Software to make WebM and other video files.

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Daniel Carrera

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Aug 30, 2011, 8:05:26 AM8/30/11
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Hello,

I am looking for a desktop program (commercial is fine) that can produce
a variety of video formats. In particular:

- WebM
- FLV (Flash Video)
- MPEG (the old format that old Windows computers support).


It is no problem to use commercial software as long as it works and
works without hassle. I've been to the webmproject.org website and I've
been frustrated to find that just about every "commercial WebM tool"
seems to be a website where you have a subscription, pay a monthly fee
and they host your videos. That is not what I want. I want to do one-off
conversions that I can host on my own. We have no need or desire to
tangle a web hosting option with video format conversion.

Does anyone have any suggestions. Preferably, the software would also
run on Linux so I can test it on my computer. A free trial is important
too so we can confirm that the software does what we want before buying.

Any suggestions?

Daniel.
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Kevin Louden

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Aug 30, 2011, 8:38:12 AM8/30/11
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Telestreams Episode encoder<http://www.telestream.net/episode/overview.htm> can handle all of those conversions. It does not run on Linux but there is a mac and windows version. There is also a free trial available.

Kevin Louden
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On Aug 30, 2011, at 8:05 AM, Daniel Carrera wrote:

Hello,

I am looking for a desktop program (commercial is fine) that can produce
a variety of video formats. In particular:

- WebM
- FLV (Flash Video)
- MPEG (the old format that old Windows computers support).


It is no problem to use commercial software as long as it works and

works without hassle. I've been to the webmproject.org<http://webmproject.org> website and I've


been frustrated to find that just about every "commercial WebM tool"
seems to be a website where you have a subscription, pay a monthly fee
and they host your videos. That is not what I want. I want to do one-off
conversions that I can host on my own. We have no need or desire to
tangle a web hosting option with video format conversion.

Does anyone have any suggestions. Preferably, the software would also
run on Linux so I can test it on my computer. A free trial is important
too so we can confirm that the software does what we want before buying.

Any suggestions?

Daniel.
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I'm not overweight, I'm undertall.

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Carlo Strata

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Aug 30, 2011, 9:00:05 AM8/30/11
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Hi Daniel!

I can suggest you:

- to *create* video file

-- this is a very pro (great) product that has been open sourced and it
is free and that it is to be followed (now only for Windows)
http://www.lightworksbeta.com/

-- this is a multiplatform video transcoder
http://www.avidemux.org/
http://avidemux.berlios.de/index.html

-- Linux too
http://www.openmovieeditor.org/

-- Linux only
http://cinelerra.org/

-- Linux too
http://www.openshotvideo.com/

-- VirtualDub, win32 and win64, you need to install WebM Windows codec
http://www.virtualdub.org/


- to *stream* your video you can use
http://www.flumotion.net/


- this is the great universal player (and sometime coder too!)
multiplatform; use this as client to *view* your videos also in your old
Windows pc (!!!)
http://www.videolan.org/


This are some first examples that I hope they could help you.

Have a nice day,

Carlo

Daniel Carrera

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Aug 30, 2011, 10:02:06 AM8/30/11
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Thanks! It sounds good. I'll try it.

Daniel.

Daniel Carrera

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Aug 30, 2011, 10:02:52 AM8/30/11
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Wow. A lot of options. I'll try them. Thanks.

Pavel Koshevoy

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Aug 30, 2011, 10:56:04 AM8/30/11
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I want to recommend Sorenson Squeeze. Although it does not run on Linux
(due to QuickTime/DirectShow dependencies) -- it does run on Windows and
OSX. A free trial is available. Multiple formats/codecs are supported,
including the formats you've listed. Here is a an overview:
http://www.sorensonmedia.com/video-encoding/

I am a software engineer working on Sorenson Squeeze for the past 4.5
years. I hope you like it.

Pavel.

Silvia Pfeiffer

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Aug 30, 2011, 8:17:47 PM8/30/11
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How about miroconverter: http://www.mirovideoconverter.com/

Cheers,
Silvia.

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Carlo Strata

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Aug 31, 2011, 4:46:59 AM8/31/11
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Very interesting: 100% Free and open-source...

