Nice review of "I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak" by Max Holland

[fred....@gmail.com]

https://www.washingtondecoded.com/site/2018/12/index.html

"Now Fred Litwin, in his new book, I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak,
traces his transformation from a young, energetic conspiracist to the
vigorous debunker he is today. The result is a brisk, bracing, witty, and
surprisingly comprehensive read, and one that ought to be considered by
anyone in Generation Z who is intrigued by the assassination and thinking
of joining the research community."

Fred

[John McAdams]

On 19 Dec 2018 22:51:40 -0500, "Fred....@gmail.com"

People who would like a taste of the book before they buy the whole
thing should check out the chapter on Garrison:

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/Litwin_garrison.htm

If one wants a rock-solid overview of Garrison's bogus "case" in one
readable essay, this is it.

.John
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[Steve M. Galbraith]

It is fascinating - and revealing - that the same conspiracy advocates who
complain about Oswald's rights somehow being violated by the WC then turn
around and defend, indeed fully support, Garrison. Garrison accused Oswald
- in court - of conspiring to kill JFK. And assorted other criminal acts.

But Garrison's treatment of Oswald apparently wasn't violating his rights
but the WC's treatment somehow did.

Yes, years later Garrison said Oswald wasn't involved. And yes, there are
many decent conspiracy people who have denounced Garrison, e.g., Lifton et
al. I am not referring to that group.

[Bud]

On Wednesday, December 19, 2018 at 11:06:17 PM UTC-5, John McAdams wrote:

So basically Garrison was a homophobe who persecuted gays and saw gay
plots everywhere. No wonder he is so popular with the conspiracy crowd.

[John McAdams]

Actually, Garrison's theory of a gay cabal was pretty casual. He
would latch onto anything, and he quickly abandoned that for leftist
theories being pressed by the leftist buffs who joined his
"investigation."

The movie "JFK" is another matter. It hits the "gay" angle really
hard, and can fairly be called "homophobic."

.John
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

[Bud]

On Saturday, December 22, 2018 at 8:53:49 AM UTC-5, John McAdams wrote:
> On 22 Dec 2018 08:51:27 -0500, Bud <sirs...@fast.net> wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, December 19, 2018 at 11:06:17 PM UTC-5, John McAdams wrote:
> >> On 19 Dec 2018 22:51:40 -0500, "Fred....@gmail.com"
> >> <fred....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >https://www.washingtondecoded.com/site/2018/12/index.html
> >> >
> >> >"Now Fred Litwin, in his new book, I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak,
> >> >traces his transformation from a young, energetic conspiracist to the
> >> >vigorous debunker he is today. The result is a brisk, bracing, witty, and
> >> >surprisingly comprehensive read, and one that ought to be considered by
> >> >anyone in Generation Z who is intrigued by the assassination and thinking
> >> >of joining the research community."
> >> >
> >>
> >> People who would like a taste of the book before they buy the whole
> >> thing should check out the chapter on Garrison:
> >>
> >> http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/Litwin_garrison.htm
> >>
> >> If one wants a rock-solid overview of Garrison's bogus "case" in one
> >> readable essay, this is it.
> >>
> >> .John
> >> -----------------------
> >> http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
> >
> >
> > So basically Garrison was a homophobe who persecuted gays and saw gay
> >plots everywhere. No wonder he is so popular with the conspiracy crowd.
> >
>
> Actually, Garrison's theory of a gay cabal was pretty casual.

His anti-gay fervor seemed a driving force. And it wasn`t just a
political tool (strange that New Orleans would care about such an issue,
you`d think they`d have a tourist campaign of "Come Visit Our Gay Bars!"),
it seems it permeated Garrison`s thinking.

But this was a subtle attack on the leftist conspiracy mongers that
frequent this newsgroup. In general leftists favor false narratives and
victim identity, so I just saw this as a way to rattle their cages (I use
Oswald`s wife beating to the same effect. Of course if Howard Brennan beat
his wife rather than Oswald, "wife-beater" would appear in front of his
name every time he was mentioned). Tony uses "guilt by association"
tactics all the time, so this is just turnabouts, and it is fair play.

[Steve M. Galbraith]

As you know (of maybe forgot since it's like most of this nonsense
surrounding this event), Holland argues that Garrison latched onto "the
CIA did it" after reading those claims in that Italian communist newspaper
about an alleged CIA front company that Shaw served, perfunctorily, on its
board of directors.

His piece is here: https://www.washingtondecoded.com/site/files/the_demon_in_jim_garrison.pdf

This led to Oliver Stone's angry response.

