Trying to figure out this photo

[jecorb...@yahoo.com]

https://a57.foxnews.com/media2.foxnews.com/BrightCove/694940094001/2017/10/23/931/524/694940094001_5622717163001_5622700856001-vs.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

Jackie's pink suit tells us this is the day of the assassination but the
Kennedy are exiting from a building to the awaiting car. In Dallas they
went right from the plane to the limo so this would have to have been in
Ft. Worth. I'm pretty sure they did not use the presidential limo to ride
from the hotel to the airfield where they made the short hop from Ft.
Worth to Dallas. I'm guessing that car is the ordinary white Lincoln they
rode in that morning. Can somebody confirm that?

[19efppp]

It's definitely Ft. Worth. And I have a wider view of that photo that
shows it to be a white car.

[nonuser]

https://s.hdnux.com/photos/24/54/73/5426925/5/rawImage.jpg

[Anthony Marsh]

Not sure. Could be Fort Worth. One clue is the ornate double doors.
Another would be who is wearing or carrying a coat.
Doublecheck the Stoughton photos.

[David Von Pein]

On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 1:50:26 PM UTC-5, jecorb...@yahoo.com wrote:

Yes, it is. Go to 33:16 in the video below (from David Wolper's "Four
Days" film) to see film footage of the Kennedys riding in the white
Lincoln convertible in Fort Worth. They were departing the Hotel Texas in
Ft. Worth in the picture you posted above. ....

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sgeZt9bm0sW7hAr0jEYqgQZhT2mag4Fr/view

BTW/FYI -- A few years ago, the white '63 Lincoln was sold at auction for
$318,000:

https://www.keranews.org/post/sold-fall-auctions-abound-prized-jfk-and-oswald-items

[Allan G. Johnson]

On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 1:50:26 PM UTC-5, jecorb...@yahoo.com wrote:

According to Gerald Blaine, co-author of The Kennedy Detail, the
motorcade from Carswell AF base to Ft. Worth on the late evening of Nov.
21st, and used again the next day, were leased vehicles because the
official presidential vehicles had been sent on to Dallas in prep for that
visit.

[Anthony Marsh]

Yes, thanks. I do have one pet peeve though. I wish web sites would keep
rhe original file mames so that we could look it up from the master
list. There were 4 or 5 official WH photographers who took photos.


http://the-puzzle-palace.com/limo_photos.txt

THE WHITE HOUSE PHOTOGRAPH COLLECTION




A UNION LIST




The White House Photograph Collection is comprised of
photographs taken by Robert Knudsen, Office of the Naval Aide
to the President, Abbie Rowe, National Park Service, and
Cecil Stoughton, Office of the Military Aide to the
President. Together, their work constitutes almost day to
day photographic documentation of President Kennedy's
activities during his time as President of the United States.

Unless noted otherwise, President Kennedy is the central
subject in the photographs of the events, ceremonies,
meetings, visits or trips listed herein.

Photographs in the "KN" and "AR" series are to be found
by the negative numbers listed after each event. "ST" series
photographs are arranged first chronologically, and then
numerically by the negative file numbers.


These photographs are in the Public Domain.









