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Life in the Atheist States behind the Iron Curtin was not all Torture and Murder

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Morton Lucifer

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Aug 14, 2009, 9:14:53 PM8/14/09
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Life in the Atheist States behind the Iron Curtin was not all Torture
and Murder, there was also soul destroying dreariness, a grey
conformity, crumbling inefficiency and general STIFLING of the Human Spirit.

When people are not free to express their core beliefs, they wither,
and everything about the Atheist states was second, third fifth rate.

People queued for a turnip, if it had not been for Radio Free Europe
they would never have heard the Beatles, rock music was banned and
Eastern European Youth were disappointed when they experienced
no effect from furtively drinking a smuggled Coke, after they
had been told by their lying Atheist tyrants that "Western Youth are
drunk on Coca Cola!" B^D


The Symbol of ramshackle Atheistic Communism was the Trabant, the East
German clunker that is the eternal butt of automotive jokes.

Now, from the ashes of the Atheist regimes rises a new symbol of
recovery from the misery and despair of those barren godless decades of
failure;

"The Trabant - polluting, joke-inspiring and the enduring
symbol of the imploding nation that made it - is being
reborn as an electric car for a greener world.

The new model debuts at the Frankfurt motor show next month..

The old version, for which people had to wait up to 10 years,
was a study in basics. The petrol gauge was a dipstick and
extra heating came from a rug under the back seat"

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA

This will all be familiar to those living in the
last remaining Atheist State, North Korea, where
the diet in famine times is eating grass and drinking Stone
Soup.

"The new one comes with solar panels on the roof and a petrol tank
in case of emergencies and will have a range of a little over 240
kilometres.

The German government wants to see over a million electric cars
on the road by 2020, and most major companies are investing
heavily in the technology."

Ask the 300,000,000 former atheists in China who have
embraced religion, ask the Poles whose Pope aided Solidarity
to bring democracy and religious freedom back to their
captive land and people, ask any of the former victims
of the atheist regimes, EVERY ONE OF WHICH WAS A TOTALITARIAN
TYRANNY.. and they will tell you;

The old Trabant, like the atheist tyrannies it symbolised,
was a JOKE!

A Trabant customer is informed by phone in June 1980 that
his Trabant will be ready to be picked up on June 1, 1990

"In the morning or afternoon", asks the man

"It's 10 years away" says the salesman

"I know", says the Customer "Only I've got the plumber
coming in the morning."

---------

95 Theses for Atheist Reformation

All belief systems ossify over time.

Jesus taught that Love came before politics and wealth,
but his church at times, regressed and pursued the latter.

Mohammed brought revolutionary rights for women, but his
followers wound them back in favour of traditional male privilege.

And atheism, once a tiny and ineffectual offshoot of Greek philosophy
has devolved into a series of dreadful totalitarian tyrannies.

What is required is Reformation. In religion this is achieved by
progressive revelation.. the Divine CYCLE of renewal and rebirth;
Springtime, Summer, Autumn, Winter

In atheism guidance must come from a lesser source;

The Atheist Reformation Movement - ARM

Gentleman, TO ARMs!


Cry Havoc and Let Slip the Blogs of Reform!

Seon

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Aug 14, 2009, 9:28:31 PM8/14/09
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It wasn't a atheist state you lying moron it is a COMMUNIST state. or are
you like one of those idiots who think all Muslims are personally
responsible for 911 or that all Christians are personally responsible for
the Crusades?
Because by lying like you do and resorting to slander you are using the same
"Logic" as those morons.

"Morton Lucifer" <"95 Theses"@atheist-reformation.org> wrote in message
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fasgnadh

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Seon lied his stupid head off, lets eviscerate his moronic bullshit:
> "Morton Lucifer" <"95 Theses"@atheist-reformation.org> wrote;
>>
>> Life in the Atheist States behind the Iron Curtin was not all Torture
>> and Murder, there was also soul destroying dreariness, a grey
>> conformity, crumbling inefficiency and general STIFLING of the Human
>> Spirit.
>>
>> When people are not free to express their core beliefs, they wither,
>> and everything about the Atheist states was second, third fifth rate.
>>
>> People queued for a turnip, if it had not been for Radio Free Europe
>> they would never have heard the Beatles, rock music was banned and
>> Eastern European Youth were disappointed when they experienced
>> no effect from furtively drinking a smuggled Coke, after they
>> had been told by their lying Atheist tyrants that "Western Youth are
>> drunk on Coca Cola!" B^D
>>
>>
>> The Symbol of ramshackle Atheistic Communism was the Trabant, the East
>> German clunker that is the eternal butt of automotive jokes.
>>

Sounds like a good name for Virgil, the post forging atheist 'Clunker'
who is a dogged 'Foot Soldier' (Trabant) for the atheist thugs in
alt.atheism! B^D Both are noisy, inefficient, flawed, smelly,
out-of-date, unreliable and a complete JOKE! B^]


The dour humourlessness and moronic propaganda lies of atheists has
apparently not diminished from the days of Pravda, they still
attempt BARE FACED LIES in the face of overwhelming evidence
against them;


> It wasn't a atheist state

Stop lying you pathetic moron, the ATHEIST LEADER of THE RULING
PARTY WHICH IN WHICH EVERY MEMBER WAS AN ATHEIST, says that
you are full of shit;


"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

> you lying moron

You haven't shown ANY lie by me. B^] All the evidence shows
that YOU are the lying atheist holocaust denier!

Clearly we either take the word of Seon, a hysterical and irrational
screeching idiot WITH NO PROOF for his lies, or the ATHEIST LEADER of
the Soviet regime, whose membership was entirely ATHEIST, implemented
atheist policies, including the FORCED indoctrination of children,
killed priests and expropriated and destroyed churches, synagogues,
mosques and temples.

No wonder it si described, by peer-reviewed professional
historians, as an ATHEIST STATE;

# "State atheism has been mostly implemented in communist
# countries, such as the former Soviet Union, China,
# Communist Albania, Communist Afghanistan, North Korea,
# Communist Mongolia and Poland under communist rule also
# promoted state atheism and suppressed religion.
# - Forced out: the fate of Polish Jewry in Communist Poland.
# Wolak, Arthur J. p 104
#
# In these nations, the governments viewed atheism as an
# intrinsic part of communist ideology.


