then some history.
Thanks to Judicial Watch, we now have an August 2012 defense
intelligence report on the civil war in Syria and the situation in Iraq
that openly states that the policy of the United States and its allies
was to support the Salafist opposition to Syrian president Bashar al-Assad.
That opposition, at the time spearheaded by Al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) and
the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI), soon morphed into the Islamic State of
Iraq and al-Sham, ISIS.
The report appears to have originated from U.S. Central Command
(CENTCOM) in Iraq, well before their intelligence product was tarnished
by political interference from top commanders in 2014 aimed at
diminishing the threat from ISIS.
Here’s what the report, originally stamped SECRET, actually says:
AQI, through the spokesman of the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI), Abu
Muhammad al- Adnani… is calling on the Sunnis in Iraq, especially the
tribes in the border regions (between Iraq and Syria), to wage war
against the Syrian regime…
Opposition forces are trying to control the eastern areas (Hasaka and
Der Zor) adjacent to the Western Iraqi provinces (Mosul and Anbar), in
addition to neighboring Turkish borders. Western countries, the Gulf
States and Turkey are supporting these efforts… [emphasis mine]
There is the possibility of establishing a declared or undeclared
Salafist principality in Eastern Syria (Hasak and Der Zor), and this is
exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition want…
It is no secret that the United States was supporting the Syrian
opposition in 2012 and even until very recently. In December 2012,
thanks in large measure to the active lobbying of Mrs. Clinton and U.S.
Ambassador to Syria Robert Ford, Obama declared that the United States
considered the opposition as “the legitimate representative of the
Syrian people.”
What was secret until the release of this August 2012 defense
intelligence report is that the United States knew that the Syrian
opposition was dominated by al Qaeda in Iraq and the Islamic State of
Iraq, groups that merged and morphed into what today we call ISIS.
So Donald Trump is literally correct. Obama and Hillary created ISIS.
They figure among the founding fathers of the world’s most brutal
terrorist organization. They deserve ISIS Most Valuable Player awards
for their efforts.
Some of America’s enemies, such as Ayatollah Khamenei of Iran, have also
accused the United States of creating ISIS – but as a tool for
encroaching on Iran’s efforts to dominate the Muslim world. In fact,
Obama and Hillary’s policies have simultaneously favored Iran and its
rise to regional dominance, standing aside as Iran filled the vacuum in
Iraq with its own militias and allowing Iranian troops and weapons to
flow onto battlefields in Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, Libya and beyond.
Other documents obtained by Judicial Watch show that the United States
was also complicit with arms shipments from Benghazi to the jihadi rebel
groups in Syria.
These particular shipments were distinct from the more publicized case
of al Entisar, a Libyan fishing vessel that arrived in Iskanderiyah,
Turkey, crammed with weapons in late August 2012.
The shipments described in this recently declassified document were sent
directly to small Syrian ports under rebel control and included RPG
grenade-launchers, sniper rifles, and ammunition for 125mm and 155mm
howitzers.
As I revealed two years ago, the U.S. backed arms shipments to ISIS and
its allies in Syria appear to have been run out of the White House by
then-counterterrorism advisor (and current CIA director) John Brennan.
Running the clandestine arms shipments outside official channels allowed
Obama and his allies – including Mrs. Clinton, who supported the arms
shipments – to withhold that information from Congress.
Deflecting attention from these arms shipments is precisely why Obama
and Hillary hatched their “blame-it-on-a-YouTube-video” narrative as the
cause of the Benghazi attacks. It was a deliberate deception to trick
the American people and cover-up their misdeeds.
Obama’s disastrous withdrawal of U.S. combat forces from Iraq in
December 2011 clearly enhanced the ability of AQI and ISI to seize
control of large portions of Iraqi territory and certainly contributed
to the birth of ISIS. It also opened the door for Iran to fill the vacuum.
But as the August 2012 defense intelligence report states, that was the
plan all along. Obama and Hillary wanted to create an ISIS-controlled
enclave in Syria, “in order to isolate the Syrian regime, which is
considered the strategic depth of the Shia expansion (Iraq and Iran).”
Donald Trump was right. Again.
>> And Trump didn't create an international money-laundering, influence
>> peddling tax shelter.
>
> Sure he has.
tax shelter:
http://nypost.com/2015/04/23/understanding-the-influence-peddling-of-clinton-inc/
Even Lawrence O’Donnell, a Democratic water-carrier of such sterling
reliability that he makes Gunga Din look like a slacker, had to concede
on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” that the Clinton campaign no longer has a
Schweizer problem. It has “a New York Times problem.”
It’s hard to boil down the Times’ deeply detailed account, but the broad
brushstrokes are as follows: A Canadian business wanted to sell its
uranium mines in Kazakhstan and the United States to a Russian state-run
— i.e., Vladimir Putin-run — firm.
I know what you’re thinking: What could go wrong?
In order to grease the skids — allegedly, of course — Canadian uranium
moguls Frank Giustra and Ian Telfer gave millions to the Clinton
Foundation and arranged for a $500,000 speech by Bill Clinton (whose
speaking fees mysteriously skyrocketed after his wife became secretary
of state), bankrolled by a Russian investment bank with interests in the
deal.
While in Kazakhstan, former President Clinton agreed to hold a joint
press conference with president-for-life Nursultan A. Nazarbayev. (He’s
been getting “re-elected” with just shy of 100 percent of the vote since
1989.)
Clinton generously praised Kazakhstan’s human-rights record, a
propaganda gift of the first order. Days later, Giustra’s deal was
approved by the Kazakh government.
Also, when she became secretary of state, Hillary Clinton promised to
disclose all such donations to the Clinton Foundation and submit her
husband’s foreign speeches for White House review. None of that happened.
There are other allegations in this story and, more important, there are
many more such stories to come (according to several people who’ve read
the book).
So again: How should we think about all of this? One place not to look
for answers is the Clinton leviathan and its sundry remoras.
For starters, no matter what the allegation, the Clinton response is
always to shoot the messengers and point to the alleged misdeeds of
somebody else.
They have other familiar tactics as well. With the Clintons, the
freshest evidence is instantly “old news.”
There’s also the long and storied Clinton fondness for lying. For
instance, nearly every claim in Hillary’s press conference about her
stealth server has been debunked, starting with her insistence she
followed all of the rules.
In short, simply taking her word alone would be preposterous,
particularly for journalists who aren’t supposed to take any
politician’s word for anything, even ones who don’t suspiciously delete
thousands of “personal” e-mails.
Still, I suspect that the conclusion that this was all simply about
payoffs probably misses the mark. Sure, the Clintons like money. That’s
obvious. But the money is incidental to what’s really behind all of
this: a mixture of entitlement and machine politics.
The Clintons are like the Tudors of the Ozarks. They believe they are
royalty, but they also understand that even monarchs need friends.
The Clinton Foundation is the perfect vehicle for their ambition. Like
the medieval Catholic Church, it blurs the lines between ideals and
interests.
On the one hand, it does yeoman’s work in the Church of Liberal
Dogoodery, but it also provides a conduit for business interests,
foreign governments, academics, activists and journalists to gain access
to the imperial court-in-waiting.
Even if Hillary hadn’t conveniently wiped her servers clean, I suspect
there wouldn’t be a lot of e-mails about quid-pro-quos. Such
transactions aren’t made in the language of the bazaar, but in the
lingua franca of loyalty, friendship and noblesse oblige.
Yes, Clinton Inc. needs money, but the money is likely seen more as
tribute than bribery, a bit of coin offered up as a sign of loyalty to
the coming Ozarkian Restoration — a restoration that may just have to
wait for Chelsea.
>> You must be in love with the Illuminati's status quo uni-party shell
>> game, Jonathan.
>
> "Illuminati"? Damn.
http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/gingrich-admits-on-fox-that-illuminati-run-the-establishment/62252947/
Gingrich admits on Fox that Illuminati run the establishmentPosted on
3/4/16 at 7:17 am
95
Some of the conspiracy haters are not going to like this.
LINK
When asked why, Gingrich responded, “Well because he’s an outsider, he’s
not them, he’s not part of the club, he’s uncontrollable, he hasn’t been
through the initiation rites, he didn’t belong to the secret society.”
>>>>> They are both progressive.
>>>> Reagan and Kennedy would have graded out similarly today
>>> Not even close.
>> Very much so:
>> http://www.forwardprogressives.com/4-things-conservatives-hate-to-admit-about-ronald-reagan/
>
> This article doesn't list Reagan's
>>>>> They are both liars.
>>>> All politicians lie.
>>> Clinton and Trump lie much more than most politicians.
>> Clinton yes, Trump no.
>> He exaggerates, but his numbers on crime and trade were spot-on last night.
>
> No, they weren't. They were dead wrong.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-is-right-about-stop-and-frisk-1475018152
Trump Is Right About ‘Stop and Frisk’
It’s constitutional, as the Republican correctly described. Lester Holt
should apologize.
http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/09/28/giuliani-trump-right-about-stop-and-frisk
One of the strategies that helped bring about an 85% reduction in crime
in New York City between 1994 and 2013 was the careful and appropriate
use of “stop and frisk.” This practice dramatically reduced the number
of guns, knives and other dangerous weapons, as well as illicit drugs,
in the city.
>>>>> They are both corrupt.
>>>> Only Clintoon has an international money laundeing, influence-peddling
>>>> foundation - period.
>>> No money laundering.
>
>> Yes - money laundering:
>>
>> http://www.infowars.com/fbi-source-clinton-foundation-can-bring-down-entire-government/
>
> Don't cite infowars in here.
The Clinton Foundation is a “massive spider web of connections and money
laundering implicating hundreds of high-level people,” according to an
anonymous insider who revealed why the FBI stopped short of indicting
Hillary Clinton.
Before FBI Director James Comey announced the FBI wouldn’t recommend
anonymous insider who revealed why the FBI stopped short of indicting
Hillary Clinton.
pressing charges against Clinton, an insider with “intimate knowledge of
the inner workings of the Clinton case” hosted an little-publicized AMA
session on 4Chan, and the statements he made on July 2 corroborate with
later developments of the scandal.
“There is enough for her and the entire government to be brought down,”
he revealed. “People do not realize how enormous this whole situation
actually is.”
