Whitetail 2012-2013 Winter Season

[snowrider]

Job Fair:
11/15/2012 and 11/17/2012.

Employment Opportunities and Benefits:
http://www.skiwhitetail.com/winter/hours-rates-information/employment

Working at Whitetail is great fun.  If you are interested in becoming a ski or snowboard instructor, please take a look the attached poster (Schools Job Fair Poster 2012) and read the Instructor Training Course Registration:
http://www.skiwhitetail.com/images/upload/ITCRegistration2012.pdf
(Remember to put my name as your referral.)

[snowrider]

The projected opening is December 01.  We will keep a close eye on the weather forecast.

 

If you are a never-ever and want to learn skiing/snowboarding, or if you are a beginner and want to refresh your skill, I would strongly recommend you taking advantage of Whitetail's Learn-to-Ski/Snowboard package.  That package will be offered in early season, and it includes everything - equipment rental, lesson, and lift ticket.  I don't know how much the package is for this coming season, but it used to be only $39.

 

Another important thing is that January is the Learn to Ski & Snowboard Month.  Whitetail also offers that $39 Learn-to-Ski/Snowboard package every Wednesday in January.  If you are a beginner, mark your calendar!  Please see:

 

http://www.skiwhitetail.com/winter/learning/learn-to-ski#&panel1-1

[Isabel]

Any recommendations for places to stay for a few days (during Christmas) in Whitetail? Is whitetail the best place to ski for a few days within a few hours of driving? If not, where would be the best place?  

[snowrider]

- To answer your first question:

Whitetail has some lodging partners near the resort:

http://www.skiwhitetail.com/winter/hours-rates-information/lodging-partners

There is an outlet in Hagerstown:

http://www.premiumoutlets.com/outlets/outlet.asp?id=100

 

- To answer your second question:

Whitetail is good for day tour (only 1.5-hour drive).  For few days skiing, I would recommend Seven Springs or Snowshoe.  You might be interested in this post (from somebody I don't know):

http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Ski/31270223.html

[Isabel]

Thanks for all the information. I will check it out!

[Isabel]

The url for mitbbs is not working, could you send it again. Thanks!

[Isabel]

I checked out the mitbbs. I guess I was not clear. I have friends to share the lodging but we are trying to figure out what is the best place to stay. What I get from the post is that somewhere in the village. It is close to the restaurants as well as the slope.

[snowrider]

Whitetail is opening this Friday.  I'll go there on both Saturday and Sunday.  Let me know if you are going and need a carpool.

 

Another important news is that they offer Learn to Ski/Snowboard Package for only $39 every Wednesday in January.

https://www.skiwhitetail.com/winter/learning/learn-to-ski

[snowrider]

I'll go to Whitetail tomorrow (01/01/2013).  If anyone needs a carpool, please let me know.

[Isabel]

Missed the carpool this time, let me know if you are going next time!

[tel2...@gmail.com]

Isabel,

You missed our last Vail/Beaver Creek trip. There is one spot open in our Lake Tahoe trip in coming Jan 19-25. I have 5 people going to Lake Tahoe and we just need one more to make it a team of six!

Each person will have their own bed and only 2 people sharing a studio condo with a kitchen in a 5 star vacation resort hotel.

Peter 

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[snowrider]

Good news!  Whitetail's Exhibition and Drop In diamond trails have opened!  Now the whole mountain is about 85% open.  I am going there this weekend both Saturday and Sunday.  Please let me know if you are interested in going together.

 

[Isabel]

Yes, I am interested in going this weekend. What time and where should I meet you?

[Isabel]

If anyone is going to Whitetail from DC or MD over the weekend, from now to the end of January, please let me know.  I need a carpool.

[Dun]

I will join you next weekend!

[Peter]

We are coming back from Lake Tahoe tonight and will head up Whitetail tomorrow morning and Sunday. Welcome to join us.

I will attend snowboard instructor training class and my friend Snowrider will teach ski at Whitetail.

[Jihong Wang]

There is a race tomorrow at Whitetail. My son wants to try. We will be there around 8:30.

We have 3 more friends meet there.