Poor old Seon.. it's not as if their ATHEISM was secret! B^D

THEY OPENLY AND EXPLICITLY DECLARED IT, leaving Seon nowhere
to go, with egg on his face;

"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

"How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
- Lenin

"You know, they are fooling us, there is no God...
all this talk about God is sheer nonsense" - Stalin
- E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin,
Foreign Languages Publishing House, Moscow 1940

But it was not just the Atheism of the leadership,
but of the entire State apparatus;

The Atheist leadership's policies were implemented under
the Red Terror, via gulags and executions, the use of
every arm of the state for anti-religious propaganda
and the forced indoctrination of CHILDREN! B^[

�We do not fight against believers and not even clergymen.
WE FIGHT AGAINST GOD to snatch believers from Him.�
-Vechernaia Moskva, a Soviet newspaper

�Let us drive out the Capitalists from the earth,
and God from Heaven!� (early Soviet slogan)

"the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
- Daniel Peris,
"Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853

"Criticism of atheism was strictly forbidden"

"Between 1917 and 1940, 130,000 Orthodox priests were arrested.
In 1918, the Cheka under Felix Dzerzhinsky executed over
3000 Orthodox clergymen of all ranks.
Some were drowned in ice-holes or poured over with cold water
in winter until they turned to ice-pillars.
In 1922, the Solovki Camp of Special Purpose, the first Russian
concentration camp was established in the Solovki Islands in the White Sea"

John Shelton Curtis, The Russian Church and the Soviet State
(Boston: Little Brown, 1953)


> it is a COMMUNIST state

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAH!

NO IT ISN'T, Russia is now FREE of the Atheist Communist tyranny!

You are such an imbecile it is embarassing to watch you demonstrate
tour chronic IGNORANCE!

It WAS am atheist state.. it WAS a Soviet Socialist State (CCCP), it
WAS ruled by the communist Party, whose members were all ATHEISTs.
it DID have forced indoctrination of children in atheism.

You have not offered a SINGLE fact to dispute any of these facts!!!

Until you do, you will simply be treated with the ridicule your
idiosyncratic nonsense deserves!

Being Soviets, did not negate their Atheism or their Communism, it was
INTEGRAL.

Being Communists did not negate their Atheism, and being atheists did
not negate their Communism.. it was INTEGRAL.


It's very simple to show that Seon is a liar and a fraud;

*****************************************************
* Name any of the Politburo who were NOT ATHEISTS! *
*****************************************************

You seem to be completely IMMUNE to the facts and completely incapable
of logic!

> are you like one of those idiots who think all Muslims are personally
> responsible for 911

No because clearly 1.6 million people who had nothing to do with it
are not responsible, but I never claimed that ALL atheists are guilty
of the actions of the Atheist STATES UNDER discussion, so your argument
is both ILLOGICAL (argumentum by (FALSE) ANALOGY) but also IRRELEVANT!

You have done this before.. tried to pretend that YOUR strawman is my
argument.. it isn't

My argument is that and atheist regime was responsible for crimes
agaisnt humanity.. and I have PROOF it was a regime of ATHEISTS!!!

Your idiotic strawman is a claim that
a) it wasn't atheis, when clearly it was, root and branch.. B^] and
b) saying it was a brutal atheist tyranny is a claim that all atheists
including non Soviet, non-communist party member atheists are guilty!

That is clearly a LOGICAL fallacy. And it is YOUR logical fallacy,

and I will continue to mock and expose every one of you LYING ATHEISTS
for advancing it in your fraudulent, false, slandering bullshit attempts
to misrepresent my position! B^]


Here are the facts, it is not an invention by me, pull your
head from your arse, and try and get a clue;

# http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism#Wolak2004
#
# "State atheism is the official promotion of atheism
# by a government, typically by active suppression of
# religious freedom and practice."
# - "Protest for Religious Rights in the USSR:
# Characteristics and Consequences,
# David Kowalewski,
# Russian Review, Vol. 39, No. 4


> or that all Christians are personally responsible
> for the Crusades?

YOu are ridiculous, only the Christians involved were
responsible, just as only the atheist involved in Atheist
regimes were responsible for those tyrannies. the Critical
difference is that EVERY atheist regime has been a totalitarian
tyranny, and most religious societies have been the foundations
and inspiration of civilisation and progress.

Your complete lack of logic is laughable, I have already
eviscerated this fallacy of yours in relation to your
vile attempt to argue Collective Responsibility in
relation to Muslims, above.

Come back with any evidence opposing the vast array I
ahve presented showing that the Soviet regime were ATHEISTS,
led by an Atheist, implementing FORCED indoctrination of
Atheism into schoolchildren, killing priests and believers..
etc ad nauseum.

> Because by lying like you do

Poor Seon, you have not demonstrated a single lie by me.

All you have doen is present YOUR feeble misunderstanding
of my argument and proceeded to beat up on your OWN
illogical and irrelevant ANALOGIES.

Argument by analogy is weak, yours is terminally ill! B^D

You are exposed with NO facts disputing the ATHEIST
membership of the Ruling Politburo in the CCCP, and failing
to have any evidence of,

> resorting to slander

and

> using the same "Logic" as those morons

which YOU cited as your only argument! B^D

You cannot project YOUR flawed and illogical argument
onto others and then debate your own strawman. All you achieve is
to demonstrate WHY atheists are do MISTRUSTED and despised as
dishonest;