“Whether she will be [indicted] or not depends on how much info others
involved gets out, and there are a lot of people involved.”
Since then, both the FBI and the DOJ declined to press charges against
Clinton, and other sources revealed the Clinton Foundation is now under
scrutiny.
“The problem is with the Clinton Foundation as I mentioned, which you
should just imagine as a massive spider web of connections and money
laundering implicating hundreds of high-level people,” the source said.
“Though I do not have a high opinion of Hillary, she is just a piece –
albeit a big piece – of this massive sh*tstorm.”
Those implicated extends to the Justice Dept.
“The DOJ is most likely looking to save itself,” he continued. “Find
everyone involved in the Clinton Foundation, from its donors to its
Board of Directors, and imagine they are all implicated.”
This would explain why Bill Clinton forced himself on Attorney General
Loretta Lynch’s plane at the Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport
last week; Clinton insider Larry Nichols said blackmail was likely involved.
“Bill Clinton met with Lynch, and he was there to assure her that when
Hillary gets to be president she’ll be able to keep her job,” said
Nichols on the Alex Jones Show Friday. “I would imagine he gave Lynch a
slip of paper that had on it a couple of things about the career
prosecutors that are working the case. What was on that? The things they
have on them. The drugs, women, men, whatever.”
The source indicated the Clinton Foundation is likely a nexus of
blackmail material keeping everyone in D.C. in line behind the Clintons
– even those with tremendous influence.
“The real point of interest is the Clinton Foundation, not the email
server,” he said. “We received the server from Benghazi, then from the
server we found data on the Clinton Foundation.”
“Then we realized the situation is much worse than previously thought.”
The server was in Benghazi? Was that one of the reasons why the embassy
was attacked, to destroy evidence on the Clinton Foundation?
Additionally, the source said the investigation took so long because FBI
Director James Comey didn’t want to face the “Clinton Machine” and the
“rest of Washington D.C.”
“…This case would explode into a million other cases if fully brought to
light, and then we would be one agency competing against the entire
government and a hoard of other interests,” he continued. “It is a very
tense and uncomfortable position.”
>> The Clinton Foundation is a “massive spider web of connections
>
> Connections that will come in very handy in the conduct of foreign
> policy.
9-11, you miserable traitor to America.
>> and money
>> laundering implicating hundreds of high-level people,” according to an
>> anonymous insider who revealed why the FBI stopped short of indicting
>> Hillary Clinton.
>
> In your feverish mind, perhaps.
“The real point of interest is the Clinton Foundation, not the email
server,” he said. “We received the server from Benghazi, then from the
server we found data on the Clinton Foundation.”
“Then we realized the situation is much worse than previously thought.”
The server was in Benghazi? Was that one of the reasons why the embassy
was attacked, to destroy evidence on the Clinton Foundation?
Additionally, the source said the investigation took so long because FBI
Director James Comey didn’t want to face the “Clinton Machine” and the
“rest of Washington D.C.”
>>> It *is* influence peddling.
>>
>> No duh!
>
> So you agree that influence peddling should be done the old fashioned
> way, through campaign contributions?
be halted?
>>> Trump has chiseled every jurisdiction in which he has ever done
>>> business.
>>
>> "Every"?
>>
>> Citation?
>
> Not every. But several
> Trump has freely admitted contributing to pols campaigns in exchange
> for favors.
Now he's going to take his intimate knowledge of how Washington works
and rip its guts out.
Enjoy, asshole.
Alosaurus
Sep 28, 2016, 5:59:33 PM9/28/16
to
On 9/28/2016 3:29 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> No, YOU are t-RUDE-y.
> What are you, 12?
>
> Swill
How'd you like your spine broken in 2?
> What are you, 12?
>
> Swill
Rudy Canoza
Sep 28, 2016, 6:43:49 PM9/28/16
to
it at your behest, either.
Governor Swill
Sep 28, 2016, 6:56:07 PM9/28/16
to
On Tue, 27 Sep Alosaurus wrote:
>On 9/27/2016 12:51 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>On 9/27/2016 12:51 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>Alosaurus wrote:
>>> Only Clintoon has an international money laundeing, influence-peddling
>>> foundation - period.
>> So you haven't heard about the Trump Foundation
>Trump was never Secretary of State nor a US Senator.
>Klintoon SELLS access to herself.
You have a problem with pols selling access? Oh, that's right, only if
>>> Only Clintoon has an international money laundeing, influence-peddling
>>> foundation - period.
>> So you haven't heard about the Trump Foundation
>Trump was never Secretary of State nor a US Senator.
>Klintoon SELLS access to herself.
they're Republicans who sell it for campaign contributions. Gotcha.
>She also is in the bag to the Saudis and Bahrain.
Senator from New York, opposed the deal. It was Chuck Shumer, NY
senior Senator, who blew the whistle on Bush's dealings with Dubai.
Bill Clinton, advised Dubai to submit to an extended application
process thus giving time for public opposition to be raised.
"Those who expressed opposition to the deal included: The New York
Times, Michael Savage, Lindsey Graham, The New Republic, The John
Birch Society, Sean Hannity, Lou Dobbs,[17] Laura Ingraham; Bill Frist
and Hillary Clinton,[18] prominent politicians from two different
parties; Bob Menendez, John Gibson,[19] Jon Corzine, and Peter
King.[20] Senator Barack Obama stated his opposition to the deal.[21]
So did Senators Carl Levin[22] and John Kerry."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubai_Ports_World_controversy#Opposition
Tell us again who's selling America to the Arabs?
>You know these things of course, but a true denier must pretend they do
>not exist.
whoever he wishes?
The way you're denying he's an even bigger liar than Clinton?
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/
And all his lying is ok with you even though he's endorsed for the
Presidency by Russia, North Korea, and ISIS?
Alosaurus
Sep 28, 2016, 6:58:18 PM9/28/16
to
On 9/28/2016 4:43 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
> On 9/28/2016 2:59 PM, Alosaurus wrote:
>> On 9/28/2016 3:29 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>> No, YOU are t-RUDE-y.
>>> What are you, 12?
>>>
>>> Swill
>>
>> How'd you like your spine broken in 2?
>
> You won't
Die soon, Jonathan.
> On 9/28/2016 2:59 PM, Alosaurus wrote:
>> On 9/28/2016 3:29 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>> No, YOU are t-RUDE-y.
>>> What are you, 12?
>>>
>>> Swill
>>
>> How'd you like your spine broken in 2?
>
> You won't
Alosaurus
Sep 28, 2016, 7:00:04 PM9/28/16
to
On 9/28/2016 4:56 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Sep Alosaurus wrote:
>
>> On 9/27/2016 12:51 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>> Alosaurus wrote:
>>>> Only Clintoon has an international money laundeing, influence-peddling
>>>> foundation - period.
>>> So you haven't heard about the Trump Foundation
>> Trump was never Secretary of State nor a US Senator.
>> Klintoon SELLS access to herself.
>
> You have a problem with
> On Tue, 27 Sep Alosaurus wrote:
>
>> On 9/27/2016 12:51 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>> Alosaurus wrote:
>>>> Only Clintoon has an international money laundeing, influence-peddling
>>>> foundation - period.
>>> So you haven't heard about the Trump Foundation
>> Trump was never Secretary of State nor a US Senator.
>> Klintoon SELLS access to herself.
>
> You have a problem with
Alosaurus
Sep 28, 2016, 7:00:28 PM9/28/16
to
On 9/28/2016 4:56 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> When Bush tried to sell
>
>
Alosaurus
Sep 28, 2016, 7:00:57 PM9/28/16
to
On 9/28/2016 4:56 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> You have a problem with
>
>
Alosaurus
Sep 28, 2016, 7:02:22 PM9/28/16
to
On 9/28/2016 4:56 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> Oh, that's right, only if
Alosaurus
Sep 28, 2016, 7:06:22 PM9/28/16
to
On 9/28/2016 4:56 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> When Bush tried
Siri Cruise
Sep 28, 2016, 7:12:45 PM9/28/16
to
In article <nshbur$95t$1...@dont-email.me>, Wayne <mygarb...@verizon.net>
wrote:
> We don't know what Trump would do.
I am convinced by such a hearty endorsement.
wrote:
> We don't know what Trump would do.
Siri Cruise
Sep 28, 2016, 7:41:18 PM9/28/16
to
Alosaurus
Sep 28, 2016, 7:46:34 PM9/28/16
to
On 9/28/2016 5:12 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> In article <nshbur$95t$1...@dont-email.me>, Wayne <mygarb...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>> We don't know what Trump would do.
>
> I am convinced by such a hearty endorsement.
>
You don't know what Shrillary would do either, but we ALL know who's
> In article <nshbur$95t$1...@dont-email.me>, Wayne <mygarb...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>> We don't know what Trump would do.
>
> I am convinced by such a hearty endorsement.
>
paying her off:
Alosaurus
Sep 28, 2016, 7:49:11 PM9/28/16
to
On 9/28/2016 5:41 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> In article <nshidd$6ll$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Alosaurus <m...@bil.oil> wrote:
>
> Boo!
>
Meth call?
> In article <nshidd$6ll$1...@news.mixmin.net>, Alosaurus <m...@bil.oil> wrote:
>
> Boo!
>
Governor Swill
Sep 28, 2016, 10:38:22 PM9/28/16
to
On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 14:16:18 -0700, Wayne <mygarb...@verizon.net>
wrote:
Hillary has promised to contain debt growth. Invest in infrastructure
and education. Create jobs by holding down taxes on the vast majority
of taxpayers but increasing them on the top 1% to pay for worker
education programs.
This will destroy the country?
Swill
--
#imwithher #strongertogether
I mean, if you took Sarah Palin’s head and jammed it
on Trump’s body, would it make any more sense?
wrote:
and education. Create jobs by holding down taxes on the vast majority
of taxpayers but increasing them on the top 1% to pay for worker
education programs.
This will destroy the country?
Swill
--
#imwithher #strongertogether
I mean, if you took Sarah Palin’s head and jammed it
on Trump’s body, would it make any more sense?
PaxPerPoten
Sep 28, 2016, 11:27:01 PM9/28/16
to
him to meet on the street. No way!
