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BOZ
Dec 19, 2016, 2:20:27 PM12/19/16
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Though Oswald was probably more politically oriented than all thirteen
other warehousemen at the Book Depository Building put together, if we are
to believe Oswald’s story, he apparently was the only one who had
no interest at all in watching the presidential motorcade go by, either
from out on the street or froma window, claiming in one version that he
was having lunch on the first floor of the Book Depository Building at the
time of the shooting, and in another version that he was working on the
sixth floor. Indeed, Oswald, the political animal, was so uninterested in
the fact that the most powerful politician on earth had just been shot
that he had no inclination to stick around for a few minutes and engage in
conversation with his coworkers about the sensational and tragic event.
Does that make any sense?
V Bugliosi Reclaiming History
other warehousemen at the Book Depository Building put together, if we are
to believe Oswald’s story, he apparently was the only one who had
no interest at all in watching the presidential motorcade go by, either
from out on the street or froma window, claiming in one version that he
was having lunch on the first floor of the Book Depository Building at the
time of the shooting, and in another version that he was working on the
sixth floor. Indeed, Oswald, the political animal, was so uninterested in
the fact that the most powerful politician on earth had just been shot
that he had no inclination to stick around for a few minutes and engage in
conversation with his coworkers about the sensational and tragic event.
Does that make any sense?
V Bugliosi Reclaiming History
stevemg...@yahoo.com
Dec 20, 2016, 10:27:37 AM12/20/16
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Of course there isn't a lick of evidence to this - Oswald himself said he
knew nothing about the shooting - but creating fantasies about the
assassination is far more fun than just recognizing the reality that one
pathetic individual could change history.
Sorry, the universe doesn't make sense. An innocent child gets cancer; a
horrible person never gets sick. It makes no sense at all.
Anthony Marsh
Dec 20, 2016, 10:34:25 AM12/20/16
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donald willis
Dec 20, 2016, 6:03:46 PM12/20/16
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On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 11:20:27 AM UTC-8, BOZ wrote:
> Though Oswald was probably more politically oriented than all thirteen
> other warehousemen at the Book Depository Building put together, if we are
> to believe Oswald’s story, he apparently was the only one who had
> no interest at all in watching the presidential motorcade go by
What about Jack Dougherty, who was on the 5th floor near the elevators at
> Though Oswald was probably more politically oriented than all thirteen
> other warehousemen at the Book Depository Building put together, if we are
> to believe Oswald’s story, he apparently was the only one who had
> no interest at all in watching the presidential motorcade go by
the time the limo passed? Also, Danny Arce said he was out front
watching, but apparently no one can verify that....
donald willis
Dec 20, 2016, 8:26:52 PM12/20/16
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believe, near where a friend worked.
claviger
Dec 20, 2016, 8:33:55 PM12/20/16
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absolutely nothing to do with the assassination of President Kennedy. He
came back to work after the lockdown was lifted, talked to a Police
Officer, and gave a statement. Why do you keep trying to blame a black
employee? Do we need to hire Atticus Finch to defend Charles Givens from
your slander?
claviger
Dec 20, 2016, 9:44:38 PM12/20/16
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On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 at 9:34:25 AM UTC-6, Anthony Marsh wrote:
http://www.jmasland.com/wctestimony/tsbd/givens.htm
BOZ
Dec 21, 2016, 8:22:07 PM12/21/16
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Mr. DOUGHERTY - It sounded like it came from overhead somewhere.
Mr. BALL - From overhead?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Yes.
BOZ
Dec 21, 2016, 8:23:00 PM12/21/16
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On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 at 7:03:46 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote:
standing in front of the Texas School Book Depository. I was on that
grassy area part in front. … The other guys … were all in
front of the building” (Warren Commission Hearings, vol.6, pp.365)
Anthony Marsh
Dec 21, 2016, 8:28:52 PM12/21/16
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I was the only one who showed where Euins really was, not where he said
he was.
Anthony Marsh
Dec 21, 2016, 9:19:39 PM12/21/16
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On 12/20/2016 8:33 PM, claviger wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 at 9:34:25 AM UTC-6, Anthony Marsh wrote:
>> On 12/19/2016 2:20 PM, BOZ wrote:
>>> Though Oswald was probably more politically oriented than all thirteen
>>> other warehousemen at the Book Depository Building put together, if we are
>>> to believe Oswald’s story, he apparently was the only one who had
>>> no interest at all in watching the presidential motorcade go by, either
>>> from out on the street or froma window, claiming in one version that he
>>> was having lunch on the first floor of the Book Depository Building at the
>>> time of the shooting, and in another version that he was working on the
>>> sixth floor. Indeed, Oswald, the political animal, was so uninterested in
>>> the fact that the most powerful politician on earth had just been shot
>>> that he had no inclination to stick around for a few minutes and engage in
>>> conversation with his coworkers about the sensational and tragic event.