# From: fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au>
# Subject: Re: "Atheists Identified as America's Most
# Distrusted Minority - American Sociological_Association"
# Message-ID: <iuegm.10980$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
# Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:37:18 GMT
#
# Nataraja wrote:
# >
# > "Atheists Identified as America�s Most Distrusted Minority"
# > - American Sociological Association, ASA NEWS
#
# When you observe their behaviour in alt.atheism the
# reasons for that view are clear! B^p
#
# > "A survey by sociologists at the University of Minnesota
# > found that atheists are �America�s most distrusted minority.�
#
# You can see why!
#
# Atheism has long been tolerated in pluralist western
# democracies, where Majority Religious have built free,
# open, tolerant, rights based societies that are in stark
# contrast to the Atheist states, every one of which has been
# a totalitarian tyranny
#
# And yet atheists, as rude as they are ignorant, persist in
# deliberately offending the majority religious for some time,
# and apparently a backlash is building;
#
#
# > "From a telephone sampling of more than 2,000 households,
# > university researchers found that Americans rate atheists
# > below Muslims, recent immigrants, gays and lesbians and
# > other minority groups in �sharing their vision of
# > American society.�
# >
# > Atheists are also the minority group most Americans are
# > least willing to allow their children to marry.
#
# What an indictment of atheists, American society has traditionally
# been the Great Melting Pot, a place where Old World animosities
# dissolve and yet Atheists appear to be total rejects! 8^o
#
# > Even though atheists are few in number, not formally
# > organized and relatively hard to publicly identify,
#
# BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAA!
#
# > they are seen as a threat to the American way of life
# > by a large portion of the American public.
#
# I am beginning to agree with the mainstream.
#
# I have never met such moral defectives as the inhabitants of
# alt.atheism..
#
# I can fully understand why most people despise them.
#
# > Many of the study�s respondents associated atheism with
# > an array of moral indiscretions ranging from criminal
# > behavior to rampant materialism and cultural elitism.
# >
#
# The rabid dogmatists, forgers and frauds, lying slandering
# shitpigs, gutless apologists for atheist regimes and tools
# of Nth Korean propaganda in alt.atheism demonstrate that
# assessment to be accurate! B^p
#
#
# > Edgell believes a fear of moral decline and resulting
# > social disorder is behind the findings.
#
# A well founded fear, EVERY society in which Atheism
# has become reflected in the State has been a catastrophic
# cluster fuck, killing tens of millions of people and
# ending in TOTAL FAILURE!
#
#
# > �Americans believe they share more than rules and
# > procedures with their fellow citizens�they share an
# > understanding of right and wrong,� she said. �Our
# > findings seem to rest on a view of atheists as
# > self-interested individuals who are not concerned
# > with the common good.�
#
# All those in alt.atheism confirm that assessment.
#
# When i first arrived here I asked a couple of
# questions like "Why are there no great and enduring
# Atheist civilisations" and received vitriolic abuse,
# threats and slander from a rabid jackal-pack of
# irrational atheist thugs. I have been cleaning out the
# Augean Stable that is alt.atheism ever since.
#
# I can tell you this, anyone who has experienced the concerted
# slander and hate-fileld venom of atheists is hardly likely
# to rush to defend them when Creationist fundies kick their
# arses! B^p
#
# They really are a despised, friendless, minority cult.
#
#
#>
# > The study is co-authored by assistant professor
# > Joseph Gerteis and associate professor Doug Hartmann.
# > It�s the first in a series of national studies conducted
# > the American Mosaic Project, a three-year project funded
# > by the Minneapolis-based David Edelstein Family Foundation
# > that looks at race, religion and cultural diversity in
# > the contemporary United States."
#
# I have posted on this fascinating and accurate research before,
# no wonder atheists are a tiny despised minority who cannot
# gain any political support from people who have sussed them out!
#
#
#
# No wonder Virgil the atheist fraud and forger tries to pretend to
# be an Agnostic.. soon they all will!
#
# Apart from the liars pretending to be 'religious' in order to
# discredit and White-Ant it;
#
# @ It's Official, Atheists claim to be a persecuted RELIGION: B^D
# #
# @
# @ "THE Atheist Foundation of Australia has lodged complaints
# @ of religious discrimination in Melbourne and Hobart
# @ after being refused permission to put atheist
# @ advertising on buses." - The Age 29/1/2009
# @
# @ "atheism counts as a religion, though we say
# @ we're not one," Dr Perkins said."

>> ---------
>>
>> 95 Theses for Atheist Reformation
>>
>> All belief systems ossify over time.
>>
>> Jesus taught that Love came before politics and wealth,
>> but his church at times, regressed and pursued the latter.
>>
>> Mohammed brought revolutionary rights for women, but his
>> followers wound them back in favour of traditional male privilege.
>>
>> And atheism, once a tiny and ineffectual offshoot of Greek philosophy
>> has devolved into a series of dreadful totalitarian tyrannies.
>>
>> What is required is Reformation. In religion this is achieved by
>> progressive revelation.. the Divine CYCLE of renewal and rebirth;
>> Springtime, Summer, Autumn, Winter
>>
>> In atheism guidance must come from a lesser source;
>>
>> The Atheist Reformation Movement - ARM
>>
>> Gentleman, TO ARMs!
>>
>>
>> Cry Havoc and Let Slip the Blogs of Reform!
>>
>>
>>


--


"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest


"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6348?context=latest

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest


"How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
- Lenin

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest

http://www.c96trading.com/Nagant_NKVD_300h.jpg


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01001/Tsar-family_1001874c.jpg

Seon

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"fasgnadh" <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> the right wing slanderer and liar wrote
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Shut up you right wing fascist. You are such a liar. You accuse me of lying
yet say Stalin did the evil things he did because he was an atheist and not
because of his communist ideology. I have had it with you, you vile nasty
troll. Also why do you snip what I say? Why are you trying to censor me you
right wing fascist?

Syd

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Aug 15, 2009, 2:43:27 AM8/15/09
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On Aug 14, 9:14 pm, Morton Lucifer <"95 Theses"@atheist-

reformation.org> wrote:
> Life in the Atheist States behind the Iron Curtin was not all Torture
> and Murder, there was also soul destroying dreariness, a grey
> conformity, crumbling inefficiency and general STIFLING of the Human Spirit.
>

Oh, look... Failednuts hides behinds another ID and lies yet again.
Give it up. Your lies will not become truth no matter how many times
you repeat them.

PDW

fasgnadh

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Seon becomes hysterical when I laughed at his claim that Russia is still
communist today:

That was Seons claim, agaisnt ALL the evidence I provided showing he
was LYING;

>> Stop lying you pathetic moron, the ATHEIST LEADER of THE RULING
>> PARTY WHICH IN WHICH EVERY MEMBER WAS AN ATHEIST, says that
>> you are full of shit;
>>

>> "Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
>> -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>
>>> you lying moron
>>
>> You haven't shown ANY lie by me. B^]

He stiLL hasn't!! EVERY STATEMENT BY ME IS TRUE, Seon
can't show a lie, he is lying when he merely CLAIMS there
is one but can't quote anything by me to PROVE IT!!

>> All the evidence shows
>> that YOU are the lying atheist holocaust denier!
>>
>> Clearly we either take the word of Seon, a hysterical and irrational
>> screeching idiot WITH NO PROOF for his lies, or the ATHEIST LEADER of
>> the Soviet regime, whose membership was entirely ATHEIST, implemented
>> atheist policies, including the FORCED indoctrination of children,
>> killed priests and expropriated and destroyed churches, synagogues,
>> mosques and temples.
>>

>> No wonder it IS described, by peer-reviewed professional


>> historians, as an ATHEIST STATE;
>>
>> # "State atheism has been mostly implemented in communist
>> # countries, such as the former Soviet Union, China,
>> # Communist Albania, Communist Afghanistan, North Korea,
>> # Communist Mongolia and Poland under communist rule also
>> # promoted state atheism and suppressed religion.
>> # - Forced out: the fate of Polish Jewry in Communist Poland.
>> # Wolak, Arthur J. p 104
>> #
>> # In these nations, the governments viewed atheism as an
>> # intrinsic part of communist ideology.
>>

What does Seon say when I quote the views of Historians that show
it is a widely accepted FACT that the USSR was an ATHEIST STATE!

It doesn't mean it can't also have been Russian, it doesn't mean it
can't also have been Slav.. it doesn't mean, as Seon illogically
claims, that it can't also have been Communist, becasue Clearly Lenin
understood that atheism and Communism were INTEGRAL to their regime.

