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J
Dec 10, 2011, 11:59:19 PM12/10/11
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If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
think again.
http://www.personhoodusa.com/what-is-personhood
Personhood is the cultural and legal recognition of the equal and
unalienable rights of human beings
When the term “person” is applied to a particular class of human beings,
it is an affirmation of their individual rights. In other words, to be a
person is to be protected by a series of God-given rights and
constitutional guarantees such as life, liberty, and the pursuit of
happiness.
This terrifies the pro-abortion foes!
They know that if we clearly define the preborn baby as a person, they
will have the same right to life as all Americans do!
This then also begs the question, is every human being a person?
There is a very real sense in which the need to answer this second
question is, in itself, an absurdity.
If you look up the word "person" in your average dictionary (we'll use
Webster's), you'll find something like this: "Person n. A human being."
A person, simply put, is a human being. This fact should be enough. The
intrinsic humanity of unborn children, by definition, makes them
persons, and should, therefore, guarantee their protection under the law.
Personhood holds the key to filling the “Blackmun Hole,” a startling
admission in the Roe v. Wade majority opinion:
In 1973, the science of fetology was not able to prove, as it can now,
that a living, fully human, and unique individual exists at the moment
of fertilization and continues to grow through various stages of
development in a continuum until death.
However, pick up any embryology book today and you will find that your
life and every person’s life began at fertilization.
If the Court considers the humanity of the preborn child, it could end
this age-based discrimination and restore the legal protections of
personhood to the preborn.
For nearly forty years, however, this has not been the case. The
situation we are left with is that, in America, there is a group of
living human beings who have no protection under the law and are being
killed en masse every day. It is truly astounding, but not wholly
unprecedented.
Throughout history, certain people groups have felt the brunt of a
system which denied their humanity, stripped their personhood, and
subjected them to horrors beyond measure. While the legal framework that
made such horrors possible has now been removed, it remains firmly in
place for preborn Americans.
There remains one, and only one, group of human beings in the United
States today for which being human is not enough. The inconvenience of
their existence has resulted in this shameful injustice.
What is a person? A person is a human being at every age.
--
J Young
Jvis...@live.com
W.T.S.
Dec 11, 2011, 1:47:05 AM12/11/11
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In article <57u2sh....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@liar.com
person, or a baby, it's just tissue, like a hangnail.
>
> http://www.PeopleLyingToPeople.com/Lies/disinformation/Propaganda/
>
<snip> Usual pro-liar, anti-choice, forced birther bull shit and lies,
why bother to repost. </snip>
>
Summary: Life only begins at birth, never at conception. End of
debate.
>
Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
> think again.
Or what, ass hole "J"? I already know the truth, a fetus isn't a
> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
> think again.
person, or a baby, it's just tissue, like a hangnail.
>
> http://www.PeopleLyingToPeople.com/Lies/disinformation/Propaganda/
>
<snip> Usual pro-liar, anti-choice, forced birther bull shit and lies,
why bother to repost. </snip>
>
Summary: Life only begins at birth, never at conception. End of
debate.
>
Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
SkyEyes
Dec 11, 2011, 2:36:14 AM12/11/11
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On Dec 10, 9:59 pm, J <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
> think again.
>
> http://www.personhoodusa.com/what-is-personhood
>
> Personhood is the cultural and legal recognition of the equal and
> unalienable rights of human beings
I'll start recognizing fetuses as persons when the government starts
> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
> think again.
>
> http://www.personhoodusa.com/what-is-personhood
>
> Personhood is the cultural and legal recognition of the equal and
> unalienable rights of human beings
taxing them. Not before.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
Andrew W
Dec 11, 2011, 2:57:22 AM12/11/11
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"J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
--
Faith can lead to ignorance. Questioning faith can lead to greater
knowledge and enlightenment.
The Bible encourages self-righteousness, fanaticism, conflict and
general ignorance.
news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
> person, think again.
>
Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
> person, think again.
>
--
Faith can lead to ignorance. Questioning faith can lead to greater
knowledge and enlightenment.
The Bible encourages self-righteousness, fanaticism, conflict and
general ignorance.
Ray Fischer
Dec 11, 2011, 3:24:01 AM12/11/11
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J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>
>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
>think again.
So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>
>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
>think again.
--
Ray Fischer | None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
rfis...@sonic.net | Goethe
W.T.S.
Dec 11, 2011, 3:57:32 AM12/11/11
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In article <jc1np8$c2j$1...@dont-email.me>, remove_...@optusnet.com.au
says...
> "J" <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote in message
> news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
> > If you're one of those people who think a fetus is not a
> > person, think again.
Or What, butt hole "J"?
sick, degenerate piece of filth that crept out of the sewers and gutters
of the world.
says...
> "J" <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote in message
> news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
> > If you're one of those people who think a fetus is not a
> > person, think again.
Or What, butt hole "J"?
>
> Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
Excellent point. But "J" is not anywhere near a normal person. "J" is
> Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
sick, degenerate piece of filth that crept out of the sewers and gutters
of the world.
W.T.S.
Dec 11, 2011, 4:04:03 AM12/11/11
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In article <4ee468a1$0$1658$742e...@news.sonic.net>, rfis...@sonic.net
says...
> J <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote:
> >
> >If you're one of those people who think a fetus is not a person,
> >think again.
Or what, but hole "J"?
he's good at. But, with "J", you never know.
says...
> J <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote:
> >
> >If you're one of those people who think a fetus is not a person,
> >think again.
Or what, but hole "J"?
>
> So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>
"J" murders pre-fertilized babies constantly. It may be the only thing
> So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>
he's good at. But, with "J", you never know.
duke
Dec 11, 2011, 9:12:48 AM12/11/11
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On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:36:14 -0800 (PST), SkyEyes <skye...@cox.net> wrote:
>On Dec 10, 9:59 pm, J <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
>> think again.
>>
>> http://www.personhoodusa.com/what-is-personhood
>>
>> Personhood is the cultural and legal recognition of the equal and
>> unalienable rights of human beings
>I'll start recognizing fetuses as persons when the government starts
>taxing them. Not before.
You should have obtained a SS Card for your baby you "aborted", and your's might
>On Dec 10, 9:59 pm, J <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
>> think again.
>>
>> http://www.personhoodusa.com/what-is-personhood
>>
>> Personhood is the cultural and legal recognition of the equal and
>> unalienable rights of human beings
>I'll start recognizing fetuses as persons when the government starts
>taxing them. Not before.
have been taxed.
The dukester, American-American
*****
Romans 1:16-17
It is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes:
for Jew first, then Greek. For in it is revealed the righteousness
of God from faith to faith; as it is written, "The one who is
righteous by faith will live."
*****
duke
Dec 11, 2011, 9:13:33 AM12/11/11
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On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
>"J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
>news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>> person, think again.
>>
>
>Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
wrote:
>"J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
>news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>> person, think again.
>>
>
>Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
duke
Dec 11, 2011, 9:14:17 AM12/11/11
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On 11 Dec 2011 08:24:01 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>
>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
>>think again.
>
>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>
>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
>>think again.
>
>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
Loirbaj
Dec 11, 2011, 9:11:32 AM12/11/11
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Jon Young said,
Even the deviant 'Justice' who ruled on abortion
had to admit that Personhood shall END all
future abortions.
When the term “person” is applied to a particular
class of human beings, it is an affirmation of their
individual rights. In other words, to be a
person is to be protected by a series of God-given
rights and constitutional guarantees such as life,
liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
This terrifies the pro-abortion foes!
BroilJAB said,
class of human beings, it is an affirmation of their
individual rights. In other words, to be a
person is to be protected by a series of God-given
rights and constitutional guarantees such as life,
liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
This terrifies the pro-abortion foes!
Even the deviant 'Justice' who ruled on abortion
had to admit that Personhood shall END all
future abortions.
tirebiter
Dec 11, 2011, 9:27:30 AM12/11/11
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On Dec 10, 11:59 pm, J <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
> think again.
>
> http://www.personhoodusa.com/what-is-personhood
>
> Personhood is the cultural and legal recognition of the equal and
> unalienable rights of human beings
>
> When the term “person” is applied to a particular class of human beings,
> it is an affirmation of their individual rights. In other words, to be a
> person is to be protected by a series of God-given rights and
> constitutional guarantees such as life, liberty, and the pursuit of
> happiness.
>
Where does The Constitution guarantee "life, liberty, and the pursuit
> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
> think again.
>
> http://www.personhoodusa.com/what-is-personhood
>
> Personhood is the cultural and legal recognition of the equal and
> unalienable rights of human beings
>
> When the term “person” is applied to a particular class of human beings,
> it is an affirmation of their individual rights. In other words, to be a
> person is to be protected by a series of God-given rights and
> constitutional guarantees such as life, liberty, and the pursuit of
> happiness.
>
of happiness"?
And there is no such thing as god-given rights.
Idiot.
---
a.a. #2273
MarkA
Dec 11, 2011, 10:49:36 AM12/11/11
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On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 20:59:19 -0800, J wrote:
>
>
> If the Court considers the humanity of the preborn child, it could end
> this age-based discrimination and restore the legal protections of
> personhood to the preborn.
>
>
> For nearly forty years, however, this has not been the case. The
> situation we are left with is that, in America, there is a group of
> living human beings who have no protection under the law and are being
> killed en masse every day. It is truly astounding, but not wholly
> unprecedented.
>
Roe v Wade was all about protecting the pregnant woman's right to privacy.
>
>
> If the Court considers the humanity of the preborn child, it could end
> this age-based discrimination and restore the legal protections of
> personhood to the preborn.
>
>
> For nearly forty years, however, this has not been the case. The
> situation we are left with is that, in America, there is a group of
> living human beings who have no protection under the law and are being
> killed en masse every day. It is truly astounding, but not wholly
> unprecedented.
>
It doesn't make one whit of difference if the fetus is a "person" or not.
It has no more right to impose its will on a pregnant woman than any other
outsider does.