As I've said repeatedly (and I need to stop), the assassination is an
event that many people use - particularly ideologues on the right and left
- to convey their personal grievances with the world. For those
ideologues, it's this ubiquitous "they" that literally run everything.

[Anthony Marsh]

No, that's insane. He just noticed a pattern. If every suspect he ran into
was Itlalian I'm sure you'd be saying that he was prejudiced against the
Mafia.

[Anthony Marsh]

On Saturday, December 22, 2018 at 8:53:49 AM UTC-5, John McAdams wrote:
> On 22 Dec 2018 08:51:27 -0500, Bud <sirs...@fast.net> wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, December 19, 2018 at 11:06:17 PM UTC-5, John McAdams wrote:
> >> On 19 Dec 2018 22:51:40 -0500, "Fred....@gmail.com"
> >> <fred....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >https://www.washingtondecoded.com/site/2018/12/index.html
> >> >
> >> >"Now Fred Litwin, in his new book, I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak,
> >> >traces his transformation from a young, energetic conspiracist to the
> >> >vigorous debunker he is today. The result is a brisk, bracing, witty, and
> >> >surprisingly comprehensive read, and one that ought to be considered by
> >> >anyone in Generation Z who is intrigued by the assassination and thinking
> >> >of joining the research community."
> >> >
> >>
> >> People who would like a taste of the book before they buy the whole
> >> thing should check out the chapter on Garrison:
> >>
> >> http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/Litwin_garrison.htm
> >>
> >> If one wants a rock-solid overview of Garrison's bogus "case" in one
> >> readable essay, this is it.
> >>
> >> .John
> >> -----------------------
> >> http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
> >
> >
> > So basically Garrison was a homophobe who persecuted gays and saw gay
> >plots everywhere. No wonder he is so popular with the conspiracy crowd.
> >
>
> Actually, Garrison's theory of a gay cabal was pretty casual. He

Was that a typo? Did you mean to type in the word CAUSAL?
It was just luck that all his suspects were gay. They did not plot
to kill the President BECAUSE they were gay.

> would latch onto anything, and he quickly abandoned that for leftist
> theories being pressed by the leftist buffs who joined his
> "investigation."
>

And I think some of us LEFTISTS privately talked to him and pointed out
how ridiculous it was to fixate on the gay part. Not all CIA agents are
gay.

> The movie "JFK" is another matter. It hits the "gay" angle really
> hard, and can fairly be called "homophobic."
>

I think it's called Hollywood. It always over dramatizes.

> .John
> -----------------------
> http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

[Ramon F Herrera]

On 12/22/2018 7:53 AM, John McAdams wrote:
> The movie "JFK" is another matter. It hits the "gay" angle really
> hard, and can fairly be called "homophobic."
>
> .John
> -----------------------

Sir:

Would you support a public call to Oliver Stone (*) to make a revised,
updated version? Hmm, he has claimed to be done with that, the movie
aspect. Scratch that...

Perhaps to have his FX and 3D designers joining the initiative to create
something of this nature?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gpc1XMupQ5I

Should Stone join PBS, Scientific Analysis and its head designer Mike
McCormick who decided to stick on the side of science, advanced
technology, open files and The Truth (whatever it turns out to be)? Should
we continue working, based on the most advanced simulation of the shooting
done in 2013?

[Yes] [No] [I recently chose not to matter in the JFK Case]

-Ramon
JFK Numbers

(*) We can easily reach Ollie, though His Holiness, Cyril I.

NB: You do not have to answer right away, prof. It is just a courtesy
heads up. I am not worthy. Your peers will be publicly asking you Leaders
of the LN movements those questions and more, which will not go away.

[John McAdams]

On 23 Dec 2018 13:09:04 -0500, Ramon F Herrera <ra...@jfknumbers.org>
wrote:

>On 12/22/2018 7:53 AM, John McAdams wrote:
>> The movie "JFK" is another matter. It hits the "gay" angle really
>> hard, and can fairly be called "homophobic."
>>
>> .John
>> -----------------------
>
>Sir:
>
>Would you support a public call to Oliver Stone (*) to make a revised,
>updated version?

Sure. Let's also find somebody to make a "revisd, updated" anti-Nazi
version of "Triumph of the Will."

And an anti-Klan version of "Birth of a Nation."

.John
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[Bud]

Most of the ideas of the conspiracy crowd are.

> He just noticed a pattern.

That is a big part of the conspiracy hobby.

> If every suspect he ran into
> was Itlalian I'm sure you'd be saying that he was prejudiced against the
> Mafia.

Are you saying all Italians are in the Mafia? And that the correct
response would be to close down Italian restaurants?