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adamlynn

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Jul 12, 2009, 9:25:19 AM7/12/09
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A toothless old dog named hubris

matt

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Jul 12, 2009, 2:44:24 PM7/12/09
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On Jul 12, 6:25 am, adamlynn <adaml...@live.com> wrote:
> A toothless old dog named hubris

licking its balls and anus.
you try to pass without arousing
its attention. however, a slithering
snake named cythera taps
it on the forehead and points
in your direction. as you
walk by, they growl and hiss
in unison.

after that slight melodrama subsides,
you get back to writing your
book. if you get bored, you can
always go back and throw stones
at the toothless bitch and slithering
snake for entertainment.

matt

adamlynn

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Jul 12, 2009, 3:43:28 PM7/12/09
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heh!
Reminds me of a Rimbaud poem
about a priest...I wish I could remember it.....
Good stuff Matt.
I've got nothing against Cythera personally-
(life's too short).

matt

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Jul 12, 2009, 8:59:26 PM7/12/09
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thanks...
i don't have anything against the island of cythera either.
http://www.cruiserlog.com/wiki/index.php?title=Cythera
as far as the anonymous poster that has raped that
name...looks like another recruit for those who claim
to be the authorities of poetry on aapc. i don't mind
chiming in, here and there, on any of them.. but,
you're right...life is too short to get obsessed like
RE does with dockery.

matt

George Dance

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Jul 12, 2009, 9:23:28 PM7/12/09
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> i don't have anything against the island of cythera either.http://www.cruiserlog.com/wiki/index.php?title=Cythera

> as far as the anonymous poster that has raped that
> name...looks like another recruit for those who claim
> to be the authorities of poetry on aapc.  

I think the nym is a reference to Baudelaire's "Voyage to Cythera."

"That dark, grim island there--which would that be?"
"Cythera," we're told, "the legendary isle
Old bachelors tell stories of and smile.
There's really not much to it, you can see."

"And yet," Baudelaire adds, "there was something to see:"

http://www.poets.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/15863

matt

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Jul 12, 2009, 11:06:16 PM7/12/09
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yes-
i believe the anonymous poster even pointed
out this poem in reference to how they came
up with their usenet title.

almost gaudy, in a way, to use that specific
name. it's almost like saying, 'i'm in league
with the great baudelaire...that's why i use
this usenet title.' esp when they, in turn,
go around and tell others what constitutes
a good poem.

seems like an obvious delusion of grandeur.


matt

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Will Dockery

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Jul 13, 2009, 8:15:21 PM7/13/09
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On Jul 12, 3:43 pm, adamlynn <adaml...@live.com> wrote:
> On Jul 12, 2:44 pm, matt <qoph...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jul 12, 6:25 am, adamlynn <adaml...@live.com> wrote:
>
> > > A toothless old dog named hubris
>
> > licking its balls and anus.
> > you try to pass without arousing
> > its attention.  however, a slithering
> > snake named cythera taps
> > it on the forehead and points
> > in your direction.  as you
> > walk by, they growl and hiss
> > in unison.
>
> > after that slight melodrama subsides,
> > you get back to writing your
> > book.  if you get bored, you can
> > always go back and throw stones
> > at the toothless bitch and slithering
> > snake for entertainment.
>
> > matt
>
> heh!
> Reminds me of a Rimbaud poem
> about a priest...I wish I could remember it.....

A friend of mine, Uncle Grumpy, posted an interesting excercise a few
minutes ago, which caused me to pull one of my Rimbaud books from the
shelf, so I may come across it soon. Here's the deal:

UG: "But the idea of sin puts you in a servile condition throughout
your life. The "Power Of Myth" by Joseph Campbell. Grab the nearest
book to you Go to page 56 To the 5th sentence, post in your status.
Post these instructions in your comments. Make sure it's the CLOSEST
book."