Whether you choose to call the fetus a "person" or a "microscopic clump of
cells", until it can survive on its own outside the womb, it is dependent
on the charity of the woman who carries it. Charity is, by definition,
voluntary, and if she decides she no longer wishes to extend charity, that
is her call alone.
--
MarkA
If you can read this, you can stop reading now.
Paul David Wright
Dec 11, 2011, 10:54:24 AM12/11/11
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J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net:
Still no thing as 'unborn baby', and still no child is harmed in an
abortion.
PDW
>
>
> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
> person, think again.
>
Nope.
>
> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
> person, think again.
>
Still no thing as 'unborn baby', and still no child is harmed in an
abortion.
PDW
Paul David Wright
Dec 11, 2011, 10:55:49 AM12/11/11
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duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
news:uee9e7trksjbj0bu9...@4ax.com:
PDW
news:uee9e7trksjbj0bu9...@4ax.com:
>
> On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:36:14 -0800 (PST), SkyEyes <skye...@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>>On Dec 10, 9:59 pm, J <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
>>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>> person, think again.
>>>
>>> http://www.personhoodusa.com/what-is-personhood
>>>
>>> Personhood is the cultural and legal recognition of the equal and
>>> unalienable rights of human beings
>
>>I'll start recognizing fetuses as persons when the government starts
>>taxing them. Not before.
>
> You should have obtained a SS Card for your baby you "aborted", and
> your's might have been taxed.
>
And might shut up about things that don't affect you, control freak.
> On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:36:14 -0800 (PST), SkyEyes <skye...@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>>On Dec 10, 9:59 pm, J <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
>>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>> person, think again.
>>>
>>> http://www.personhoodusa.com/what-is-personhood
>>>
>>> Personhood is the cultural and legal recognition of the equal and
>>> unalienable rights of human beings
>
>>I'll start recognizing fetuses as persons when the government starts
>>taxing them. Not before.
>
> You should have obtained a SS Card for your baby you "aborted", and
> your's might have been taxed.
>
PDW
Paul David Wright
Dec 11, 2011, 10:57:35 AM12/11/11
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duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
news:kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com:
PDW
news:kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com:
>
> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W"
> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>>"J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
>>news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>> person, think again.
>>>
>>
>>Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>
> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
>
And it is still none of your concern, Dork.
> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W"
> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>>"J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
>>news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>> person, think again.
>>>
>>
>>Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>
> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
>
PDW
ala
Dec 11, 2011, 10:58:06 AM12/11/11
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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:mke9e7dh8hvtg918d...@4ax.com...
> On 11 Dec 2011 08:24:01 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
>>J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
>>>think again.
>>
>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>
> There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>
>
yea there is they are called sperm
>
>>J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
>>>think again.
>>
>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>
> There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>
>
Paul David Wright
Dec 11, 2011, 10:58:28 AM12/11/11
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Loirbaj <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote in
news:ef20f74c-6000-4299...@v6g2000yqv.googlegroups.com:
>
> Jon Young said,
> When the term =93person=94 is applied to a particular
In your dreams, control freak.
PDW
news:ef20f74c-6000-4299...@v6g2000yqv.googlegroups.com:
>
> Jon Young said,
> When the term =93person=94 is applied to a particular
PDW
Paul David Wright
Dec 11, 2011, 10:59:23 AM12/11/11
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duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
news:mke9e7dh8hvtg918d...@4ax.com:
PDW
news:mke9e7dh8hvtg918d...@4ax.com:
>
> On 11 Dec 2011 08:24:01 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
>>J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>>person, think again.
>>
>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>
> There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>
And there is no such thing as a 'pre-born baby' either, Dork.
> On 11 Dec 2011 08:24:01 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
>>J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>>person, think again.
>>
>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>
> There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>
PDW
ala
Dec 11, 2011, 11:38:58 AM12/11/11
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"SkyEyes" <skye...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:a602790b-8688-468d...@q16g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>I'll start recognizing fetuses as persons when the government starts
>taxing them. Not before.
occurs in a tax year preceding the birth
Spartakus
Dec 11, 2011, 11:40:13 AM12/11/11
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J <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not
> a person, think again.
>
> http://www.personhoodusa.com/what-is-personhood
>
> Personhood is the cultural and legal recognition of the equal
> and unalienable rights of human beings.
> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not
> a person, think again.
>
> http://www.personhoodusa.com/what-is-personhood
>
> Personhood is the cultural and legal recognition of the equal
Indeed it is. The voters of Mississippi recognized that on some level
when they rejected an amendment to their state constitution that would
have extended legal personhood to fetuses, embryos and even
blastocysts. Defining a "human being" or "person" as a human organism
who is born, breathing and alive is simple, easy to understand,
traditional to all religions, societies, and legal systems, and
exclusive of no one we really care about.
W.T.S.
Dec 11, 2011, 1:03:21 PM12/11/11
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In article <ef20f74c-6000-4299-97f6-19f8f1c6b4f6
@v6g2000yqv.googlegroups.com>, Rhod...@wmconnect.com says...
>
> Jerk Young said,
> the fetus isn't a person.
@v6g2000yqv.googlegroups.com>, Rhod...@wmconnect.com says...
>
> Jerk Young said,
> When the term “person” is applied to a particular
> class of human beings, it is an affirmation of their
> individual rights. In other words, to be a
> person is to be protected by a series of God-given
> rights and constitutional guarantees such as life,
> liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
> This terrifies the abortion foes! After all, women are persons, while
> class of human beings, it is an affirmation of their
> individual rights. In other words, to be a
> person is to be protected by a series of God-given
> rights and constitutional guarantees such as life,
> liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
> the fetus isn't a person.
>
> BroilJAB said,
> Even the deviant 'Justice' who ruled on abortion
> had to admit that Personhood shall END all
> future abortions.
Bull shit. Dream up new lies and disinformation.
> BroilJAB said,
> Even the deviant 'Justice' who ruled on abortion
> had to admit that Personhood shall END all
> future abortions.
W.T.S.
Dec 11, 2011, 1:09:10 PM12/11/11
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In article <mke9e7dh8hvtg918d...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
having us do in the privacy of our own homes, or in the Doctors office,
or with the ones we love.
Oh, wait, he already does all that. Never mind.
@cox.net says...
> >J <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
> >>think again.
> >
> >So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>
> There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
Thank goodness! Otherwise there's no telling what the Pope would be
> >>
> >>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
> >>think again.
> >
> >So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>
> There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
having us do in the privacy of our own homes, or in the Doctors office,
or with the ones we love.
Oh, wait, he already does all that. Never mind.
W.T.S.
Dec 11, 2011, 1:06:50 PM12/11/11
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In article <kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
> >"J" <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote in message
Catholic "Saint". Women who abort of the finest of women.
>
> The pukester, AmeriKKKan-Woman Hater.
> Romans is pure sewer filth.
@cox.net says...
> >"J" <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote in message
> >news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
> >> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
> >> person, think again.
> >>
> >Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>
> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
Abortion queens are blessed Saints, far more so than any cheap, tawdry
> >> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
> >> person, think again.
> >>
> >Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>
> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
Catholic "Saint". Women who abort of the finest of women.
>
> The pukester, AmeriKKKan-Woman Hater.
> Romans is pure sewer filth.
W.T.S.
Dec 11, 2011, 1:11:25 PM12/11/11
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In article <Xns9FB86FCC165pau...@178.63.61.175>,
pauldav...@yahoo.com says...
Very excellent point. Goodness knows what new disinformation slogans
"duke" and friends will come out with next!
pauldav...@yahoo.com says...
"duke" and friends will come out with next!
W.T.S.
Dec 11, 2011, 1:14:03 PM12/11/11
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In article <Xns9FB86EF37CBFApa...@178.63.61.175>,
pauldav...@yahoo.com says...
> J <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote in news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net:
"J" probably knows that. But, he's a woman hater, and wanting to
obstruct abortion is the ultimate expression of his hate.
pauldav...@yahoo.com says...
> J <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote in news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net:
obstruct abortion is the ultimate expression of his hate.
Buddythunder
Dec 11, 2011, 1:49:26 PM12/11/11
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On Dec 11, 5:59 pm, J <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
> think again.
>
> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
> think again.
>
> http://www.personhoodusa.com/what-is-personhood
>
> Personhood is the cultural and legal recognition of the equal and
> unalienable rights of human beings
>
>
> Personhood is the cultural and legal recognition of the equal and
> unalienable rights of human beings
>
> When the term “person” is applied to a particular class of human beings,
> it is an affirmation of their individual rights. In other words, to be a
> person is to be protected by a series of God-given rights and
> constitutional guarantees such as life, liberty, and the pursuit of
> happiness.
>
> This terrifies the pro-abortion foes!
> it is an affirmation of their individual rights. In other words, to be a
> person is to be protected by a series of God-given rights and
> constitutional guarantees such as life, liberty, and the pursuit of
> happiness.
>
>
> They know that if we clearly define the preborn baby as a person, they
> will have the same right to life as all Americans do!
>
> This then also begs the question, is every human being a person?
>
> There is a very real sense in which the need to answer this second
> question is, in itself, an absurdity.
>
> If you look up the word "person" in your average dictionary (we'll use
> Webster's), you'll find something like this: "Person n. A human being."
>
> A person, simply put, is a human being. This fact should be enough. The
> intrinsic humanity of unborn children, by definition, makes them
> persons, and should, therefore, guarantee their protection under the law.
>
> Personhood holds the key to filling the “Blackmun Hole,” a startling
> admission in the Roe v. Wade majority opinion:
>
> In 1973, the science of fetology was not able to prove, as it can now,
> that a living, fully human, and unique individual exists at the moment
> of fertilization and continues to grow through various stages of
> development in a continuum until death.
>
> However, pick up any embryology book today and you will find that your
> life and every person’s life began at fertilization.
>
> If the Court considers the humanity of the preborn child, it could end
> this age-based discrimination and restore the legal protections of
> personhood to the preborn.
