Some Guy is Really Mad About My Website

[John McAdams]

Just got this in my e-mail:

<Quote on>

From: Salvator Perrone <salvat...@msn.com>

You are really full of yourself. I could only stomach to read a couple
of your self serving diatribes. Seventy -eight percent of the American
people ( who do not believe the children's book called the Warren
Commission) got it all wrong but YOU got it right. You are the
champion of the truth and you are the ultimate truth seeker.
I will make two comments. First, you make this blanket statement that
we ( you know the ones who think there is more to Kennedy's murder)
believe the the Warren Commission were a bunch of idiots.

Nooooooooooooo, they were not idiots. We now know there are millions
of classified documents that they did not have access to some of which
have been made public but many have not Secondly, the commission who
reopened the investigation into President Kennedy's murder in 1978
concluded that, in fact, his murder was the work of a conspiracy. They
even went so far as to name two likely candidates who were involved in
such a conspiracy Yes I know. I have wasted your time because unlike
many of us YOU are a very gifted individual who can peer through all
the noise and see things for what they are FUCK YOU

<end quote>

.John
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

[Robert Harris]

Salvator's complaints are not the real problem with your website, John.
The real problem is that it promotes a theory that you will not and cannot
defend.

I must know that you are wrong. What I don't understand is, why you
continue to pitch this sewage, which undermines the historical integrity
of your country.

If you wish to deny that, as you usually do, please explain why you evade
a mountain of evidence and analysis which proves Oswald didn't act alone.


Robert Harris

[John McAdams]

On 27 Jul 2016 23:53:41 -0400, Robert Harris <bobha...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Salvator's complaints are not the real problem with your website, John.
>The real problem is that it promotes a theory that you will not and cannot
>defend.
>
>I must know that you are wrong. What I don't understand is, why you
>continue to pitch this sewage, which undermines the historical integrity
>of your country.
>
>If you wish to deny that, as you usually do, please explain why you evade
>a mountain of evidence and analysis which proves Oswald didn't act alone.
>

That's like demanding that I explain why I haven't seen a unicorn,
Bob.

.John
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

[claviger]

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 11:02:34 PM UTC-5, John McAdams wrote:
> Just got this in my e-mail:
>
> <Quote on>
>
> From: Salvator Perrone <salvat...@msn.com>
>
> You are really full of yourself. I could only stomach to read a couple
> of your self serving diatribes.

He's not the only one. Most posters here are capable of making self
serving diatribes too. In fact, those rants stimulate debate just like
this diatribe by you.

> Seventy-eight percent of the American people ( who do not believe

> the children's book called the Warren Commission) got it all wrong
> but YOU got it right. You are the champion of the truth and you are
> the ultimate truth seeker.

Wrong. I am the ultimate truth seeker who supports the most unpopular
theory of all.

> I will make two comments. First, you make this blanket statement that
> we ( you know the ones who think there is more to Kennedy's murder)
> believe the the Warren Commission were a bunch of idiots.
> Nooooooooooooo, they were not idiots. We now know there are millions
> of classified documents that they did not have access to some of which

> have been made public but many have not.

Millions? Where did you get that number?

> Secondly, the commission who reopened the investigation into President
> Kennedy's murder in 1978 concluded that, in fact, his murder was the work
> of a conspiracy. They even went so far as to name two likely candidates who

> were involved in such a conspiracy.

Never heard that before. Who did they name? Blakey and Cornwell believed
the Mob was behind it but I don't remember them officially accusing any
suspects by name.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=800#relPageId=9&tab=page

A witness claimed he was a cellmate with Marcello who confided he ordered
the hit on JFK. Hoffa was a prime suspect too. Are those the two likely
candidates you're referring to?

> Yes I know. I have wasted your time because unlike many of us YOU are a
> very gifted individual who can peer through all the noise and see things for

> what they are.

So can I and a few others on this Newsgroup.

[David Von Pein]

It must be "that time of year" for CTers to come out of the woodwork and
send unsolicited e-mails to LNers, because I have been receiving some
e-mails too, coming from a guy named Phil who keeps wanting to ignore all
of the "Oswald Did It" evidence (as all Internet CTers have a habit of
doing).