>
--
It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard
the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster
Rudy Canoza
Sep 28, 2016, 11:56:01 PM9/28/16
to
On 9/28/2016 8:27 PM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
> On 9/28/2016 5:43 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> On 9/28/2016 2:59 PM, Alosaurus wrote:
>>> On 9/28/2016 3:29 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>> No, YOU are t-RUDE-y.
>>>> What are you, 12?
>>>>
>>>> Swill
>>>
>>> How'd you like your spine broken in 2?
>>
>> You won't do that. You couldn't, and you don't know anyone who would do
>> it at your behest, either.
>
> No way to do that...
Sure there is...if you're up to it. You're not. spammy isn't. Not one
> On 9/28/2016 5:43 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> On 9/28/2016 2:59 PM, Alosaurus wrote:
>>> On 9/28/2016 3:29 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>> No, YOU are t-RUDE-y.
>>>> What are you, 12?
>>>>
>>>> Swill
>>>
>>> How'd you like your spine broken in 2?
>>
>> You won't do that. You couldn't, and you don't know anyone who would do
>> it at your behest, either.
>
> No way to do that...
of you tuff-boyz is up to it.
PaxPerPoten
Sep 29, 2016, 12:34:19 AM9/29/16
to
drop dead from a fatal heart attack anyway. Isn't it enough that I have
been in your putor and logged your ISP and all legally because you
threatened my life?
DCI
Sep 29, 2016, 3:34:01 AM9/29/16
to
On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 9:10:56 AM UTC-7, Joe Cooper wrote:
> As we wind down to the final weeks before the election, a large
> percentage of voters remain undecided on whether to vote for Donald Trump
> or Hillary Clinton or someone else. Unlike previous elections, many
> undecided voters are educated, savvy conservatives who have not committed
> to Donald Trump, a Wall Street Journal analysis reported. Like me, many
> of these voters are repelled by both candidates.
>
CUT -
No matter which way you call it, Bill, not Hillary, will be the president who will double the Clinton shenanigans in the Oval Office.
DCI
> As we wind down to the final weeks before the election, a large
> percentage of voters remain undecided on whether to vote for Donald Trump
> or Hillary Clinton or someone else. Unlike previous elections, many
> undecided voters are educated, savvy conservatives who have not committed
> to Donald Trump, a Wall Street Journal analysis reported. Like me, many
> of these voters are repelled by both candidates.
>
CUT -
No matter which way you call it, Bill, not Hillary, will be the president who will double the Clinton shenanigans in the Oval Office.
DCI
Wayne
Sep 29, 2016, 10:10:54 AM9/29/16
to
On 9/28/2016 7:38 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 14:16:18 -0700, Wayne <mygarb...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On 9/28/2016 1:37 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>> On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 10:42:12 -0600, Alosaurus <m...@bil.oil> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/27/2016 10:10 AM, Joe Cooper wrote:
>>>>> Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are both poor choices.
>>>>
>>>> Nope, Trump is a GREAT choice!
>>>
>>> If you want to see the country destroyed, yes.
>>>
>> We don't know what Trump would do. But, that is an infinitely better
>> choice that letting Hillary do what she has promised to do.
>
> Hillary has promised to contain debt growth. Invest in infrastructure
> and education. Create jobs by holding down taxes on the vast majority
> of taxpayers but increasing them on the top 1% to pay for worker
> education programs.
>
> This will destroy the country?
>
Mrs. B. J. has had over 30 years to develop the campaign trail patter.
> On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 14:16:18 -0700, Wayne <mygarb...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On 9/28/2016 1:37 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>> On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 10:42:12 -0600, Alosaurus <m...@bil.oil> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/27/2016 10:10 AM, Joe Cooper wrote:
>>>>> Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are both poor choices.
>>>>
>>>> Nope, Trump is a GREAT choice!
>>>
>>> If you want to see the country destroyed, yes.
>>>
>> We don't know what Trump would do. But, that is an infinitely better
>> choice that letting Hillary do what she has promised to do.
>
> Hillary has promised to contain debt growth. Invest in infrastructure
> and education. Create jobs by holding down taxes on the vast majority
> of taxpayers but increasing them on the top 1% to pay for worker
> education programs.
>
> This will destroy the country?
>
What she says is totally different that what she does, has done, or is
planning to do.
You want an uncontrollable "I know what you need more than you do"
president with a god complex, then vote for the bitch. And you'll get
exactly what you deserve.
Rudy Canoza
Sep 29, 2016, 10:32:29 AM9/29/16
to
On 9/28/2016 9:34 PM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
> On 9/28/2016 10:56 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> On 9/28/2016 8:27 PM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
>>> On 9/28/2016 5:43 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>> On 9/28/2016 2:59 PM, Alosaurus wrote:
>>>>> On 9/28/2016 3:29 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>> No, YOU are t-RUDE-y.
>>>>>> What are you, 12?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Swill
>>>>>
>>>>> How'd you like your spine broken in 2?
>>>>
>>>> You won't do that. You couldn't, and you don't know anyone who
>>>> would do
>>>> it at your behest, either.
>>>
>>> No way to do that...
>>
>> Sure there is...if you're up to it. You're not. spammy isn't. Not one
>> of you tuff-boyz is up to it.
>
> I don't do street shit and
You're not up to doing anything like that to me. No one you know is,
> On 9/28/2016 10:56 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> On 9/28/2016 8:27 PM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
>>> On 9/28/2016 5:43 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>> On 9/28/2016 2:59 PM, Alosaurus wrote:
>>>>> On 9/28/2016 3:29 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>> No, YOU are t-RUDE-y.
>>>>>> What are you, 12?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Swill
>>>>>
>>>>> How'd you like your spine broken in 2?
>>>>
>>>> You won't do that. You couldn't, and you don't know anyone who
>>>> would do
>>>> it at your behest, either.
>>>
>>> No way to do that...
>>
>> Sure there is...if you're up to it. You're not. spammy isn't. Not one
>> of you tuff-boyz is up to it.
>
> I don't do street shit and
either.
Alosaurus
Sep 29, 2016, 12:12:07 PM9/29/16
to
peddling as.
Alosaurus
Sep 29, 2016, 12:15:05 PM9/29/16
to
Alosaurus
Sep 29, 2016, 12:15:21 PM9/29/16
to
On 9/29/2016 8:32 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
> You're not up to doing anything like that to me.
But I am.
> You're not up to doing anything like that to me.
Rudy Canoza
Sep 29, 2016, 3:51:38 PM9/29/16
to
>> You won't do that. You couldn't, and you don't know anyone who would do
>> it at your behest, either.
>
> Die soon, Jonathan.
>> it at your behest, either.
>
Not my name, and I won't die soon. You certainly have no means to
hasten my death. You admit it. You're a helpless do-nothing cunt.
Alosaurus
Sep 29, 2016, 3:54:55 PM9/29/16
to
On 9/29/2016 1:51 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
> On 9/28/2016 3:58 PM, Alosaurus wrote:
>> On 9/28/2016 4:43 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>> On 9/28/2016 2:59 PM, Alosaurus wrote:
>>>> On 9/28/2016 3:29 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>> No, YOU are t-RUDE-y.
>>>>> What are you, 12?
>>>>>
>>>>> Swill
>>>>
>>>> How'd you like your spine broken in 2?
>>>
>>> You won't do that. You couldn't, and you don't know anyone who would do
>>> it at your behest, either.
>>
>> Die soon, Jonathan.
>
> Not my name,
Keep denying, it's all you have left.
> On 9/28/2016 3:58 PM, Alosaurus wrote:
>> On 9/28/2016 4:43 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>> On 9/28/2016 2:59 PM, Alosaurus wrote:
>>>> On 9/28/2016 3:29 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>> No, YOU are t-RUDE-y.
>>>>> What are you, 12?
>>>>>
>>>>> Swill
>>>>
>>>> How'd you like your spine broken in 2?
>>>
>>> You won't do that. You couldn't, and you don't know anyone who would do
>>> it at your behest, either.
>>
>> Die soon, Jonathan.
>
> Not my name,
Governor Swill
Sep 29, 2016, 4:15:39 PM9/29/16
to
On Thu, 29 Sep Wayne wrote:
>On 9/28/2016 7:38 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>On 9/28/2016 7:38 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 Sep Wayne wrote:
>>> On 9/28/2016 1:37 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>> On 9/28/2016 1:37 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 27 Sep Alosaurus wrote:
>>>>> On 9/27/2016 10:10 AM, Joe Cooper wrote:
>>>>>> Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are both poor choices.
>>>>> Nope, Trump is a GREAT choice!
>>>> If you want to see the country destroyed, yes.
>>> We don't know what Trump would do. But, that is an infinitely better
>>> choice that letting Hillary do what she has promised to do.
>> Hillary has promised to contain debt growth. Invest in infrastructure
>> and education. Create jobs by holding down taxes on the vast majority
>> of taxpayers but increasing them on the top 1% to pay for worker
>> education programs.
>> This will destroy the country?
>Mrs. B. J. has had over 30 years to develop the campaign trail patter.
Mrs BJ also helped Mr BJ govern this country through one of the best
>>>>> On 9/27/2016 10:10 AM, Joe Cooper wrote:
>>>>>> Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are both poor choices.
>>>>> Nope, Trump is a GREAT choice!
>>>> If you want to see the country destroyed, yes.
>>> We don't know what Trump would do. But, that is an infinitely better
>>> choice that letting Hillary do what she has promised to do.
>> Hillary has promised to contain debt growth. Invest in infrastructure
>> and education. Create jobs by holding down taxes on the vast majority
>> of taxpayers but increasing them on the top 1% to pay for worker
>> education programs.
>> This will destroy the country?
>Mrs. B. J. has had over 30 years to develop the campaign trail patter.
decades in American history. With the possible exception of the
fifties, I can't think of a single decade in which Americans had more
to be proud of than the nineties. Considering Trump's terrible track
record in business, I'll give Hillary a shot at governing.
Trump's tax plan alone will add another 10T to the debt. Couple that
with his promises of increased spending and you have a recipe for
massive deficits and debt in true Republican fashion. Of course, that
doesn't include the massive job losses we'll get when he implements
his tariff programs. Remember what a smashing success Smoot Hawley
was at ending the Great Depression? NOT.
>What she says is totally different that what she does, has done, or is
>planning to do.