>
> For nearly forty years, however, this has not been the case. The
> situation we are left with is that, in America, there is a group of
> living human beings who have no protection under the law and are being
> killed en masse every day. It is truly astounding, but not wholly
> unprecedented.
>
> Throughout history, certain people groups have felt the brunt of a
> If the Court considers the humanity of the preborn child, it could end
> this age-based discrimination and restore the legal protections of
> personhood to the preborn.
>
> For nearly forty years, however, this has not been the case. The
> situation we are left with is that, in America, there is a group of
> living human beings who have no protection under the law and are being
> killed en masse every day. It is truly astounding, but not wholly
> unprecedented.
>
> system which denied their humanity, stripped their personhood, and
> subjected them to horrors beyond measure. While the legal framework that
> made such horrors possible has now been removed, it remains firmly in
> place for preborn Americans.
>
> There remains one, and only one, group of human beings in the United
> States today for which being human is not enough. The inconvenience of
> their existence has resulted in this shameful injustice.
>
> What is a person? A person is a human being at every age.
>
> --
> J Young
> Jvisi...@live.com
Pre born baby... jeez, do you nutcases ever listen to yourselves?
Religion - rendering believers utterly oblivious for millennia!
Ray Fischer
Dec 11, 2011, 2:42:09 PM12/11/11
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duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
>wrote:
>
>>"J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
>>news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>> person, think again.
>>>
>>
>>Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>
>It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
And good enough for a murderer.
>On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
>wrote:
>
>>"J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
>>news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>> person, think again.
>>>
>>
>>Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>
>It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
Ray Fischer
Dec 11, 2011, 2:42:43 PM12/11/11
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duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
>>>think again.
>>
>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>
>There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
"There no such thing as pre-[born] babies."
> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
>>>think again.
>>
>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>
>There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
Andrew W
Dec 11, 2011, 3:35:27 PM12/11/11
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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com
> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W"
> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>> "J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
>> news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>> person, think again.
>>>
>>
>> Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>
> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
>
Only a sick Catholic cretin would bring satan into this.
> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>> "J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
>> news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>> person, think again.
>>>
>>
>> Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>
> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
>
--
Faith can lead to ignorance. Questioning faith can lead to greater
knowledge and enlightenment.
The Bible encourages self-righteousness, fanaticism, conflict and
general ignorance.
<o)))))>{
Dec 11, 2011, 4:30:30 PM12/11/11
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news:kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com...
good boy, but it was your God who killed humans since time began.
> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W"
> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>>"J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
>>news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>> person, think again.
>>>
>>
>>Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>
> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
Satan didn't kill billions of people,... your God did. Not that Satan is a
> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>>"J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
>>news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>> person, think again.
>>>
>>
>>Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>
> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
good boy, but it was your God who killed humans since time began.
Eva
Dec 11, 2011, 5:13:11 PM12/11/11
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"Loirbaj" <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote in message
news:ef20f74c-6000-4299...@v6g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...
How do you plan to prevent abortions? You cannot round up all the pregnant
women and confine them for the duration of their pregnancies. There always
were abortionists and always will be. The only difference is more women
will die at the hands of quacks, like before it became legal. Will their
deaths make you happy? Satisfied? Justified? Fulfilled in some way?
And what would the churches do with the unwanted millions of infants if
women were somehow forced to carry to term? Are the churches willing to
support them all with their own Foster Care system?
Gunderlin
Dec 11, 2011, 5:15:31 PM12/11/11
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"W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.294eadc08...@news.west.earthlink.net...
> Thank goodness! Otherwise there's no telling what the Pope would be
> having us do in the privacy of our own homes, or in the Doctors office,
> or with the ones we love.
> Oh, wait, he already does all that. Never mind.
He TRIES to do all that. Those with some intelligence ignore him.
> having us do in the privacy of our own homes, or in the Doctors office,
> or with the ones we love.
> Oh, wait, he already does all that. Never mind.
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Dec 11, 2011, 11:50:23 PM12/11/11
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In article <jc346h$u8d$1...@dont-email.me>, remove_...@optusnet.com.au
says...
says...
> "duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com
> > On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W"
> > <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >
> >> "J" <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote in message
> news:kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com
> > On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W"
> > <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >
> >> news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
> >>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
> >>> person, think again.
> >>>
> >> Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
> >
> > It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
> >
> Only a sick Catholic cretin would bring satan into this.
Very good point!
> >>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
> >>> person, think again.
> >>>
> >> Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
> >
> > It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
> >
> Only a sick Catholic cretin would bring satan into this.
W.T.S.
Dec 11, 2011, 11:57:35 PM12/11/11
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In article <4ee5...@news.x-privat.org>, inv...@invalid.invalid says...
Yes, women are persons too, and shouldn't be denied their sacred
abortion and reproductive rights.
still learning the horrors of those orphanages, which were real money
makers for the Church.
>
> "Loirbaj" <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote in message
> news:ef20f74c-6000-4299...@v6g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...
> Jon Young said,
> When the term “person” is applied to a particular
> class of human beings, it is an affirmation of their
> individual rights. In other words, to be a
> person is to be protected by a series of God-given
> rights and constitutional guarantees such as life,
> liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
> This terrifies the pro-liars!
> "Loirbaj" <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote in message
> news:ef20f74c-6000-4299...@v6g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...
> Jon Young said,
> When the term “person” is applied to a particular
> class of human beings, it is an affirmation of their
> individual rights. In other words, to be a
> person is to be protected by a series of God-given
> rights and constitutional guarantees such as life,
> liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Yes, women are persons too, and shouldn't be denied their sacred
abortion and reproductive rights.
>
> BroilJAB said,
> Even the deviant 'Justice' who ruled on abortion
> >had to admit that Personhood shall END all
> >future abortion obstruction.
> BroilJAB said,
> Even the deviant 'Justice' who ruled on abortion
> >had to admit that Personhood shall END all
>
> How do you plan to prevent abortions? You cannot round up all the pregnant
> women and confine them for the duration of their pregnancies. There always
> were abortionists and always will be. The only difference is more women
> will die at the hands of quacks, like before it became legal. Will their
> deaths make you happy? Satisfied? Justified? Fulfilled in some way?
>
> And what would the churches do with the unwanted millions of infants if
> women were somehow forced to carry to term? Are the churches willing to
> support them all with their own Foster Care system?
Ireland had a nice orphanage system, run by the Catholic Church. We're
> How do you plan to prevent abortions? You cannot round up all the pregnant
> women and confine them for the duration of their pregnancies. There always
> were abortionists and always will be. The only difference is more women
> will die at the hands of quacks, like before it became legal. Will their
> deaths make you happy? Satisfied? Justified? Fulfilled in some way?
>
> And what would the churches do with the unwanted millions of infants if
> women were somehow forced to carry to term? Are the churches willing to
> support them all with their own Foster Care system?
still learning the horrors of those orphanages, which were real money
makers for the Church.
W.T.S.
Dec 11, 2011, 11:59:35 PM12/11/11
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In article <4ee52b83$1...@news.mccarragher.com>,
FatJuic...@TheWatchtower.org says...
futures.
FatJuic...@TheWatchtower.org says...
>
> "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:MPG.294eadc08...@news.west.earthlink.net...
> > Thank goodness! Otherwise there's no telling what the Pope would be
> > having us do in the privacy of our own homes, or in the Doctors office,
> > or with the ones we love.
> > Oh, wait, he already does all that. Never mind.
>
> He TRIES to do all that. Those with some intelligence ignore him.
>
I sure hope so. What the Pope wants results in destroyed lives and
> "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:MPG.294eadc08...@news.west.earthlink.net...
> > Thank goodness! Otherwise there's no telling what the Pope would be
> > having us do in the privacy of our own homes, or in the Doctors office,
> > or with the ones we love.
> > Oh, wait, he already does all that. Never mind.
>
> He TRIES to do all that. Those with some intelligence ignore him.
>
futures.
duke
Dec 12, 2011, 7:21:04 AM12/12/11
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duke
Dec 12, 2011, 7:22:37 AM12/12/11
to
listen to him.
duke
Dec 12, 2011, 7:23:23 AM12/12/11
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On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:06:50 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>In article <kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>@cox.net says...
>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"J" <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote in message
>> >news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>> >> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>> >> person, think again.
>> >>
>> >Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>>
>> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
>Abortion queens are blessed Saints, far more so than any cheap, tawdry
>Catholic "Saint". Women who abort of the finest of women.
Abortion queens are noted full time residents of satanville.
>In article <kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>@cox.net says...
>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"J" <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote in message
>> >news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>> >> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>> >> person, think again.
>> >>
>> >Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>>
>> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
>Abortion queens are blessed Saints, far more so than any cheap, tawdry
>Catholic "Saint". Women who abort of the finest of women.
duke
Dec 12, 2011, 7:24:10 AM12/12/11
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On 11 Dec 2011 19:42:09 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>"J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
>>>news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>>>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>>> person, think again.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>>
>>It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
>
>And good enough for a murderer.
Poor fishboy, still confused about what he's trying to say.
>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>"J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
>>>news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>>>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>>> person, think again.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>>
>>It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
>
>And good enough for a murderer.
duke
Dec 12, 2011, 7:24:45 AM12/12/11
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:35:27 +1100, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com
>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W"
>> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> "J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
>>> news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>>>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>>> person, think again.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>>
>> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
>Only a sick Catholic cretin would bring satan into this.
Abortion queens are regular daters of satan.
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com
>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W"
>> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> "J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
>>> news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>>>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>>> person, think again.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>>
>> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
>Only a sick Catholic cretin would bring satan into this.
duke
Dec 12, 2011, 7:25:39 AM12/12/11
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On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:30:30 -0600, "<o\)\)\)\)\)>{" <inv...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W"
>> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
>>>news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>>>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>>> person, think again.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>>
>> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
>
>Satan didn't kill billions of people,... your God did. Not that Satan is a
>good boy, but it was your God who killed humans since time began.
