Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

IT'S SO OBVIOUS

138 views
Skip to first unread message

BOZ

unread,
Mar 5, 2017, 9:58:29 PM3/5/17
to

bigdog

unread,
Mar 6, 2017, 9:59:43 PM3/6/17
to
On Sunday, March 5, 2017 at 9:58:29 PM UTC-5, BOZ wrote:
> http://jfk-archives.blogspot.ca/2010/06/single-bullet-theory-in-action.html

We owe a debt of gratitude to DVP for that two frame clip which shows JFK
and JBC both raising their right hands in perfect unison a fraction of a
second after CE399 tore through their torsos. To me that is the clincher
for the SBT. DVP also shows a similar clip from Z224-225 which shows that
in that sequence JFK's right hand was still moving down. It was at the
next frame, Z226, that his right hand suddenly reversed direction and
started moving up, the same frame JBC's right hand moves upward. Both men
reacted simultaneously to the same stimulus. For the benefit of the
nitpickers, one in particular, they weren't actually struck
simultaneously. It was a couple milliseconds apart. That one particular
nitpicker will also claim that we are again moving the frame at which the
single bullet struck because he doesn't bother to read for comprehension
and can't figure out we are talking about the frame the two men reacted as
opposed to the frame at which the bullet struck.

Anthony Marsh

unread,
Mar 7, 2017, 5:25:50 PM3/7/17
to
On 3/6/2017 9:59 PM, bigdog wrote:
> On Sunday, March 5, 2017 at 9:58:29 PM UTC-5, BOZ wrote:
>> http://jfk-archives.blogspot.ca/2010/06/single-bullet-theory-in-action.html
>
> We owe a debt of gratitude to DVP for that two frame clip which shows JFK
> and JBC both raising their right hands in perfect unison a fraction of a
> second after CE399 tore through their torsos. To me that is the clincher
> for the SBT. DVP also shows a similar clip from Z224-225 which shows that
> in that sequence JFK's right hand was still moving down. It was at the
> next frame, Z226, that his right hand suddenly reversed direction and

So, when does your bullet hit? Z-221?
Next week it'll be Z-220.

> started moving up, the same frame JBC's right hand moves upward. Both men
> reacted simultaneously to the same stimulus. For the benefit of the
> nitpickers, one in particular, they weren't actually struck
> simultaneously. It was a couple milliseconds apart. That one particular

A couple? Show me the math. What is the speed of the bullet?
The distance is 24 inches.

BOZ

unread,
Mar 8, 2017, 10:11:39 AM3/8/17
to
The speed of the bullet is fast. Very fast. Did you even look at the
video or are you too busy looking at yourself in the mirror?

BOZ

unread,
Mar 8, 2017, 10:11:58 AM3/8/17
to
On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 6:25:50 PM UTC-4, Anthony Marsh wrote:
Genius, why don't you describe what you see in the video? Describe it in
30 words or less.

mainframetech

unread,
Mar 8, 2017, 7:45:22 PM3/8/17
to
Yet another video play that needs to be ignored. It appears that JFK
is moving his hand up to his throat when the shot hit there, but Connally
could be doing anything, no guarantee he is reacting to a bullet. Since
the SBT is proven to be dead, it can't be from the same bullet.

Chris


Anthony Marsh

unread,
Mar 8, 2017, 10:19:20 PM3/8/17
to
I didn't ask that. I asked you WHAT the speed of the bullet was. You have
no answer, because you know nothing about the evidence. And you can't do
the math. All you can ever so is guess and make up shit.


bigdog

unread,
Mar 9, 2017, 12:27:08 PM3/9/17
to
Right. Just the strangest coincidence that JFK's right hand suddenly moved
upward at the same instant JBC's right hand suddenly moved upward. Typical
of the kind of silly excuses you and your fellow conspiracy hobbyists are
forced to dream up so you can continue to deny another piece of evidence
of Oswald's guilt.

David Von Pein

unread,
Mar 9, 2017, 12:27:29 PM3/9/17
to
CHRIS / "FRAME" SAID:

...Connally could be doing anything, no guarantee he is reacting to a
bullet...it can't be from the same bullet.


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

It's this type of COMPLETE DENIAL that forces conspiracy fantasists like
Chris/Mainframe to reject the SBT, even though those CTers have *got* to
know there is no reasonable substitute theory that can possibly supplant
the single-bullet conclusion.