14 April 1986
AG

Revised 12 March 2012
W. Anthony Marsh

__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Limousine photographs - Chronological Listing

DATE Y/M/D|ROLL NUMBER |POV| LOCALE |DIGNITARY, notes

1961 POF/PSF/Continental-3 Publicity photo Shows
privacy window as originally installed
61/06/15 ST-141-1/WH61 R WHCA garage, Washington D.C. installing
radio under dash
61/06/15 ST-141-2/WH61 L WHCA garage, Washington D.C. installing
telephone in back seat
61/06/15 ST-141-3/WH61 L WHCA garage, Washington D.C. checking
dash components
61/06/15 ST-141-4/WH61 R WHCA garage, Washington D.C. dash
components installed
61/01/15 ST-141-5/WH61 R WHCA garage, Washington D.C. installing
controls under dash
61/06/15 ST-141-6/WH61 R WHCA garage, Washington D.C. installing
2-way radio under right seat
61/06/15 ST-141-7/WH61 RR WHCA garage, Washington D.C. license
plate AZ * 691
61/06/15 ST-141-8/WH61 F WHCA garage, Washington D.C. testing spot
lights
61/06/15 ST-141-9/WH61 LF WHCA garage, Washington D.C. shows
steering wheel and microphone
61/06/15 ST-141-10/WH61 RR WHCA garage, Washington D.C. license
plate AZ * 691
61/06/15 ST-141-11/WH61 F WHCA garage, Washington D.C. testing spot
lights
61/06/15 ST-141-12/WH61 LR WHCA garage, Washington D.C. shows left
side contol panel, radio
61/06/15 ST-141-13/WH61 R WHCA garage, Washington D.C. shows right
side contol panel, telephone
61/06/15 ST-141-14/WH61 L WHCA garage, Washington D.C. shows right
side contol panel, rear seat
61/06/15 ST-141-15/WH61 L WHCA garage, Washington D.C. shows right
side contol panel, rear seat
61/06/15 ST-141-16/WH61 R WHCA garage, Washington D.C. installing
controls under dash
61/06/15 ST-141-18/WH61 R WHCA garage, Washington D.C. installed
controls under dash
61/06/15 ST-A6-2-61 LF White House, Washington D.C. Delivery of
GG-300
61/06/15 KN-C18065 RF White House, Washington D.C. shows foot
rests on side of limo for SS agents
61/06/15 KN-C18066 LF White House, Washington D.C. demonstrates
rear seat in raised position
61/07/11 ST-A6-1-61 RF Andrews AFB, Maryland Mohammad
Ayub Khan, President of Pakistan
61/07/11 AR 6687-A L Washington, D.C. rear section
of bubbletop on, sunny day
61/07/11 AR 6687-C NOT IN FOLDER
61/07/11 AR 6687-D LF Washington, D.C. Mohammad
Ayub Khan, President of Pakistan
61/08/11 ST-A12-4-61 LF Washington National Airport Fulbert
Youlou, President of the Republic of Congo
61/09/19 ST-210-09-61 DUPLICATE NOT GG-300
61/09/19 ST-210-10-61 NOT GG-300
61/09/19 ST-210-12-61 DUPLICATE NOT GG-300
61/09/19 ST-210-12A-61 White Lincoln
62/05/22 AR 7260-D RF Félix
Houphouët-Boigny, President of Ivory Coast
62/05/23 KN-C21940 LF Félix
Houphouët-Boigny, President of Ivory Coast
62/11/12 STC-80-12-62 RF
62/11/12 STC-80-13-62 RF DUPLICATE
62/11/26 ST-A9-1-62 L
62/11/26 ST-A9-10-62 RR Key West, Florida White
Lincoln V.F. 101
62/11/26 ST-A9-11-62 RR Boca Chica NAS, Florida White
Lincoln V.F. 101
62/11/26 ST-499-2-62 L Homestead AFB, Florida White
Lincoln V.F. 101
62/11/26 ST-499-21-62 LF Boca Chica NAS, Florida White
Lincoln V.F. 101
62/11/26 ST-499-22-62 LF Boca Chica NAS, Florida White
Lincoln V.F. 101
62/11/26 ST-499-23-62 LF Boca Chica NAS, Florida White
Lincoln V.F. 101