No, people who follow satan killed all those other people. God himself told us
to love one another.
wrote:
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W"
>> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
>>>news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>>>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>>> person, think again.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>>
>> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
>
>Satan didn't kill billions of people,... your God did. Not that Satan is a
>good boy, but it was your God who killed humans since time began.
to love one another.
duke
Dec 12, 2011, 7:26:50 AM12/12/11
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On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:58:06 -0500, "ala" <alac...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:mke9e7dh8hvtg918d...@4ax.com...
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> On 11 Dec 2011 08:24:01 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>
>>>J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
>>>>think again.
>>>
>>>J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
>>>>think again.
>>>
>>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>>
>> There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>yea there is they are called sperm
>>
>> There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
They don't become babies until AFTER their first date with a woman's egg.
duke
Dec 12, 2011, 7:27:56 AM12/12/11
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On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:09:10 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>In article <mke9e7dh8hvtg918d...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>@cox.net says...
>> On 11 Dec 2011 08:24:01 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>
>> >J <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
>> >>think again.
>> >
>> >So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>>
>> There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>Thank goodness! Otherwise there's no telling what the Pope would be
>having us do in the privacy of our own homes, or in the Doctors office,
>or with the ones we love.
>Oh, wait, he already does all that. Never mind.
Actually, the Pope doesn't do that. All he does is repeat what God says.
>In article <mke9e7dh8hvtg918d...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>@cox.net says...
>> On 11 Dec 2011 08:24:01 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>
>> >J <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
>> >>think again.
>> >
>> >So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>>
>> There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>Thank goodness! Otherwise there's no telling what the Pope would be
>having us do in the privacy of our own homes, or in the Doctors office,
>or with the ones we love.
>Oh, wait, he already does all that. Never mind.
duke
Dec 12, 2011, 7:28:41 AM12/12/11
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On 11 Dec 2011 17:15:31 -0500, "Gunderlin" <FatJuic...@TheWatchtower.org>
wrote:
>
>"W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:MPG.294eadc08...@news.west.earthlink.net...
>> Thank goodness! Otherwise there's no telling what the Pope would be
>> having us do in the privacy of our own homes, or in the Doctors office,
>> or with the ones we love.
>> Oh, wait, he already does all that. Never mind.
>
>He TRIES to do all that. Those with some intelligence ignore him.
Well, that leaves you out.
wrote:
>
>"W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:MPG.294eadc08...@news.west.earthlink.net...
>> Thank goodness! Otherwise there's no telling what the Pope would be
>> having us do in the privacy of our own homes, or in the Doctors office,
>> or with the ones we love.
>> Oh, wait, he already does all that. Never mind.
>
>He TRIES to do all that. Those with some intelligence ignore him.
duke
Dec 12, 2011, 7:29:53 AM12/12/11
to
On 11 Dec 2011 19:42:43 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
>>>>think again.
>>>
>>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>>
>>There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>
>"There no such thing as pre-[born] babies."
EVERY baby is at one time a preborn baby.
>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
>>>>think again.
>>>
>>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>>
>>There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>
>"There no such thing as pre-[born] babies."
Heeheehee.
W.T.S.
Dec 12, 2011, 8:04:46 AM12/12/11
to
In article <pdsbe79ci6v62bp77...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
@cox.net says...
>
> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:57:35 +0000 (UTC), Paul David Wright
> <pauldav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
> >news:kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com:
> >>
> >> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W"
> >> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>
> >>>"J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
> >>>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
> >>>> person, think again.
>
> >>>Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
> >> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
>
> >And it is still none of your concern, Dork.
> >PDW
>
> Oh, but it is. God told me to admonish people such as yourself that refuse to
> listen to him.
How does one listen to an imaginary "God"?
> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:57:35 +0000 (UTC), Paul David Wright
> <pauldav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
> >news:kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com:
> >>
> >> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W"
> >> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>
> >>>"J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
> >>>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
> >>>> person, think again.
>
> >>>Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
> >> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
>
> >And it is still none of your concern, Dork.
> >PDW
>
> Oh, but it is. God told me to admonish people such as yourself that refuse to
> listen to him.
W.T.S.
Dec 12, 2011, 8:05:37 AM12/12/11
to
In article <lgsbe7l6otp3th5j1...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:06:50 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
> >@cox.net says...
> >> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"J" <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
> >> >> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
> >> >> person, think again.
> >> >>
> >> >Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
> >>
> >> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
>
> >Abortion queens are blessed Saints, far more so than any cheap, tawdry
> >Catholic "Saint". Women who abort of the finest of women.
>
> Abortion queens are noted full time residents of satanville.
Try another con game, that won't work anymore.
> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:06:50 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
> >@cox.net says...
> >> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"J" <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
> >> >> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
> >> >> person, think again.
> >> >>
> >> >Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
> >>
> >> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
>
> >Abortion queens are blessed Saints, far more so than any cheap, tawdry
> >Catholic "Saint". Women who abort of the finest of women.
>
> Abortion queens are noted full time residents of satanville.
W.T.S.
Dec 12, 2011, 8:07:17 AM12/12/11
to
In article <hjsbe79o2817f9tpf...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
@cox.net says...
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:35:27 +1100, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
> wrote:
>
> >"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
> >news:kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com
> >> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W"
> >> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>
> >>> "J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
> >>>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
> >>>> person, think again.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
> >>
> >> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
>
> >Only a sick Catholic cretin would bring satan into this.
>
> Abortion queens are regular daters of satan.
How do you date something that doesn't exist?
> wrote:
>
> >"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
> >news:kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com
> >> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W"
> >> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>
> >>> "J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
> >>>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
> >>>> person, think again.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
> >>
> >> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
>
> >Only a sick Catholic cretin would bring satan into this.
>
> Abortion queens are regular daters of satan.
W.T.S.
Dec 12, 2011, 8:08:50 AM12/12/11
to
In article <smsbe71bssdbk0fqv...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
@cox.net says...
> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:58:06 -0500, "ala" <alac...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
> >news:mke9e7dh8hvtg918d...@4ax.com...
> >> On 11 Dec 2011 08:24:01 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >>
> >>>J <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
> >>>>think again.
> >>>
> >>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
> >>
> >> There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>
> >yea there is they are called sperm
>
> They don't become babies until AFTER their first date with a woman's egg.
Who knows what the next Pope will rule.
>
> >"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
> >news:mke9e7dh8hvtg918d...@4ax.com...
> >> On 11 Dec 2011 08:24:01 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >>
> >>>J <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
> >>>>think again.
> >>>
> >>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
> >>
> >> There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>
> >yea there is they are called sperm
>
> They don't become babies until AFTER their first date with a woman's egg.
W.T.S.
Dec 12, 2011, 8:09:41 AM12/12/11
to
In article <dpsbe79rrp48ovjje...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:09:10 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <mke9e7dh8hvtg918d...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
> >@cox.net says...
> >> On 11 Dec 2011 08:24:01 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >>
> >> >J <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
> >> >>think again.
> >> >
> >> >So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
> >>
> >> There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
> >Thank goodness! Otherwise there's no telling what the Pope would be
> >having us do in the privacy of our own homes, or in the Doctors office,
> >or with the ones we love.
> >Oh, wait, he already does all that. Never mind.
>
> Actually, the Pope doesn't do that. All he does is repeat what God says.
"God" is a lie. So the Pope is the head of a big con game.
> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:09:10 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <mke9e7dh8hvtg918d...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
> >@cox.net says...
> >> On 11 Dec 2011 08:24:01 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >>
> >> >J <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
> >> >>think again.
> >> >
> >> >So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
> >>
> >> There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
> >Thank goodness! Otherwise there's no telling what the Pope would be
> >having us do in the privacy of our own homes, or in the Doctors office,
> >or with the ones we love.
> >Oh, wait, he already does all that. Never mind.
>
> Actually, the Pope doesn't do that. All he does is repeat what God says.
W.T.S.
Dec 12, 2011, 8:11:11 AM12/12/11
to
In article <assbe71jnpiqtn17m...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
lying!
>
> HeeHawHeeHawHeeHaw.
@cox.net says...
> On 11 Dec 2011 19:42:43 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
> >duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >>>J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
> >>>>think again.
> >>>
> >>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
> >>
> >>There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
> >
> >"There no such thing as pre-[born] babies."
>
> EVERY baby is at one time a preborn baby.
There is no such thing as a "preborn", life only begins at birth. Stop
>
> >duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >>>J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
> >>>>think again.
> >>>
> >>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
> >>
> >>There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
> >
> >"There no such thing as pre-[born] babies."
>
> EVERY baby is at one time a preborn baby.
lying!
>
> HeeHawHeeHawHeeHaw.
Mitchell Holman
Dec 12, 2011, 8:19:09 AM12/12/11
to
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
news:dpsbe79rrp48ovjje...@4ax.com:
> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:09:10 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>>In article <mke9e7dh8hvtg918d...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>>@cox.net says...
>>> On 11 Dec 2011 08:24:01 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>
>>> >J <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>> >>person, think again.
>>> >
>>> >So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>>>
>>> There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>>Thank goodness! Otherwise there's no telling what the Pope would be
>>having us do in the privacy of our own homes, or in the Doctors
>>office, or with the ones we love.
>>Oh, wait, he already does all that. Never mind.
>
> Actually, the Pope doesn't do that. All he does is repeat what God
> says.
So when Church doctrine changes that means
God changed his mind?
news:dpsbe79rrp48ovjje...@4ax.com:
> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:09:10 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>>In article <mke9e7dh8hvtg918d...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>>@cox.net says...
>>> On 11 Dec 2011 08:24:01 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>
>>> >J <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>> >>person, think again.
>>> >
>>> >So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>>>
>>> There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>>Thank goodness! Otherwise there's no telling what the Pope would be
>>having us do in the privacy of our own homes, or in the Doctors
>>office, or with the ones we love.
>>Oh, wait, he already does all that. Never mind.
>
> Actually, the Pope doesn't do that. All he does is repeat what God
> says.
God changed his mind?