Peter,

Do you know anyone else going? Is it possible to get enough people for group rate?

How can we find you?

Thanks,

Jihong

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Peter <tel2...@gmail.com> wrote:

We are coming back from Lake Tahoe tonight and will head up Whitetail tomorrow morning and Sunday. Welcome to join us.

I will attend snowboard instructor training class and my friend Snowrider will teach ski at Whitetail.

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[snowrider]

I was thinking that we could get more negotiation power with the resort if our club had more members.  Skiers/snowboarders in this area go to either Liberty or Whitetail.  They are under the same mother company, but actually they are still competing.  Say, if we had a big group of members, I could talk to my boss to see if they are willing to offer a discount rate specific to the members of CSC.  Since right now we are still growing, we do need more people join our ski/snowboard club.

[Lisa And Nigel]

If CSC could organize a kid learn to ski/ski school in coordination with Whitetail and one or more of the local Chinese schools I bet quite a few parents would join CSC to go as well.

I'd like to get my son and daughter skiing but the costs and driving time is a big hill to climb.

Being able to drop them off for a bus trip to whitetail is a lot more practical. Parents could rotate as volunteer parent chaperones to help keep some order.

[snowrider]

That is a good idea!  Will you be interested in hosting/coordinating that events?  I would love to teach and I can also arrange the best Children Specialists at Whitetail to teach.

[snowrider]

We will have 4 straight days of snow starting from tonight.  I will be there this Saturday and Sunday.  You should go too!  Let me know if you are going!

[tel2...@gmail.com]

I will be riding in WISP on Saturday with a group - lift ticket $39+$4 fee.

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> We will have 4 straight days of snow starting from tonight. I will be there
> this Saturday and Sunday. You should go too! Let me know if you are going!
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[Dennis Chen]

we have a group of 7+ going to whitetail this sunday. 

[snowrider]

I was there last Saturday, and the condition was very good.

I went there last Sunday with some friends. (How come I did not see you guys?!)

I am planning to go to Whitetail this coming weekend again! North East will have a super huge snow storm - we don't have here, but we make snow! Whitetail is making snow day and night. I bet that we will have a good condition again this weekend!

Please let me know if anyone is going, and we might be able to carpool together.

[snowrider]

I am going to Whitetail this Saturday (and maybe Sunday too).  If your are interested in going together, please let me know.

 

 

[snowrider]

The weather report says that we will have two snow days on the weekend.  You got to go skiing this time because Spring is coming and we won't have this good condition too long.  I will be at Whitetail both days.  Let me know if you need carpool arrangement if you are going.

[Jicheng Liu]

I'll be there on Monday with my family but this is only my second ever time - guess can't even go the same lift as you guys... :(

Enjoy! 

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[Peter]

Ski liberty 

[snowrider]

We will have an overnight snow tonight, so tomorrow will be a great day to skiing!  I will be at Whitetail both tomorrow and Sunday.  Let me know if you need a carpool and/or a help of your skiing.

[Dun]

I am going on Sunday. Let's carpool together. I like the early ride . call me when you are home. Thx

[snowrider]

We had a wonderful ski day today with excellent snow condition!  It snowed (and snowed a lot) today - almost whole day!  We skied on fresh powder!  We met old friends and new friends there.  If you were busy and did not go today, I strongly recommend you going skiing tomorrow!  It will be even better after overnight low temperature snowing for tomorrow!

[Peter]

I will be at Whitetail tomorrow - Back mountain

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[snowrider]

The snow bug is biting me again - everytime when a weekend is coming.  How many days have you skied/snowboarded this season?  I have had 24 ski days this season so far...  OK we will see some snow tomorrow.  I will be at Whitetail this Sunday.  If anyone is going on Saturday, just let me know so that we can go together.

 

[Heidi]

i was there today. what a good day to be there. nobody on the trail so i took a nap in the middle of the trail

On Feb 21, 2013, at 8:46 AM, snowrider <snowride...@gmail.com> wrote:

The snow bug is biting me again - everytime when a weekend is coming.  How many days have you skied/snowboarded this season?  I have had 24 ski days this season so far...  OK we will see some snow tomorrow.  I will be at Whitetail this Sunday.  If anyone is going on Saturday, just let me know so that we can go together.