Amerikkka into a commie country?
>You want an uncontrollable "I know what you need more than you do"
>president with a god complex, then vote for the bitch. And you'll get
>exactly what you deserve.
want a President to do.
Work with our allies through diplomatic channels to resolve global
problems rather than being a bully on the playground.
Containing debt while increasing investments that will help the
working and middle class such as reducing education costs and building
infrastructure.
Investing in renewables and nuclear energy to help reduce our
dependence on imported oil.
Introducing comprehensive immigration reform that recognizes our need
for cheap labor while reducing imports of skilled labor by investing
in education for the native born.
Increasing taxes on the wealthy and reducing unfair tax breaks for
corporations shipping jobs abroad and for individuals and corporations
that profit not from making things, but by manipulating money.
Supporting unions and worker's rights.
Support veterans and build and maintain a 21st century military
designed to cope with 21st century threats.
Combat terrorism not just by defeating ISIS but by defeating militant
religious extremism.
Support for LGBT rights.
Criminal justice reform to get minor and non violent offenders out of
the prisons and reduce, if not eliminate, the prison-for-profit
system.
Taking on climate change and improving the way we deal with our
environment to keep it clean and safe.
Her plans for rural communities include creation of a national
infrastructure bank (a Republican concept) to improve rural
transportation and broadband access and grow the rural economy by
expanding access to capital. She also wants to expand the New Markets
Tax Credit that will encourage investments to prevent communities from
spiraling downward after a major economic shift or plant closing.
That last bit is vital. Change is always inevitable and as industries
change patterns and distribution, we need to ensure help is available
for retraining of workers and incentivize new industries to replace
old ones.
Not one word in here about hate or exclusion or blaming "others" for
our ills. America always works best when we work together. Trump
divides us into "approved" and "unapproved" demographics.
Like me, Hillary doesn't care about your color, religion or lifestyle,
she only cares that you have and can grasp opportunity.
Trump is an asshole bully who thinks everybody who isn't white with
testicles should be subservient to those who are white with testicles.
Yeah, #imwithher and if you don't like it, move to Russia with Trump
seeing as how you both seem to think it's such a great place.
Swill
--
#imwithher #strongertogether
I mean, if you took Sarah Palin’s head and jammed it
on Trump’s body, would it make any more sense?
2016
"Make America Hate Again".
Allah's Cock Bar
Sep 29, 2016, 5:25:28 PM9/29/16
to
On 9/29/2016 2:15 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>> This will destroy the country?
>> Mrs. B. J. has had over 30 years to develop the campaign trail patter.
>
> Mrs BJ also helped Mr BJ govern this country
Oh dear oh dear, that's actually ILLEGAL you know!
>>> This will destroy the country?
>> Mrs. B. J. has had over 30 years to develop the campaign trail patter.
>
> Mrs BJ also helped Mr BJ govern this country
But then lawful behavior and the Klintoons are always mutually exclusive.
Derek
Sep 29, 2016, 7:18:45 PM9/29/16
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On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 12:51:37 -0700, Rudy Canoza <c...@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>On 9/28/2016 3:58 PM, Alosaurus wrote:
>> On 9/28/2016 4:43 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>> On 9/28/2016 2:59 PM, Alosaurus wrote:
>>>> On 9/28/2016 3:29 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>> No, YOU are t-RUDE-y.
>>>>> What are you, 12?
>>>>>
>>>>> Swill
>>>>
>>>> How'd you like your spine broken in 2?
>>>
>>> You won't do that. You couldn't, and you don't know anyone who would do
>>> it at your behest, either.
>>
>> Die soon, Jonathan.
>
>Not my name,
Yes it is. You've been denying that your real identity is Jonathan Ball over
>On 9/28/2016 3:58 PM, Alosaurus wrote:
>> On 9/28/2016 4:43 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>> On 9/28/2016 2:59 PM, Alosaurus wrote:
>>>> On 9/28/2016 3:29 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>> No, YOU are t-RUDE-y.
>>>>> What are you, 12?
>>>>>
>>>>> Swill
>>>>
>>>> How'd you like your spine broken in 2?
>>>
>>> You won't do that. You couldn't, and you don't know anyone who would do
>>> it at your behest, either.
>>
>> Die soon, Jonathan.
>
>Not my name,
in alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, and just about everywhere, so here's the
proof.
11 years ago, while posting under this current nym, Rudy Canoza, we had a
discussion about a revised marketing claim concerning grass-fed beef from
USDA. You claimed that you had written to and received a reply from William T.
Sessions, Associate Deputy Administrator, Livestock and Seed Program. Here
below is the post you wrote using the nym Rudy Canoza containing your
correspondence with William Sessions.
[start- Jon to me]
Eat shit and bark at the moon, Dreck - the proposed
standard has NOT been adopted. I wrote to William
Sessions, the associate deputy administrator (how's
that for a title) at the Livestock and Seed Program at
USDA that is in charge of writing the standard for the
"meat marketing claims"; his name, title and e-mail
address are at a web page whose URL I gave yesterday,
http://www.fass.org/fasstrack/news_item.asp?news_id=1152
Here's his reply:
From: "Sessions, William" <William....@usda.gov>
To: <jonball@[...]>
Mr. Ball: Thanks for your message. The marketing claim
standards are still under review by USDA. Accordingly, the
standards have not been published in a final form for use. I
hope this information is helpful.
Please let me know if further information is needed.
Thanks,
William T. Sessions
Associate Deputy Administrator
Livestock and Seed Program
-----Original Message-----
From: jonball@[...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:38 AM
To: Sessions, William
Subject: 2003 proposed standards for meat marketing claims
I have read about the proposed standards, and I've seen
many of the public comments sent to USDA. I cannot find
anything to indicate if the standards were adopted.
Were the standards as proposed in 2003 adopted?
Thanks in advance.
Jonathan Ball
Pasadena, CA
___________________________________________________
Jonathan Ball aka Rudy Canoza 08 Sep 2005 http://bit.ly/2cYknsh
[end]
Jonathan Ball. Pasadena, CA. Priceless! That email, posted from Jonathan Ball,
you, and the return email sent to Jonathan Ball proves beyond all doubt that
you are Jonathan Ball. Of course, you don't live in Pasadena since moving to
5327 Shepard Ave Sacramento, CA 95819-1731
Here's the proof Jonathan D Ball http://bit.ly/1LFy9t8
>and I won't die soon.
go around goading people if I was as small and as puny as you are, liar Jon.
You ought to be very careful.
>You certainly have no means to hasten my death.
You'll be 65 on December 2nd. You've got to stop threatening people and
goading them to come after you. You're pathetic.
Allah's Cock Bar
Sep 29, 2016, 7:30:08 PM9/29/16
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PaxPerPoten
Sep 30, 2016, 4:09:15 AM9/30/16
to
On 9/29/2016 9:32 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
> On 9/28/2016 9:34 PM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
>> On 9/28/2016 10:56 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>> On 9/28/2016 8:27 PM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
>>>> On 9/28/2016 5:43 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>> On 9/28/2016 2:59 PM, Alosaurus wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/28/2016 3:29 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>> No, YOU are t-RUDE-y.
>>>>>>> What are you, 12?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Swill
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How'd you like your spine broken in 2?
>>>>>
>>>>> You won't do that. You couldn't, and you don't know anyone
>>>>> who would do it at your behest, either.
>>>>
>>>> No way to do that...
>>>
>>> Sure there is...if you're up to it. You're not. spammy isn't.
>>> Not one of you tuff-boyz is up to it.
>>
> On 9/28/2016 9:34 PM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
>> On 9/28/2016 10:56 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>> On 9/28/2016 8:27 PM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
>>>> On 9/28/2016 5:43 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>> On 9/28/2016 2:59 PM, Alosaurus wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/28/2016 3:29 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>> No, YOU are t-RUDE-y.
>>>>>>> What are you, 12?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Swill
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How'd you like your spine broken in 2?
>>>>>
>>>>> You won't do that. You couldn't, and you don't know anyone
>>>>> who would do it at your behest, either.
>>>>
>>>> No way to do that...
>>>
>>> Sure there is...if you're up to it. You're not. spammy isn't.
>>> Not one of you tuff-boyz is up to it.
>>
>> I don't do street shit and I am aware that you would more then
>> likely drop dead from a fatal heart attack anyway. Isn't it enough
>> that I have been in your putor and logged your ISP and all legally
>> because you threatened my life?
>
>> likely drop dead from a fatal heart attack anyway. Isn't it enough
>> that I have been in your putor and logged your ISP and all legally
>> because you threatened my life?
>
> You're not up to doing anything like that to me. No one you know
> is, either.
Yup...Done, sealed and delivered. Took a bit of Telnetting etc.. no problem.
> is, either.
None of the Above
Sep 30, 2016, 4:42:16 AM9/30/16
to
Derek
Sep 30, 2016, 5:18:22 AM9/30/16
to
Siri Cruise
Sep 30, 2016, 7:26:52 AM9/30/16
to
In article <099subd46o1ckucck...@4ax.com>,
Well, hell, Trump wants Russia to hack computers in US. I guess that's modern
patrioism.
None of the Above <E...@erg.oy> wrote:
> Mossad needs to pay Soros a visit.
So you want a foreign government to murder a US citizen.
> Mossad needs to pay Soros a visit.
Well, hell, Trump wants Russia to hack computers in US. I guess that's modern
patrioism.
Allah's Cock Bar
Sep 30, 2016, 10:50:16 AM9/30/16
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Allah's Cock Bar
Sep 30, 2016, 10:50:42 AM9/30/16
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Allah's Cock Bar
Sep 30, 2016, 10:51:49 AM9/30/16
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<crunches on some bacon for Allah>
Allah's Cock Bar
Sep 30, 2016, 10:59:29 AM9/30/16
to
On 9/30/2016 5:26 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> In article <099subd46o1ckucck...@4ax.com>,
> None of the Above <E...@erg.oy> wrote:
>
>> Mossad needs to pay Soros a visit.
>
> So you want a foreign government to murder a US citizen.
A NAZI "citizen" - hardly unprecedented to lock them up.
> In article <099subd46o1ckucck...@4ax.com>,
> None of the Above <E...@erg.oy> wrote:
>
>> Mossad needs to pay Soros a visit.
