Enduro Timing when no cell reception

[P. Travis James]

All, 

I have a mountain bike enduro event coming up this weekend at a trail network with no cell reception. I can travel a short distance to get it though. Is there a way to use bluetooth to combine start/finish data? 

Here is my normal approach to this type of event. 

• Starting iPad uploads start date to Webscorer.com to complete a Stage
• Finishing laptop uploads finish data to Webscorer.com to complete a Stage
• I do this for multiple stages. 
• I add these stages to a series to determine the overall winner etc.

I know others time it with laps and skipped laps, but I have selected to treat each stage as a separate event and use a series to pull it together. Here is an example: https://www.webscorer.com/seriesresult?seriesid=402637

Regardless, I believe the two approaches need to push the data to Webscorer.com for processing. Is there a way to do this using bluetooth? 

Thanks,

Travis with RCMBA

[Vesa Suomalainen]

There is a way to combine results via Bluetooth if you use the “Exclude laps” method vs, the “Results series” method of combining the times from multiple stages.

Details on this article:

https://www.webscorer.com/blog/post/How-to-time-an-enduro-mountain-biking-race-with-Webscorer

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[P. Travis James]

Thank you, Vesa. I thought you would have a solution, as always. I will take a look. 

-Travis

[P. Travis James]

Vesa (and others), one follow up questions/complication. 

Not all racers race all of the stages. Example, Beginners only do two of the stages while Expert do four stages (expert race the same two as the beginners plus two others). Will the Exclude Laps method work in this situation? I know for the Result series approach, I make a separate series for each so that the results don't say "-2 laps" etc. 

Thanks,

Travis

On Tue, May 12, 2026 at 6:59 AM Vesa Suomalainen <ve...@webscorer.com> wrote:

[Vesa Suomalainen]

You’d use both “Exclude laps” and “Skip laps” options as follows:

Start type = Individual

Multiple distances = On

Record lap times = On

  Beginners: 7 laps

  Experts: 7 laps

Customize lap names = On

  Start = S1 start

  Lap 1 = Stage 1

  Lap 2 = S2 start

  Lap 3 = Stage 2

  Lap 4 = S3 start

  Lap 5 = Stage 3

  Lap 6 = S4 start

  Lap 7 = Stage 4

Skip laps = On

  Beginners: Skip = S3 start, Stage 3, S4 start, Stage 4

  Experts: Skip = None

Exclude laps = On

  Beginners: Exclude = S2 start

  ExpertsL Exclude = S2 start, S3 start, S4 start

Timing mode = Multi-device splits

  Device #1 records = S1 start, S2 start, S3 start, S4 start

  Device #2 records = Stage 1, Stage 2, Stage 3, Stage 4

[Larry Wilkinson]

It’s a costly option.   I have added a Starlink mini so i can connect to the internet in dead zones.  I am quite happy with its performance in the wooded area where I use it.  I mount it on a tripod and use a bluetti battery power source.  The pros are it’s portable, works in cellular dead zones and you can turn the service on and off.  The cons are that it’s extra stuff to carry and setup and it adds cost.

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[P. Travis James]

Great. I will give this a test run. Thanks!

-Travis

[P. Travis James]

Thanks Larry. I think this is definitely worth looking into. We are rural and there are many areas not covered by cell in our region. 

-Travis

[P. Travis James]

Vesa, 

One more wrinkle. The race director has the Experts order as Stage 3, 1, 2, 4 and Beginners order as Stage 1, 2. Any way to do this so that "Stage 1" means the same thing for both groups, so times are comparable? 

Thanks, 

Travis

[Vesa Suomalainen]

Negative - the “exclude laps” method requires that the stages are traversed in order.

The workaround is to go back to timing each stage as a point-to-point race and use the website results method to combine results with Larry’s suggestion to get a Starlink terminal.

[P. Travis James]

Thanks Vesa. That makes sense. 

-Travis