 

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[tel2...@gmail.com]

Was today Thursday? Snow day off 

I'm heading out of west tomorrow to ride Breck, Key, and Vail. 

[snowrider]

I am back from Whitetail just now.  It was a good ski day today.  The snow was not dry (a bit wet), but it was in consistent condition - so there was no drag-and-pull spring-like condition at all.  You got to go skiing tomorrow if you did not go today because Spring is coming soon, and the clock is ticking and counting down.  If you go go tomorrow, DO NOT wear too much because the high will be 50 F.  (It's actually quite comfortable to wear short sleeve and ski.)  I will be at Whitetail tomorrow, if you need any help on your skiing, let me know!

 

[Kathy Du]

I just back from Whitetail too. The snow was really good today. I definitely recommend  to go tommorrow.

On Feb 23, 2013, at 9:56 PM, snowrider <snowride...@gmail.com> wrote:

I am back from Whitetail just now.  It was a good ski day today.  The snow was not dry (a bit wet), but it was in consistent condition - so there was no drag-and-pull spring-like condition at all.  You got to go skiing tomorrow if you did not go today because Spring is coming soon, and the clock is ticking and counting down.  If you go go tomorrow, DO NOT wear too much because the high will be 50 F.  (It's actually quite comfortable to wear short sleeve and ski.)  I will be at Whitetail tomorrow, if you need any help on your skiing, let me know!

 

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[Peter]

Breck is heavily snowing tonight. 

It is powder day tomorrow in both Vail and Breck, or any CO ski resort.

[snowrider]

Nice! I will be there next in the mid of March. Hopefully, the good snow can last that long.

I went to Whitetail again today, and the condition was very good. My total ski days for this season is 26 days so far. Spring is coming soon! I will be at Whitetail next weekend to catch more ski days for the end of season.

Kathy - Since you love skiing so much, you should join our ski trip to the West!

[Peter]

I got on the first chair on 8:30am and were riding down first track on 8:42am.

The powder snow was so sick and my GoPro felt off and shoot 10 feet away from my helmet. If it was not a fresh powder I won't be able to find it. The super glue on GoPro was not strong with my crash on the double blacks.

[snowrider]

Last Saturday (02/23/2013), weather report said a day before that it would be a icy rainy day.  I woke up in the morning and checked the weather report again and found it was a cloudy day, so, of course, I rushed to Whitetail.  The whole resort was quite (so strange on a weekend Saturday), for probably most people did not go because they thought that it would be a icy rainy day.  Anyway, long story short ... it was so quiet, especially the backside (Exhibition Run etc.), and I took a nap on the lift couple times.

[snowrider]

This coming weekend will be an excellent opportunity to go skiing.  Weather report says that both Saturday and Sunday will be sunny and a little bit cloudy with temperature 38 to 25 F - perfect temperature!  You got to take advantage of this excellent weather condition and go now because Spring is coming soon!  I will go to Whitetail on both days!  If you need my help on improving your skiing, please let me know and I can make you a good skier.  Let me know if you are interested in going together.

[Lubing (Larry) Lian]

With night time humidity forecasted to be 55%, we actually need temperature to drop to 24 in order to make good quality snow (http://www.snowathome.com/snowmaking_weather_tools.php).

 

But, no worries, weather channel forecast says low of 23 on Sunday and 24 on Monday.

 

Lubing (Larry) Lian

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[snowrider]

Larry - If you are in this area long enough, you would know that ski resorts here take any possible opportunity to make snow even if it is as high as 31 F.

 

Good news!  I got the latest news just now from Whitetail that there will be snowmaking tonight!  AND ... the weather report says that Saturday and Sunday will be snow days!  We will get a great condition this weekend!  Come and join me to go skiing together.  Spring is coming very soon, and you won't get anything better in the end of this season!  Also if anyone is thinking about improving your skill or fix some skiing problem, let me know and I can definitely help.

 

Please let me know if anyone is interested in going together tomorrow and/or Sunday.

[Lubing (Larry) Lian 廉路兵]

Snowrider - no, I am not in the area long enough, only since 2010. 