>
> So you want a foreign government to murder a US citizen.
> Well, hell, Trump wants Russia to hack computers in US.
> I guess that's modern patrioism.
Derek
Sep 30, 2016, 2:10:47 PM9/30/16
to
up the UK charts.
Allah's Cock Bar
Sep 30, 2016, 7:54:59 PM9/30/16
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PaxPerPoten
Oct 1, 2016, 1:31:31 AM10/1/16
to
On 9/30/2016 6:26 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> In article <099subd46o1ckucck...@4ax.com>,
> None of the Above <E...@erg.oy> wrote:
>
>> Mossad needs to pay Soros a visit.
>
> So you want a foreign government to murder a US citizen.
Soros claims several citizenship.. None of which he is loyal to.
> In article <099subd46o1ckucck...@4ax.com>,
> None of the Above <E...@erg.oy> wrote:
>
>> Mossad needs to pay Soros a visit.
>
> So you want a foreign government to murder a US citizen.
I have no Problem with the execution of a treasonous piece of shit like
Soros. In fact I would pull the trigger in his case and demand that you
watch! I am having suspicions about your patriotism?
>
> Well, hell, Trump wants Russia to hack computers in US. I guess that's modern
> patrioism.
>
--
> Well, hell, Trump wants Russia to hack computers in US. I guess that's modern
> patrioism.
>
--
PaxPerPoten
Oct 1, 2016, 1:32:46 AM10/1/16
to
Siri Cruise
Oct 1, 2016, 5:41:47 AM10/1/16
to
In article <nsnhn7$uo1$1...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
> Soros claims several citizenship.. None of which he is loyal to.
> I have no Problem with the execution of a treasonous piece of shit like
> Soros. In fact I would pull the trigger in his case and demand that you
> watch! I am having suspicions about your patriotism?
> Soros claims several citizenship.. None of which he is loyal to.
> I have no Problem with the execution of a treasonous piece of shit like
> Soros. In fact I would pull the trigger in his case and demand that you
> watch! I am having suspicions about your patriotism?
> It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard
> the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
> ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
> be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster
Due process?
> the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
> ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
> be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster
Allah's Cock Bar
Oct 1, 2016, 11:00:36 AM10/1/16
to
On 9/30/2016 11:31 PM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
> On 9/30/2016 6:26 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>> In article <099subd46o1ckucck...@4ax.com>,
>> None of the Above <E...@erg.oy> wrote:
>>
>>> Mossad needs to pay Soros a visit.
>>
>> So you want a foreign government to murder a US citizen.
>
> Soros claims several citizenship.. None of which he is loyal to.
> I have no Problem with the execution of a treasonous piece of shit like
> Soros. In fact I would pull the trigger in his case and demand that you
> watch! I am having suspicions about your patriotism?
The bitch is a meth addict, all else is trivial.
> On 9/30/2016 6:26 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>> In article <099subd46o1ckucck...@4ax.com>,
>> None of the Above <E...@erg.oy> wrote:
>>
>>> Mossad needs to pay Soros a visit.
>>
>> So you want a foreign government to murder a US citizen.
>
> Soros claims several citizenship.. None of which he is loyal to.
> I have no Problem with the execution of a treasonous piece of shit like
> Soros. In fact I would pull the trigger in his case and demand that you
> watch! I am having suspicions about your patriotism?
Allah's Cock Bar
Oct 1, 2016, 11:00:59 AM10/1/16
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Allah's Cock Bar
Oct 1, 2016, 11:01:51 AM10/1/16
to
On 10/1/2016 3:41 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> In article <nsnhn7$uo1$1...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
>
>> Soros claims several citizenship.. None of which he is loyal to.
>> I have no Problem with the execution of a treasonous piece of shit like
>> Soros. In fact I would pull the trigger in his case and demand that you
>> watch! I am having suspicions about your patriotism?
>
>> It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard
>> the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
>> ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
>> be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster
>
> Due process?
>
Meth take hold?
> In article <nsnhn7$uo1$1...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
>
>> Soros claims several citizenship.. None of which he is loyal to.
>> I have no Problem with the execution of a treasonous piece of shit like
>> Soros. In fact I would pull the trigger in his case and demand that you
>> watch! I am having suspicions about your patriotism?
>
>> It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard
>> the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
>> ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
>> be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster
>
> Due process?
>
PaxPerPoten
Oct 2, 2016, 12:54:13 AM10/2/16
to
On 10/1/2016 4:41 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> In article <nsnhn7$uo1$1...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
>
>> Soros claims several citizenship.. None of which he is loyal to.
>> I have no Problem with the execution of a treasonous piece of shit like
>> Soros. In fact I would pull the trigger in his case and demand that you
>> watch! I am having suspicions about your patriotism?
>
>> It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard
>> the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
>> ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
>> be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster
>
> Due process?
Oh..I would wait a few seconds for a lightning strike to off the bastard
> In article <nsnhn7$uo1$1...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
>
>> Soros claims several citizenship.. None of which he is loyal to.
>> I have no Problem with the execution of a treasonous piece of shit like
>> Soros. In fact I would pull the trigger in his case and demand that you
>> watch! I am having suspicions about your patriotism?
>
>> It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard
>> the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
>> ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
>> be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster
>
> Due process?
and on noncompliance from your Religious Empire.. I would finish the
job. Do you have any idea how many people and how much property been
destroyed with George Soros blessing? Adolph Hitler looks like the last
son of God in comparison.
>
--
Siri Cruise
Oct 2, 2016, 2:08:14 AM10/2/16
to
In article <nsq3t8$mae$1...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
> Oh..I would wait a few seconds for a lightning strike to off the bastard
> and on noncompliance from your Religious Empire.. I would finish the
> job. Do you have any idea how many people and how much property been
> destroyed with George Soros blessing? Adolph Hitler looks like the last
> son of God in comparison.
> >
Thank goodness Republicans like Drumpf have never done that.
> Oh..I would wait a few seconds for a lightning strike to off the bastard
> and on noncompliance from your Religious Empire.. I would finish the
> job. Do you have any idea how many people and how much property been
> destroyed with George Soros blessing? Adolph Hitler looks like the last
> son of God in comparison.
> >
Allah's Cock Bar
Oct 2, 2016, 11:38:57 AM10/2/16
to
On 10/2/2016 12:08 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> In article <nsq3t8$mae$1...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
>
>> Oh..I would wait a few seconds for a lightning strike to off the bastard
>> and on noncompliance from your Religious Empire.. I would finish the
>> job. Do you have any idea how many people and how much property been
>> destroyed with George Soros blessing? Adolph Hitler looks like the last
>> son of God in comparison.
>>>
>
> Thank goodness Republicans like Drumpf have never done that.
>
True meth face, he was never a property confiscator for the Nazis.
> In article <nsq3t8$mae$1...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
>
>> Oh..I would wait a few seconds for a lightning strike to off the bastard
>> and on noncompliance from your Religious Empire.. I would finish the
>> job. Do you have any idea how many people and how much property been
>> destroyed with George Soros blessing? Adolph Hitler looks like the last
>> son of God in comparison.
>>>
>
> Thank goodness Republicans like Drumpf have never done that.
>
And he hasn't given over $100million to Black Lies Matter.
Next!
PaxPerPoten
Oct 2, 2016, 11:46:17 PM10/2/16
to
On 10/2/2016 1:08 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> In article <nsq3t8$mae$1...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
>
>> Oh..I would wait a few seconds for a lightning strike to off the bastard
>> and on noncompliance from your Religious Empire.. I would finish the
>> job. Do you have any idea how many people and how much property been
>> destroyed with George Soros blessing? Adolph Hitler looks like the last
>> son of God in comparison.
>>>
>
> Thank goodness Republicans like Drumpf have never done that.
Perhaps you Religious Zealots should pray for the "Donald".
> In article <nsq3t8$mae$1...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
>
>> Oh..I would wait a few seconds for a lightning strike to off the bastard
>> and on noncompliance from your Religious Empire.. I would finish the
>> job. Do you have any idea how many people and how much property been
>> destroyed with George Soros blessing? Adolph Hitler looks like the last
>> son of God in comparison.
>>>
>
> Thank goodness Republicans like Drumpf have never done that.
By the way... Do you always use the first last name of all your married
friends. Or adopted friends..Or just folks that have legally changed
their names? So how would you like to be address in the future? Surely
you can find a moral and legitimate crime in which to paint Mr Trumps
Character?
Siri Cruise
Oct 3, 2016, 12:21:52 AM10/3/16
to
In article <nssk9r$1fu$1...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
> On 10/2/2016 1:08 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> > In article <nsq3t8$mae$1...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Oh..I would wait a few seconds for a lightning strike to off the bastard
> >> and on noncompliance from your Religious Empire.. I would finish the
> >> job. Do you have any idea how many people and how much property been
> >> destroyed with George Soros blessing? Adolph Hitler looks like the last
> >> son of God in comparison.
> >>>
> >
> > Thank goodness Republicans like Drumpf have never done that.
>
>
> Perhaps you Religious Zealots should pray for the "Donald".
> By the way... Do you always use the first last name of all your married
> friends. Or adopted friends..Or just folks that have legally changed
> their names? So how would you like to be address in the future? Surely
> you can find a moral and legitimate crime in which to paint Mr Trumps
> Character?
Evading sales tax on jewelry.
> On 10/2/2016 1:08 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> > In article <nsq3t8$mae$1...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Oh..I would wait a few seconds for a lightning strike to off the bastard
> >> and on noncompliance from your Religious Empire.. I would finish the
> >> job. Do you have any idea how many people and how much property been
> >> destroyed with George Soros blessing? Adolph Hitler looks like the last
> >> son of God in comparison.
> >>>
> >
> > Thank goodness Republicans like Drumpf have never done that.
>
>
> Perhaps you Religious Zealots should pray for the "Donald".
> By the way... Do you always use the first last name of all your married
> friends. Or adopted friends..Or just folks that have legally changed
> their names? So how would you like to be address in the future? Surely
> you can find a moral and legitimate crime in which to paint Mr Trumps
> Character?
Running an illegitmate charity.
Using a 'charity' to make political contribution.
