LHO is laughing at you

[claviger]

LHO would enjoy the chaos he created. All this attention by CTs but he
would be both amused and irritated so many of them feel the need to create
numerous, complicated conspiracy scenarios to explain what he did by his
own efforts with a cheap mail order milsurp rifle. The utter simplicity
of his devious solitary planning that created so much stupefaction would
be overwhelmed in the deluge of Conspiracy Theories. For all you CTs
around the world, LHO is laughing at you not with you for compounding the
misery of his assault on an American hero for over half a Century.

[bigdog]

I think Oswald would be pissed that so many people have refused to give
him credit for the one thing he succeeded at in his whole miserable excuse
for a life.

[claviger]

Yes and LHO would no doubt have mixed emotions about CTs. Some who most
definitely underestimate him, and in so doing deprive him of his only
accomplishment in a secretive career as the lowest ranking soldier,
sniper, martyred Marxist true believer. Arrogant CTs say he just got
lucky at best.

[Anthony Marsh]

Then why didn't he say that he shot JFK?

[BOZ]

Marsh said before "WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HE SAID." Then why didn't he say
that he shot JFK? "WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HE SAID"

[Steve Barber]

Why would he? Had he, he would never have received the attention he has
been receiving for 55 years. You don't give your hero any credit, Marsh.
He's the one who once said "I want to give the American people something
to think about". Oswald was playing the cops for all he could get.

[David Von Pein]

On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 7:27:35 PM UTC-4, Anthony Marsh wrote:

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1313.html#Why-Did-Oswald-Deny-Killing-President-Kennedy

[David Von Pein]

On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 7:27:35 PM UTC-4, Anthony Marsh wrote:

According to one radio station in Dallas (KBOX), Oswald *did* say he shot
the President....

Wouldn't it be nice if this quote below were true?....

"I killed me a President and a cop, now all I need is two more."

The above quote was allegedly spoken by Lee Harvey Oswald, according to
many news reports heard on KBOX Radio in Dallas on 11/22/63 [go to 19:00
in the video linked below for the first such report].

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B66zFAvTgxxIelJpRllDbjcxckU/view

Interestingly, though, KBOX was the *only* radio or television outlet
(that I'm aware of) which was reporting that Oswald had actually confessed
to "all three shootings" (JFK, Connally, and Tippit).

I wonder where on Earth the KBOX reporters came up with such wholly
erroneous information regarding Oswald supposedly confessing to the
murders of both JFK and Officer Tippit? Very strange reporting indeed.

And KBOX made several other mistakes in their reporting that day
too....such as when they claimed that policeman J.D. Tippit fired a shot
into the air in the Texas Theater (which strikes me as kind of hilarious).
And KBOX also incorrectly said that Tippit was a "Detective" and that his
partner was "Detective" M.N. McDonald, which is not true either. McDonald
was neither a detective nor Tippit's partner on 11/22/63.

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/05/jfk-assassination-media-errors.html

[claviger]

More fun to play the innocent patsy and get
sympathy from gullible people like you.

[bigdog]

Unless he was really, really stupid, he knew he was going to be convicted
and sentenced to die. I'm sure he had already figured that into the
equation before he shot JFK. He was willing to trade his life for the
president's. It wasn't necessary for him to take credit for the
assassination. He was going to get that and he knew it. My guess is he
simply didn't want to make it easy for anybody because he was a miserable
little SOB. He didn't figure on Jack Ruby coming in preventing him from
enjoying his new found infamy.

[Anthony Marsh]

On 3/17/2019 3:33 PM, David Von Pein wrote:
> On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 7:27:35 PM UTC-4, Anthony Marsh wrote:
>> On 3/13/2019 4:50 PM, bigdog wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 8:54:57 PM UTC-4, claviger wrote:
>>>> LHO would enjoy the chaos he created. All this attention by CTs but he
>>>> would be both amused and irritated so many of them feel the need to create
>>>> numerous, complicated conspiracy scenarios to explain what he did by his
>>>> own efforts with a cheap mail order milsurp rifle. The utter simplicity
>>>> of his devious solitary planning that created so much stupefaction would
>>>> be overwhelmed in the deluge of Conspiracy Theories. For all you CTs
>>>> around the world, LHO is laughing at you not with you for compounding the
>>>> misery of his assault on an American hero for over half a Century.
>>>
>>> I think Oswald would be pissed that so many people have refused to give
>>> him credit for the one thing he succeeded at in his whole miserable excuse
>>> for a life.
>>>
>>
>> Then why didn't he say that he shot JFK?
>
> According to one radio station in Dallas (KBOX), Oswald *did* say he shot
> the President....
>
> Wouldn't it be nice if this quote below were true?....
>
> "I killed me a President and a cop, now all I need is two more."
>

False story. But thanks for repeating it. Let's us know how you evaluate
evidence.

[Anthony Marsh]

You seem to be new here. I have said many times that I think Oswald
wanted a show trial.