62/11/26 ST-499-26-62 LF Boca Chica NAS, Florida White
Lincoln V.F. 101
62/11/26 ST-499-32-62 L Homestead AFB, Florida White
Lincoln V.F. 101
62/11/26 STC-80-2-62
62/11/26 STC-80-5-62
62/11/26 STC-80-9-62 RF
62/11/26 STC-80-13-62 RF
63/01/21 KN-26120 NOT IN FOLDER
63/02/20 STC-35-1-63 RF Washington, D.C. Rómulo
Betancourt, President of Venezuela
63/02/20 STC-35-3-63 LF Washington, D.C. Rómulo
Betancourt, President of Venezuela
63/02/20 STC-35-4-63 LF Washington, D.C. Rómulo
Betancourt, President of Venezuela
63/02/20 STC-35-5-63 LF Washington, D.C. Rómulo
Betancourt, President of Venezuela
63/02/20 STC-35-6-63 LF Washington, D.C. Rómulo
Betancourt, President of Venezuela
63/02/20 STC-35-7-63 RF Washington, D.C. Rómulo
Betancourt, President of Venezuela
63/02/20 STC-35-8-63 RF Washington, D.C. Rómulo
Betancourt, President of Venezuela
63/02/20 STC-35-9-63 RF Washington, D.C. Rómulo
Betancourt, President of Venezuela
63/02/20 STC-35-10-63 RF Washington, D.C. Rómulo
Betancourt, President of Venezuela
63/02/20 STC-35-11-63 LF Washington, D.C. Rómulo
Betancourt, President of Venezuela
63/02/20 STC-35-12-63 RF Washington, D.C. Rómulo
Betancourt, President of Venezuela
63/02/20 STC-35-13-63 RF Washington, D.C. Rómulo
Betancourt, President of Venezuela
63/02/20 STC-35-14-63 RF Washington, D.C. Rómulo
Betancourt, President of Venezuela
63/02/20 STC-35-15-63 RF Washington, D.C. Rómulo
Betancourt, President of Venezuela
63/02/20 STC-35-16-63 RF Washington, D.C. Rómulo
Betancourt, President of Venezuela
63/02/20 STC-35-17-63 R Washington, D.C. Rómulo
Betancourt, President of Venezuela
63/02/20 STC-35-18-63 RF Washington, D.C. Rómulo
Betancourt, President of Venezuela
63/02/20 STC-35-19-63 LF Washington, D.C. Rómulo
Betancourt, President of Venezuela
63/02/20 STC-35-20-63
63/02/27 KNC-26912 L Washington, D.C.
63/03/27 AR 7791-I RF Washington, D.C. Hassan II,
King of Morocco
63/03/27 AR 7791-J RF Washington, D.C. Hassan II,
King of Morocco
63/03/27 AR 7791-K RF Washington, D.C. Hassan II,
King of Morocco
63/03/27 AR 7791-L RF Washington, D.C. Hassan II,
King of Morocco
63/03/27 AR 7791-N R Washington, D.C. Hassan II,
King of Morocco
63/03/27 STC-57-2-63
63/03/27 STC-57-4-63 LF
63/03/27 STC-57-7-63 L
63/03/27 STC-57-12-63
63/06/04 KNC-28938 R
63/06/04 KNC-28939 REAR
63/06/04 KNC-28940 R
63/06/04 KNC-28941 R
63/06/04 STC-200-1-63
63/06/04 STC-200-9-63
63/06/04 STC-200-10-63 LF
63/06/04 STC-200-11-63 L
63/06/04 STC-200-16-63 L
63/06/06? STC-206-46-63 LF
63/06/8 STC-206-24-63 LF night
63/06/8 STC-206-41-63 RR night
63/06/20 STC-219-7-63 L
63/06/20 STC-219-13-63 R
63/06/25 KNC-29254 LF
63/06/25 KNC-29260 L
63/06/25 KNC-29321 RF
63/06/25 STA-7-5-63
63/06/25 STC-230-12-63
63/06/25 STC-230-24-63
63/06/25 STC-230-28-63
63/06/26 KNC-29293
63/06/26 WHCF GI 2-12/H R West Berlin, Germany SS agents
standing on rear bumper of limo
63/09/06 KNC-29905
63/09/06 KNC-29906 REAR
63/09/06 KNC-29907
63/09/06 KNC-29908
63/09/06 KNC-29909
63/09/06 KNC-29910
63/09/06 KNC-29911
63/09/06 KNC-29912
63/09/06 KNC-29918
63/10/01 KNC-30047 Washington, D.C. Haile Selassie,
Emperor of Ethiopia
63/10/01 KNC-30048 Washington, D.C. Haile Selassie,
Emperor of Ethiopia
63/10/01 KNC-30049 Washington, D.C. Haile Selassie,
