Question - FTP

[Jan Vrsinsky | 360cities.net]

from the contact form - might be useful to others:

question:

If I send my photos via FTP, how do I set the descriptions of the images??
thanks

Ari

my answer:

You can upload the photos via FTP but you need to add the titles and descriptions via web. There's one useful trick: We automatically name images according to filenames uploaded, e.g. "eiffel-tower-paris.jpg" becomes "Eiffel Tower Paris" - this can save a lot of time.

Jan

[Carlos Chegado Lists]

Jan,

Now that you mention this, I would much prefer that 360cities used the IPTC data fields in the Exif info instead of making me correct the titles and descriptions each time.

Every pano I load onto 360cities comes with GPS data, Title, Description, Keywords embedded in the image via IPTC fields.

Currently after I load the pano, the 360cities website can figure out the GPS coordinates from the exif info and the title from the name of the file. What I would love to have is that it also could read the IPTC data fields and load Title, Description and Keywords automatically. This would avoid a lot of manual copy and pasting for me and for many more 360cities users I suspect.

Could you add this to the developers TODO list please?

My best regards
Os melhores cumprimentos

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Carlos Chegado

360º Immersive Experiences

[Jan Vrsinsky | 360cities.net]

Hi Carlos, yes, good idea. The priority will depend on how many additional cheers and votes this receives, though :)

[Vasilis Triantafyllou]

Awesome idea !!! please implement !!!

[Jan Vrsinsky | 360cities.net]

To make sure we implement it right (once we do), can somebody summarize the list of all required fields and their IDs?

[Carlos Chegado Lists]

Jan,

OK, according to my opinion, this is the info that 360cities needs to extract from the Exif info of the uploaded images:

1) GPS - Already works, is perfect as it is, leave it working like that!

2) Title/Handle - Already Works, Currently takes this from the filename, you may leave it like this, it's OK.

3) TAGs/Keywords - This is not implemented yet, 360cities should read this from the respective IPTC field "Keywords"

4) Description - This is not implemented yet, 360cities should read this from the respective IPTC field "Caption"

The four fields above are the minimum spec we need to make this work. In addition to those, you could add the following optional field:

5) City/Area - 360cities should read this from the respective IPTC field "City" or figure it our from the GPS location automatically and assign the image to an area.

My best regards
Os melhores cumprimentos

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Carlos Chegado

360º Immersive Experiences

[Jan Vrsinsky | 360cities.net]

Copy that.. thanks for the summary!!

For #5 though, this is already automatically the case. Areas are assigned according the position on the map, which might be set by the GPS data in the image. In other words, it's not possible to set areas independently of the gps location, these two are tied together.

[Carlos Chegado Lists]

Great, just take care of #3 and #4 then and make us happy ;-)

My best regards
Os melhores cumprimentos

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Carlos Chegado

360º Immersive Experiences

[Geoff - Spherical Visions]

Can you also include in the GPS data that is extracted from the image the ;
GPSImageRef = Magnetic North
GPSImageDirection = nnn.n
That way those of us that include the image direction won't then have to realign the image to North again when no longer editing the now captured data!

[Carlos Chegado Lists]

Geoff,

This is a brilliant idea, I am 100% in favor of this too.

Ans with new devices coming to market that record camera orientation, this will be a great way to automate our workflow and remove one less hurdle in the publishing process.

My best regards
Os melhores cumprimentos

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Carlos Chegado

360º Immersive Experiences

[Geoff - Spherical Visions]

Jan has the full list made it to the developers yet or do we need to raise a few more voices ?

1) GPS - Already works, but is missing

        GPSImageRef = Magnetic North
        GPSImageDirection = nnn.n

[Jan Vrsinsky | 360cities.net]

This is currently in the development queue (but due to holidays hasn't been implemented yet):

- TAGs - read this from the IPTC field "Keywords"

- Description - read this from the IPTC field "Caption"

Do you know (or do you have a link) to which values can the GPSImageRef have?

I'm not sure about GPSImageDirection. Is it useful for panos?

[Geoff - Spherical Visions]

The EXIF spec which covers the GPS values is here http://www.cipa.jp/english/hyoujunka/kikaku/pdf/DC-008-2010_E.pdf it covers the GPSImageRef values,  I believe at present that all GPS units for cameras use either Magnetic North or True North as the reference value, there are models available to calculate the deviation from Magnetic to True North such as here http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/geomag/WMM/DoDWMM.shtml

The GPSImageDirection value is the important one as it defines the bearing of the centre of the image, this is the value you store as the Heading on 360 Cities hence if it were read then the heading would be set on uploading the image.

[Geoff - Spherical Visions]

and a useful web site is here http://www.magnetic-declination.com/ for those who would like to look up the declination (difference between Magnetic and True), you might even be able to grab the code from here ?

[Jan Vrsinsky | 360cities.net]

Cool. Can you send me a test image to my email address with an explanation of what the correct value is in that file? (for testing)

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[Geoff - Spherical Visions]

Jan, has this been completed ?  The last 3 Pano's I uploaded all seem to have the correct headings without me having to intervene, or was it just luck ?

[Jan Vrsinsky | 360cities.net]

Just luck I'm afraid.

[Geoff - Spherical Visions]

Nope I don't think so :-)

I think your developers saw the easy way and implemented it ;-)

If I upload an image with a ImageDirection set to a value then that value becomes the centre value for the Heading on 360Cities, which is accurate enough for me :-)  Thank you !

Now do the IPTC Caption and Keywords work as well  I wonder ?  I'll try on the next upload ........ OK they haven't got that far it would seem !

[Jan Vrsinsky | 360cities.net]

I can still see the keywords and descriptions in the queue ;)

[Geoff - Spherical Visions]

Either that or it had already been implemented when they did the other GPS-exif details perhaps ? 
I hadn't actually tried I don't think before, but I would have to check that!  I wonder if its been there all the time but we didn't realise it ?