Violating the Cuba embargo.
...
PaxPerPoten
Oct 3, 2016, 1:27:31 AM10/3/16
to
On 10/2/2016 11:21 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> In article <nssk9r$1fu$1...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
>
>> On 10/2/2016 1:08 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>> In article <nsq3t8$mae$1...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh..I would wait a few seconds for a lightning strike to off the bastard
>>>> and on noncompliance from your Religious Empire.. I would finish the
>>>> job. Do you have any idea how many people and how much property been
>>>> destroyed with George Soros blessing? Adolph Hitler looks like the last
>>>> son of God in comparison.
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Thank goodness Republicans like Drumpf have never done that.
>>
>>
>> Perhaps you Religious Zealots should pray for the "Donald".
>> By the way... Do you always use the first last name of all your married
>> friends. Or adopted friends..Or just folks that have legally changed
>> their names? So how would you like to be address in the future? Surely
>> you can find a moral and legitimate crime in which to paint Mr Trumps
>> Character?
>
> Evading sales tax on jewelry.
> Running an illegitmate charity.
> Using a 'charity' to make political contribution.
> Violating the Cuba embargo.
That partially covers the Klinton Kartel..
> In article <nssk9r$1fu$1...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
>
>> On 10/2/2016 1:08 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>> In article <nsq3t8$mae$1...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh..I would wait a few seconds for a lightning strike to off the bastard
>>>> and on noncompliance from your Religious Empire.. I would finish the
>>>> job. Do you have any idea how many people and how much property been
>>>> destroyed with George Soros blessing? Adolph Hitler looks like the last
>>>> son of God in comparison.
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Thank goodness Republicans like Drumpf have never done that.
>>
>>
>> Perhaps you Religious Zealots should pray for the "Donald".
>> By the way... Do you always use the first last name of all your married
>> friends. Or adopted friends..Or just folks that have legally changed
>> their names? So how would you like to be address in the future? Surely
>> you can find a moral and legitimate crime in which to paint Mr Trumps
>> Character?
>
> Evading sales tax on jewelry.
> Running an illegitmate charity.
> Using a 'charity' to make political contribution.
> Violating the Cuba embargo.
We were talking about Trump!
> ...
Allah's Cock Bar
Oct 3, 2016, 11:46:51 AM10/3/16
to
On 10/2/2016 10:21 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> In article <nssk9r$1fu$1...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
>
>> On 10/2/2016 1:08 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>> In article <nsq3t8$mae$1...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh..I would wait a few seconds for a lightning strike to off the bastard
>>>> and on noncompliance from your Religious Empire.. I would finish the
>>>> job. Do you have any idea how many people and how much property been
>>>> destroyed with George Soros blessing? Adolph Hitler looks like the last
>>>> son of God in comparison.
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Thank goodness Republicans like Drumpf have never done that.
>>
>>
>> Perhaps you Religious Zealots should pray for the "Donald".
>> By the way... Do you always use the first last name of all your married
>> friends. Or adopted friends..Or just folks that have legally changed
>> their names? So how would you like to be address in the future? Surely
>> you can find a moral and legitimate crime in which to paint Mr Trumps
>> Character?
>
> Evading sales tax on jewelry.
Oh no!
> In article <nssk9r$1fu$1...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
>
>> On 10/2/2016 1:08 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>> In article <nsq3t8$mae$1...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh..I would wait a few seconds for a lightning strike to off the bastard
>>>> and on noncompliance from your Religious Empire.. I would finish the
>>>> job. Do you have any idea how many people and how much property been
>>>> destroyed with George Soros blessing? Adolph Hitler looks like the last
>>>> son of God in comparison.
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Thank goodness Republicans like Drumpf have never done that.
>>
>>
>> Perhaps you Religious Zealots should pray for the "Donald".
>> By the way... Do you always use the first last name of all your married
>> friends. Or adopted friends..Or just folks that have legally changed
>> their names? So how would you like to be address in the future? Surely
>> you can find a moral and legitimate crime in which to paint Mr Trumps
>> Character?
>
> Evading sales tax on jewelry.
Someone call Jared!
> Running an illegitmate charity.
He has nothing to do with the Clintoon Foundation.
> Using a 'charity' to make political contribution.
> Violating the Cuba embargo.
> ...
You gutless hypocritical cunt.
Governor Swill
Oct 3, 2016, 2:25:48 PM10/3/16
to
On Sun, 02 Oct 2016 21:21:49 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>In article <nssk9r$1fu$1...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
>
>> On 10/2/2016 1:08 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>> > In article <nsq3t8$mae$1...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Oh..I would wait a few seconds for a lightning strike to off the bastard
>> >> and on noncompliance from your Religious Empire.. I would finish the
>> >> job. Do you have any idea how many people and how much property been
>> >> destroyed with George Soros blessing? Adolph Hitler looks like the last
>> >> son of God in comparison.
>> >>>
>> >
>> > Thank goodness Republicans like Drumpf have never done that.
>>
>>
>> Perhaps you Religious Zealots should pray for the "Donald".
>> By the way... Do you always use the first last name of all your married
>> friends. Or adopted friends..Or just folks that have legally changed
>> their names? So how would you like to be address in the future? Surely
>> you can find a moral and legitimate crime in which to paint Mr Trumps
>> Character?
>
>Evading sales tax on jewelry.
>Running an illegitmate charity.
>Using a 'charity' to make political contribution.
Using the same charity to pay a fine.
>Violating the Cuba embargo.
Can't imagine why a "Hitlary" voter would object to "Drumpf".
Swill
--
#imwithher #strongertogether
Just because I found this fascinating reading . . .
"Can Conservatives...or Liberals... Govern?"
http://davidbrin.blogspot.com/2006/07/can-conservativesor-liberals-govern.html
wrote:
>In article <nssk9r$1fu$1...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
>
>> On 10/2/2016 1:08 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>> > In article <nsq3t8$mae$1...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Oh..I would wait a few seconds for a lightning strike to off the bastard
>> >> and on noncompliance from your Religious Empire.. I would finish the
>> >> job. Do you have any idea how many people and how much property been
>> >> destroyed with George Soros blessing? Adolph Hitler looks like the last
>> >> son of God in comparison.
>> >>>
>> >
>> > Thank goodness Republicans like Drumpf have never done that.
>>
>>
>> Perhaps you Religious Zealots should pray for the "Donald".
>> By the way... Do you always use the first last name of all your married
>> friends. Or adopted friends..Or just folks that have legally changed
>> their names? So how would you like to be address in the future? Surely
>> you can find a moral and legitimate crime in which to paint Mr Trumps
>> Character?
>
>Evading sales tax on jewelry.
>Running an illegitmate charity.
>Using a 'charity' to make political contribution.
>Violating the Cuba embargo.
Can't imagine why a "Hitlary" voter would object to "Drumpf".
Swill
--
#imwithher #strongertogether
Just because I found this fascinating reading . . .
"Can Conservatives...or Liberals... Govern?"
http://davidbrin.blogspot.com/2006/07/can-conservativesor-liberals-govern.html
Governor Swill
Oct 3, 2016, 2:27:33 PM10/3/16
to
On Mon, 3 Oct PaxPerPoten wrote:
>Siri Cruise wrote:
>> Evading sales tax on jewelry.
>> Running an illegitmate charity.
>> Using a 'charity' to make political contribution.
>> Violating the Cuba embargo.
>
>That partially covers the Klinton Kartel..
>We were talking about Trump!
Prove that Clinton did any of that. Don't just repeat it, PROVE it.
>Siri Cruise wrote:
>> Evading sales tax on jewelry.
>> Running an illegitmate charity.
>> Using a 'charity' to make political contribution.
>> Violating the Cuba embargo.
>
>That partially covers the Klinton Kartel..
>We were talking about Trump!
Allah's Cock Bar
Oct 3, 2016, 2:40:49 PM10/3/16
to
On 10/3/2016 12:25 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> Evading sales tax on jewelry.
>> >Running an illegitmate charity.
>> >Using a 'charity' to make political contribution.
> Using the same charity to pay a fine.
http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/08/12/judge-jeanine-goes-clinton-foundation-money-laundering-op-not-charity
>> Evading sales tax on jewelry.
>> >Running an illegitmate charity.
>> >Using a 'charity' to make political contribution.
> Using the same charity to pay a fine.
Judge Jeanine Pirro went off this morning, calling the Clinton
Foundation nothing more than a "money laundering operation used as a
slush fund."
>> >Violating the Cuba embargo.
> Can't imagine why a "Hitlary" voter would object to "Drumpf".
>
> Swill
> --
Ceegar up yer arsehole?
Allah's Cock Bar
Oct 3, 2016, 2:42:40 PM10/3/16
to
On 10/3/2016 12:27 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Oct PaxPerPoten wrote:
>> Siri Cruise wrote:
>>> Evading sales tax on jewelry.
>>> Running an illegitmate charity.
>>> Using a 'charity' to make political contribution.
>>> Violating the Cuba embargo.
>>
>> That partially covers the Klinton Kartel..
>> We were talking about Trump!
>
> Prove that Clinton did any of that. Don't just repeat it, PROVE it.
>
> Swill
>
http://www.wnd.com/2016/01/clinton-foundation-organized-crime-at-its-finest/
> On Mon, 3 Oct PaxPerPoten wrote:
>> Siri Cruise wrote:
>>> Evading sales tax on jewelry.
>>> Running an illegitmate charity.
>>> Using a 'charity' to make political contribution.
>>> Violating the Cuba embargo.
>>
>> That partially covers the Klinton Kartel..
>> We were talking about Trump!
>
> Prove that Clinton did any of that. Don't just repeat it, PROVE it.
>
> Swill
>
The Clinton Foundation is “organized crime” at its finest, and we are
financing it.
Here is a good, concise summary of how the Clinton Foundation works as a
tax-free international money-laundering scheme. It may eventually prove
to be the largest political criminal enterprise in U.S. history.
This is a textbook case on how you hide foreign money sent to you and
repackage it to be used for your own purposes. All tax free. Here’s how
it works:
1. You create a separate foreign “charity.” In this case, one in Canada.
2. Foreign oligarchs and governments then donate to this Canadian
charity. In this case, more than 1,000 did – contributing mega millions.