And to make sure my replies to him don't go to waste....

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1158.html

[mainframetech]

Geez! If the subject matter wee a little different, I would have sworn
that was from one of the kooky LNs floating around out there!


Well, as wrong as he is, I would defend McAdams's right (well, maybe
not to the death) to express his viewpoint just as he allows us to do the
same. Why not just ignore the ignoramus and see what happens?

Chris

[stevemg...@yahoo.com]

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 11:02:34 PM UTC-5, John McAdams wrote:

Strong e-mail to follow.

[Ace Kefford]

On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 12:02:34 AM UTC-4, John McAdams wrote:

I think the only reply should be, "We have to agree to disagree."

[Robert Harris]

John, you are about to prove that what you just said is pure
bullshit.

Will you discuss issues with me, many of which, you have
NEVER in over 20 years, discussed?




Robert Harris

[Anthony Marsh]

Well, I did defend McAdams' life.

> same. Why not just ignore the ignoramus and see what happens?
>

Do you know what a Ping is, Mr. Mainframetech?

> Chris
>
>

[Anthony Marsh]

YOU incite it. By all the nonsense you post on your Web site.
Then you sneak in here to attack them behind their backs.

[Anthony Marsh]

On 7/27/2016 11:56 PM, claviger wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 11:02:34 PM UTC-5, John McAdams wrote:
>> Just got this in my e-mail:
>>
>> <Quote on>
>>
>> From: Salvator Perrone <salvat...@msn.com>
>>
>> You are really full of yourself. I could only stomach to read a couple
>> of your self serving diatribes.
>
> He's not the only one. Most posters here are capable of making self
> serving diatribes too. In fact, those rants stimulate debate just like
> this diatribe by you.
>
>> Seventy-eight percent of the American people ( who do not believe
>> the children's book called the Warren Commission) got it all wrong
>> but YOU got it right. You are the champion of the truth and you are
>> the ultimate truth seeker.
>
> Wrong. I am the ultimate truth seeker who supports the most unpopular
> theory of all.
>

I am wondering if THAT is WHY you sought out the most unpopular theory?
Couldn't you work hardere and find an even more unpopular theory? What
about the Sabot theory? How many believed that? Maybe only one and now
he's gone. Maybe you could pick up his mantle.

>> I will make two comments. First, you make this blanket statement that
>> we ( you know the ones who think there is more to Kennedy's murder)
>> believe the the Warren Commission were a bunch of idiots.
>> Nooooooooooooo, they were not idiots. We now know there are millions
>> of classified documents that they did not have access to some of which
>> have been made public but many have not.
>
> Millions? Where did you get that number?
>
>> Secondly, the commission who reopened the investigation into President
>> Kennedy's murder in 1978 concluded that, in fact, his murder was the work
>> of a conspiracy. They even went so far as to name two likely candidates who
>> were involved in such a conspiracy.
>
> Never heard that before. Who did they name? Blakey and Cornwell believed
> the Mob was behind it but I don't remember them officially accusing any
> suspects by name.
>

Trafficante. Not that I agree with them.
He means the HSCA, not exactly a commission.

[Anthony Marsh]

Oh, I see. So if you don't see it yourself in person it does not exist. So
gravity does not exist to you. And God does not exist to you. And we
really didn't land on the moon because you weren't there to see it.

> .John
> -----------------------
> http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
>

[Jason Burke]

Aw, how cute. Bob's attempting to find a playmate again!

[BOZ]

Robert your videos are pure bovine excrement.

[Anthony Marsh]

You mean .John, our .John refused to discuss unicorns with you?
He was nice enough to discuss Bigfoot with me. Did you ask him nicely?
How come YOU will never discuss ANYTHING with ME? Too afraid?
Easier to bully .John?

[Jason Burke]

Ain't there one of them there Latin phrases for ^^this^^, Tony?

>
>> .John
>> -----------------------
>> http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
>>
>
>

[bigdog]

I'll have to take your word for that since I've never been able to stay
awake through one of them.