Mitchell Holman
Dec 12, 2011, 8:20:10 AM12/12/11
to
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
news:kksbe7poa71dk0ll7...@4ax.com:
> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:30:30 -0600, "<o\)\)\)\)\)>{"
> <inv...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>>
>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W"
>>> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>>>>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>>>> person, think again.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>>>
>>> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
>>
>>Satan didn't kill billions of people,... your God did. Not that Satan
>>is a good boy, but it was your God who killed humans since time began.
>
> No, people who follow satan killed all those other people. God
> himself told us to love one another.
Except for gays, right?
news:kksbe7poa71dk0ll7...@4ax.com:
> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:30:30 -0600, "<o\)\)\)\)\)>{"
> <inv...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>>
>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W"
>>> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>>>>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>>>> person, think again.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>>>
>>> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
>>
>>Satan didn't kill billions of people,... your God did. Not that Satan
>>is a good boy, but it was your God who killed humans since time began.
>
> No, people who follow satan killed all those other people. God
> himself told us to love one another.
John Baker
Dec 12, 2011, 1:46:00 PM12/12/11
to
On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 20:59:19 -0800, J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
Personhood, IBen, is what rightards want to bestow upon blobs of cells
and corporations, but *not* upon actual persons.
Personhood, IBen, is what rightards want to bestow upon blobs of cells
and corporations, but *not* upon actual persons.
Message has been deleted
duke
Dec 12, 2011, 2:53:39 PM12/12/11
to
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:20:10 -0600, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>news:kksbe7poa71dk0ll7...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:30:30 -0600, "<o\)\)\)\)\)>{"
>> <inv...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>news:kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W"
>>>> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>>>>>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>>>>> person, think again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>>>>
>>>> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
>>>
>>>Satan didn't kill billions of people,... your God did. Not that Satan
>>>is a good boy, but it was your God who killed humans since time began.
>>
>> No, people who follow satan killed all those other people. God
>> himself told us to love one another.
> Except for gays, right?
No, God says "to love", not "to make love".
>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>news:kksbe7poa71dk0ll7...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:30:30 -0600, "<o\)\)\)\)\)>{"
>> <inv...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>news:kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W"
>>>> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>>>>>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>>>>> person, think again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>>>>
>>>> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
>>>
>>>Satan didn't kill billions of people,... your God did. Not that Satan
>>>is a good boy, but it was your God who killed humans since time began.
>>
>> No, people who follow satan killed all those other people. God
>> himself told us to love one another.
> Except for gays, right?
duke
Dec 12, 2011, 2:54:21 PM12/12/11
to
Mitchell Holman
Dec 12, 2011, 5:30:30 PM12/12/11
to
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
news:vsmce7hc3e300nrbm...@4ax.com:
Which one to Pedophile Priests do to alter boys?
news:vsmce7hc3e300nrbm...@4ax.com:
Paul David Wright
Dec 12, 2011, 8:44:46 PM12/12/11
to
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
news:eisbe7tn63d9jt8bc...@4ax.com:
>
> On 11 Dec 2011 19:42:09 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W"
>>><remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>>>>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>>>> person, think again.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>>>
>>>It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
>>
>>And good enough for a murderer.
>
> Poor fishboy, still confused about what he's trying to say.
>
Poor Dork, still confused enough to think anyone takes him seriously,
PDW
news:eisbe7tn63d9jt8bc...@4ax.com:
>
> On 11 Dec 2011 19:42:09 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W"
>>><remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>>>>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>>>> person, think again.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>>>
>>>It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
>>
>>And good enough for a murderer.
>
> Poor fishboy, still confused about what he's trying to say.
>
PDW
Paul David Wright
Dec 12, 2011, 8:45:45 PM12/12/11
to
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
news:hjsbe79o2817f9tpf...@4ax.com:
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:35:27 +1100, "Andrew W"
> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com
>>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W"
>>> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>>>>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>>>> person, think again.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>>>
>>> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
>
>>Only a sick Catholic cretin would bring satan into this.
>
> Abortion queens are regular daters of satan.
>
And you are a regular liar on this NG, Dork, so your opinion means
nothing.
PDW
news:hjsbe79o2817f9tpf...@4ax.com:
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:35:27 +1100, "Andrew W"
> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com
>>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W"
>>> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>>>>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>>>> person, think again.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>>>
>>> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
>
>>Only a sick Catholic cretin would bring satan into this.
>
> Abortion queens are regular daters of satan.
>
nothing.
PDW
Paul David Wright
Dec 12, 2011, 8:47:02 PM12/12/11
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duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
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> Path:
> news.albasani.net!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!postnews.google.com!
news2.
> google.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!
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> himself told us to love one another.
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And just when do you plan to start, hateful bigot?
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> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:30:30 -0600, "<o\)\)\)\)\)>{"
> <inv...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>>
>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W"
>>> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>>>>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>>>> person, think again.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>>>
>>> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
>>
>>Satan didn't kill billions of people,... your God did. Not that Satan
>>is a good boy, but it was your God who killed humans since time began.
>
> No, people who follow satan killed all those other people.
Nope. Read that book you claim to follow. It says 'god' killed millions.
> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:30:30 -0600, "<o\)\)\)\)\)>{"
> <inv...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>>
>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W"
>>> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>>>>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>>>> person, think again.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>>>
>>> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
>>
>>Satan didn't kill billions of people,... your God did. Not that Satan
>>is a good boy, but it was your God who killed humans since time began.
>
> No, people who follow satan killed all those other people.
God
> himself told us to love one another.
>
>
PDW
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How would you know?
You don't love anyone.
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You don't love anyone.
PDW
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> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:58:06 -0500, "ala" <alac...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:mke9e7dh8hvtg918d...@4ax.com...
>>> On 11 Dec 2011 08:24:01 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>
>>>>J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>>>>person, think again.
>>>>
>>>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>>>
>>> There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>
>>yea there is they are called sperm
>
> They don't become babies until AFTER their first date with a woman's
> egg.
>
And they don't become babies until AFTER they get born.
> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:58:06 -0500, "ala" <alac...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:mke9e7dh8hvtg918d...@4ax.com...
>>> On 11 Dec 2011 08:24:01 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>
>>>>J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>>>>person, think again.
>>>>
>>>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>>>
>>> There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>
>>yea there is they are called sperm
>
> They don't become babies until AFTER their first date with a woman's
> egg.
>
PDW
Paul David Wright
Dec 12, 2011, 8:50:46 PM12/12/11
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>
> On 11 Dec 2011 17:15:31 -0500, "Gunderlin"
> <FatJuic...@TheWatchtower.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>"W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>news:MPG.294eadc08...@news.west.earthlink.net...
>>> Thank goodness! Otherwise there's no telling what the Pope would be
>>> having us do in the privacy of our own homes, or in the Doctors
>>> office, or with the ones we love.
>>> Oh, wait, he already does all that. Never mind.
>>
>>He TRIES to do all that. Those with some intelligence ignore him.
>
> Well, that leaves you out.
>
It totally leaves YOU out.
PDW
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>
> On 11 Dec 2011 17:15:31 -0500, "Gunderlin"
> <FatJuic...@TheWatchtower.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>"W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>news:MPG.294eadc08...@news.west.earthlink.net...
>>> Thank goodness! Otherwise there's no telling what the Pope would be
>>> having us do in the privacy of our own homes, or in the Doctors
>>> office, or with the ones we love.
>>> Oh, wait, he already does all that. Never mind.
>>
>>He TRIES to do all that. Those with some intelligence ignore him.
>
> Well, that leaves you out.
>
PDW
Paul David Wright
Dec 12, 2011, 8:52:16 PM12/12/11
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duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
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>
> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:09:10 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>>In article <mke9e7dh8hvtg918d...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>>@cox.net says...
>>> On 11 Dec 2011 08:24:01 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>
>>> >J <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>> >>person, think again.
>>> >
>>> >So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>>>
>>> There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>>Thank goodness! Otherwise there's no telling what the Pope would be
>>having us do in the privacy of our own homes, or in the Doctors
>>office, or with the ones we love.
>>Oh, wait, he already does all that. Never mind.
>
> Actually, the Pope doesn't do that. All he does is repeat what God
> says.
>
Nope.
He makes up shit for you RCC'ers to do.
Just another control freak.
PDW
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>
> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:09:10 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>>In article <mke9e7dh8hvtg918d...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>>@cox.net says...
>>> On 11 Dec 2011 08:24:01 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>
>>> >J <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>> >>person, think again.
>>> >
>>> >So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>>>
>>> There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>>Thank goodness! Otherwise there's no telling what the Pope would be
>>having us do in the privacy of our own homes, or in the Doctors
>>office, or with the ones we love.
>>Oh, wait, he already does all that. Never mind.
>
> Actually, the Pope doesn't do that. All he does is repeat what God
> says.
>
He makes up shit for you RCC'ers to do.
Just another control freak.
PDW
Paul David Wright
Dec 12, 2011, 8:53:22 PM12/12/11
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duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
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> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:19:09 -0600, Mitchell Holman
> <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>>news:dpsbe79rrp48ovjje...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:09:10 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <mke9e7dh8hvtg918d...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>>>>@cox.net says...
>>>>> On 11 Dec 2011 08:24:01 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer)
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >J <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>>>> >>person, think again.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>>>>>
>>>>> There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>>>>Thank goodness! Otherwise there's no telling what the Pope would be
>>>>having us do in the privacy of our own homes, or in the Doctors
>>>>office, or with the ones we love.
>>>>Oh, wait, he already does all that. Never mind.
>>>
>>> Actually, the Pope doesn't do that. All he does is repeat what God
>>> says.
>
>> So when Church doctrine changes that means
>>God changed his mind?
>
> No, God's word is dogma, not doctrine.
>
And yet, 'god' has changed his mind multiple times.
Or perhaps, the Pope changed it for him.
PDW
news:dumce7tmllcp2v12o...@4ax.com:
>
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:19:09 -0600, Mitchell Holman
> <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
>>news:dpsbe79rrp48ovjje...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:09:10 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <mke9e7dh8hvtg918d...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>>>>@cox.net says...