[Steve M. Galbraith]

I think it's more likely that he expected to die in the act; but once he
survived he came up with a different plan. That was to play the victim,
put the US on trial and argue that he was some sort of political prisoner.
It's all part of his dislike of the US economic and political systems. And
also why (speculating) his act was in part motivated by politics and not
simply to be in the history books.

It's why, I think, he insisted on getting John Abt as his lawyer. Abt was
known for defending Marxists and communists (he was secretly a member of
the CPUSA at the time and had been a Soviet spy during the thirties and
forties as part of the infamous Ware group) and he would essentially put
the government on trial.

As I've said before, I've always found it curious that Abt didn't jump at
the opportunity to defend Oswald. My guess is that he needed to contact
his superiors at the CPUSA to find out what he should do. And since the
CPUSA was totally subservient to the USSR I would suggest they would have
to find out what Moscow wanted.

This event was mostly about an oddball killing the president. But there
are a lot of interesting stories around it. I think it's why it still
fascinates us. Well, me.

[Anthony Marsh]

On 3/17/2019 9:04 PM, bigdog wrote:
> On Sunday, March 17, 2019 at 3:30:35 PM UTC-4, Steve Barber wrote:
>> On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 7:27:35 PM UTC-4, Anthony Marsh wrote:
>>> On 3/13/2019 4:50 PM, bigdog wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 8:54:57 PM UTC-4, claviger wrote:
>>>>> LHO would enjoy the chaos he created. All this attention by CTs but he
>>>>> would be both amused and irritated so many of them feel the need to create
>>>>> numerous, complicated conspiracy scenarios to explain what he did by his
>>>>> own efforts with a cheap mail order milsurp rifle. The utter simplicity
>>>>> of his devious solitary planning that created so much stupefaction would
>>>>> be overwhelmed in the deluge of Conspiracy Theories. For all you CTs
>>>>> around the world, LHO is laughing at you not with you for compounding the
>>>>> misery of his assault on an American hero for over half a Century.
>>>>
>>>> I think Oswald would be pissed that so many people have refused to give
>>>> him credit for the one thing he succeeded at in his whole miserable excuse
>>>> for a life.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Then why didn't he say that he shot JFK?
>>
>> Why would he? Had he, he would never have received the attention he has
>> been receiving for 55 years. You don't give your hero any credit, Marsh.
>> He's the one who once said "I want to give the American people something
>> to think about". Oswald was playing the cops for all he could get.
>
> Unless he was really, really stupid, he knew he was going to be convicted
> and sentenced to die. I'm sure he had already figured that into the
> equation before he shot JFK. He was willing to trade his life for the

Who? You mean the CIA sniper or Oswald? Did Oswald anticipate that when
he shot at Walker? Was that in the note he wrote to Marina?

[claviger]

LHO replaced JFK as the center of attention. If the Mortal Error Theory
is true it robbed LHO of the grim satisfaction of killing a Free
Enterprise Anti-Communist President of the USA and Leader of the Free
World.

[Anthony Marsh]

Maybe he was going to get shot by Baker, but Truly vouched for Oswald
and saved his life.

> survived he came up with a different plan. That was to play the victim,
> put the US on trial and argue that he was some sort of political prisoner.
> It's all part of his dislike of the US economic and political systems. And
> also why (speculating) his act was in part motivated by politics and not
> simply to be in the history books.
>
> It's why, I think, he insisted on getting John Abt as his lawyer. Abt was
> known for defending Marxists and communists (he was secretly a member of
> the CPUSA at the time and had been a Soviet spy during the thirties and
> forties as part of the infamous Ware group) and he would essentially put
> the government on trial.
>
> As I've said before, I've always found it curious that Abt didn't jump at
> the opportunity to defend Oswald. My guess is that he needed to contact

I think ABT was smart enough to not get involved. It would have been
seen as protecting a Soviet asset.

[Hank Sienzant (AKA Joe Zircon)]

Why yes, yes he did anticipate being killed in the attempt on Walker.
And yes, yes it was in the note he wrote to Marina.

Thanks for asking.

What part of "If I am alive and taken prisoner" didn't you understand?

See paragraph 11 here: https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/html/WH_Vol16_0013b.htm

[claviger]

For that reason alone I would prefer the Mortal Error Theory. Heard a
rumor even more technical evidence to support the Donahue Theory.
Will have to wait and see.

[bigdog]

I'm quite sure Oswald never heard of Mortal Error. He knew he did it.

[Anthony Marsh]

JUNK

[claviger]

He never confessed he did it. If he missed the closest shot do
you think there is a possibility he missed the longest shot too?

[claviger]

We shall see.

[bigdog]

Given the evidence, no, that is not possible.

[claviger]

Not possible for a nervous amateur sniper to miss the 1st shot?

Not possible for an inexperienced sniper to miss a hurried 3rd shot?

[bigdog]

In a vacuum, of course that would be possible. But we have evidence that
tells us conclusively Oswald did not miss his third shot. He almost
certainly missed the first one. If I had absolute proof of when the first
shot was fired, then I would state that as a fact but theoretically, the
second shot miss scenario offered by the WC remains a very remote
possibility. I would put the odds of that being correct at less than 1%.