>>> Does that make any sense?
>>>
>>> V Bugliosi Reclaiming History
>>
>> Givens?
>
> What about Givens? We know where he was, who he was with, and he had
> absolutely nothing to do with the assassination of President Kennedy. He
I never accused Givens of being a shooter. It's just that you don't
> On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 at 9:34:25 AM UTC-6, Anthony Marsh wrote:
>> On 12/19/2016 2:20 PM, BOZ wrote:
>>> Though Oswald was probably more politically oriented than all thirteen
>>> other warehousemen at the Book Depository Building put together, if we are
>>> to believe Oswald’s story, he apparently was the only one who had
>>> no interest at all in watching the presidential motorcade go by, either
>>> from out on the street or froma window, claiming in one version that he
>>> was having lunch on the first floor of the Book Depository Building at the
>>> time of the shooting, and in another version that he was working on the
>>> sixth floor. Indeed, Oswald, the political animal, was so uninterested in
>>> the fact that the most powerful politician on earth had just been shot
>>> that he had no inclination to stick around for a few minutes and engage in
>>> conversation with his coworkers about the sensational and tragic event.
>>> Does that make any sense?
>>>
>>> V Bugliosi Reclaiming History
>>
>> Givens?
>
> What about Givens? We know where he was, who he was with, and he had
> absolutely nothing to do with the assassination of President Kennedy. He
apply the same standars. The police put out an APB on Givens, by name.
> came back to work after the lockdown was lifted, talked to a Police
> Officer, and gave a statement. Why do you keep trying to blame a black
> employee? Do we need to hire Atticus Finch to defend Charles Givens from
> your slander?
>
stevemg...@yahoo.com
Dec 21, 2016, 9:47:49 PM12/21/16
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Mr. BALL. Was he ]Oswald] the only man missing?
Mr. TRULY. The only one I noticed at that time. Now, I think there was one
or two more, possibly Charles Givens, but I had seen him out in front
walking up the street just before the firing of the gun.
Mr. BALL. But walking which way?
Mr. TRULY. The last time I saw him, he was walking across Houston Street,
east on Elm.
This has been gone over before. He'll ignore it again because....well, we
know why.
David Von Pein
Dec 21, 2016, 10:08:21 PM12/21/16
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On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 2:20:27 PM UTC-5, BOZ wrote:
Interestingly, although this [aaj] post already has over half a dozen
responses, and these include alleged critics, not a single person has
pointed out Bugliosi's lie.
IT'S A LIE that Oswald ever stated that he was on the 6th floor during the
shooting. There's no citation given, and none available.
So if you want the truth, alt.assassination.jfk, a censored forum run by
"Professor" John McAdams, probably isn't the place you want to go.
http://conspiracyjfkforum.com/Thread-Alt-assassination-jfk-Any-Honesty?pid=1704#pid1704
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Ben Holmes, as usual, is wrong. A source most certainly is "available" for
Bugliosi's quote. And two sources *are* provided by Mr. Bugliosi for that
information, with both sources being traced back to Harry Holmes.
Does Ben Holmes *really* think Vince Bugliosi just MADE UP the stuff
quoted by BOZ in post #1 of this thread? The source just wasn't provided
by BOZ in this aaj thread. That's all.
More here....
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1214.html
Anthony Marsh
Dec 22, 2016, 4:56:53 PM12/22/16
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On 12/21/2016 10:08 PM, David Von Pein wrote:
> On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 2:20:27 PM UTC-5, BOZ wrote:
>> Though Oswald was probably more politically oriented than all thirteen
>> other warehousemen at the Book Depository Building put together, if we are
>> to believe Oswald???s story, he apparently was the only one who had
> On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 2:20:27 PM UTC-5, BOZ wrote:
>> Though Oswald was probably more politically oriented than all thirteen
>> other warehousemen at the Book Depository Building put together, if we are
>> no interest at all in watching the presidential motorcade go by, either
>> from out on the street or froma window, claiming in one version that he
>> was having lunch on the first floor of the Book Depository Building at the
>> time of the shooting, and in another version that he was working on the
>> sixth floor. Indeed, Oswald, the political animal, was so uninterested in
>> the fact that the most powerful politician on earth had just been shot
>> that he had no inclination to stick around for a few minutes and engage in
>> conversation with his coworkers about the sensational and tragic event.
>> Does that make any sense?
>>
>> V Bugliosi Reclaiming History
>
> BEN HOLMES SAID:
>
> Interestingly, although this [aaj] post already has over half a dozen
> responses, and these include alleged critics, not a single person has
> pointed out Bugliosi's lie.