>>>>> On 11 Dec 2011 08:24:01 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer)
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >J <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>>>> >>person, think again.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>>>>>
>>>>> There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>>>>Thank goodness! Otherwise there's no telling what the Pope would be
>>>>having us do in the privacy of our own homes, or in the Doctors
>>>>office, or with the ones we love.
>>>>Oh, wait, he already does all that. Never mind.
>>>
>>> Actually, the Pope doesn't do that. All he does is repeat what God
>>> says.
>
>> So when Church doctrine changes that means
>>God changed his mind?
>
> No, God's word is dogma, not doctrine.
>
Or perhaps, the Pope changed it for him.
PDW
Paul David Wright
Dec 12, 2011, 8:54:15 PM12/12/11
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>
> On 11 Dec 2011 19:42:43 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>>>>person, think again.
>>>>
>>>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>>>
>>>There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>>
>>"There no such thing as pre-[born] babies."
>
> EVERY baby is at one time a preborn baby.
>
Nope.
Still no unborn babies.
No matter how many times you repeat this lie.
PDW
news:assbe71jnpiqtn17m...@4ax.com:
>
> On 11 Dec 2011 19:42:43 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>>>>person, think again.
>>>>
>>>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>>>
>>>There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>>
>>"There no such thing as pre-[born] babies."
>
> EVERY baby is at one time a preborn baby.
>
Still no unborn babies.
No matter how many times you repeat this lie.
PDW
ala
Dec 12, 2011, 9:11:41 PM12/12/11
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news:smsbe71bssdbk0fqv...@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:58:06 -0500, "ala" <alac...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:mke9e7dh8hvtg918d...@4ax.com...
> *****
yea but you asked about pre-fertilized babies.
sperm is pre fertilized babies
not babies
> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:58:06 -0500, "ala" <alac...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:mke9e7dh8hvtg918d...@4ax.com...
>>> On 11 Dec 2011 08:24:01 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>
>>>>J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>>>>person,
>>>>>think again.
>>>>
>>>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>>>
>>> There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>
>>>
>>>>J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>>>>person,
>>>>>think again.
>>>>
>>>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>>>
>>> There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>
>>yea there is they are called sperm
>
> They don't become babies until AFTER their first date with a woman's egg.
>
> The dukester, American-American
>
> They don't become babies until AFTER their first date with a woman's egg.
>
> *****
yea but you asked about pre-fertilized babies.
sperm is pre fertilized babies
not babies
Waldo Tunnel
Dec 12, 2011, 10:59:13 PM12/12/11
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On Dec 11, 1:04 am, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> In article <4ee468a1$0$1658$742ec...@news.sonic.net>, rfisc...@sonic.net
> says...> J <Jerk-L...@liar.com> wrote:
>
> > >If you're one of those people who think a fetus is not a person,
> > >think again.
>
> Or what, but hole "J"?
> he's good at. But, with "J", you never know.
LOL
> In article <4ee468a1$0$1658$742ec...@news.sonic.net>, rfisc...@sonic.net
> says...> J <Jerk-L...@liar.com> wrote:
>
> > >If you're one of those people who think a fetus is not a person,
> > >think again.
>
> Or what, but hole "J"?
>
> > So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>
> "J" murders pre-fertilized babies constantly. It may be the only thing
> > So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>
> he's good at. But, with "J", you never know.
LOL
Ray Fischer
Dec 12, 2011, 11:28:25 PM12/12/11
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>>>>J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
>>>>>think again.
>>>>
--
Ray Fischer | None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
rfis...@sonic.net | Goethe
>>>>>
>>>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
>>>>>think again.
>>>>
>>>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>>>
>>>
>>>There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>>
>>
>>"There no such thing as pre-[born] babies."
>
>EVERY baby is at one time a preborn baby.
"EVERY baby is at one time a [pre-fertilized] baby."
>
>EVERY baby is at one time a preborn baby.
--
Ray Fischer | None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
rfis...@sonic.net | Goethe
duke
Dec 13, 2011, 6:50:54 AM12/13/11
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:05:37 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>In article <lgsbe7l6otp3th5j1...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>@cox.net says...
>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:06:50 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>> >@cox.net says...
>> >> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >"J" <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote in message
>> >> >news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>> >> >> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>> >> >> person, think again.
>> >> >>
>> >> >Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>> >>
>> >> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
>>
>> >Abortion queens are blessed Saints, far more so than any cheap, tawdry
>> >Catholic "Saint". Women who abort of the finest of women.
>>
>> Abortion queens are noted full time residents of satanville.
>Try another con game, that won't work anymore.
You're booked to go, wanker.
>In article <lgsbe7l6otp3th5j1...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>@cox.net says...
>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:06:50 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>> >@cox.net says...
>> >> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >"J" <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote in message
>> >> >news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>> >> >> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>> >> >> person, think again.
>> >> >>
>> >> >Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>> >>
>> >> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
>>
>> >Abortion queens are blessed Saints, far more so than any cheap, tawdry
>> >Catholic "Saint". Women who abort of the finest of women.
>>
>> Abortion queens are noted full time residents of satanville.
>Try another con game, that won't work anymore.
duke
Dec 13, 2011, 7:10:19 AM12/13/11
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duke
Dec 13, 2011, 7:11:29 AM12/13/11
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:08:50 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>In article <smsbe71bssdbk0fqv...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>@cox.net says...
>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:58:06 -0500, "ala" <alac...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> >"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> >news:mke9e7dh8hvtg918d...@4ax.com...
>> >> On 11 Dec 2011 08:24:01 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>J <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
>> >>>>think again.
>> >>>
>> >>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>> >>
>> >> There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>>
>> >yea there is they are called sperm
>>
>> They don't become babies until AFTER their first date with a woman's egg.
>Who knows what the next Pope will rule.
God does. God is the only one in decision making authority.
>In article <smsbe71bssdbk0fqv...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>@cox.net says...
>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:58:06 -0500, "ala" <alac...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> >"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> >news:mke9e7dh8hvtg918d...@4ax.com...
>> >> On 11 Dec 2011 08:24:01 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>J <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
>> >>>>think again.
>> >>>
>> >>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>> >>
>> >> There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>>
>> >yea there is they are called sperm
>>
>> They don't become babies until AFTER their first date with a woman's egg.
>Who knows what the next Pope will rule.
duke
Dec 13, 2011, 7:11:55 AM12/13/11
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:48:21 -0800 (PST), Waldo Tunnel <waldo...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Thank God for that.
wrote:
Thank God for that.
duke
Dec 13, 2011, 7:14:10 AM12/13/11
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On 13 Dec 2011 04:28:25 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>>J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
>>>>>>think again.
>>>>>
>>>>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>>>>
>>>>There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>>>
>>>"There no such thing as pre-[born] babies."
>>
>>EVERY baby is at one time a preborn baby.
>
>"EVERY baby is at one time a [pre-fertilized] baby."
Nope, it's not a baby until the first cell splits.
>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>>J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
>>>>>>think again.
>>>>>
>>>>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>>>>
>>>>There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>>>
>>>"There no such thing as pre-[born] babies."
>>
>>EVERY baby is at one time a preborn baby.
>
>"EVERY baby is at one time a [pre-fertilized] baby."
W.T.S.
Dec 13, 2011, 7:28:43 AM12/13/11
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In article <00fee7lohr8d4t6ce...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>
> The dukester, American-Woman Hater.
>
Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
@cox.net says...
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:05:37 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <lgsbe7l6otp3th5j1...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
> >@cox.net says...
> >> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:06:50 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
> >> >@cox.net says...
> >> >> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >"J" <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
> >> >> >> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
> >> >> >> person, think again.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
> >> >>
> >> >> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
> >>
> >> >Abortion queens are blessed Saints, far more so than any cheap, tawdry
> >> >Catholic "Saint". Women who abort of the finest of women.
> >>
> >> Abortion queens are noted full time residents of satanville.
> >Try another con game, that won't work anymore.
>
> You're booked to go, wanker.
To the exact same place you're going.
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:05:37 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <lgsbe7l6otp3th5j1...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
> >@cox.net says...
> >> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:06:50 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
> >> >@cox.net says...
> >> >> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >"J" <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
> >> >> >> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
> >> >> >> person, think again.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
> >> >>
> >> >> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
> >>
> >> >Abortion queens are blessed Saints, far more so than any cheap, tawdry
> >> >Catholic "Saint". Women who abort of the finest of women.
> >>
> >> Abortion queens are noted full time residents of satanville.
> >Try another con game, that won't work anymore.
>
> You're booked to go, wanker.
>
> The dukester, American-Woman Hater.
>
Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
W.T.S.
Dec 13, 2011, 7:29:54 AM12/13/11
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In article <u5gee79fgrqqepjjv...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
>
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:08:50 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <smsbe71bssdbk0fqv...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
> >@cox.net says...
> >> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:58:06 -0500, "ala" <alac...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
> >> >news:mke9e7dh8hvtg918d...@4ax.com...
> >> >> On 11 Dec 2011 08:24:01 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>J <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
> >> >>>>think again.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
> >> >>
> >> >> There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
> >>
> >> >yea there is they are called sperm
> >>
> >> They don't become babies until AFTER their first date with a woman's egg.
> >Who knows what the next Pope will rule.
>
> God does. God is the only one in decision making authority.
"God" is a myth, so that leaves it up to the Pope.
>
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:08:50 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <smsbe71bssdbk0fqv...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
> >@cox.net says...
> >> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:58:06 -0500, "ala" <alac...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
> >> >news:mke9e7dh8hvtg918d...@4ax.com...
> >> >> On 11 Dec 2011 08:24:01 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>J <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
> >> >>>>think again.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
> >> >>
> >> >> There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
> >>
> >> >yea there is they are called sperm
> >>
> >> They don't become babies until AFTER their first date with a woman's egg.
> >Who knows what the next Pope will rule.
>
> God does. God is the only one in decision making authority.
W.T.S.
Dec 13, 2011, 7:31:24 AM12/13/11
to
In article <abgee71macb3djfel...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
@cox.net says...