I’m sure they did this out of the goodness of their hearts and expected
nothing in return. (Imagine Putin’s buddies waking up one morning and
just deciding to send untold millions to a Canadian charity.)
3. The Canadian charity then bundles these separate donations and makes
a massive donation to the Clinton Foundation.
4. The Clinton Foundation and the cooperating Canadian charity claim
Canadian law prohibits the identification of individual donors.
5. The Clinton Foundation then “spends” some of this money for
legitimate good-works programs. Unfortunately, experts believe this is
on the order of 10 percent. Much of the balance goes to enrich the
Clintons, pay salaries to untold numbers of hangers on, and fund lavish
travel, etc. Again, virtually all tax free, which means you and I are
subsidizing it.
6. The Clinton Foundation, with access to the world’s best accountants,
somehow fails to report much of this on its tax filings. It discovers
these “clerical errors” and begins the process of re-filing five years
of tax returns.
7. Net result – foreign money, much of it from other countries, goes
into the Clintons’ pockets tax free and untraceable back to the original
donor. This is the textbook definition of money laundering.
Oh, by the way, the Canadian “charity” includes as a principal one Frank
Giustra. Google him. He is the guy who was central to the formation of
Uranium One, the Canadian company that somehow acquired massive U.S.
uranium interests and then sold them to an organization controlled by
Russia. This transaction required U.S. State Department approval, and
guess who was secretary of state when the approval was granted. As an
aside, imagine how former Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell feels. That poor
schlep is in jail because he and his wife took $165,000 in gifts and
loans for doing minor favors for a guy promoting a vitamin company. Not
legal, but not exactly putting U.S. security risk. Sarcasm aside, if
you’re still not persuaded this was a cleverly structured way to get
unidentified foreign money to the Clintons, ask yourself this:
Why did these foreign interests funnel money through a Canadian charity?
Why not donate directly to the Clinton Foundation? Better yet, why not
donate money directly to the people, organizations and countries in need?
This is the essence of money laundering and influence peddling. Now you
know why Hillary’s destruction of 30,000 e-mails was a risk she was
willing to take.
Bill and Hillary are devious, unprincipled, dishonest and criminal, and
they are slick! Warning: They could be back in the White House in
January 2017. Don’t let it happen. Remember, most people are not well
informed. You must inform and educate them.
Errol Phillips
PaxPerPoten
Oct 3, 2016, 7:25:25 PM10/3/16
to
On 10/3/2016 1:27 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Oct PaxPerPoten wrote:
>> Siri Cruise wrote:
>>> Evading sales tax on jewelry.
>>> Running an illegitmate charity.
>>> Using a 'charity' to make political contribution.
>>> Violating the Cuba embargo.
>>
>> That partially covers the Klinton Kartel..
>> We were talking about Trump!
>
> Prove that Clinton did any of that. Don't just repeat it, PROVE it.
You and Scuzy Sue first..After all you are the phantom Alligators.
> On Mon, 3 Oct PaxPerPoten wrote:
>> Siri Cruise wrote:
>>> Evading sales tax on jewelry.
>>> Running an illegitmate charity.
>>> Using a 'charity' to make political contribution.
>>> Violating the Cuba embargo.
>>
>> That partially covers the Klinton Kartel..
>> We were talking about Trump!
>
> Prove that Clinton did any of that. Don't just repeat it, PROVE it.
Siri Cruise
Oct 4, 2016, 1:08:07 AM10/4/16
to
In article <nsupcn$1g7$9...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
> On 10/3/2016 1:27 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> > On Mon, 3 Oct PaxPerPoten wrote:
> >> Siri Cruise wrote:
> >>> Evading sales tax on jewelry.
> >>> Running an illegitmate charity.
> >>> Using a 'charity' to make political contribution.
> >>> Violating the Cuba embargo.
> >>
> >> That partially covers the Klinton Kartel..
> >> We were talking about Trump!
> >
> > Prove that Clinton did any of that. Don't just repeat it, PROVE it.
>
> You and Scuzy Sue first..After all you are the phantom Alligators.
Are you afraid of losing your other hand?
> On 10/3/2016 1:27 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> > On Mon, 3 Oct PaxPerPoten wrote:
> >> Siri Cruise wrote:
> >>> Evading sales tax on jewelry.
> >>> Running an illegitmate charity.
> >>> Using a 'charity' to make political contribution.
> >>> Violating the Cuba embargo.
> >>
> >> That partially covers the Klinton Kartel..
> >> We were talking about Trump!
> >
> > Prove that Clinton did any of that. Don't just repeat it, PROVE it.
>
> You and Scuzy Sue first..After all you are the phantom Alligators.
PaxPerPoten
Oct 4, 2016, 2:29:50 AM10/4/16
to
On 10/4/2016 12:08 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> In article <nsupcn$1g7$9...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
>
>> On 10/3/2016 1:27 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>> On Mon, 3 Oct PaxPerPoten wrote:
>>>> Siri Cruise wrote:
>>>>> Evading sales tax on jewelry.
>>>>> Running an illegitmate charity.
>>>>> Using a 'charity' to make political contribution.
>>>>> Violating the Cuba embargo.
>>>>
>>>> That partially covers the Klinton Kartel..
>>>> We were talking about Trump!
>>>
>>> Prove that Clinton did any of that. Don't just repeat it, PROVE it.
>>
>> You and Scuzy Sue first..After all you are the phantom Alligators.
>
> Are you afraid of losing your other hand?
Nope...But I do wonder if you and slops might get tossed off of a high
> In article <nsupcn$1g7$9...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
>
>> On 10/3/2016 1:27 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>> On Mon, 3 Oct PaxPerPoten wrote:
>>>> Siri Cruise wrote:
>>>>> Evading sales tax on jewelry.
>>>>> Running an illegitmate charity.
>>>>> Using a 'charity' to make political contribution.
>>>>> Violating the Cuba embargo.
>>>>
>>>> That partially covers the Klinton Kartel..
>>>> We were talking about Trump!
>>>
>>> Prove that Clinton did any of that. Don't just repeat it, PROVE it.
>>
>> You and Scuzy Sue first..After all you are the phantom Alligators.
>
> Are you afraid of losing your other hand?
building for being sodomites. Apparently Allah is not to keen on fudge
packers and dick lickers.
Siri Cruise
Oct 4, 2016, 4:02:10 AM10/4/16
to
In article <nsvi8f$pch$1...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
> On 10/4/2016 12:08 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> > In article <nsupcn$1g7$9...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On 10/3/2016 1:27 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 3 Oct PaxPerPoten wrote:
> >>>> Siri Cruise wrote:
> >>>>> Evading sales tax on jewelry.
> >>>>> Running an illegitmate charity.
> >>>>> Using a 'charity' to make political contribution.
> >>>>> Violating the Cuba embargo.
> >>>>
> >>>> That partially covers the Klinton Kartel..
> >>>> We were talking about Trump!
> >>>
> >>> Prove that Clinton did any of that. Don't just repeat it, PROVE it.
> >>
> >> You and Scuzy Sue first..After all you are the phantom Alligators.
> >
> > Are you afraid of losing your other hand?
>
> Nope...But I do wonder if you and slops might get tossed off of a high
> building for being sodomites. Apparently Allah is not to keen on fudge
> packers and dick lickers.
> >
They hate atheists and pogans more.
> On 10/4/2016 12:08 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> > In article <nsupcn$1g7$9...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On 10/3/2016 1:27 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 3 Oct PaxPerPoten wrote:
> >>>> Siri Cruise wrote:
> >>>>> Evading sales tax on jewelry.
> >>>>> Running an illegitmate charity.
> >>>>> Using a 'charity' to make political contribution.
> >>>>> Violating the Cuba embargo.
> >>>>
> >>>> That partially covers the Klinton Kartel..
> >>>> We were talking about Trump!
> >>>
> >>> Prove that Clinton did any of that. Don't just repeat it, PROVE it.
> >>
> >> You and Scuzy Sue first..After all you are the phantom Alligators.
> >
> > Are you afraid of losing your other hand?
>
> Nope...But I do wonder if you and slops might get tossed off of a high
> building for being sodomites. Apparently Allah is not to keen on fudge
> packers and dick lickers.
> >
So are you a christian this week or what?
Allah's Cock Bar
Oct 4, 2016, 10:14:32 AM10/4/16
to
On 10/3/2016 11:08 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> In article <nsupcn$1g7$9...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
>
>> On 10/3/2016 1:27 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>> On Mon, 3 Oct PaxPerPoten wrote:
>>>> Siri Cruise wrote:
>>>>> Evading sales tax on jewelry.
>>>>> Running an illegitmate charity.
>>>>> Using a 'charity' to make political contribution.
>>>>> Violating the Cuba embargo.
>>>>
>>>> That partially covers the Klinton Kartel..
>>>> We were talking about Trump!
>>>
>>> Prove that Clinton did any of that. Don't just repeat it, PROVE it.
>>
>> You and Scuzy Sue first..After all you are the phantom Alligators.
>
> Are you afraid of losing your other hand?
>
Like the way meth took your face?
> In article <nsupcn$1g7$9...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
>
>> On 10/3/2016 1:27 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>> On Mon, 3 Oct PaxPerPoten wrote:
>>>> Siri Cruise wrote:
>>>>> Evading sales tax on jewelry.
>>>>> Running an illegitmate charity.
>>>>> Using a 'charity' to make political contribution.
>>>>> Violating the Cuba embargo.
>>>>
>>>> That partially covers the Klinton Kartel..
>>>> We were talking about Trump!
>>>
>>> Prove that Clinton did any of that. Don't just repeat it, PROVE it.
>>
>> You and Scuzy Sue first..After all you are the phantom Alligators.
>
> Are you afraid of losing your other hand?
>
Allah's Cock Bar
Oct 4, 2016, 10:27:32 AM10/4/16
to
On 10/4/2016 2:02 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>> Apparently Allah is not to keen on fudge
>> > packers and dick lickers.
>>> > >
> They hate atheists and pogans more.
Prove that, meth face.
>> Apparently Allah is not to keen on fudge
>> > packers and dick lickers.
>>> > >
> They hate atheists and pogans more.