>
> IT'S A LIE that Oswald ever stated that he was on the 6th floor during the
> shooting. There's no citation given, and none available.
>
> So if you want the truth, alt.assassination.jfk, a censored forum run by
> "Professor" John McAdams, probably isn't the place you want to go.
>
> http://conspiracyjfkforum.com/Thread-Alt-assassination-jfk-Any-Honesty?pid=1704#pid1704
>
>
> DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
>
> Ben Holmes, as usual, is wrong. A source most certainly is "available" for
> Bugliosi's quote. And two sources *are* provided by Mr. Bugliosi for that
> information, with both sources being traced back to Harry Holmes.
>
Most people don't even know that Bugliosi included a CD full of sources
>> from out on the street or froma window, claiming in one version that he
>> was having lunch on the first floor of the Book Depository Building at the
>> time of the shooting, and in another version that he was working on the
>> sixth floor. Indeed, Oswald, the political animal, was so uninterested in
>> the fact that the most powerful politician on earth had just been shot
>> that he had no inclination to stick around for a few minutes and engage in
>> conversation with his coworkers about the sensational and tragic event.
>> Does that make any sense?
>>
>> V Bugliosi Reclaiming History
>
> BEN HOLMES SAID:
>
> Interestingly, although this [aaj] post already has over half a dozen
> responses, and these include alleged critics, not a single person has
> pointed out Bugliosi's lie.
>
> IT'S A LIE that Oswald ever stated that he was on the 6th floor during the
> shooting. There's no citation given, and none available.
>
> So if you want the truth, alt.assassination.jfk, a censored forum run by
> "Professor" John McAdams, probably isn't the place you want to go.
>
> http://conspiracyjfkforum.com/Thread-Alt-assassination-jfk-Any-Honesty?pid=1704#pid1704
>
>
> DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
>
> Ben Holmes, as usual, is wrong. A source most certainly is "available" for
> Bugliosi's quote. And two sources *are* provided by Mr. Bugliosi for that
> information, with both sources being traced back to Harry Holmes.
>
with his book. Of course you won't put it up on your Web site so that
people can look up things themselves. Do you even have his CD? Do you know
anyone who does who is clever enough to know how to make copies of CD's?
> Does Ben Holmes *really* think Vince Bugliosi just MADE UP the stuff
> quoted by BOZ in post #1 of this thread? The source just wasn't provided
> by BOZ in this aaj thread. That's all.
>
time. It's called Hubris.
> More here....
> http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1214.html
>
Anthony Marsh
Dec 22, 2016, 4:59:29 PM12/22/16
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WHile I've quoted it millions of times?
donald willis
Dec 22, 2016, 10:21:40 PM12/22/16
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Main hoping to find Givens & whoever he was with, maybe Oswald. The
sightings of Oswald on the 4th, 3rd, 2nd, and various parts of the 1st
floor of the depository (front, stock room, domino room) are beginning to
make me think of the ongoing sightings of Elvis. Maybe Oswald wasn't in
the building at all....
dcw
donald willis
Dec 22, 2016, 10:22:13 PM12/22/16
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downstairs during the commotion and that he ran into a policeman at the
front door of the building. Could Oswald indeed have been on the 6th
floor at 12:30 and run into Baker at the front door?
dcw
Ace Kefford
Dec 23, 2016, 11:11:01 AM12/23/16
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On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 2:20:27 PM UTC-5, BOZ wrote:
David Von Pein
Dec 23, 2016, 4:53:09 PM12/23/16
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W. ANTHONY MARSH SAID:
Most people don't even know that Bugliosi included a CD full of sources
with his book. .... Do you even have his CD?
Most people don't even know that Bugliosi included a CD full of sources
DAVID R. VON PEIN SAID:
You decide, Tony....
http://reclaiminghistory.blogspot.com
Jason Burke
Dec 23, 2016, 11:00:47 PM12/23/16
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bullets into JFK.
Deal with it, and move on with your life.
BOZ
Dec 23, 2016, 11:53:53 PM12/23/16
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Amjateur!
Anthony Marsh
Dec 24, 2016, 11:21:33 AM12/24/16
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> dcw
>
Anthony Marsh
Dec 24, 2016, 11:21:54 AM12/24/16
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On 12/22/2016 10:21 PM, donald willis wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 5:28:52 PM UTC-8, Anthony Marsh wrote:
>> On 12/20/2016 8:26 PM, donald willis wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 at 7:34:25 AM UTC-8, Anthony Marsh wrote:
>>>> On 12/19/2016 2:20 PM, BOZ wrote:
>>>>> Though Oswald was probably more politically oriented than all thirteen
>>>>> other warehousemen at the Book Depository Building put together, if we are
>>>>> to believe Oswald???s story, he apparently was the only one who had
> On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 5:28:52 PM UTC-8, Anthony Marsh wrote:
>> On 12/20/2016 8:26 PM, donald willis wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 at 7:34:25 AM UTC-8, Anthony Marsh wrote:
>>>> On 12/19/2016 2:20 PM, BOZ wrote:
>>>>> Though Oswald was probably more politically oriented than all thirteen
>>>>> other warehousemen at the Book Depository Building put together, if we are
>>>>> no interest at all in watching the presidential motorcade go by, either
>>>>> from out on the street or froma window, claiming in one version that he
>>>>> was having lunch on the first floor of the Book Depository Building at the
>>>>> time of the shooting, and in another version that he was working on the
>>>>> sixth floor. Indeed, Oswald, the political animal, was so uninterested in
>>>>> the fact that the most powerful politician on earth had just been shot
>>>>> that he had no inclination to stick around for a few minutes and engage in
>>>>> conversation with his coworkers about the sensational and tragic event.
>>>>> Does that make any sense?
>>>>>
>>>>> V Bugliosi Reclaiming History
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Givens?
>>>
>>> Apparently, he went to watch the show somewhere down on Main, at Record I
>>> believe, near where a friend worked.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Apparently? Prove it. SHow me in a photo or film.
>
> I don't have to prove "apparently". I have looked at the crowd photos on
> Main hoping to find Givens & whoever he was with, maybe Oswald. The
> sightings of Oswald on the 4th, 3rd, 2nd, and various parts of the 1st
> floor of the depository (front, stock room, domino room) are beginning to
> make me think of the ongoing sightings of Elvis. Maybe Oswald wasn't in
> the building at all....
>
Do you have any films or photos of the Domino Room at the time of the
>>>>> from out on the street or froma window, claiming in one version that he
>>>>> was having lunch on the first floor of the Book Depository Building at the
>>>>> time of the shooting, and in another version that he was working on the
>>>>> sixth floor. Indeed, Oswald, the political animal, was so uninterested in
>>>>> the fact that the most powerful politician on earth had just been shot
>>>>> that he had no inclination to stick around for a few minutes and engage in
>>>>> conversation with his coworkers about the sensational and tragic event.
>>>>> Does that make any sense?
>>>>>
>>>>> V Bugliosi Reclaiming History
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Givens?
>>>
>>> Apparently, he went to watch the show somewhere down on Main, at Record I
>>> believe, near where a friend worked.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Apparently? Prove it. SHow me in a photo or film.
>
> I don't have to prove "apparently". I have looked at the crowd photos on
> Main hoping to find Givens & whoever he was with, maybe Oswald. The
> sightings of Oswald on the 4th, 3rd, 2nd, and various parts of the 1st
> floor of the depository (front, stock room, domino room) are beginning to
> make me think of the ongoing sightings of Elvis. Maybe Oswald wasn't in
> the building at all....
>
shooting?
Who said that Givens went to the movies? Wouldn't that make him the
assassin?
> dcw
>
OHLeeRedux
Dec 24, 2016, 11:24:07 AM12/24/16
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BOZ
Dec 24, 2016, 11:24:14 AM12/24/16
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Anthony Marsh
Dec 24, 2016, 1:38:19 PM12/24/16
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your Web page?
donald willis
Dec 24, 2016, 2:28:31 PM12/24/16
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donald willis
Dec 24, 2016, 2:29:09 PM12/24/16
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"insightful fellow"?
Manufactured witness "evidence" like the solo Bookhout report re the first
interview session with Oswald kinda rules out the 2nd-floor lunchroom site
right away, if that's the scenario you buy. If the encounter did in fact
occur there, the FBI kinda screwed themselves by haplessly trying to make
it look like Oswald himself endorsed this version.... Harry Holmes and the
Hosty-Bookhout report put the lie to this nonsense.
dcw
OHLeeRedux
Dec 25, 2016, 2:20:39 PM12/25/16
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"Leads? Sure. I'll just check with the boys down at the crime lab. They
got four more detectives working on the case. They got us working in
shifts!"
BOZ
Dec 25, 2016, 2:22:25 PM12/25/16
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BOZ
Dec 25, 2016, 11:18:39 PM12/25/16
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donald willis
Dec 26, 2016, 10:48:01 AM12/26/16
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judos...@gmail.com
Jan 20, 2017, 8:59:06 PM1/20/17
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On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 7:08:21 PM UTC-8, David Von Pein wrote:
How much time do you need to come up with the source?
Or admit that Bugliosi wasn't telling the truth?
David Von Pein
Jan 21, 2017, 4:00:02 PM1/21/17
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sources:
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1214.html
The two sources being:
WR, p.636 and Harry Holmes' testimony at 7 H 302.
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