[John Reagor King]

In article <8c401fc7-3343-4286...@googlegroups.com>,

claviger <histori...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 11:02:34 PM UTC-5, John McAdams wrote:
>
> > I will make two comments. First, you make this blanket statement that
> > we ( you know the ones who think there is more to Kennedy's murder)
> > believe the the Warren Commission were a bunch of idiots.
> > Nooooooooooooo, they were not idiots. We now know there are millions
> > of classified documents that they did not have access to some of which
> > have been made public but many have not.
>
> Millions? Where did you get that number?

Yeah, that was the part that made me boggle, hehehe.

[Anthony Marsh]

Argumentum ex Silentio.

>>
>>> .John
>>> -----------------------
>>> http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Mark OBLAZNEY]

Salvatore should debate you over at JFK facts, John. Just sayin'

[Steve Barber]

Red Rover-Red Rover, let Robert come over!

[tomnln]

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no surprise considering that ypou also slept through the 26 volumes ! ! !
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>

[Jason Burke]

AT LEAST CORBETT CAN READ. HE ALSO CAN WRITE COHERENTLY.

[mainframetech]

There may be some out there that doubt that.

Chris

[Jason Burke]

I'm thinking that's kinda doubtful, Chris.

[Piotr Mancini]

On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 10:56:52 PM UTC-5, claviger wrote:
> Millions? Where did you get that number?

The total number of records in the JFK Assassination Collection Database
kept by the National Archives is 319,106.

http://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/search.html

The government claims that the number of those withheld in full is 3,600.
That is the number that they are willing to acknowledge, presumably to be
released on Thursday, October 26, 2017. See recent FOIA and Politico:

http://forum.jfkmurdersolved.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3374
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/why-last-of-jfk-files-could-embarrass-cia-118233

However, the real number is 9,718. You can see this by yourself here:

http://jfknumbers.org/nara-collection/

Just type "POSTPONED_IN_FULL" in the "Current Status" field, and click on
"Submit Search".

You could type "RELEASED_WITH_DELETIONS" in the same field and perform
another search. The number claimed and the real one are close enough.

[Bud]

Ramon F Herrera, I thought you said you were banned from this moderated
enclave.

[Anthony Marsh]

Sure. So you could release 2 million blank pages and claim that is
complying with the law.

[OHLeeRedux]

Anthony Marsh
- show quoted text -

You mean .John, our .John refused to discuss unicorns with you?
He was nice enough to discuss Bigfoot with me. Did you ask him nicely?
How come YOU will never discuss ANYTHING with ME?

Nothing you say ever makes sense.

[Mark OBLAZNEY]

Mancini…….. didn't he write the theme song
to…….. The Pink Panther ?

[stevemg...@yahoo.com]

He's over on the JFK Assassination Forum issuing petitions to force people
to do what he wants.

In one of them he wants the family (!!?) of Luis Alvarez to apologize for
Alvarez's theory of the jet effect.

He personifies everything wrong about the conspiracy crowd.

In fact, he's a caricature of them. I don't know what hole he crawled out
from under but I wish he'd crawl back into it.

[Piotr Mancini]

On Sunday, September 4, 2016 at 9:38:02 PM UTC-5, Bud wrote:

> Ramon F Herrera, I thought you said you were banned from this moderated
> enclave.

I guess it was either a misunderstanding (I was trying to start a thread
about Arizona immigration or something) or professor McAdams decided to
reduce my sentence to time served.

In any event, he invited me to post, as you can see here:

http://www.dealey-plaza.org/~ramon/jfk/Sentence-by-McAdams-is-Commuted.png
http://jfkfacts.org/jfk-hoaxer-vouches-for-trumps-jfk-hoax/#comment-887943

For now, all I have is a Google Groups account under this name, which I
cleverly created in order to outflank the eagle eyes of .John.

-RFH

[Piotr Mancini]

On Monday, September 5, 2016 at 9:15:19 PM UTC-5, stevemg...@yahoo.com wrote:
> He's over on the JFK Assassination Forum issuing petitions to force people
> to do what he wants.

Force people?