But I do understand that snow can be made at temperature as high as 39 degrees (if humidity is less than 10%). 

chart here: http://www.snowathome.com/pdf/wet_bulb_chart_fahrenheit.pdf

However, there is a difference between "good quality snow" and "poor quality snow".....distinguished by purple and blue color in the above chart.

But you are right in the sense that even "poor quality snow" is better than no snow. Since moving east from Utah I have learned, painfully at times, to appreciate that poor quality snow is better than no snow. 

Along this line, I have experienced Vermont in its not-so-great days, during which I had to, on a given trail, stop, take off the skis, carry them on my shoulder, walk over patches of grass, and then put the skis on to continue my journey (I believe the word journey is suitable here ....)

BUT, not-so-great is all relative. 

(1) On one hand, those no-so-great days are so much greater than the days that we have no snow. We are much like the fish appreciating a puddle of water when there is no pond, lake or ocean around.

In this regard, people have learned to appreciate not only any bit of snow we can get, but also anything non-water, including sand, grass, and plastic. I have seen on TV that people do ski them, the sand, the grass, the plastic trail....

(2) One the other hand, any day with less than six inch of fresh natural snow are horrible. In Utah the locals (including my Utah friend who is the subject of the two powder-skiing pictures sent earlier) refuse to ski without the slopes receiving more than six inch of fresh natural snow. At certain other places, people would die for a couple of inch of it...

Anyway, I digress....

Have a great remainder of the season! 

- Larry

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[Lubing (Larry) Lian 廉路兵]

I want to add that eastern snow does have one advantage over western snow, I believe. And that is ski racing. 

I have not seen statistics comparing Olympian ski racers who grew up in the east versus those who grew up in the west. But two of the best current racers and arguably two of the most successful US racers (Bode Miller and Lindsey Vonn) both grew up in the east (one in New Hampshire, one in Minnesota).

If you recall the Salt Lake City Winter Olympics, at times the workers had to use giant syringe to inject water into the race courses because the courses (after receiving too much new snow) were too soft to race on. With skiers rushing down on them at speed up to 90 MPH, those courses better be firm enough to hold the skiers.

The advantage mentioned above is one of the reasons that I am considering picking up a little bit of ski racing, somehow, if I can squeeze some time for it.

Once again, enjoy the rest of the season before the dark days of summer are bestowed upon us -:)

Larry

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Lubing (Larry) Lian 廉路兵 <lub...@gmail.com> wrote:

Snowrider - no, I am not in the area long enough, only since 2010. 

But I do understand that snow can be made at temperature as high as 39 degrees (if humidity is less than 10%). 

chart here: http://www.snowathome.com/pdf/wet_bulb_chart_fahrenheit.pdf

However, there is a difference between "good quality snow" and "poor quality snow".....distinguished by purple and blue color in the above chart.

But you are right in the sense that even "poor quality snow" is better than no snow. Since moving east from Utah I have learned, painfully at times, to appreciate that poor quality snow is better than no snow. 

Along this line, I have experienced Vermont in its not-so-great days, during which I had to, on a given trail, stop, take off the skis, carry them on my shoulder, walk over patches of grass, and then put the skis on to continue my journey (I believe the word journey is suitable here ....)

BUT, not-so-great is all relative. 

(1) On one hand, those no-so-great days are so much greater than the days that we have no snow. We are much like the fish appreciating a puddle of water when there is no pond, lake or ocean around.

In this regard, people have learned to appreciate not only any bit of snow we can get, but also anything non-water, including sand, grass, and plastic. I have seen on TV that people do ski them, the sand, the grass, the plastic trail....

(2) One the other hand, any day with less than six inch of fresh natural snow are horrible. In Utah the locals (including my Utah friend who is the subject of the two powder-skiing pictures sent earlier) refuse to ski without the slopes receiving more than six inch of fresh natural snow. At certain other places, people would die for a couple of inch of it...

Anyway, I digress....

Have a great remainder of the season! 