It just means that it WAS an atheist state!

Suck it up, Seon. YOu can't reweite history just to suit your own
unfounded opinions and inability to think logically and rationally!

>> Poor old Seon.. it's not as if their ATHEISM was secret! B^D
>>
>> THEY OPENLY AND EXPLICITLY DECLARED IT, leaving Seon nowhere
>> to go, with egg on his face;
>>
>> "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
>> - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

What is Seon's response to the evidence that not only HISTORIANS,
BUT THE PARTY ITSELF, AND IT'S LEADERS, say it was ATHESIT!?

He sticks his head up his arse, ignores the facts and becomes
hysterical and abusive.. then runs away! B^D

> Shut up

No Seon, it doesn't work that way, you can't silence people and
prevent them from confronting you with the facts, by screaching
hysterically that they stop torturing you with the truth! B^]

Is it because you think you are in the CCCP, where the Atheist
regime could just have dissidents SILENCED!?

Everything I have stated is true, and the test is:

YOU CAN'T REFUTE A SINGLE WORD!

You can't name a SINGLE MEMBER of the Soviet politburo who WASN'T
AN ATHEIST!!

ergo - the regime was ATHEIST!

THE CCCP was an ATHEIST state;

# http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism#Wolak2004
#
# "State atheism is the official promotion of atheism
# by a government, typically by active suppression of
# religious freedom and practice."
# - "Protest for Religious Rights in the USSR:
# Characteristics and Consequences,
# David Kowalewski,
# Russian Review, Vol. 39, No. 4

The Soviet Leaders ADMITTED they were atheists implementing
ATHEIST policies;

"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

>> "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."


>> - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>
>> "How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
>> - Lenin
>>
>> "You know, they are fooling us, there is no God...
>> all this talk about God is sheer nonsense" - Stalin
>> - E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin,
>> Foreign Languages Publishing House, Moscow 1940

> you right wing fascist.

Mindless abuse only shows how desperate your lies have become
and it reveals you have NO ARGUMENT! B^]

Game Set Match!


> You are such a liar.

I challenged you for proof and you
have provided none

The debate is mine! B^]

Run along lightweight, you have nothing to say worth listening to!

You can't show a single lie by me! But I can easily demonstrate YOU
TELLING THEM:

> You accuse me of lying yet say Stalin did the evil things he did because he was an
> atheist

Quote me saying what you claim, liar.

> and not because of his communist ideology.

Where's your quote of me saying that, Liar!? You won't have one, this
is just you making one more DESPERATE straw man distraction.

It's not an either/or proposition! Being a communist does not stop
every member of the Soviet politburo being an atheist! B^)

Lenin makes clear they are integral, every member of the Communist Party
was an atheist, if you claim you can show that their ruthless
indoctrination of children with ATHEISM is a result of their communism
rather than their atheism then PROVE IT! Like all atheists you want
to debate MOTIVES, which you cannot establish conclusively, in order
to AVOID DEBATING FACTS, because you HAVE NONE, and they are all
presented by ME!

What is clear and indisputable is what *I* have said, Every atheist
state was a brutal totali9tarian shithole.

And you are a spent force, your lies cannot be sustained, you merely
keep repeating them

> I have had it with you

Of course, I have eviscerated your lies and demonstrated you have no
facts to support your absurd opinions. There is nothing left but
to mock your intellectual dishonesty and moral cowardice.

You tried to misrepresent my views, I demolished your strawman and
now you have no argument left

And as you now say you have quit, then there is nothing
more I need to say.

I win. B^]

<snip>

fasgnadh

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Syd wrote:

> Morton Lucifer wrote:
>>
>> Life in the Atheist States behind the Iron Curtin was not all Torture
>> and Murder, there was also soul destroying dreariness, a grey
>> conformity, crumbling inefficiency and general STIFLING of the Human
>> Spirit.
>>
> Oh, look...


Another demolition of Atheist historical revisionism and
Atheist holocuast denial, and not a single atheist can refute
a single fact!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAA

What is left for the atheists?

They have lost their short lived glory during the zenith
of global atheist influence, the atheistic communist regimes
of the 20th century.

And those Godless tyrannies were such unberarable shitholes
that atheism will never be a political force again.

Their regimes crumbled, their FORCED atheist indoctrination
of children in schools and adults in Gulags and Work camps,
could not kill the spiritual impulse in human beings, and religion
in the former USSR and post-Maoist China is experiencing an
EXPLOSIVE renewal and growth.

THREE HUNDRED MILLION ex-Atheists have turned to religion in
just the past few decades!

Do you know how many times more that is than the ENTIRE
WORLD ATHEIST POPULATION!!?

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHA

Since the collapse of the atheist regimes that killed over
60,000,000 people, atheism is revealed as, at worst, the cause
of immense social misery and despair, dysfunctional government
and economic collapse.., and at BEST, the most tedious and
boring branch of Nihilism and sophistry!

What is left for atheists????

> Give it up.

Sure, but then,
What can you possibly do instead? What is as ineffectual
and useless and requires only the minimal skills required to
be an atheist?

Train-spotting in Nth Korea?

Can your skill in lying and propaganda be used in say, Advewrtising? B^D


> Your lies will not become truth no matter how many times
> you repeat them.

My truth will not become lies, no matter how many times
you deny it, especially as you never show anything I write
to be false, and offer no facts, evidence or ratioanal
argument to refute my position, or establish your own.

In short, your post is devoid of substance.

It is useful only as an opportunity for me to show that
you can refute NOTHING of the facts about the vile atheist regimes!

fasgnadh

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Seon becomes hysterical when I laughed at his claim that Russia is still
communist today:

> "fasgnadh" <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> the right wing slanderer and liar


> wrote in message news:Mwrhm.11803$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> Seon lied his stupid head off, lets eviscerate his moronic bullshit:
>>> "Morton Lucifer" <"95 Theses"@atheist-reformation.org> wrote;
>>>>
>>>> Life in the Atheist States behind the Iron Curtin was not all
>>>> Torture and Murder, there was also soul destroying dreariness, a
>>>> grey conformity, crumbling inefficiency and general STIFLING of the
>>>> Human Spirit.
>>>>
>>>> When people are not free to express their core beliefs,

>>>> they wither,and everything about the Atheist states

That was Seons claim, agaisnt ALL the evidence I provided showing he
was LYING;

>> Stop lying you pathetic moron, the ATHEIST LEADER of THE RULING


>> PARTY WHICH IN WHICH EVERY MEMBER WAS AN ATHEIST, says that
>> you are full of shit;
>>

>> "Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
>> -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>
>>> you lying moron
>>
>> You haven't shown ANY lie by me. B^]

He stiLL hasn't!! EVERY STATEMENT BY ME IS TRUE, Seon


can't show a lie, he is lying when he merely CLAIMS there
is one but can't quote anything by me to PROVE IT!!