>
> On 13 Dec 2011 04:28:25 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
> >duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >>>>>J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
> >>>>>>think again.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
> >>>>
> >>>>There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
> >>>
> >>>"There no such thing as pre-[born] babies."
> >>
> >>EVERY baby is at one time a preborn baby.
> >
> >"EVERY baby is at one time a [pre-fertilized] baby."
>
> Nope, it's not a baby until the first cell splits.
So you're willing to destroy lives and futures over two cells.
> On 13 Dec 2011 04:28:25 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
> >duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >>>>>J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
> >>>>>>think again.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
> >>>>
> >>>>There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
> >>>
> >>>"There no such thing as pre-[born] babies."
> >>
> >>EVERY baby is at one time a preborn baby.
> >
> >"EVERY baby is at one time a [pre-fertilized] baby."
>
> Nope, it's not a baby until the first cell splits.
Paul David Wright
Dec 13, 2011, 7:31:34 PM12/13/11
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duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
news:00fee7lohr8d4t6ce...@4ax.com:
>
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:05:37 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>>In article <lgsbe7l6otp3th5j1...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>>@cox.net says...
>>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:06:50 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >In article <kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com>,
>>> >duckgumbo32 @cox.net says...
>>> >> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W"
>>> >> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >"J" <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote in message
>>> >> >news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>>> >> >> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not
>>> >> >> a person, think again.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>>> >>
>>> >> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion
>>> >> queen.
>>>
>>> >Abortion queens are blessed Saints, far more so than any cheap,
>>> >tawdry Catholic "Saint". Women who abort of the finest of women.
>>>
>>> Abortion queens are noted full time residents of satanville.
>>Try another con game, that won't work anymore.
>
> You're booked to go, wanker.
>
<Yawn>
Your threats continue not to work, wanker.
PDW
news:00fee7lohr8d4t6ce...@4ax.com:
>
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:05:37 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>>In article <lgsbe7l6otp3th5j1...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>>@cox.net says...
>>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:06:50 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >In article <kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com>,
>>> >duckgumbo32 @cox.net says...
>>> >> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W"
>>> >> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >"J" <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote in message
>>> >> >news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>>> >> >> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not
>>> >> >> a person, think again.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>>> >>
>>> >> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion
>>> >> queen.
>>>
>>> >Abortion queens are blessed Saints, far more so than any cheap,
>>> >tawdry Catholic "Saint". Women who abort of the finest of women.
>>>
>>> Abortion queens are noted full time residents of satanville.
>>Try another con game, that won't work anymore.
>
> You're booked to go, wanker.
>
Your threats continue not to work, wanker.
PDW
Paul David Wright
Dec 13, 2011, 7:32:59 PM12/13/11
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duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
news:n3gee718cbq4fnnam...@4ax.com:
No, that continues to be YOU, Earl.
PDW
news:n3gee718cbq4fnnam...@4ax.com:
PDW
Paul David Wright
Dec 13, 2011, 7:34:57 PM12/13/11
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duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
news:u5gee79fgrqqepjjv...@4ax.com:
>
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:08:50 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>>In article <smsbe71bssdbk0fqv...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>>@cox.net says...
>>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:58:06 -0500, "ala" <alac...@comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>> >news:mke9e7dh8hvtg918d...@4ax.com...
>>> >> On 11 Dec 2011 08:24:01 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer)
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>J <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>> >>>>person, think again.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>>> >>
>>> >> There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>>>
>>> >yea there is they are called sperm
>>>
>>> They don't become babies until AFTER their first date with a woman's
>>> egg.
>>Who knows what the next Pope will rule.
>
> God does. God is the only one in decision making authority.
>
So you claim. But you seem most jelous of the actual evidence of that
statement. As if it doesn't exist.
PDW
news:u5gee79fgrqqepjjv...@4ax.com:
>
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:08:50 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>>In article <smsbe71bssdbk0fqv...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>>@cox.net says...
>>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:58:06 -0500, "ala" <alac...@comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>> >news:mke9e7dh8hvtg918d...@4ax.com...
>>> >> On 11 Dec 2011 08:24:01 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer)
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>J <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>> >>>>person, think again.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>>> >>
>>> >> There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>>>
>>> >yea there is they are called sperm
>>>
>>> They don't become babies until AFTER their first date with a woman's
>>> egg.
>>Who knows what the next Pope will rule.
>
> God does. God is the only one in decision making authority.
>
statement. As if it doesn't exist.
PDW
Paul David Wright
Dec 13, 2011, 7:35:50 PM12/13/11
to
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
news:18gee7d3oldd09pe6...@4ax.com:
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:48:21 -0800 (PST), Waldo Tunnel
> <waldo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Dec 12, 4:26 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>Don't tell me: You're catholic, right?
>
> Thank God for that.
>
It's your own fault your an ignorant, arrogant little jackass, Earl.
PDW
news:18gee7d3oldd09pe6...@4ax.com:
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:48:21 -0800 (PST), Waldo Tunnel
> <waldo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Dec 12, 4:26 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>Don't tell me: You're catholic, right?
>
> Thank God for that.
>
PDW
Paul David Wright
Dec 13, 2011, 7:42:03 PM12/13/11
to
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
news:abgee71macb3djfel...@4ax.com:
>
> On 13 Dec 2011 04:28:25 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>>>J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>>>>>>person, think again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>>>>>
>>>>>There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>>>>
>>>>"There no such thing as pre-[born] babies."
>>>
>>>EVERY baby is at one time a preborn baby.
>>
>>"EVERY baby is at one time a [pre-fertilized] baby."
>
> Nope, it's not a baby until the first cell splits.
>
Nope to your nope.
It's not a baby until it's BORN, woman hating forced birther control
freak.
PDW
news:abgee71macb3djfel...@4ax.com:
>
> On 13 Dec 2011 04:28:25 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>>>J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>>>>>>>person, think again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>>>>>
>>>>>There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>>>>
>>>>"There no such thing as pre-[born] babies."
>>>
>>>EVERY baby is at one time a preborn baby.
>>
>>"EVERY baby is at one time a [pre-fertilized] baby."
>
> Nope, it's not a baby until the first cell splits.
>
It's not a baby until it's BORN, woman hating forced birther control
freak.
PDW
Patrick
Dec 13, 2011, 8:41:57 PM12/13/11
to
"Paul David Wright" wrote
> Your threats continue not to work, wanker.
One line wonder.
duke
Dec 14, 2011, 8:13:19 AM12/14/11
to
On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:28:43 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>In article <00fee7lohr8d4t6ce...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>@cox.net says...
>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:05:37 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <lgsbe7l6otp3th5j1...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>> >@cox.net says...
>> >> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:06:50 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >In article <kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>> >> >@cox.net says...
>> >> >> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >"J" <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>> >> >> >> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>> >> >> >> person, think again.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
>> >>
>> >> >Abortion queens are blessed Saints, far more so than any cheap, tawdry
>> >> >Catholic "Saint". Women who abort of the finest of women.
>> >>
>> >> Abortion queens are noted full time residents of satanville.
>> >Try another con game, that won't work anymore.
>>
>> You're booked to go, wanker.
>To the exact same place you're going.
Oh, nooooooo. Here's hoping we have totally different eternal futures, wanker.
>In article <00fee7lohr8d4t6ce...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>@cox.net says...
>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:05:37 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <lgsbe7l6otp3th5j1...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>> >@cox.net says...
>> >> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:06:50 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >In article <kje9e71n287ftr4f6...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>> >> >@cox.net says...
>> >> >> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:57:22 +1100, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >"J" <Jerk...@liar.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >news:57u2sh....@news.alt.net
>> >> >> >> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a
>> >> >> >> person, think again.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >Normal people don't obsess over other people's unborn fetuses.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It's good enough for satan, it's good enough for an abortion queen.
>> >>
>> >> >Abortion queens are blessed Saints, far more so than any cheap, tawdry
>> >> >Catholic "Saint". Women who abort of the finest of women.
>> >>
>> >> Abortion queens are noted full time residents of satanville.
>> >Try another con game, that won't work anymore.
>>
>> You're booked to go, wanker.
>To the exact same place you're going.
Waldo Tunnel
Dec 14, 2011, 2:49:16 PM12/14/11
to
On Dec 13, 4:11 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:48:21 -0800 (PST), Waldo Tunnel <waldotun...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> The dukiester, Candyass-American
> *****
>And it came to pass, when he began to reign, as soon as he sat
>on his throne, that he slew all the house of Baasha: he left
>him not one that pisseth against a wall, neither of his
>kinsfolks, nor of his friends. -I Kings 16:11
> *****
Come on. Don't run away again.
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:48:21 -0800 (PST), Waldo Tunnel <waldotun...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Dec 12, 4:26 am,duke<duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >Don't tell me: You're catholic, right?
>
> Thank God for that.
Goodie. I have some questions for you. Think you're up for it?
> >On Dec 12, 4:26 am,duke<duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >Don't tell me: You're catholic, right?
>
> Thank God for that.
>
> The dukiester, Candyass-American
> *****
>And it came to pass, when he began to reign, as soon as he sat
>on his throne, that he slew all the house of Baasha: he left
>him not one that pisseth against a wall, neither of his
>kinsfolks, nor of his friends. -I Kings 16:11
> *****
Come on. Don't run away again.
Message has been deleted
Waldo Tunnel
Dec 14, 2011, 5:15:52 PM12/14/11
to
On Dec 11, 10:03 am, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> In article <ef20f74c-6000-4299-97f6-19f8f1c6b4f6
> @v6g2000yqv.googlegroups.com>, Rhodi...@wmconnect.com says...
>
> > Jerk Young said,
> > When the term “person” is applied to a particular
> > class of human beings, it is an affirmation of their
> > individual rights. In other words, to be a
> > person is to be protected by a series of God-given
> > rights and constitutional guarantees such as life,
> > liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
> > This terrifies the abortion foes! After all, women are persons, while
> > the fetus isn't a person.