WD: "First book, closest, literally, since my knee touches the
bookshelf, is a book of poems by Arthur Rimbaud. Page 56, I felt
lucky, with /Evening Prayer/, fifth line, counting the title line:
'Clenched in teeth, veiled in puffs of impalpable air.' without the
title line as first, not so lucky: 'Like the dung in some old dovecot,
simmering.'

http://quixoticlife.net/art/2007/evening-prayer-arthur-rimbaud

Evening Prayer
By Arthur Rimbaud, trans. Dennis J. Carlile

I live parked, like an angel in a barber's chair,
In my fist a fluted thick mug of beer,
My gullet and gut bend curving, pipe here
Clenched in teeth, veiled in puffs of impalpable air.

Like the dung in some old dovecot, simmering,
Countless Dreams within me gently smolder.
Soon enough my sad heart's like a sapling
Running bloody tears of young and sullen gold.

Then, when I've thoroughly damped down my Dreams,
I turn, after thirty or forty beers,
And address my prayers to a pressing need.

Easy as the Lord of cedar and of hyssops,
I piss to the dark skies, up high and oh-so far,
To the nodding assent of great heliotropes.

> Good stuff Matt.
> I've got nothing against Cythera personally-
> (life's too short).

Same here... in the past, I've had some good discussions with Cythera.
She just seems a bit too /sensitive/ for the poet's life.

--
"Truck Stop Woman" by Dockery & Conley on internet radio:
http://www.wqik.com/new2/artists/i/237770?psid=303942

G&tSP

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Jul 14, 2009, 8:33:49 PM7/14/09
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On Jul 12, 2:44 pm, matt <qoph...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 12, 6:25 am, adamlynn <adaml...@live.com> wrote:
>
> > A toothless old dog named hubris
>

a dog with 5 heads.


> licking its balls and anus.
> you try to pass without arousing
> its attention.  however, a slithering
> snake named

Now, now; no actual names or nyms. You're welcome to Slythera, or
maybe you'd prefer three snakes with fictitious names: say, Slythera,
Gwythera, and Karlythera.

> taps
> it on the forehead and points
> in your direction.  as you
> walk by, they growl and hiss
> in unison.
>
> after that slight melodrama subsides,
> you get back to writing your
> book.  if you get bored, you can
> always go back and throw stones
> at the toothless bitch and slithering
> snake for entertainment.
>
> matt

Cute story otherwise.

matt

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Jul 14, 2009, 11:32:33 PM7/14/09
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On Jul 14, 5:33 pm, "G&tSP" <gand...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> On Jul 12, 2:44 pm, matt <qoph...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 12, 6:25 am, adamlynn <adaml...@live.com> wrote:
>
> > > A toothless old dog named hubris
>
> a dog with 5 heads.
>
> > licking its balls and anus.
> > you try to pass without arousing
> > its attention.  however, a slithering
> > snake named
>
> Now, now; no actual names or nyms. You're welcome to Slythera, or
> maybe you'd prefer three snakes with fictitious names: say, Slythera,
> Gwythera, and Karlythera.

well-
that's a good point. i become a victim of a petard
with the name cythera. however, i'm banking on the
possibility that it may see its own reflection and turn
to stone before i get wind of what's going on.

>
> > taps
> > it on the forehead and points
> > in your direction.  as you
> > walk by, they growl and hiss
> > in unison.
>
> > after that slight melodrama subsides,
> > you get back to writing your
> > book.  if you get bored, you can
> > always go back and throw stones
> > at the toothless bitch and slithering
> > snake for entertainment.
>
> > matt
>
> Cute story otherwise.

thanks-
the sequel stars a stale goosman and a snarla
fighting to the death in a gladiator type arena
for the king and queen: dockery and ross.
tx max is the presiding court jester.
it should be fun.
(another gamble with nyms and names:
yet another bank shot...i'm feeling lucky tonight.)

matt

Peter J Ross

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Jul 17, 2009, 1:28:37 AM7/17/09
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sun, 12 Jul 2009 06:25:19 -0700 (PDT),
adamlynn <adam...@live.com> wrote:

> A toothless old dog named hubris

Went up to a goose and said "Boo, Briss!"
The goose was named Brister
And so was her sister,
Who said, "What I tell you is true, Briss!"