>> All the evidence shows


>> that YOU are the lying atheist holocaust denier!
>>
>> Clearly we either take the word of Seon, a hysterical and irrational
>> screeching idiot WITH NO PROOF for his lies, or the ATHEIST
>> LEADER of the Soviet regime, whose
>> membership was entirely ATHEIST, implemented
>> atheist policies, including the FORCED indoctrination of children,
>> killed priests and expropriated and destroyed churches, synagogues,
>> mosques and temples.
>>

>> No wonder it IS described, by peer-reviewed professional


>> historians, as an ATHEIST STATE;
>>
>> # "State atheism has been mostly implemented in communist
>> # countries, such as the former Soviet Union, China,
>> # Communist Albania, Communist Afghanistan, North Korea,
>> # Communist Mongolia and Poland under communist rule also
>> # promoted state atheism and suppressed religion.
>> # - Forced out: the fate of Polish Jewry in Communist Poland.
>> # Wolak, Arthur J. p 104
>> #
>> # In these nations, the governments viewed atheism as an
>> # intrinsic part of communist ideology.
>>

What does Seon say when I quote the views of Historians that show


it is a widely accepted FACT that the USSR was an ATHEIST STATE!

It doesn't mean it can't also have been Russian, it doesn't mean it
can't also have been Slav.. it doesn't mean, as Seon illogically
claims, that it can't also have been Communist, becasue Clearly Lenin
understood that atheism and Communism were INTEGRAL to their regime.

It just means that it WAS an atheist state!

Suck it up, Seon. YOu can't reweite history just to suit your own
unfounded opinions and inability to think logically and rationally!

>> Poor old Seon.. it's not as if their ATHEISM was secret! B^D


>>
>> THEY OPENLY AND EXPLICITLY DECLARED IT, leaving Seon nowhere
>> to go, with egg on his face;
>>
>> "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
>> - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

What is Seon's response to the evidence that not only HISTORIANS,


BUT THE PARTY ITSELF, AND IT'S LEADERS, say it was ATHESIT!?

He sticks his head up his arse, ignores the facts and becomes
hysterical and abusive.. then runs away! B^D

> Shut up

No Seon, it doesn't work that way, you can't silence people and
prevent them from confronting you with the facts, by screaching
hysterically that they stop torturing you with the truth! B^]

Is it because you think you are in the CCCP, where the Atheist
regime could just have dissidents SILENCED!?

Everything I have stated is true, and the test is:

YOU CAN'T REFUTE A SINGLE WORD!

You can't name a SINGLE MEMBER of the Soviet politburo who WASN'T
AN ATHEIST!!

ergo - the regime was ATHEIST!

THE CCCP was an ATHEIST state;

# http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism#Wolak2004


#
# "State atheism is the official promotion of atheism
# by a government, typically by active suppression of
# religious freedom and practice."
# - "Protest for Religious Rights in the USSR:
# Characteristics and Consequences,
# David Kowalewski,
# Russian Review, Vol. 39, No. 4

The Soviet Leaders ADMITTED they were atheists implementing
ATHEIST policies;

"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

>> "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."


>> - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>
>> "How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
>> - Lenin
>>
>> "You know, they are fooling us, there is no God...
>> all this talk about God is sheer nonsense" - Stalin
>> - E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin,
>> Foreign Languages Publishing House, Moscow 1940

> you right wing fascist.

Mindless abuse only shows how desperate your lies have become
and it reveals you have NO ARGUMENT! B^]

Game Set Match!


> You are such a liar.

I challenged you for proof and you
have provided none

The debate is mine! B^]

Run along lightweight, you have nothing to say worth listening to!

You can't show a single lie by me! But I can easily demonstrate YOU
TELLING THEM:

> You accuse me of lying yet say Stalin did the evil things he did

because he was an
> atheist

Quote me saying what you claim, liar.

> and not because of his communist ideology.

Where's your quote of me saying that, Liar!? You won't have one, this

I win. B^]

<snip>


>>

Seon

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Murder - Stupid Atheist liar thinks Russia is still a communist country!

Lets dissect that lie.


"Life in the Atheist States behind the Iron Curtin"

As I keep telling you it was a COMMUNIST COUNTRY

"Stupid"
I can comprehend the fact that atheists are just people who don't believe in
God. You insist that all atheists are communists. You can't accept the fact
that some people just don't believe in the same thing you do.

"Atheist"
I am not an atheist. If someone lied about Muslims I would stand up to them
or Bahais or Jews. You are nothing but a bigot.

"liar"
Please show one lie I have ever made. And don't point to my changing views.
When I said those things I really believed them. My beliefs just change.

"thinks Russia is still a communist country!"
Lie number 4

Thankyou and good day.

But they were also communist and did those things because of communist
ideology which we can both admit is evil and the scourge of humanity.
You always snip this question. If you think all atheists are communists then
are all Muslims responsible for 911 or all Christians living today
responsible for the Crusades? Why do you always snip that question? And if
there not why can't you apply that same standard to atheists? Why the double
standard fasgandh?

Seon

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"fasgnadh" <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Conference_to_Review_the_Global_Vision_of_the_Holocaust
Yeah because Iran is such a atheist country *rolls eyes*

fasgnadh

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Seon Simpleton finally goes completely insane: B^D

Poor Seon, his humiliation has driven him completely insane!

Not only does he think Russia is STILL an atheistic communist state;

"it is a COMMUNIST state" - Seon this thread,

..but now he has COMPLETELY CONFUSED the ATHEIST holocausts
(in the USSR and Maoist China which is the topic under discussion), with
the much smaller, but just as evil Nazi holocaust.. what an ignorant
twat Seon is;

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Conference_to_Review_the_Global_Vision_of_the_Holocaust

Er, WRONG HOLOCAUSTS, DIMWIT! It has been clear, from the outset
of this discussion, that it is the 60,000,000 killed in the
USSR, Maoist China and Pol Pots Cambodian genocide.. ALL ATHEIST
STATES, that we are discussion. No one said anything about OTHER
holocausts, you raving lunatic!!! B^p

> Yeah because Iran is such a atheist country

No, you are wrong there as well, Simpleton, Iran is
an Islamofascist Theocracy, run by some fundie Imams.

> *rolls eyes*

Why are your eyes rolling Seon, are you having a seizure?

That would explain your babbling and incoherence! B^]

In what way do you think your example of Ahmadinnerjacket's
denial of the Nazi holocaust has any relevance on the atheist
denial of the 60,000,000 people terrorised tortured and murdered
in the atheist states, the USSR, China and Pol Pots Cambodia!