- Larry

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[snowrider]

Hah!  That's why!  You are too indulged by Utah's fresh powder to accept the fact that we are in the East where some resorts cannot even open on Christmas in some bad years.  That is the fact that skiing in the East needs to deal with rainy, icy, warm, and cold conditions.  We appreciate every possible ski days here because the season is so short, 3 months especially in our Mid-Atlantic, where the first month early condition and last month Spring condition.  When we call our good condition here, westerners will say that "so icy"!  When we call our great condition here, westerners will say that "not much snow"!  What should we do?  We have no choice (except taking ski trips to the West), but we still go skiing every weekend to enjoy "icy" condition the same way as people enjoy grass skiing in some no-snow countries.

 

Normally, the season in our area ends the 3rd weekend of March.  That's why I strongly recommend people to go now (it's rare that the end of Feb. resorts still fully open and have lot of *snow* - machine made).

[Lubing (Larry) Lian 廉路兵]

"icy" snow is good, for two reasons:

(1) It DOES improve one's techniques. It is kind of like you play tennis (or golf, or whatever) with one arm tied to your back, or with two sand bags tied to your legs. After you untie your arm (or the sand bags), you feel like you can fly....

(2) Nietzsche （尼采，哲学家/philosopher) said: if it does not kill you, it will make you stronger...

[Guojing Tang]

Not every skier is that hardcore. For folks just want to get relaxed and enjoy fresh snow, icy is absolutely damper. 

[xinw...@gmail.com]

明天有高手去whitetail或者liberty么？我现在能滑liberty的lower blue（whitney's way, lower heavenly），感觉whitetail的蓝道是不是相比起来更陡一些？最边上的一条fanciful是不是最缓的？如果差不太多我准备去试试。如果snowrider大哥明天在就更好了

[tel2...@gmail.com]

For riders, we are powder hunters! 

[tel2...@gmail.com]

Some POW pictures from yesterday at China Bowl and Blue Sky Basin in Vail, CO.

[snowrider]

I just came back from whitetail. Today's condition is super good, tomorrow will be even better. We got snow today. I will be there also tomorrow. If anyone needs my help, please let me know. Note ... This season is strange because we used to prepare pond skiing the second weekend of march. Now the whole mountain is fully opened with tons of snow and without any pond. You got to go if you missed out today. Send me PM if you want to go with me together.

[snowrider]

Nice!,, we will be there again in two weeks! P ... Start thinking about where we are going to go next season! We will get the pass now!

[snowrider]

Just got back home.  Had the dinner in Rockville with friends.

 

Xin - I will be at Whitetail tomorrow.  Whitetail's trails are much *longer* than those of Liberty.  Fanciful is a good run.  I would recommend that you try Snow Park trail first to see if you feel comfortable.  If you are good with Snow Park trail, then you can try Snow Dancer and Fanciful.

 

I will have line-ups at 10, 12, and 2.  I can ski with you if I am not called up to teach.  PM me your phone number tonight if you will be at Whitetail tomorrow (so that I can call you).  Otherwise, you will go to the advanced class meeting place to find me 10 minutes before the line-ups.

[snowrider]

I forgot to mention one thing!  Another strange thing!  Normally we have a big crowd on Saturday, not to mention the good condition as today.  In regular season, given the good condition like today's, the lift line will be super long.  Guess what ... there was NO line at all today!  (Probably everything think that it's season ending so nobody came.)

[xinw...@gmail.com]

I will be at whitetail around 10am. Hope to see lots of friends there!

[snowrider]

I don't know if anyone is coming.  I just cannot believe that there is no one coming for this super good condition.  See the snow is blowing like crazy:  natural snow today whole day and night + snow making now!

 

http://www.skiwhitetail.com/winter/webcam?id=34

 

 

 

On Thursday, October 25, 2012 9:17:50 AM UTC-4, snowrider wrote:

Job Fair:
11/15/2012 and 11/17/2012.

Employment Opportunities and Benefits:
http://www.skiwhitetail.com/winter/hours-rates-information/employment

Working at Whitetail is great fun.  If you are interested in becoming a ski or snowboard instructor, please take a look the attached poster (Schools Job Fair Poster 2012) and read the Instructor Training Course Registration:
http://www.skiwhitetail.com/images/upload/ITCRegistration2012.pdf
(Remember to put my name as your referral.)