A toothless old wanker named Lynn
Wrote limericks, hoping he'd win.
They none of them scanned,
So all he had planned
Was quickly consigned to the bin.

A pedophile best known as Adam
said, "Children? My God, have I had 'em!
I've given them pain
again and again!"
said that naughty old pedo named Adam.

--
PJR :-)

<http://pjr.lasnobberia.net/verse/>

Peter J Ross

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Jul 17, 2009, 1:30:46 AM7/17/09
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:43:28 -0700 (PDT),
adamlynn <adam...@live.com> wrote:

> heh!
> Reminds me of a Rimbaud poem
> about a priest...I wish I could remember it.....
> Good stuff Matt.
> I've got nothing against Cythera personally-
> (life's too short).

It's good to know that the art of critique isn't dead.

</sarcasm>

adamlynn

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Jul 17, 2009, 6:09:09 PM7/17/09
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On Jul 17, 1:30 am, Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> wrote:
> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:43:28 -0700 (PDT),
>
> adamlynn <adaml...@live.com> wrote:
> > heh!
> > Reminds me of a Rimbaud poem
> > about a priest...I wish I could remember it.....
> > Good stuff Matt.
> > I've got nothing against Cythera personally-
> > (life's too short).
>
> It's good to know that the art of critique isn't dead.
>
> </sarcasm>
>
> --
> PJR :-)
>
> <http://pjr.lasnobberia.net/verse/>

Sarcasm is the only note that I've ever heard you play.
(/seriously/) But since your opinion(s) mean less then
the farts of a gnat......

adamlynn

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Jul 17, 2009, 6:21:07 PM7/17/09
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On Jul 17, 1:28 am, Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> wrote:
> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sun, 12 Jul 2009 06:25:19 -0700 (PDT),
>
> adamlynn <adaml...@live.com> wrote:
> > A toothless old dog named hubris
>
> Went up to a goose and said "Boo, Briss!"
>         The goose was named Brister
>         And so was her sister,
> Who said, "What I tell you is true, Briss!"
>
> A toothless old wanker named Lynn
> Wrote limericks, hoping he'd win.
>         They none of them scanned,
>         So all he had planned
> Was quickly consigned to the bin.
>
> A pedophile best known as Adam
> said, "Children? My God, have I had 'em!
>         I've given them pain
>         again and again!"
> said that naughty old pedo named Adam.
>
> --
> PJR :-)
>
> <http://pjr.lasnobberia.net/verse/>

You really are an asshole- all that ever comes
out of you are farts and feces. I'd like to find
out if you're man enough to call me a "pedo"
to my face. I doubt that you'd be willing to
face the consequences, punk.

George Dance

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Jul 17, 2009, 6:28:52 PM7/17/09
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On Jul 17, 1:28 am, Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> wrote:
> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sun, 12 Jul 2009 06:25:19 -0700 (PDT),
>
> adamlynn <adaml...@live.com> wrote:
> > A toothless old dog named hubris
>
>
> A pedophile best known as Adam


Is that the only thing you like to talk about? Dear me: we're going to
have to start calling you Pedo Ross.

adamlynn

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Jul 17, 2009, 7:00:58 PM7/17/09
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On Jul 17, 1:28 am, Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> wrote:
> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sun, 12 Jul 2009 06:25:19 -0700 (PDT),
>
> adamlynn <adaml...@live.com> wrote:
> > A toothless old dog named hubris
>
> Went up to a goose and said "Boo, Briss!"
>         The goose was named Brister
>         And so was her sister,
> Who said, "What I tell you is true, Briss!"
>
> A toothless old wanker named Lynn
> Wrote limericks, hoping he'd win.
>         They none of them scanned,
>         So all he had planned
> Was quickly consigned to the bin.
>
> A pedophile best known as Adam
> said, "Children? My God, have I had 'em!
>         I've given them pain
>         again and again!"
> said that naughty old pedo named Adam.
>
> --
> PJR :-)
>
> <http://pjr.lasnobberia.net/verse/>

