WebP and Picasa

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Smiley D

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Oct 1, 2010, 4:11:59 AM10/1/10
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Will google use the WebP format in programs like Picasa and picasa
webalbums eg to reduce storage size ? ?

Witold Baryluk

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Oct 1, 2010, 11:54:04 AM10/1/10
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On 1 Paź, 10:11, Smiley D <smil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Will google use the WebP format in programs like Picasa and picasa
> webalbums eg to reduce storage size ? ?

What is a point of developing image format and not using it?

I think they will just convert all new image to webp (after it will be
stabilized of course),
or even convert slowly all old images to webp (and still keep jpegs).
Because of replication, they currently store each jpeg multiple times.
Introducing webp will save lots of loading time and network traffic,
but will consume additional space on servers. I think they will just
provide higher replication for webp, and lower for jpeg,
and if nacassary will reconvert jpeg from jpeg, if all jpeg
files will be lost (for example when server, hard disk crashes).
So, hard disk space usage will grow no more than 10% ideally in the
future
(probably)
(as webp is smaller, and jpeg replication could be lower,
both becuase of safety, and beacuase of more and more
browsers will support webp, thus not needing such high performance
when delivering them).

It will be most beneficial for phones, and other slow network devices.

Not only usefull for picassa, but also google maps, or google image
search,
showing thumbnails of mail attachments in gmail, thumbnails of videos
in youtube,
and many other possibilities.



Chopchurch

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Oct 1, 2010, 12:58:12 PM10/1/10
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On Oct 1, 4:11 am, Smiley D <smil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Will google use the WebP format in programs like Picasa and picasa
> webalbums eg to reduce storage size ? ?

I'd like to know this as well. Why are they half assing this launch?
WebP support should have been built into Google Docs, Picnik and
Picasa before this announcement was even made. And if you launch and
push a proprietary video format like WebM, maybe you should release a
Lite Version of On2's video encoder/editor to the public? Something
like Picasa but for video with Videolan built in for Playback. Maybe
an Avidemux/Miro Video Converter/Videolan hybrid.

oX Triangle

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Jun 18, 2013, 8:12:08 AM6/18/13
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exist any news about picasa & co to support webp more
i cant save webp images (v136.20) and a friend say
"... it would be really good to be able to export or email WebP images from Picasa and not have them convert back to jpg by Picasa."

Pascal Massimino

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Jun 18, 2013, 10:38:24 AM6/18/13
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Hi,

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Smiley D <smi...@gmail.com> wrote:
Will google use the WebP format in programs like Picasa and picasa
webalbums eg to reduce storage size ? ?

Picasa has been WebP-aware almost since the beginning, at least on the upload side:
 you can upload a WebP file (or even edit it in Picasa client) and it will be kept
as such on the server. You can download it back ("download original") in WebP.
Picasa preserves the source (unless specified otherwise).

Afterward, serving and displaying is another matter: it depends on the device
you want to display the file on (desktop/mobile/tablet/etc). A lot of conversion
and processing occur there (rescaling, webp->jpeg, jpeg->webp, etc.), that is
not always obvious to see (for instance on mobile phone, it's hard to tell exactly what
format is used, and that's about right: it shouldn't matter).

Note that Picasa is only the visible tip of the image processing. The same
conversion and processing goes with Google+, Drive, docs, etc. most of the time.

Best is to just try uploading to Picasa!
Here's an example: Bryce Canyon

skal

oX Triangle

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Jun 18, 2013, 11:59:55 AM6/18/13
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i cant save/export jpegs in webp (picasa win 136.20)
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