This type of almost unbelievable CTer denial regarding the SBT is
something that reached its pinnacle (for me anyway) when I was discussing
Governor Connally's Z-Film reactions with various SBT Deniers at The
Education Forum in 2015 [below]....

http://single-bullet-theory.blogspot.com/#Debating-The-SBT

BOZ

unread,
Mar 10, 2017, 12:18:30 AM3/10/17
to
I'M A GENIUS IN MATH. I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE BULLET SPEED.

BOZ

unread,
Mar 10, 2017, 3:16:00 PM3/10/17
to
I just read it. Great job Mr. Von Pein. You destroyed them all.

BOZ

unread,
Mar 10, 2017, 3:16:41 PM3/10/17
to
You have a filthy mouth genius. You are full of bovine excrement. I'd love
to debate you in public you wimp.

Anthony Marsh

unread,
Mar 10, 2017, 3:30:21 PM3/10/17
to
On 3/9/2017 12:27 PM, David Von Pein wrote:
> CHRIS / "FRAME" SAID:
>
> ...Connally could be doing anything, no guarantee he is reacting to a
> bullet...it can't be from the same bullet.
>
>
> DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
>
> It's this type of COMPLETE DENIAL that forces conspiracy fantasists like
> Chris/Mainframe to reject the SBT, even though those CTers have *got* to
> know there is no reasonable substitute theory that can possibly supplant
> the single-bullet conclusion.
>

Silly. Maybe you weren't around in 1978, but the HSCA also had its own
SBT. And also believed in conspiracy. You don't need no damn stinkin SBT
to think Oswald was a lone shooter. That's what Hoover believed.

> This type of almost unbelievable CTer denial regarding the SBT is
> something that reached its pinnacle (for me anyway) when I was discussing
> Governor Connally's Z-Film reactions with various SBT Deniers at The
> Education Forum in 2015 [below]....
>

I notice that you are too afraid to answer MY questions about YOUR SBT.

> http://single-bullet-theory.blogspot.com/#Debating-The-SBT
>


OHLeeRedux

unread,
Mar 11, 2017, 12:33:35 PM3/11/17
to
You, sir, are a genius in the JFK assassination. Marsh and Harris don't
hold a candle to you.


OHLeeRedux

unread,
Mar 11, 2017, 12:36:41 PM3/11/17
to
You have no authority to ask questions. Stick to fighting with your Bridge
partners.



>
> > http://single-bullet-theory.blogspot.com/#Debating-The-SBT
> >


bigdog

unread,
Mar 12, 2017, 7:01:46 PM3/12/17
to
Like when they open a four card major suit.

mainframetech

unread,
Mar 13, 2017, 5:33:54 PM3/13/17
to
Once again you've shown your complete denial of the information outside
the silly tired old WCR. The bullet that was touted by the WCR and the
suckers that believed it, was the back wound bullet on JFK. Here's text
from the ARRB files, from the sworn testimony of James Sibert, FBI agent
who observed the autopsy. He spoke of the prosectors:

"And they said, "There's no exit.” Finck,
in particular, said, "There’s no exit.” And they
said that you could feel it with the end of the
finger - I mean, the depth of this wound.

From: http://aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/arrb/medical_testimony/pdf/Sibert_9-11-97.pdf
Page 111

Further corroborating proof is from an autopsy team member:

"O'Connor: So we used a malleable probe and bent it a little bit and found
out that the bullet entered the body, went through the intercostal
muscles—the muscles in between the ribs. The bullet went in
through the muscles, didn't touch any of the ribs, arched downwards, hit
the back of the pleural cavity, which encases the lungs, both front and
back. It bounced off that cavity and stopped. It actually went down and
stopped. Went through the ribs and stopped (photo 10). So we didn't know
the track of the bullet until we eviscerated the body later. That's what
happened at that time. We traced the bullet path down and found out it
didn't traverse the body. It did not go in one side and come out the other
side of the body.
Law: You can be reasonably sure of that?
O'Connor: Absolutely.
Law: It was just from the probe then?
O'Connor: Oh yes.
Law: And these doctors knew that?
O'Connor: Absolutely.
Law: While it happened?
O'Connor: Absolutely."

From: "In the Eyes of History" by William Matson Law, pages 40-41

So you see that the back wound bullet never left the body of JFK, and
therefore could not have gone out the throat wound, and therefore could
not have hit Connally. The SBT is dead. Sad that you don't know of this
information of the case.