Governor Swill
Oct 4, 2016, 12:43:55 PM10/4/16
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On Mon, 03 Oct Siri Cruise wrote:
>PaxPerPoten wrote:
>> On 10/3/2016 1:27 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> > On Mon, 3 Oct PaxPerPoten wrote:
>> >> Siri Cruise wrote:
>> >>> Evading sales tax on jewelry.
>> >>> Running an illegitmate charity.
>> >>> Using a 'charity' to make political contribution.
>> >>> Violating the Cuba embargo.
>> >> That partially covers the Klinton Kartel..
>> >> We were talking about Trump!
>> > Prove that Clinton did any of that. Don't just repeat it, PROVE it.
>> You and Scuzy Sue first..After all you are the phantom Alligators.
Done. All her list is proven below.
>PaxPerPoten wrote:
>> On 10/3/2016 1:27 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> > On Mon, 3 Oct PaxPerPoten wrote:
>> >> Siri Cruise wrote:
>> >>> Evading sales tax on jewelry.
>> >>> Running an illegitmate charity.
>> >>> Using a 'charity' to make political contribution.
>> >>> Violating the Cuba embargo.
>> >> That partially covers the Klinton Kartel..
>> >> We were talking about Trump!
>> > Prove that Clinton did any of that. Don't just repeat it, PROVE it.
>> You and Scuzy Sue first..After all you are the phantom Alligators.
>Are you afraid of losing your other hand?
behaviors and is asking to see them all again.
If Pee Pee wants proof . . .
>> >>> Evading sales tax on jewelry.
"Back in 1986 and likely for many years before, Donald Trump colluded
in tax evasion with Bulgari Jewelry Store in New York, a high-end posh
location with tony clientele right out of Lifestyles of the Rich and
Famous. Here’s how the scam worked:
Trump would go into the store with his wife, his girlfriend,
his…whatever (to use his vernacular). He would then buy her an
expensive necklace or wristwatch. Normally, such a transaction would
face the New York city and state sales tax, which would be pretty high
on luxury jewelry.
In an illegal attempt to evade the tax, Trump “asked” the store to
instead ship the jewelry to an out of state location, where no New
York sales tax could be collected. In fact, the store would merely
send an empty jewelry box to the location, while Trump and his lady
friends walked out the door with the jewelry that very day.
The state and city tax collectors eventually caught onto this scheme,
and Trump promptly testified against his erstwhile tax evasion
colluding partners at the jewelry store in order to save his own
skin."
<http://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanellis/2016/03/08/donald-trump-and-the-empty-jewelry-box-tax-scam/#3bbd55ee6aa7>
And let's add property tax evasion as well.
"The empty box scam is just the most colorful example of Trump’s
history of crossing the line from legal tax avoidance to illegal tax
evasion. Many other such stories can be told about his Mar-a-Lago
estate in Florida by local reporter Frank Cerabino.
The first Palm Beach story is interesting. Trump bought the property
from the estate of breakfast cereal heiress Marjorie Merriweather
Post. He got it for a relative bargain at $7.5 million, something he
bragged about in The Art of the Deal. Yet he refused for years to pay
local property taxes on the actual value of the property, $11.5
million at the time he bought it. He tried to have it both ways–buy
the property for a steep discount and also pay property taxes at that
under-valued level.
Try that with your town’s property tax assessor sometime and see what
he says."
And they wonder why we want to see his income tax returns. . .
>> >>> Running an illegitimate charity.
From NYT and WaPo:
"The foundation’s compliance with the rules that govern nonprofit
groups has also been a concern. The New York Times reported last month
that Mr. Trump’s foundation does not show up on the charity registers
in many states, and The Washington Post subsequently reported that the
foundation did not have the certification necessary to solicit money
in New York."
<http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/04/us/politics/trump-foundation-money.html?_r=0>
The Trump Foundation has also come under fire for not following other
rules such as submitting to audits.
"Under the laws in New York, where the Donald J. Trump Foundation is
based, any charity that solicits more than $25,000 a year from the
public must obtain a special kind of registration beforehand.
Charities as large as Trump’s must also submit to a rigorous annual
audit that asks — among other things — whether the charity spent any
money for the personal benefit of its officers."
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/2016/09/29/7dac6a68-8658-11e6-ac72-a29979381495_story.html>
>> >>> Using a 'charity' to make political contribution.
". . . on September 14, 2013, the Orlando Sentinel reported that a
Bondi’s spokesperson told stated that the Florida AG was “reviewing
the New York lawsuit’s allegations,” and was deliberating on whether
to join the New York AG’s case."
"Four days later, a pro-Bondi PAC, And Justice for All, received a
check from the Donald J. Trump Foundation for $25,000. In mid-October,
Bondi’s office told the Florida press that “no action was necessary”
and that Florida residents would be compensated under the New York
action since it covered all consumers nationwide."
<http://fortune.com/2016/09/12/trump-foundation-bondi-florida-ag/>
He also used charity funds to pay fines and litigation.
"Donald Trump's campaign manager sought to downplay concerns raised by
a report Tuesday that the Republican nominee's personal philanthropy
used more than $250,000 to litigate lawsuits against opponents of his
business interests."
<http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/20/politics/washington-post-trump-foundation-report/>
>> >>> Violating the Cuba embargo.
From Newsweek and Realclearpolitics:
"A company controlled by Donald Trump, the Republican nominee for
president, secretly conducted business in Communist Cuba during Fidel
Castro’s presidency despite strict American trade bans that made such
undertakings illegal, according to interviews with former Trump
executives, internal company records and court filings."
"On February 8, 1999, Seven Arrows billed Trump Hotels & Casino
Resorts, Inc. for the $68,551.88 it had incurred prior to and
including a trip to Cuba on behalf of Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts
Inc." (includes a redacted scan of the bill)
<http://www.newsweek.com/2016/10/14/donald-trump-cuban-embargo-castro-violated-florida-504059.html>
Kellyanne admitted on The View that Trump spent tens of thousands in
Cuba. (includes video of her admission)
<http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/09/29/the_view_vs_kellyanne_conway_media_screaming_headlines_about_trump_ignores_clintons_foreign_money.html>
I saw her on CNN state again that Trump didn't invest anything in
Cuba, but when asked point blank if Trump had spent any money there,
she refused to answer the question.
This may help explain Clinton's recent surge in Florida.
Going beyond that limited list above . . .
Add the property tax evasion and using money from his charitable
foundation to pay legal costs and fines as well as make charitable
donations in his own name that, in fact, came out of Foundation monies
illegally donated by others.
The Foundation turns out to be a money laundering scam. People who
owed him money were directed to make a "charitable donation" to his
Foundation which would then spend money on Trump and his businesses
such as tens of thousands for paintings (at least one of which hangs
in a Trump property), and the aforementioned legal costs.
What if his returns show him listing charitable donations he didn't
make out of his own pocket? And what will he say when an audit of the
Trump Foundation shows even more Foundation money routed into his
pockets?
Swill
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Allah's Cock Bar
Oct 4, 2016, 1:33:45 PM10/4/16
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On 10/4/2016 10:43 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
> From Forbes:
>
> "Back in 1986 and likely for many years before, Donald Trump colluded
> in tax evasion
Conviction?
> From Forbes:
>
> "Back in 1986 and likely for many years before, Donald Trump colluded
> in tax evasion
Charges?
Jail time?
No?
LOLOL!
PaxPerPoten
Oct 4, 2016, 10:30:48 PM10/4/16
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On 10/4/2016 3:02 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> In article <nsvi8f$pch$1...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
>
>> On 10/4/2016 12:08 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>> In article <nsupcn$1g7$9...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/3/2016 1:27 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 3 Oct PaxPerPoten wrote:
>>>>>> Siri Cruise wrote:
>>>>>>> Evading sales tax on jewelry.
>>>>>>> Running an illegitmate charity.
>>>>>>> Using a 'charity' to make political contribution.
>>>>>>> Violating the Cuba embargo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That partially covers the Klinton Kartel..
>>>>>> We were talking about Trump!
>>>>>
>>>>> Prove that Clinton did any of that. Don't just repeat it, PROVE it.
>>>>
>>>> You and Scuzy Sue first..After all you are the phantom Alligators.
>>>
>>> Are you afraid of losing your other hand?
>>
>> Nope...But I do wonder if you and slops might get tossed off of a high
>> building for being sodomites. Apparently Allah is not to keen on fudge
>> packers and dick lickers.
>>>
>
> They hate atheists and pogans more.
>
> So are you a christian this week or what?
How about a deep belief that there is order in the Universe?
> In article <nsvi8f$pch$1...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
>
>> On 10/4/2016 12:08 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>> In article <nsupcn$1g7$9...@dont-email.me>, PaxPerPoten <P...@USA.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/3/2016 1:27 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 3 Oct PaxPerPoten wrote:
>>>>>> Siri Cruise wrote:
>>>>>>> Evading sales tax on jewelry.
>>>>>>> Running an illegitmate charity.
>>>>>>> Using a 'charity' to make political contribution.
>>>>>>> Violating the Cuba embargo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That partially covers the Klinton Kartel..
>>>>>> We were talking about Trump!
>>>>>
>>>>> Prove that Clinton did any of that. Don't just repeat it, PROVE it.
>>>>
>>>> You and Scuzy Sue first..After all you are the phantom Alligators.
>>>
>>> Are you afraid of losing your other hand?
>>
>> Nope...But I do wonder if you and slops might get tossed off of a high
>> building for being sodomites. Apparently Allah is not to keen on fudge
>> packers and dick lickers.
>>>
>
> They hate atheists and pogans more.
>
> So are you a christian this week or what?
And what it a Pogan? Christianity is based on the Abramic Mythology
created by the Jews..Same fictionalized story that is the base religion
of the Islamist. Violent Murderous Mysticism sells. Sooo? to which of
these poisonous religions do you ascribe?
PaxPerPoten
Oct 4, 2016, 10:35:14 PM10/4/16
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On 10/4/2016 11:43 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
?
>
> As usual, he's ignored repeated cites proving Trump's criminal
> behaviors and is asking to see them all again.
Just more made up bullshit... Slops. you are a shame to the Human
?
>
> As usual, he's ignored repeated cites proving Trump's criminal
> behaviors and is asking to see them all again.
race..As is the Lunatic SCuzi Sue.
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