> In one of them he wants the family (!!?) of Luis Alvarez to apologize for
> Alvarez's theory of the jet effect.

You forgot the one were We The People demand Time-Life to apologize for
having concealed the Z-film until they had no alternative, and the one
about PBS releasing the laser data that my team urgently needs:

http://www.dealey-plaza.org/

> I don't know what hole he crawled out
> from under but I wish he'd crawl back into it.

Afraid much? Scared? Let me advance that you have every reason to be.

-RFH

[Bud]

This is the story you told me about 10 months ago on the nuthouse...

<Quote on>

After having all posts from "Ramon" rejected, I came up with an idea:

"Ah! I should use a non-Latino name". So I started posting under "Piotr
Mancini", figuring that Russian-Italian was as far as you can get from
Venezuelan.

Months later, the good professor caught on the topics that I prefer and
the people that I follow (well informed CTs, attacking John Deagle) and
began blocking those posts as well.

All this has been mentioned and denounced in the high level JFKFacts
Forum and McAdams will not give any explanation.

Don't believe me? Just create an account with the name "Ramon Herrera"
and attempt to post in alt.assassination.jfk.

-Ramon

<Quote off>

Was anything in that account true?

[Jason Burke]

Well, there ain't anything close to Ramon Herrera in alum.mit.edu. Or
"Ramon" + "Venezuela". Or "Herrera" + "Venezuela".

Just for kicks: One living Mancini. Fifteen living Piotrs.

Just sayin'.

[Anthony Marsh]

I hate to burst your bubble, but ALL messages posted from Google Groups
go into .John's mailbox to be screened. They do not instantly appear in
the Newsgroup.

Google Groups only carries UseNet newsgroups.

[stevemg...@yahoo.com]

You're not asking for these organizations to give you this material: you
say "the people" demand it. "The people" meaning you.

You don't make arguments, you make defamatory statements about people. You
state: Walter Cronkite covered up the murder of JFK, ABC covered it up,
PBS covered it up, other news organizations covered it up.

These are not logical coherent arguments; they are attacks on people's
character and name based on nothing but your radical political views that
sees the world between left and right, good and bad, evil and just.

That's not how the world works. But you're welcome to your sick, twisted
view of it.

[Anthony Marsh]

How many living Burkes?

[Anthony Marsh]

On 9/8/2016 9:46 PM, stevemg...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 9:10:34 PM UTC-5, Piotr Mancini wrote:
>> On Monday, September 5, 2016 at 9:15:19 PM UTC-5, stevemg...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> He's over on the JFK Assassination Forum issuing petitions to force people
>>> to do what he wants.
>>
>> Force people?
>>
>>> In one of them he wants the family (!!?) of Luis Alvarez to apologize for
>>> Alvarez's theory of the jet effect.
>>
>> You forgot the one were We The People demand Time-Life to apologize for
>> having concealed the Z-film until they had no alternative, and the one
>> about PBS releasing the laser data that my team urgently needs:
>>
>> http://www.dealey-plaza.org/
>>
>>> I don't know what hole he crawled out
>>> from under but I wish he'd crawl back into it.
>>
>> Afraid much? Scared? Let me advance that you have every reason to be.
>>
>> -RFH
>
> You're not asking for these organizations to give you this material: you
> say "the people" demand it. "The people" meaning you.
>

We gathered thousands of signatures from "the people"demanding a new
investigation, the HSCA. I don't remember seeing you out there gathering
signatures. You had the corrupt media on your side.

> You don't make arguments, you make defamatory statements about people. You
> state: Walter Cronkite covered up the murder of JFK, ABC covered it up,
> PBS covered it up, other news organizations covered it up.
>

True.

> These are not logical coherent arguments; they are attacks on people's
> character and name based on nothing but your radical political views that
> sees the world between left and right, good and bad, evil and just.
>

Telling the truth about criminals and their cover-ups is not personal
attacks. You would defend Hitler by saying that we shouldn't make
personal attacks against him.
Or Nixon.

> That's not how the world works. But you're welcome to your sick, twisted
> view of it.

It's how the real world works, not your perfect little Pollyanna world
where nothing bad ever happens.

>