Oh, that's right, YOU HAVE NO FACTS AND NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT
TO DISPUTE THE TRUTH, so you are posting irrelevancies as an
attempted distraction!

Do you really think you are fooling anyone with such a pitiful,
transparent strategem? Or am I crediting you with too much
intelligence, and you are not attempting a diversion, you are simply
a brainless cretin!

Oh look, timely laughter; B^D

Sla#s

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Morton Lucifer" <"95 Theses wrote:

<SNIP>


> and everything about the Atheist states was second, third fifth rate.


Well here in Europe the most atheist states are the most civilised. Denmark,
Norway, Sweden.

The reason the CCCP was such a shit hole was because it was a totalitarian
communist state - it was nothing to do with religion. Though many would say
the way they applied communism could be described as religious.

Slatts


fasgnadh

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Seon can't escape his lies and idiocy:
>> He still hasn't!! EVERY STATEMENT BY ME IS TRUE, Seon

>> can't show a lie, he is lying when he merely CLAIMS there
>> is one but can't quote anything by me to PROVE IT!!
>>
> Life in the Atheist States behind the Iron Curtin was not all Torture
> and Murder - Stupid Atheist liar thinks Russia is still a communist
> country!
>
> Lets dissect that

Ok, You ARE the stupid atheist liar who said
"it is a communist country." (present tense)

# From: "Seon" <se...@notmyrealaddress.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.agnosticism,alt.politics.republicans,
# uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,aus.religion
# Subject: Re: Life in the Atheist States behind the Iron Curtin
# was not all Torture and Murder
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:28:31 +1000
Message-ID: <4a860f40$0$22798$5a62...@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>
#
# It wasn't a atheist state you lying moron it is a COMMUNIST state.


BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAAA

You can't even get the BASIC FACTS straight! B^]

The atheist states, the USSR, Maoist China and Pol Pots Cambodia
WERE (past tense ;-) all atheistic communist regimes, but have all
abandoned state Atheism because it was a DISMAL FAILURE and tens of
millions of people died - the Atheist holocausts! (not to be confused,
as you keep doing, with the Nazi one ;-)

EVERY ATHEIST STATE HAS BEEN A TOTALITARIAN SHITHOLE and A HOLOCAUST
of torture, terror and DEATH!

Indisputable fact, yet Seon Simpleton, the atheist liar
persists in holocaust denial, no more credible and just as
evil and dishonourable as Nazi holocaust denial or that of
Iran's Ahmadinnerjacket!

Seon is is in very ugly company! B^p

And he just keeps digging the hole he is in, deeper with every


> lie.
> "Life in the Atheist States behind the Iron Curtin"

> As I keep telling you it was a COMMUNIST COUNTRY

No, you are LYING again! You said it *IS* a communist country!

Which country is that, Seon,

Are you LYING again or are you just FUCKED IN THE HEAD! B^)

> "Stupid"

More than stupid, you lying, slandering shitpig...
but we no longer expect anything better from you.

You have arrogantly postured and fell flat on your face,
revealing your immense ignorance, so many times that no
one takes anything you say seriously any more! B^p

I am the only kind soul that bothers to correct your endless idiocies.

Now lets deal with your other lies, absurdities and insanities:

> You insist that all atheists are communists.

No, I don't.
You are lying.

I have called you on this before and you cannot offer any proof of me
ever saying that all atheists are communists! B^]

I have never said any such thing.

I have explicitly denied it everytime you atheist liars
have claimed it! B^)

And not ONE of you dishonest slanderers have ever provided a
quote.

Why not Seon? If it existed you could embarrass me,
and be a Hero to all the other Atheists in your cult!

But you can't because you are ALL LIARS! B^]


It's your straw-man Seon, you just keep stuffing it!

http://mikeely.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/strawman2.jpg

Poor Seon

> "thinks Russia is still a communist country!"


BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAH!


# From: "Seon" <se...@notmyrealaddress.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.agnosticism,alt.politics.republicans,
# uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,aus.religion
# Subject: Re: Life in the Atheist States behind the Iron Curtin
# was not all Torture and Murder
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:28:31 +1000
Message-ID: <4a860f40$0$22798$5a62...@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>
#
# It wasn't a atheist state you lying moron it is a COMMUNIST state.

Name it, Seon! Tell us this Iron Curtin Communist State in 2009! B^D

That really was STUPID!!!! B^D

Now FOAD, you stupid LYING twonk!

Even a craven apology will not redeem you now! B^]

> Thankyou and good day.

You are welcome, you deserved to have your arse kicked
up and down Usenet

fasgnadh

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Sla#s reveals he has no idea what an Atheist State is;

> Morton Lucifer wrote:
>>
>> Life in the Atheist States behind the Iron Curtin was not all Torture
>> and Murder, there was also soul destroying dreariness, a grey
>> conformity, crumbling inefficiency and general STIFLING of the Human
>> Spirit.
>>
>> When people are not free to express their core beliefs, they wither,
>> and everything about the Atheist states was second, third fifth rate.
>>
> Well here in Europe the most atheist states are

There are no Atheist states in Europe.

> the most civilised.

Who says, evidence please!

Denmark ranks 13th on the UN's HDI - the Development Index,
after France and Ireland, Switzerland, Luxembourg and Finland

> Denmark,

According to the most recent Eurobarometer Survey, only 19%
of Danes said that "they do not believe there is any sort of spirit,
god, or life force".

It's NOT an Atheist state! B^]

"According to official statistics from January 2009, 81.5% of the
population of Denmark are members of the Lutheran state church, the
Danish National Church (Den Danske Folkekirke), which is established by
the Constitution."

http://www.km.dk/folkekirken/statistik-og-oekonomi/kirkestatistik.html

"If immigrants and descendants of immigrants are excluded from the
statistics, the member rate is even higher, approximately 90.3%.
According to article 6 of the Constitution, the Royal Family must belong
to this Church, though the rest of the population is free to adhere to
other faiths."

Atheist State? BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAA!

"Denmark's Muslims make up more than 4% of the population and the
country's second largest religious community.[89] The oldest
state-recognised religious societies and churches are the following:

* Roman Catholicism, recognised by the state since 1682
* The Reformed Church, recognised by the state since 1682.
* Judaism, recognised by the state since 1682."

"Religious societies and churches do not need to be state-recognised in
Denmark and can be granted the right to perform weddings and other
ceremonies without this recognition."

Clearly NOT an Atheist State.

You don't seem to know what one is, despite being given examples
of them many times! B^[

# "State atheism is the official promotion of atheism
# by a government, typically by active suppression of
# religious freedom and practice."
# - "Protest for Religious Rights in the USSR:
# Characteristics and Consequences,
# David Kowalewski,

# Russian Review, Vol. 39, No. 4 (Oct., 1980), pp. 426-441,

"The national flag of Denmark, Dannebrog, is red with a white
Scandinavian cross. Dannebrog is the oldest state flag in
the world still in use, The legend states the origin of the
flag to the Battle of Lyndanisse, also known as the Battle
of Valdemar (Danish: "Volmerslaget"), near Lyndanisse (Tallinn)
in Estonia, on June 15, 1219.

