STUDY THIS MARSH AND HARRIS

BOZ

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Jul 16, 2016, 12:50:54 AM7/16/16

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http://davidvonpein.blogspot.ca/

Robert Harris

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Jul 16, 2016, 10:23:32 PM7/16/16

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BOZ wrote:
> http://davidvonpein.blogspot.ca/
>
Prior to his interest in the JFK case, David's thing was reviewing Hanna
Barbera cartoons on Amazon:-)

His only attempt to refute the CE399 evidence, was to pretend to be
horrified at the very thought that the FBI would fabricate evidence -
something they have a long history of doing, both before and after the
JFK assassination.

And his argument against the 285 shot was, that the limo passengers were
indeed, startled by a gunshot, but it was fired at frame 224. His
response to me pointing out that startle responses much begin with a
third of a second or 6 frames following the noise, was of course, dead
silence.

David obviously, doesn't do well in forum debates, so he has to rely on
his blog, where corrections and refutations of his claims are never
permitted.

Robert Harris

Anthony Marsh

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Jul 17, 2016, 9:43:31 PM7/17/16

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On 7/16/2016 10:23 PM, Robert Harris wrote:
> BOZ wrote:
>> http://davidvonpein.blogspot.ca/
>>
> Prior to his interest in the JFK case, David's thing was reviewing Hanna
> Barbera cartoons on Amazon:-)
>

Not that there's anything wrong with that. Before taking on the JFK
assasination Dale Myers made M&M cartoons. Now suddenly he's a
millionaire. Was that all from his book?

> His only attempt to refute the CE399 evidence, was to pretend to be
> horrified at the very thought that the FBI would fabricate evidence -
> something they have a long history of doing, both before and after the
> JFK assassination.
>
> And his argument against the 285 shot was, that the limo passengers were
> indeed, startled by a gunshot, but it was fired at frame 224. His
> response to me pointing out that startle responses much begin with a
> third of a second or 6 frames following the noise, was of course, dead
> silence.
>

Don't remember that.

> David obviously, doesn't do well in forum debates, so he has to rely on
> his blog, where corrections and refutations of his claims are never
> permitted.
>

Because on his blog he is allowed to call people names.

>
>
> Robert Harris
>

Jason Burke

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Jul 17, 2016, 9:44:28 PM7/17/16

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Da*m, Harris. PLEASE learn when and where to use a comma.

You're embarrassing yourself even more (who'd'a thought that was
possible,) by not knowing one of the most basic principles of grammar.

David Von Pein

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Jul 18, 2016, 5:19:19 PM7/18/16

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I, of course, have *never once* said that the limo passengers, just after
Z224, were exhibiting a "startle reaction" (i.e., a JERKY type of movement
that almost always occurs in a classic "startle reaction" situation).

I would never have suggested such a thing, of course, because there are
absolutely *no* such "jerky" startle reactions visible by anybody
*anywhere* on the Z-Film. That type of jerky reaction cannot be found
anyplace on the whole film (despite Harris' feeble analysis).

What I said was this (which Harris totally misrepresented above)....

"Your main problem, Bob [Harris], is trying to PROVE that the "reactions"
on the part of Nellie, Jackie, Kellerman, and Greer (which could more
accurately be referred to as "movements") are as a result of hearing a
gunshot.

Naturally, you cannot come anywhere close to proving that the movements of
those 4 people in the limousine are occurring as the result of each of
them hearing a shot at Z285. You THINK you've "proven" it, but of course
you haven't.

For one (very big!) thing, the limo occupants' "reactions" that you
attribute to a gunshot are not SHARP or SUDDEN or JERKY in any way
whatsoever. The "reactions" (i.e., movements) are perfectly SMOOTH and
NON-JERKY.

When watching Nellie and Jackie "leaning in" toward their husbands, they
are SMOOTHLY leaning in toward each man. There's nothing unusual or out of
the ordinary about Nellie's and Jackie's movements at all.

In short -- There's nothing at all on the Z-Film that could possibly prove
that a shot was fired at circa Z285. But that won't stop Robert Harris
from imagining that he has discovered proof-positive of just such a
gunshot." -- DVP; February 6, 2009

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-435.html

And....

"In Bob [Harris'] "Z285" world, the movements of Nellie Connally and
Jacqueline Kennedy couldn't POSSIBLY be the movements and actions of two
women who, just 3.33 seconds prior to Z285, heard a gunshot being fired
from Lee Oswald's gun on the sixth floor of the Book Depository....with
that single gunshot resulting in the husbands of both of those women being
wounded by the same bullet....with the two women then reacting in a
perfectly normal fashion by LEANING IN toward their respective wounded
spouses. The above scenario is simply IMPOSSIBLE in the Z285 world of
Robert Harris. Go figure." -- DVP; December 1, 2009

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-775.html

BOZ

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Jul 18, 2016, 5:25:45 PM7/18/16

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I prefer Hanna Barbera cartoons over your videos of Z285.