Emperor of Ethiopia
63/10/01 KNC-30055 Washington, D.C. Haile Selassie,
Emperor of Ethiopia
63/10/01 KNC-30057 Washington, D.C. Haile Selassie,
Emperor of Ethiopia
63/10/01 KNC-30058 Washington, D.C. Haile Selassie,
Emperor of Ethiopia
63/10/01 STC-307-1-63 Washington, D.C. Haile Selassie,
Emperor of Ethiopia
63/10/01 STC-307-4-63 Washington, D.C. Haile Selassie,
Emperor of Ethiopia
63/10/01 STC-307-6-63 Washington, D.C. Haile Selassie,
Emperor of Ethiopia
63/10/01 STC-307-22-63 Washington, D.C. Haile Selassie,
Emperor of Ethiopia
63/10/01 STC-307-33-63 Washington, D.C. Haile Selassie,
Emperor of Ethiopia
63/10/01 STC-307-34-63 Washington, D.C. Haile Selassie,
Emperor of Ethiopia
63/10/10 KN-24461
63/10/15 STC-336-2-63
63/10/15 STC-336-3-63 L Washington, D.C. Georgios
Papandreou, Prime Minister of Greece
63/10/15 STC-333-15-63 Washington, D.C. Georgios
Papandreou, Prime Minister of Greece
63/10/15 STC-336-16-63 Washington, D.C. Georgios
Papandreou, Prime Minister of Greece
63/11/18 STC-401-23-63 Tampa, FLorida rear seat raised
63/11/18 STC-401-24-63 Tampa, FLorida rear seat raised
63/11/22 STC-420-46-63 Fort Worth, Texas White limo with
red trim
63/11/22 STC-420-47-63 Fort Worth, Texas WHite limo with
red trim
63/11/22 STC-420-48-63 Fort Worth, Texas WHite limo with
red trim
63/11/22 STC-420-14-63 Kelly AFB San Antonio,TX chrome topping
is undented
63/11/22 STC-420-95-63 Kelly AFB San Antonio,TX chrome topping
is undented
63/11/22 ST-420-21-63 REAR Main St. Dallas, Texas VP SS follow-up
car door is open
63/11/22 ST-420-22-63 Elm St. Dallas, Texas shows Newman
family on the ground
63/11/22 ST-527-1-63 LR Parkland Hospital, Dallas bubbletop has
been taken out of the trunk
63/11/22 ST-527-2-63 RR Parkland Hospital, Dallas bubbletop has
not been put on yet
63/11/22 ST-527-3-63 RR Parkland Hospital, Dallas bubbletop has
not been put on yet
63/11/22 ST-527-4-63 LR Parkland Hospital, Dallas bucket of water
next to LR door, putting top on
63/11/22 ST-527-5-63 LR Parkland Hospital, Dallas bucket of water
next to LR door, top is on

[jecorb...@yahoo.com]

I've always been fascinated by how much people are willing to pay to own a
piece of history. I used to watch Pawn Stars a lot and the collectible
value of something associated with a celebrity or an historical event is
amazing. Of course the true value of anything is what someone is willing
to pay for it. These items have little intrinsic value but because there
are enough people who want to own them, the value goes way up. I would
guess that a Lincoln from that time frame that had been kept in good
condition would likely be worth about a tenth of that sale price if it
were not associated with the assassination.

[jecorb...@yahoo.com]

On Saturday, December 7, 2019 at 10:03:20 PM UTC-5, David Von Pein wrote:

It will be interesting to know what the rocking chair sold for. The
article indicates he had 14 such chairs so that would probably drive the
price down. The one he had in the Oval Office was made by L.L. Bean and
they have been selling that same rocking chair since the 1930s. I own one.
I forget what I paid for it about 20 years ago but it was under $100. I
suspect the one at auction sold for a wee bit more.