The battle was going badly, and defeat seemed imminent.
But then, right when the Danes were about to give up,
the flag fell from heaven. Grasping the flag before it
could ever touch the ground, the king took it in his hand,
and proudly waved it in front of his discouraged troops,
giving them hope, and leading them to victory.

The myth is clear. The flag, Dannebrog was given to the
Danes from God himself, and from that day forward, it
was the flag of Denmark, and the Danish kings." B^D

And Slutts calls that an Atheist state? BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHA!

# "the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
# - Daniel Peris,
# "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
# Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
#
#


# "State atheism has been mostly implemented in communist

# countries, such as the former Soviet Union,[1] China,


# Communist Albania, Communist Afghanistan, North Korea,
# Communist Mongolia and Poland under communist rule also
# promoted state atheism and suppressed religion.
# - Forced out: the fate of Polish Jewry in Communist Poland.
# Wolak, Arthur J. p 104
#
# In these nations, the governments viewed atheism as an
# intrinsic part of communist ideology.


> Norway,

"Religion in Norway is overwhelmingly Protestant (Evangelical-Lutheran)
with 82.7% belonging to the state Evangelical Lutheran Church of Norway"

According to the most recent Eurobarometer Survey, only 17%
of Danes said that "they do not believe there is any sort of spirit,
god, or life force".

> Sweden.

"Since the Protestant Reformation in the 1530s, the country is Lutheran,
with the Church of Sweden (Swedish: Svenska kyrkan) being allowed the
status of state church until 2000. As of 2007, 74.3% of the Swedes were
members of the church."

"Religious education covering all major world religions is compulsory in
public schools. Parents may send their children to independent religious
schools, all of which receive government subsidies, provided they adhere
to government guidelines on core academic curriculum."
- "International Religious Freedom Report 2006 - Sweden".
U.S. Department of State - Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights,
and Labor. 2006. http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2006/71410.htm.

"According to the most recent Eurobarometer Survey, only 23%
of Danes said that "they do not believe there is any sort of spirit,
god, or life force".


> The reason the CCCP was such a shit hole was because it was a
> totalitarian communist state

It's leader and the members of the ruling party were all Atheists,
it implemented Atheist policies including the FORCED INDOCTRINATION
of Children and it was one of the Atheist States;

"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

# http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism#Wolak2004


#
# "State atheism is the official promotion of atheism
# by a government, typically by active suppression of
# religious freedom and practice."
# - "Protest for Religious Rights in the USSR:
# Characteristics and Consequences,
# David Kowalewski,

# Russian Review, Vol. 39, No. 4 (Oct., 1980), pp. 426-441,
#
#
# "An atheist, Pol Pot suppressed Cambodia�s Buddhist religion:
# monks were defrocked; temples and artifacts, including statues of
# Buddha, were destroyed; and people praying or expressing
# other religious sentiments were often killed.
# ...the government emptied the cities through mass evacuations
# and sent people to the countryside. Cambodians were overworked
# and underfed on collective farms, often succumbing to disease or
# starvation as a result. Spouses were separated and family meals
# prohibited in order to steer loyalties toward the state
# instead of the family.
#
# About 1.7 million Cambodians, or about 20 percent of the population,
# were worked, starved, or beaten to death under Pol Pot�s regime."
# - http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761579038/pol_pot.html
#
# The Cambodian Genocide:
http://www.lietuvos.net/istorija/communism/communism_photos2/392millones.jpg

#
# "The country's 40,000 to 60,000 Buddhist monks,
# regarded by the regime as social parasites,
# were defrocked and forced into labor brigades.
# Many monks were executed; temples and pagodas were
# destroyed or turned into storehouses or jails.
# Images of the Buddha were defaced and dumped into
# rivers and lakes. People who were discovered praying
# or expressing religious sentiments in other ways
# were often killed.
#
# The Christian and Muslim communities were among the most
# persecuted, as well. The Roman Catholic cathedral of
# Phnom Penh was completely razed.
#
# The Khmer Rouge forced Muslims to eat pork, which they
# regard as an abomination. Many of those who refused were killed.
# Christian clergy and Muslim imams were executed."
# - http://countrystudies.us/cambodia/29.htm
#
# "Forty-eight percent of Cambodia's Christians were killed
# because of their religion."
#
http://www.lietuvos.net/istorija/communism/communism_photos2/44camboyano.jpg
#
#
# "the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
# - Daniel Peris,
# "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
# Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
#
#


# "State atheism has been mostly implemented in communist

# countries, such as the former Soviet Union,[1] China,


# Communist Albania, Communist Afghanistan, North Korea,
# Communist Mongolia and Poland under communist rule also
# promoted state atheism and suppressed religion.
# - Forced out: the fate of Polish Jewry in Communist Poland.
# Wolak, Arthur J. p 104
#
# In these nations, the governments viewed atheism as an
# intrinsic part of communist ideology.

> - it was nothing to do with religion.

OF course not, religion was certainly not to blame for the Atheist
state's terror torture and murder of over 60,000,000 people.

You atheists hold Christianity responsible for the Crusades, and the
inquisition, although by comparison to the atheist holocausts they were
Sunday School Picnics, so you must hold all the Atheists in the
Politburo (and they were ALL Atheists! 8^o) for the crimes committed
by the Atheist regime.

The difference is, you atheists typically illegitimately extrapolate the
acts of the medieval church to ALL CHRISTIANITY in ALL TIMES, and even
to damn ALL RELIGION!

That is a fallacy, the evil doctrine of Collective Responsibility!

(If the IRA bomb a pub, you blame all Catholics or even all Christians
or even all Religious.)

I hold the ATHEIST REGIMES responsible for their acts and EVERY ATHESIT
Regime

> Slatts


Another fifth rate atheist 'intellect' (sic)


--

"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

"How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
- Lenin

"You know, they are fooling us, there is no God...
all this talk about God is sheer nonsense" - Stalin
- E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin,
Foreign Languages Publishing House, Moscow 1940

But it was not just the Atheism of the leadership,


but of the entire State apparatus;

The Atheist leadership's policies were implemented under

the red Terror, via gulags and executions, the use of

.

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Annapurna is very angry at me because I farted in the kitchen.


I blame it on the Atheists.

fasgnadh

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. wrote:

And, to top that, a SIXTH rate atheist 'intellect'(sic); B^D

> Annapurna is very angry at me because I farted in the kitchen.
>
> I blame it on the Atheists.