Chris

Anthony Marsh

unread,
Mar 13, 2017, 11:15:25 PM3/13/17
to
Almost no one in this country plays that way. Most use Standard American
and nowadays most use Yellow Card.


bigdog

unread,
Mar 14, 2017, 4:31:06 PM3/14/17
to
I've grown tired of continually explaining to you that thoughts expressed
during initial examination of the body do not constitute conclusions which
are made after all information has been gathered. Since you seem incapable
of understanding such a simple concept I don't know how to put it in terms
you can understand. You were at one time amusing but like Bob Harris you
have become boring on your way to becoming annoying. You can believe this
silly nonsense if you like. Nobody cares. Nobody is buying it. Bob Harris
has his Z285 shot and you have your "no exit".

mainframetech

unread,
Mar 16, 2017, 1:51:34 PM3/16/17
to
I get tired of telling you that you're not in court, and also that you
don't decide what constitutes conclusions to me or anyone. Go solve your
own crimes if you can't get along with others on equal terms. You are not
in charge here, certainly not with the record of errors you have racked
up.




> Since you seem incapable
> of understanding such a simple concept I don't know how to put it in terms
> you can understand. You were at one time amusing but like Bob Harris you
> have become boring on your way to becoming annoying. You can believe this
> silly nonsense if you like. Nobody cares. Nobody is buying it. Bob Harris
> has his Z285 shot and you have your "no exit".



The proof that I remain a nexus of interest is that you are unable to
go away, since I remain a threat to your peaceful existence contemplating
the WCR and your navel. Remember, you didn't have to keep coming back if
your not amused enough. That was the only reason you said you hung
around. Now we test that statement.

My belief is that you must come back for a few reasons. First, your
ego won't let you leave without gaining some of it back. Second, you feel
a certain responsibility in voluntarily looking after the government's
point of view in this forum.

Chris



Anthony Marsh

unread,
Mar 17, 2017, 7:09:37 AM3/17/17
to
Science also needs proof.

bigdog

unread,
Mar 17, 2017, 7:13:06 AM3/17/17
to
My, are we getting testy. Someone needs to take a time out.

>
>
>
> > Since you seem incapable
> > of understanding such a simple concept I don't know how to put it in terms
> > you can understand. You were at one time amusing but like Bob Harris you
> > have become boring on your way to becoming annoying. You can believe this
> > silly nonsense if you like. Nobody cares. Nobody is buying it. Bob Harris
> > has his Z285 shot and you have your "no exit".
>
>
>
> The proof that I remain a nexus of interest is that you are unable to
> go away, since I remain a threat to your peaceful existence contemplating
> the WCR and your navel.

It's kind of like seeing a car wreck. It's hard to take your eyes off of
it.

> Remember, you didn't have to keep coming back if
> your not amused enough. That was the only reason you said you hung
> around. Now we test that statement.
>

I reached the point a long time ago where I no longer allow myself to get
roped into conversations with Bob Harris about Z285. It's taken me awhile
but I am reaching that same point with your repetitive nonsense such as
"no exit", "two men with a gun on the 6th floor", "the prosectors were
ordered to lie", etc., etc., yada, yada, yada. I think the only reason I
have lasted with you as long as I have is that whereas Bob Harris has only
one nonsensical theory (Z285) while you have a variety pack. It has made
it a bit more interesting but alas we are now reaching the point where
even the variety of your silliness is no long enough to keep it
interesting.

There is simply no point in continuing to point out the silliness of these
claims. They pretty much refute themselves.

> My belief is that you must come back for a few reasons. First, your
> ego won't let you leave without gaining some of it back. Second, you feel
> a certain responsibility in voluntarily looking after the government's
> point of view in this forum.
>

I gave you my reasons quite a while ago. It is for amusement only but even
you are now losing your amusement value. You are morphing into Bob Harris.
Your crap has ceased to be amusing. It isn't interesting. It has become
boring.

Anthony Marsh

unread,
Mar 17, 2017, 8:07:44 PM3/17/17
to
On 3/9/2017 12:27 PM, David Von Pein wrote:
> CHRIS / "FRAME" SAID:
>
> ...Connally could be doing anything, no guarantee he is reacting to a
> bullet...it can't be from the same bullet.
>
>
> DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
>
> It's this type of COMPLETE DENIAL that forces conspiracy fantasists like
> Chris/Mainframe to reject the SBT, even though those CTers have *got* to
> know there is no reasonable substitute theory that can possibly supplant
> the single-bullet conclusion.
>

Oh, you mean conspiracy fantasists like J. Edgar Hoover? He didn't need
no damn stinkin SBT. Or maybe you're thinking of that conspiracy
fantasist John Connally who rejected the SBT. He should know. He was hit
by a separate bullet.
He had time to react after JFK was hit.
Maybe you could make up a SBT with a verry slow bullet!
Yeah, that's it! You've solved the case.
0 new messages