there once was a peter named Ross
a prick whose gain was her loss
he tried some Viagra
then roared like Niagara
he'd never rise up from his cross

adamlynn

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Jul 17, 2009, 8:16:23 PM7/17/09
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Because it's in the nature of a small mind
to gleefully jump on a small mistake
(Peter) I meant that
"your opinion(s) mean less THAN
the farts of a gnat."

Peter J Ross

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Jul 18, 2009, 3:17:40 PM7/18/09
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:21:07 -0700 (PDT),
adamlynn <adam...@live.com> wrote:

You don't get the "flyting" idea at all, do you?

When do you plan to come and kill me? The first week in September
looks good to me.

Peter J Ross

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Jul 18, 2009, 3:25:07 PM7/18/09
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:28:52 -0700 (PDT),
George Dance <george...@yahoo.ca> wrote:

Who are "we", Dunce?

Peter J Ross

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Jul 18, 2009, 3:24:30 PM7/18/09
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:00:58 -0700 (PDT),
adamlynn <adam...@live.com> wrote:

(your second line doesn't scan very well)

> he tried some Viagra
> then roared like Niagara
> he'd never rise up from his cross

There was an old poster named Adam
Who tried to have sex with a Madam.
What he got from the brothel
Was spunk down his throstle,
That silly old poster named Adam.

Peter J Ross

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Jul 18, 2009, 3:28:32 PM7/18/09
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:16:23 -0700 (PDT),
adamlynn <adam...@live.com> wrote:

Naturally, I'll immediately kill myself as the result of being
disliked by some newbie.

Farewell, cruel AAPC! adamlynn is evidently a much better contributor
to this newsgroup than I! Sob! Sob! ... BANG!

adamlynn

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Jul 18, 2009, 4:57:42 PM7/18/09
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On Jul 18, 3:28 pm, Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> wrote:
> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:16:23 -0700 (PDT),
>
>
>
>
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> <http://pjr.lasnobberia.net/verse/>- Hide quoted text -

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It's the mean-spirited persona that you've chosen to adopt,
the sneeringly superior tone that you take, and the insulting
nature of your critiques that I dislike.

It's too bad, because you obviously have talent, and you could
be helpful, but instead, it seems, you'd rather impress the other
bullies who pollute this forum.

I've been wasting my time & energy responding in kind,
and for that I'm sorry.

Adam

Will Dockery

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Jul 18, 2009, 5:01:42 PM7/18/09
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> It's the mean-spirited persona that you've chosen to adopt,
> the sneeringly superior tone that you take, and the insulting
> nature of your critiques that I dislike.
>
> It's too bad, because you obviously have talent, and you could
> be helpful, but instead, it seems, you'd rather impress the other
> bullies who pollute this forum.
>
> I've been wasting my time & energy responding in kind,
> and for that I'm sorry.
>
> Adam

It seems that PJR has decided to trail you, Adam... if so, you ain't
seen nothing yet.

Peter J Ross

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Jul 18, 2009, 5:11:27 PM7/18/09
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:57:42 -0700 (PDT),
adamlynn <adam...@live.com> wrote:

> QUACK!

What, another one???

Will Dockery

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Jul 18, 2009, 5:17:31 PM7/18/09
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On Jul 18, 3:28 pm, Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> wrote:
> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:16:23 -0700 (PDT),
>

Heh... thinking of following your dear friends Hammes and Bishop, PJR?

Will Dockery

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Jul 19, 2009, 3:10:20 AM7/19/09
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Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid> wrote:
>
> When do you plan to come and kill me?

"...You're not worth any ammo, see?" -Dennis M. Hammes

General Zod

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Apr 15, 2019, 7:30:56 PM4/15/19
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Yes darned goo translations of Rimbaud....

NancyGene

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Apr 15, 2019, 7:35:55 PM4/15/19
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On Monday, April 15, 2019 at 11:30:56 PM UTC, General Zod wrote:

> Yes darned goo translations of Rimbaud....

Carlile wrote goo.

General Zod

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Apr 15, 2019, 7:36:56 PM4/15/19
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> Carlile wrote

GOOD

Michael Pendragon

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Apr 15, 2019, 9:14:06 PM4/15/19
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Not just any old run-of-the-mill goo, but "darned goo."

NancyGene

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Apr 15, 2019, 9:18:22 PM4/15/19
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Will and Zid are also fully fluent in French so they know if he did a good job on the translation or not. Pouvez-vous le traduire?

Will Dockery

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Apr 15, 2019, 9:34:19 PM4/15/19
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I have read enough translations of Rimbaud to be able to tell a good one from a not so good one...

Chafetz Chayim ha'Yehu'di

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Apr 15, 2019, 9:53:45 PM4/15/19
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On Monday, April 15, 2019 at 6:18:22 PM UTC-7, NaziQueene has not read Rimbaud or Verlaine..


NaziQueene's pudding is easily translatable: גיין באַרען זיך

STEPHAN PICKERING / חפץ ח"ם בן אברהם
Torah אלילה Yehu'di Apikores / Philologia Kabbalistica Speculativa Researcher
לחיות זמן רב ולשגשג...לעולם לא עוד
THE KABBALAH FRACTALS PROJECT
לעולם לא אשכח

IN PROGRESS: Shabtai Zisel ben Avraham v'Rachel Riva:
davening in the musematic dark

General Zod

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Apr 15, 2019, 11:46:10 PM4/15/19
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On Monday, April 15, 2019 at 9:18:22 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 1:14:06 AM UTC, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Monday, April 15, 2019 at 7:35:55 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > > On Monday, April 15, 2019 at 11:30:56 PM UTC, General Zod wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yes darned goo translations of Rimbaud....
> > >
> > > Carlile wrote goo.
> >
> > Not just any old run-of-the-mill goo, but "darned goo."
>
> Will and Zid are also fully fluent in French

No but I know a well written poem when I see one....

Coco DeSockmonkey

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Apr 16, 2019, 12:28:35 AM4/16/19
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Right. You've gushed far too many "Outdamnstanding!"s for anyone to take you seriously in that regard.

Chafetz Chayim ha'Yehu'di

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On Monday, April 15, 2019 at 9:28:35 PM UTC-7, Coco DeSockmonkeyTrollGoy rambles...

> Right. You've gushed far too many "Outdamnstanding!"s for anyone to take you seriously in that regard.



Shalom & Erev tov, Zod...Coco, like Edward Rochester, is an illusion, a bullshit purveyor. You are a painter. I've seen your stunning conjurations. NaziQueene's cyberlibels are meaningless, and, in time, he and FakeJewTroll will no longer be here.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Will Dockery

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Apr 16, 2019, 2:12:22 AM4/16/19
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On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 1:53:20 AM UTC-4, Chafetz Chayim ha'Yehu'di wrote:
> On Monday, April 15, 2019 at 9:28:35 PM UTC-7, Coco DeSockmonkeyTrollGoy rambles...
>
> > Right. You've gushed far too many "Outdamnstanding!"s for anyone to take you seriously in that regard.
>
> Shalom & Erev tov, Zod...Coco, like Edward Rochester, is an illusion, a bullshit purveyor. You are a painter. I've seen your stunning conjurations. NaziQueene's cyberlibels are meaningless, and, in time, he and FakeJewTroll will no longer be here.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

And btw, lying scumbag trolls such as those you mention are not welcomed at the Facebook version of this poetry group:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/105463832836304/

General Zod

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On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 1:53:20 AM UTC-4, Chafetz Chayim ha'Yehu'di wrote:
Oh yes the trolls are nothing but total crapolla....

An utter waste of my time.....
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