You shouldn't have let them all ream your arse, butt boy!

Get Child abuse onto them!

--


"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest


"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6348?context=latest

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest


"How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
- Lenin

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest

http://www.c96trading.com/Nagant_NKVD_300h.jpg


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01001/Tsar-family_1001874c.jpg

Syd

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> Another demolition of Failednuts hysterical lies and hatred.

Failednuts, you couldn't demolish a fifth of whisky.

PDW

Syd

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On Aug 15, 5:48 am, "Seon" <s...@notmyrealaddress.com> wrote:
> "fasgnadh" <fasgn...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message

>
> news:17uhm.11839$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> > Seon becomes hysterical when I laughed at his claim that Russia is still
> > communist today:
>
> >> "fasgnadh" <fasgn...@yahoo.com.au> the right wing slanderer and liar
> >> wrote in messagenews:Mwrhm.11803$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > #http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism#Wolak2004

> > #
> > # "State atheism is the official promotion of atheism
> > # by a government, typically by active suppression of
> > # religious freedom and practice."
> > #     - "Protest for Religious Rights in the USSR:
> > #       Characteristics and Consequences,
> > #        David Kowalewski,
> > #        Russian Review, Vol. 39, No. 4
>
> > The Soviet Leaders ADMITTED they were atheists implementing
> > ATHEIST policies;
>
> >  "Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
> >    -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>
> > >> "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
> > >>     - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>
> > >> "How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
> > >>     - Lenin
>
> > >> "You know, they are fooling us, there is no God...
> > >> all this talk about God is sheer nonsense" - Stalin
> > >>    -  E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin,
> > >>       Foreign Languages Publishing House, Moscow 1940
>
> >> you right wing fascist.
>
> > Mindless abuse only shows how desperate your lies have become
> > and
>
> ...
>
> read more »

Forget it, Seon; Failednuts is so wrapped up in his hysterical hatred
of us that he'll just ignore anything and everything you post to
scream his lies and hatred again.
He's just not open to any new information.

PDW

magicus

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That may well be the case AND when was a fifth of whiskey last produced?
In the USA we went metric WRT liquor somewhere in the early '80s.

Just Sayin'... :-P

ciao,
f

--
How did you hurt your back? Running away from good taste?
-- Karen Walker

Syd

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Aug 15, 2009, 4:23:23 PM8/15/09
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On Aug 15, 3:59 pm, magicus <REMOVEmagicus23T...@gmail.com> wrote:

Well, Failednuts is too dumb to even try one, let alone be able to
demolish one.

PDW

Seon

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Aug 15, 2009, 8:09:53 PM8/15/09
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I don't deny millions were murdered but that is an example of your
hypocrisy. You go on about how atheists are so evil because they deny it yet
when Muslims deny the holocaust they are just fascists. Well they are
fascists but they are Muslims. Thanks for highlighting your hypocrisy troll.

"fasgnadh" <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message

news:eGxhm.11884$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

Seon

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Aug 15, 2009, 8:06:57 PM8/15/09
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Well I'm done with you snipping my question. Welcome to my plonk bin liar.
And "It wasn't a atheist state you lying moron" is in past tense. I'm done
talking to a hateful bigot like you. I will pray that you become tolerant
but until that day I am done with you trying to censor me.

"fasgnadh" <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> fasgnadh can't escape his hypocrisy and
double standards and wrote in message
news:9wzhm.11899$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> fasgnadh can't escape his lies and idiocy:

Sla#s

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Aug 16, 2009, 7:59:18 AM8/16/09
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fasgnadh wrote:

A 16 kb post so bloody long and full of twisted nonsense that I couldn't be
bothered to work my way through his accumulated detritus to figure out what
the hell he was going on about.

Slatts

fasgnadh

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Aug 16, 2009, 10:45:05 AM8/16/09
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Sla#s wrote:

> fasgnadh wrote:
>> Sla#s reveals he has no idea what an Atheist State is;

>>>> ---------


>>>>
>>>> 95 Theses for Atheist Reformation
>>>>
>>>> All belief systems ossify over time.
>>>>
>>>> Jesus taught that Love came before politics and wealth,
>>>> but his church at times, regressed and pursued the latter.
>>>>
>>>> Mohammed brought revolutionary rights for women, but his
>>>> followers wound them back in favour of traditional male privilege.
>>>>
>>>> And atheism, once a tiny and ineffectual offshoot of Greek philosophy
>>>> has devolved into a series of dreadful totalitarian tyrannies.
>>>>
>>>> What is required is Reformation. In religion this is achieved by
>>>> progressive revelation.. the Divine CYCLE of renewal and rebirth;
>>>> Springtime, Summer, Autumn, Winter
>>>>
>>>> In atheism guidance must come from a lesser source;
>>>>
>>>> The Atheist Reformation Movement - ARM
>>>>
>>>> Gentleman, TO ARMs!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cry Havoc and Let Slip the Blogs of Reform!
>>>
>>> Well here in Europe the most atheist states are
>>
>> There are no Atheist states in Europe.


The evidence follows, but Slut, having read it, realises
that his lies and bullshit have been thoroughly refuted
and so he does the Atheist Two-Step: Snip'n'Run! B^D


> I couldn't be bothered

Translation, I was right, he's a fifth rate 'intellect' B^]

>>
>>> Denmark,
>>
>> According to the most recent Eurobarometer Survey, only 19%
>> of Danes said that "they do not believe there is any sort of spirit,
>> god, or life force".

ergo: It's NOT an Atheist state! B^]


None of Stut's 'examples' are Atheist states.

Slut is just anotehr Lying Atheist Fuckwit.

Are there any other kinds of atheists in Usenet? B^p

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http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest


"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6348?context=latest

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest


"How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
- Lenin

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01001/Tsar-family_1001874c.jpg

Sla#s

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Aug 16, 2009, 7:29:16 PM8/16/09
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fasgnadh wrote:
> Sla#s wrote:
>> fasgnadh wrote:
>>> Sla#s reveals he has no idea what an Atheist State is;

Goebbels was wrong! Continually repeating a lie doesn't stop it being a lie.

The more atheist a country becomes higher its quality of life, (or possibly
vice versa). Religion seems to be a reaction to misery. Just look at the
poorer and less educated populations and they are more likely to be
religious. The better educated and the higher the quality of life the more
likely they are to be non religious.

As has been posted here over the last few months the non religious are
happier, have a higher IQ, are less likely to be criminal inclined, have
fewer divorces, use less porn, are more mentally stable and have a better
quality of life.

Slatts


Syd

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Aug 17, 2009, 3:40:03 PM8/17/09
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Oh, it's just his usual 'atheists are linked to communism and eeevil!'
nonsense.
Nothing to do with reality, really.

PDW

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