>
> > BroilJAB said,
> > Even the deviant 'Justice' who ruled on abortion
> > had to admit that Personhood shall END all
> > future abortions.
>
> Bull shit. Dream up new lies and disinformation.
Any dedicated sophist can produce ten lies in the time it takes an
honest person to refute one. But after a time it fails to persuade.
> In article <ef20f74c-6000-4299-97f6-19f8f1c6b4f6
> @v6g2000yqv.googlegroups.com>, Rhodi...@wmconnect.com says...
>
> > Jerk Young said,
> > When the term “person” is applied to a particular
> > class of human beings, it is an affirmation of their
> > individual rights. In other words, to be a
> > person is to be protected by a series of God-given
> > rights and constitutional guarantees such as life,
> > liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
> > This terrifies the abortion foes! After all, women are persons, while
> > the fetus isn't a person.
>
> > BroilJAB said,
> > Even the deviant 'Justice' who ruled on abortion
> > had to admit that Personhood shall END all
> > future abortions.
>
> Bull shit. Dream up new lies and disinformation.
Any dedicated sophist can produce ten lies in the time it takes an
honest person to refute one. But after a time it fails to persuade.
chibiabos
Dec 14, 2011, 8:48:10 PM12/14/11
to
In article <57u2sh....@news.alt.net>, <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
> think again.
The SCOTUS has defined personhood as pretty much any entity that can
> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
> think again.
rub two dimes together.
(Guess what a fetus can't do.)
-xhib
--
Member of S.M.A.S.H.
Sarcastic Middle-aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
Rockinghorse Winner
Dec 14, 2011, 10:02:27 PM12/14/11
to
chibiabos <ch...@nospam.com> writes:
>In article <57u2sh....@news.alt.net>, <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
>> think again.
>The SCOTUS has defined personhood as pretty much any entity that can
>rub two dimes together.
>(Guess what a fetus can't do.)
No, nor a paraplegic.
>In article <57u2sh....@news.alt.net>, <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
>> think again.
>The SCOTUS has defined personhood as pretty much any entity that can
>rub two dimes together.
>(Guess what a fetus can't do.)
Terry
Ray Fischer
Dec 15, 2011, 2:48:12 AM12/15/11
to
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>>>J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
>>>>>>>think again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>>>>>
>>>>>There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>>>>
>>>>"There no such thing as pre-[born] babies."
>>>
>>>EVERY baby is at one time a preborn baby.
>>
>>"EVERY baby is at one time a [pre-fertilized] baby."
>
>Nope, it's not a baby until the first cell splits.
"Nope, it's not a baby until [it's born]."
> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>>>J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
>>>>>>>think again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>>>>>
>>>>>There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>>>>
>>>>"There no such thing as pre-[born] babies."
>>>
>>>EVERY baby is at one time a preborn baby.
>>
>>"EVERY baby is at one time a [pre-fertilized] baby."
>
>Nope, it's not a baby until the first cell splits.
duke
Dec 15, 2011, 7:20:01 AM12/15/11
to
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:49:16 -0800 (PST), Waldo Tunnel <waldo...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>On Dec 13, 4:11 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:48:21 -0800 (PST), Waldo Tunnel <waldotun...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Dec 12, 4:26 am,duke<duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Don't tell me: You're catholic, right?
>>
>> Thank God for that.
>
>Goodie. I have some questions for you. Think you're up for it?
What are your questions?
>Come on. Don't run away again.
Oh, not to worry. I wouldn't run away from legitimate questions. It's not my
style. Now the pressure is on you is to make them legitimate questions.
wrote:
>On Dec 13, 4:11 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:48:21 -0800 (PST), Waldo Tunnel <waldotun...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Dec 12, 4:26 am,duke<duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Don't tell me: You're catholic, right?
>>
>> Thank God for that.
>
>Goodie. I have some questions for you. Think you're up for it?
>Come on. Don't run away again.
style. Now the pressure is on you is to make them legitimate questions.
duke
Dec 15, 2011, 7:20:50 AM12/15/11
to
On 15 Dec 2011 07:48:12 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>>>>J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
>>>>>>>>think again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>>>>>
>>>>>"There no such thing as pre-[born] babies."
>>>>
>>>>EVERY baby is at one time a preborn baby.
>>>
>>>"EVERY baby is at one time a [pre-fertilized] baby."
>>
>>Nope, it's not a baby until the first cell splits.
>
>"Nope, it's not a baby until [it's born]."
What's the difference between a baby 24 hours before birth and the same baby 24
>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>>>>J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
>>>>>>>>think again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>>>>>
>>>>>"There no such thing as pre-[born] babies."
>>>>
>>>>EVERY baby is at one time a preborn baby.
>>>
>>>"EVERY baby is at one time a [pre-fertilized] baby."
>>
>>Nope, it's not a baby until the first cell splits.
>
>"Nope, it's not a baby until [it's born]."
hours after birth?
MarkA
Dec 15, 2011, 8:22:30 AM12/15/11
to
On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 20:59:19 -0800, J wrote:
>
> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
> think again.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.personhoodusa.com/what-is-personhood
>
> If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
> think again.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Personhood is the cultural and legal recognition of the equal and
> unalienable rights of human beings
>
>
<snip>
>
> What is a person? A person is a human being at every age.
I have a question! Since identical twins result from the oocyte splitting
*after* fertilization, does that mean that identical twins are only
"half-people"?
--
MarkA
Keeper of Things Put There Only Just The Night Before
About eight o'clock
W.T.S.
Dec 16, 2011, 12:06:28 AM12/16/11
to
In article <pfpje71grd3a9rn83...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
aware. The fetus before birth can't do any of those things.
>
> The dukester, American-Liar
@cox.net says...
> On 15 Dec 2011 07:48:12 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
> >duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >>>>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
> >duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >>>>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >>>>>>>J <Jerk-...@liar.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
> >>>>>>>>think again.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"There no such thing as pre-[born] babies."
> >>>>
> >>>>EVERY baby is at one time a preborn baby.
> >>>
> >>>"EVERY baby is at one time a [pre-fertilized] baby."
> >>
> >>Nope, it's not a baby until the first cell splits.
> >
> >"Nope, it's not a baby until [it's born]."
>
> What's the difference between a baby 24 hours before birth and the same baby 24
> hours after birth?
A lot. The after birth baby can breath, think, be awake, nurse, and be
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
> >>>>>>>>think again.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"There no such thing as pre-[born] babies."
> >>>>
> >>>>EVERY baby is at one time a preborn baby.
> >>>
> >>>"EVERY baby is at one time a [pre-fertilized] baby."
> >>
> >>Nope, it's not a baby until the first cell splits.
> >
> >"Nope, it's not a baby until [it's born]."
>
> What's the difference between a baby 24 hours before birth and the same baby 24
> hours after birth?
aware. The fetus before birth can't do any of those things.
>
> The dukester, American-Liar
Ray Fischer
Dec 16, 2011, 2:16:19 AM12/16/11
to
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>>>>>J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
>>>>>>>>>think again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"There no such thing as pre-[born] babies."
>>>>>
>>>>>EVERY baby is at one time a preborn baby.
>>>>
>>>>"EVERY baby is at one time a [pre-fertilized] baby."
>>>
>>>Nope, it's not a baby until the first cell splits.
>>
>>"Nope, it's not a baby until [it's born]."
>
>What's the difference between a baby 24 hours before birth and the same baby 24
>hours after birth?
"What's the difference between a baby 24 hours before [fertilization] and the same
> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>>>>>J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
>>>>>>>>>think again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"There no such thing as pre-[born] babies."
>>>>>
>>>>>EVERY baby is at one time a preborn baby.
>>>>
>>>>"EVERY baby is at one time a [pre-fertilized] baby."
>>>
>>>Nope, it's not a baby until the first cell splits.
>>
>>"Nope, it's not a baby until [it's born]."
>
>What's the difference between a baby 24 hours before birth and the same baby 24
>hours after birth?
baby 24 hours after birth?"
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duke
Dec 16, 2011, 7:50:07 AM12/16/11
to
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 23:06:28 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>In article <pfpje71grd3a9rn83...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>@cox.net says...
>> On 15 Dec 2011 07:48:12 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>
>> >duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> >>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >>>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> >>>>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> >>>>>>>J <Jerk-...@liar.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
>> >>>>>>>>think again.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>"There no such thing as pre-[born] babies."
>> >>>>
>> >>>>EVERY baby is at one time a preborn baby.
>> >>>
>> >>>"EVERY baby is at one time a [pre-fertilized] baby."
>> >>
>> >>Nope, it's not a baby until the first cell splits.
>> >
>> >"Nope, it's not a baby until [it's born]."
>>
>> What's the difference between a baby 24 hours before birth and the same baby 24
>> hours after birth?
>A lot. The after birth baby can breath, think, be awake, nurse, and be
>aware. The fetus before birth can't do any of those things.
Now you're really stupid.
>In article <pfpje71grd3a9rn83...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
>@cox.net says...
>> On 15 Dec 2011 07:48:12 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>
>> >duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> >>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >>>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> >>>>>duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> >>>>>>>J <Jerk-...@liar.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>If you're one of those people who think a pre-born baby is not a person,
>> >>>>>>>>think again.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>So you admit to murdering pre-fertilized babies.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>There no such thing as pre-fertilized babies.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>"There no such thing as pre-[born] babies."
>> >>>>
>> >>>>EVERY baby is at one time a preborn baby.
>> >>>
>> >>>"EVERY baby is at one time a [pre-fertilized] baby."
>> >>
>> >>Nope, it's not a baby until the first cell splits.
>> >
>> >"Nope, it's not a baby until [it's born]."
>>
>> What's the difference between a baby 24 hours before birth and the same baby 24
>> hours after birth?
>A lot. The after birth baby can breath, think, be awake, nurse, and be
>aware. The fetus before birth can't do any of those things.
The preborn baby has brain waves, a heart beat, moves about and sucks it's thumb
and is shown to be aware of it's audible surroundings.
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