[snowrider]

We met lots of old friends and new friends there today!  The condition was very good, and there was NO lift line at all.  The snow base now is about the same depth as that of the beginning of Febuary in normal year.  People are saying that the season will last till the end of March!  We will have some friends going there on Wednesday!  Let me know if anyone wants to join.

[Peter]

Anyone bought the $199 snowshoe season pass? 

I missed the deadline.

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[Larry Lubing Lian]

Call them. Explain to them that you wanted to buy the season pass last week but got tied up with something important. They might be able to make an exception for you.

Lubing (Larry) Lian

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[snowrider]

Whitetail will get 12 inches natural snow from tonight to tomorrow.  We are going to ski powder tomorrow.  You got to take a snow day off for tomorrow (Wednesday).  Let me know if anyone is going!

[Dun Liang]

If it comes, I will go. 

Yours,

Dun

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 1:02 PM, snowrider <snowride...@gmail.com> wrote:

Whitetail will get 12 inches natural snow from tonight to tomorrow.  We are going to ski powder tomorrow.  You got to take a snow day off for tomorrow (Wednesday).  Let me know if anyone is going!

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[Dennis Chen]

你们时间还真自由，羡慕

[Dun Liang]

The company will most likely close for some time anyway. why waste time on the commute.

Yours,

Dun

[tel2...@gmail.com]

anyone is interested in going to Massanutten today? They got 22"-24" from the storm while Whitetail got wet snow/rain snow...

UPDATED 3/7/13 - All 14 trails and all 8 lifts are open today 9:00 am - 9:00 pm. High today 37, low tonight 26.  22"- 24" yesterday. Today will be awesome!

On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 9:33 AM, <tel2...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, folks,

should we go this afternoon or tomorrow morning? 

I plan to go Ski Liberty after 3pm for the powder. Anyone is interesting? If you can make it to Rio center (target store) nearby 370 & 270 we can carpool and I have an MDX.

[Youchun Yao]

Is anyone interested to go to Whitetail or Liberty tomorrow morning (Friday 3/8) for half day (4 hours)? 

Youchun Yao

[snowrider]

How is the condition at Massanutten today?

[snowrider]

I will be at Whitetail this weekend for both days (Saturday and Sunday).  I might not be there next weekend because we are heading to Colorado on 03/17/2013.

[snowrider]

Let's go skiing this weekend with short sleeve or T shirts.  The finale of this wonderful winter is coming ...   I will go to Whitetail both days.  If you want to join me, please let me know!

[Peter]

I'm at Snowshoe now.

[snowrider]

Today at Whitetail, there was no line at all at all lifts!  The snowbase is still deep (40").  I'll be there tomorrow also to mark my 30th ski day of this season.  If anyone is there by chance, give me a call or go to advance lesson line up looking for me at: 10AM, 12noon, and 2PM.  I'll be flying to Colorado next weekend after this finale skiing.

[snowrider]

I cleaned up my closet and took all my stuff (including my shining silver pin) back from Whitetail.  Today is my last day there for this season.  The snow base is still very deep, and they will still be open next weekend (03/16 and 17).  About the weekend (23 and 24) after next weekend, we don't know yet ...  If you are going next weekend (16 and 17), I recommend that you arrive there and start skiing early (8:30 AM), ski for 4 or 5 hours before the trails become mashed potato.  If you are planning to go the weekend after (23 and 24), you need to check Whitetail's website to know the opening hours.

[snowrider]

Good News - Whitetail is still open this weekend (fully open), and the trails are still in white color (no potato color yet).

Bad News - Whitetail is closing Sunday at 5:00 PM.

 

As you know that I have taken all my stuff from my locker back home, so I won't be there this weekend.  However, I encourage you to go skiing (again) because - I've never seen the closing date without potato color (so this is a relatively good condition). 

[snowrider]

BTW ... Liberty will remain open for another week (if the weather permits) after Whitetail's close.

[Yi Wu]

Hi Youchun Yao,

I will go this Friday but not in the morning.

On Thursday, March 7, 2013 2:36:39 PM UTC-5, yyao wrote: