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Piotr Mancini
Mar 13, 2020, 8:29:50 AM3/13/20
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[X the hidden one, not L. Fletcher Prouty]
"Building blueprints are kept by local permitting and fire authorities and
copies can generally be obtained by almost anyone."
I call your bullshit. See here:
http://www.dealey-plaza.org/~ramon/misc/Sample-Communications-with-Dallas-Entities.pdf
-Ramon No Smelly BS Allowed Herrera
JFK Numbers
recip...@gmail.com
Mar 19, 2020, 11:03:22 PM3/19/20
to
(aka "local permitting authorities") as John Slate advised? I don't see
any email addressed to that particular group.
Piotr Mancini
Mar 20, 2020, 2:56:46 PM3/20/20
to
On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 10:03:22 PM UTC-5, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
(1) What I published was not comprehensive. I contacted the Fire
Department.
(2) Did you see all the lawyers involved? Those were the ones that were
ordered to fast track my/your/our demand.
See Alternative 3 below.
-Ramon
JFK Numbers
===============
There has been some debate about the validity -or lack thereof- of topics
covered this forum. Terms like "Red Herring" and "Straw Man" have been
thrown about.
Fair enough! Let's declare the topic then.
I hereby officially declare the topic as ...
"Degree of Accuracy and Valid Methods of Measurement for the Free Open
Source 3D Model of Dealey Plaza"
This has several angles (intended).
(1) Since the freakin' model is M-I-N-E, I get to choose any degree of
accuracy or measurement method, capisce?
(2) I then realize that the model is not really mine, is it? Its
legitimate and sole owner is The People. Therefore, out of respect for my
Ultimate Superiors, the decision is easy: THE most accurate measures
available.
(3) If anybody on this planet has any issues, they have two options:
(a) Replace me. I will be the happiest person alive. I need/want ZERO
credit.
(b) Clone the whole site, use what you wish, modify what you must, add
additions, destroy what you don't like. Fair enough?
IOW: When I say that the JFK Numbers projects are of, by, for The People,
I am dead serious.
-Ramon
JFK Numbers
Department.
(2) Did you see all the lawyers involved? Those were the ones that were
ordered to fast track my/your/our demand.
See Alternative 3 below.
-Ramon
JFK Numbers
===============
There has been some debate about the validity -or lack thereof- of topics
covered this forum. Terms like "Red Herring" and "Straw Man" have been
thrown about.
Fair enough! Let's declare the topic then.
I hereby officially declare the topic as ...
"Degree of Accuracy and Valid Methods of Measurement for the Free Open
Source 3D Model of Dealey Plaza"
This has several angles (intended).
(1) Since the freakin' model is M-I-N-E, I get to choose any degree of
accuracy or measurement method, capisce?
(2) I then realize that the model is not really mine, is it? Its
legitimate and sole owner is The People. Therefore, out of respect for my
Ultimate Superiors, the decision is easy: THE most accurate measures
available.
(3) If anybody on this planet has any issues, they have two options:
(a) Replace me. I will be the happiest person alive. I need/want ZERO
credit.
(b) Clone the whole site, use what you wish, modify what you must, add
additions, destroy what you don't like. Fair enough?
IOW: When I say that the JFK Numbers projects are of, by, for The People,
I am dead serious.
-Ramon
JFK Numbers
Piotr Mancini
Mar 20, 2020, 2:56:49 PM3/20/20
to
On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 10:03:22 PM UTC-5, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, March 13, 2020 at 7:29:50 AM UTC-5, JFK Numbers wrote:
> > [X the hidden one, not L. Fletcher Prouty]
> >
> > "Building blueprints are kept by local permitting and fire authorities and
> > copies can generally be obtained by almost anyone."
> >
> > I call your bullshit. See here:
> >
> > http://www.dealey-plaza.org/~ramon/misc/Sample-Communications-with-Dallas-Entities.pdf
> >
> > -Ramon No Smelly BS Allowed Herrera
> > JFK Numbers
>
> So, did you ever try to contact the CoD Building Inspection Department
> (aka "local permitting authorities") as John Slate advised?
Nameless poster, I keep on calling your bullshit:
> > [X the hidden one, not L. Fletcher Prouty]
> >
> > "Building blueprints are kept by local permitting and fire authorities and
> > copies can generally be obtained by almost anyone."
> >
> > I call your bullshit. See here:
> >
> > http://www.dealey-plaza.org/~ramon/misc/Sample-Communications-with-Dallas-Entities.pdf
> >
> > -Ramon No Smelly BS Allowed Herrera
> > JFK Numbers
>
> So, did you ever try to contact the CoD Building Inspection Department
> (aka "local permitting authorities") as John Slate advised?
John Slate, City Archivist, very diligent civil servant with whom I had
multiple telephone communications, advised me to contact the Sixth Floor
Museum:
(1) Where I had begun my search 4 years earlier.
(2) Institution which got scared shitless upon being informed of my
intentions to build the closest to a Time Machine humanly and technically
possible.
I think that the mention of the X-rays, Forensics Component:
http://www.jfknumbers.org/ich-bin-ein-berliner/
as opposed to Architectural Component:
http://www.dealey-plaza.org/your-designers/
was most likely the part which scared the crap out of their Board of
Directors.
As a note of interest: In a previous e-mail, I asked the Museum about
their mention of my/your/our website, vis a vis the McAdams website.
They removed it.
-Ramon
JFK Numbers
recip...@gmail.com
Mar 20, 2020, 10:53:35 PM3/20/20
to
On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 1:56:46 PM UTC-5, Piotr Mancini wrote:
> On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 10:03:22 PM UTC-5, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, March 13, 2020 at 7:29:50 AM UTC-5, JFK Numbers wrote:
> > > [X the hidden one, not L. Fletcher Prouty]
> > >
> > > "Building blueprints are kept by local permitting and fire authorities and
> > > copies can generally be obtained by almost anyone."
> > >
> > > I call your bullshit. See here:
> > >
> > > http://www.dealey-plaza.org/~ramon/misc/Sample-Communications-with-Dallas-Entities.pdf
> > >
> > > -Ramon No Smelly BS Allowed Herrera
> > > JFK Numbers
> >
>
> > So, did you ever try to contact the CoD Building Inspection Department
> > (aka "local permitting authorities") as John Slate advised? I don't see
> > any email addressed to that particular group.
>
> (1) What I published was not comprehensive. I contacted the Fire
> Department.
>
> (2) Did you see all the lawyers involved? Those were the ones that were
> ordered to fast track my/your/our demand.
You avoided, rather than answered my question. Did you contact the BID as
> On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 10:03:22 PM UTC-5, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, March 13, 2020 at 7:29:50 AM UTC-5, JFK Numbers wrote:
> > > [X the hidden one, not L. Fletcher Prouty]
> > >
> > > "Building blueprints are kept by local permitting and fire authorities and
> > > copies can generally be obtained by almost anyone."
> > >
> > > I call your bullshit. See here:
> > >
> > > http://www.dealey-plaza.org/~ramon/misc/Sample-Communications-with-Dallas-Entities.pdf
> > >
> > > -Ramon No Smelly BS Allowed Herrera
> > > JFK Numbers
> >
>
> > So, did you ever try to contact the CoD Building Inspection Department
> > (aka "local permitting authorities") as John Slate advised? I don't see
> > any email addressed to that particular group.
>
> (1) What I published was not comprehensive. I contacted the Fire
> Department.
>
> (2) Did you see all the lawyers involved? Those were the ones that were
> ordered to fast track my/your/our demand.
Slate recommended?
recip...@gmail.com
Mar 20, 2020, 10:53:40 PM3/20/20
to
On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 1:56:49 PM UTC-5, Piotr Mancini wrote:
> On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 10:03:22 PM UTC-5, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, March 13, 2020 at 7:29:50 AM UTC-5, JFK Numbers wrote:
> > > [X the hidden one, not L. Fletcher Prouty]
> > >
> > > "Building blueprints are kept by local permitting and fire authorities and
> > > copies can generally be obtained by almost anyone."
> > >
> > > I call your bullshit. See here:
> > >
> > > http://www.dealey-plaza.org/~ramon/misc/Sample-Communications-with-Dallas-Entities.pdf
>
> On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 10:03:22 PM UTC-5, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, March 13, 2020 at 7:29:50 AM UTC-5, JFK Numbers wrote:
> > > [X the hidden one, not L. Fletcher Prouty]
> > >
> > > "Building blueprints are kept by local permitting and fire authorities and
> > > copies can generally be obtained by almost anyone."
> > >
> > > I call your bullshit. See here:
> > >
> > > http://www.dealey-plaza.org/~ramon/misc/Sample-Communications-with-Dallas-Entities.pdf
>
> > So, did you ever try to contact the CoD Building Inspection Department
> > (aka "local permitting authorities") as John Slate advised?
>
> Nameless poster, I keep on calling your bullshit:
>
> John Slate, City Archivist, very diligent civil servant with whom I had
> multiple telephone communications, advised me to contact the Sixth Floor
> Museum:
..and on your second attempt, you failed to answer the simple question I
> > (aka "local permitting authorities") as John Slate advised?
>
> Nameless poster, I keep on calling your bullshit:
>
> John Slate, City Archivist, very diligent civil servant with whom I had
> multiple telephone communications, advised me to contact the Sixth Floor
> Museum:
asked.
Piotr Mancini
Mar 21, 2020, 4:18:50 PM3/21/20
to
On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 9:53:40 PM UTC-5, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
(1) There is only one combination to that safe box. One authority has sole
control of the blueprints.
(2) After 5 years I found -thanks to a Black Obama supporter who kicked
the asses of the lawyers- the ONLY solution.
(3) You didn't read/understand (Reading comprehension? Malice? Trolling
habits?) the letters that the John H. Slate, City Archivist sent me.
http://www.dealey-plaza.org/~ramon/misc/Sample-Communications-with-Dallas-Entities.pdf
Much less the multiple phone calls, obviously.
(4) Now -when I am (finally!) making progress in that front- you want me
to go back to the past:
Should I begin with the Sixth Floor Museum, first contacted in 2015? The
firefighter's authority?
Please READ point No. 3 below. It applies not only to 3D models, X-Rays
and measurements, but to e-mails, phone calls, due diligence.
"Con tan buena voz, y mandando a otros a cantar?"
[Deagle and/or Marsh can translate]
-Ramon
JFK Numbers
==============================
control of the blueprints.
(2) After 5 years I found -thanks to a Black Obama supporter who kicked
the asses of the lawyers- the ONLY solution.
(3) You didn't read/understand (Reading comprehension? Malice? Trolling
habits?) the letters that the John H. Slate, City Archivist sent me.
http://www.dealey-plaza.org/~ramon/misc/Sample-Communications-with-Dallas-Entities.pdf
Much less the multiple phone calls, obviously.
(4) Now -when I am (finally!) making progress in that front- you want me
to go back to the past:
Should I begin with the Sixth Floor Museum, first contacted in 2015? The
firefighter's authority?
Please READ point No. 3 below. It applies not only to 3D models, X-Rays
and measurements, but to e-mails, phone calls, due diligence.
"Con tan buena voz, y mandando a otros a cantar?"
[Deagle and/or Marsh can translate]
-Ramon
JFK Numbers
==============================
recip...@gmail.com
Mar 22, 2020, 12:04:56 PM3/22/20
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On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 3:18:50 PM UTC-5, Piotr Mancini wrote:
> On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 9:53:40 PM UTC-5, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 1:56:49 PM UTC-5, JFK Numbers wrote:
> > > On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 10:03:22 PM UTC-5, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Friday, March 13, 2020 at 7:29:50 AM UTC-5, JFK Numbers wrote:
> > > > > [X the hidden one, not L. Fletcher Prouty]
> > > > >
> > > > > "Building blueprints are kept by local permitting and fire authorities and
> > > > > copies can generally be obtained by almost anyone."
> > > > >
> > > > > I call your bullshit. See here:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.dealey-plaza.org/~ramon/misc/Sample-Communications-with-Dallas-Entities.pdf
> > >
> > > > So, did you ever try to contact the CoD Building Inspection Department
> > > > (aka "local permitting authorities") as John Slate advised?
> > >
> > > Nameless poster, I keep on calling your bullshit:
> > >
> > > John Slate, City Archivist, very diligent civil servant with whom I had
> > > multiple telephone communications, advised me to contact the Sixth Floor
> > > Museum:
> >
> > ..and on your second attempt, you failed to answer the simple question I
> > asked.
>
> (1) There is only one combination to that safe box. One authority has sole
> control of the blueprints.
>
> (2) After 5 years I found -thanks to a Black Obama supporter who kicked
> the asses of the lawyers- the ONLY solution.
>
> (3) You didn't read/understand (Reading comprehension? Malice? Trolling
> habits?) the letters that the John H. Slate, City Archivist sent me.
I read and understand that Slate advised that you contact the Building
> On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 9:53:40 PM UTC-5, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 1:56:49 PM UTC-5, JFK Numbers wrote:
> > > On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 10:03:22 PM UTC-5, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Friday, March 13, 2020 at 7:29:50 AM UTC-5, JFK Numbers wrote:
> > > > > [X the hidden one, not L. Fletcher Prouty]
> > > > >
> > > > > "Building blueprints are kept by local permitting and fire authorities and
> > > > > copies can generally be obtained by almost anyone."
> > > > >
> > > > > I call your bullshit. See here:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.dealey-plaza.org/~ramon/misc/Sample-Communications-with-Dallas-Entities.pdf
> > >
> > > > So, did you ever try to contact the CoD Building Inspection Department
> > > > (aka "local permitting authorities") as John Slate advised?
> > >
> > > Nameless poster, I keep on calling your bullshit:
> > >
> > > John Slate, City Archivist, very diligent civil servant with whom I had
> > > multiple telephone communications, advised me to contact the Sixth Floor
> > > Museum:
> >
> > ..and on your second attempt, you failed to answer the simple question I
> > asked.
>
> (1) There is only one combination to that safe box. One authority has sole
> control of the blueprints.
>
> (2) After 5 years I found -thanks to a Black Obama supporter who kicked
> the asses of the lawyers- the ONLY solution.
>
> (3) You didn't read/understand (Reading comprehension? Malice? Trolling
> habits?) the letters that the John H. Slate, City Archivist sent me.
Inspection Department. Did you actually do as he'd advised? Or are you
going to continue avoiding the question?
Piotr Mancini
Mar 23, 2020, 2:26:21 PM3/23/20
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On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 11:04:56 AM UTC-5, recip...@gmail.com wrote:
actually called me, which is VERY rare) is that John Slate was referring
to the blueprints for buildings around Dealey Plaza, "privately owned".
That would be buildings other than the TSBD.
I can call the Building Inspection Department, at some point, in my search
for further data. I already contacted the Old Red Museum.
Thanks for keeping me honest.
So, the other question is about the validity of mathematical computer
models, using FEA/CFD and other computerized approaches.
Please read this thread:
"The man who may have solved the JFK murder case, and doesn't even know
it"
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.assassination.jfk/4b42RCsHo_Q/7dpTOu84CwAJ
Literature and videos here:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BydXldbRY__vM0lFMHFiWF96bE0
Speaking of which...
Did you read about my efforts to have all the home movies restored and
placed in the public domain?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLof8jFzqbDPIZ3FVW4DFIAndxp6RGl44q
-Ramon
JFK Numbers
> On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 3:18:50 PM UTC-5, JFK Numbers wrote:
> I read and understand that Slate advised that you contact the Building
> Inspection Department. Did you actually do as he'd advised? Or are you
> going to continue avoiding the question?
Oh, I see what you mean. My recollection, from our phone calls (he
> I read and understand that Slate advised that you contact the Building
> Inspection Department. Did you actually do as he'd advised? Or are you
> going to continue avoiding the question?
actually called me, which is VERY rare) is that John Slate was referring
to the blueprints for buildings around Dealey Plaza, "privately owned".
That would be buildings other than the TSBD.
I can call the Building Inspection Department, at some point, in my search
for further data. I already contacted the Old Red Museum.
Thanks for keeping me honest.
So, the other question is about the validity of mathematical computer
models, using FEA/CFD and other computerized approaches.
Please read this thread:
"The man who may have solved the JFK murder case, and doesn't even know
it"
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.assassination.jfk/4b42RCsHo_Q/7dpTOu84CwAJ
Literature and videos here:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BydXldbRY__vM0lFMHFiWF96bE0
Speaking of which...
Did you read about my efforts to have all the home movies restored and
placed in the public domain?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLof8jFzqbDPIZ3FVW4DFIAndxp6RGl44q
-Ramon
JFK Numbers
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