Open Source is in Software DNA and in XXI Century Economy DNA. It's
unuseful (Human Being Wasted Time and Life!!!) each time "to build from
the wheel" and restart again over and over: all people to follow the
same route... Share your Knowledge and go Forward in the True Evolution!!!

(Added Value) Services (Design, Installed End User Solutions and so on)
have to be payed for.

Have a nice day,

Carlo

Daniel Carrera

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Aug 31, 2011, 7:44:39 AM8/31/11
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Miro won't do FLV or MPEG though :-(

Silvia Pfeiffer

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Aug 31, 2011, 10:30:06 AM8/31/11
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It converts from FLV to MPEG (MP4), Ogg and WebM. It doesn't convert to FLV, no.
But it does convert from and to MPEG, Ogg and WebM, which is what you
need for the Web.

Cheers,
Silvia.

Silvia Pfeiffer

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Aug 31, 2011, 10:31:12 AM8/31/11
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Incidentally - what do you need FLV for? Most modern flash players
play back H.264 (which is MPEG's MP4).
HTH,
Silvia.

Daniel Carrera

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Aug 31, 2011, 1:53:32 PM8/31/11
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Well, "most" might not be enough. We are including FLV and MPEG because
we want to make the videos accessible to the widest feasible audience.
For example, our computer lab has default Windows XP installations and
the only think they'll play is MPEG-1.

In any case, how would you use a flash player to play H.264? We are not
putting the videos directly on the page, as with the <object> tag.
Instead, we have some direct links that the user can click on. In a
browser with Flash, if you click on a .flv file, that will play on
Flash, but if you click on a .mp4 file it won't.


On 08/31/2011 04:31 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
> Incidentally - what do you need FLV for? Most modern flash players
> play back H.264 (which is MPEG's MP4).
> HTH,
> Silvia.
>
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 12:30 AM, Silvia Pfeiffer
> <silviap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> It converts from FLV to MPEG (MP4), Ogg and WebM. It doesn't convert to FLV, no.
>> But it does convert from and to MPEG, Ogg and WebM, which is what you
>> need for the Web.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Silvia.

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Silvia Pfeiffer

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Aug 31, 2011, 6:52:30 PM8/31/11
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On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 3:53 AM, Daniel Carrera <dcar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, "most" might not be enough. We are including FLV and MPEG because we
> want to make the videos accessible to the widest feasible audience. For
> example, our computer lab has default Windows XP installations and the only
> think they'll play is MPEG-1.

For playing back MPEG-1 you can indeed only provide a download link.
However: even Windows XP installations will have browsers that can run
a Flash plugin with H.264 support. You would however need to make sure
that the Flash plugin is installed on these computers. You have the
same problem for FLV there, btw. So I would think that you don't need
FLV but only MPEG-1, MP4 and WebM.

> In any case, how would you use a flash player to play H.264?

You just need a Flash plugin installed in the browser and then use a
Flash video player such as JWPlayer or Flowplayer. They will play back
MP4/H.264.

> We are not
> putting the videos directly on the page, as with the <object> tag.

That's a strange way to publish video online then. Why not use <video>
for those of your users that have modern HTML5 browsers with a
<object> fallback to Flash and FLV or MP4, and a final fallback to a
download link if all of the above fail? There are JavaScript libraries
available that will do this stuff for you, such as VideoJS,
MediaElementJS, SublimeVideo, JWPlayer, and many more, see e.g.
http://www.designscripting.com/2011/03/top-7-html5-video-player-free-html5-player/
.

> Instead,
> we have some direct links that the user can click on.

Sounds backwards to me. You're expecting the user to know what their
platform can support and play back to them. I think that's asking a
lot from your users. Most likely they will simply not watch any videos
as a reaction.

> In a browser with
> Flash, if you click on a .flv file, that will play on Flash, but if you
> click on a .mp4 file it won't.

Having the Adobe Flash plugin installed does not guarantee you
playback. You get the playback through putting a SWF on your server
and into a <object>/<embed> element. I'm surprised you're saying the
plain Adobe Plugin would play back FLV files without an actual Flash
player - are you sure about that?

Cheers,
Silvia.

abushcrafter

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Sep 5, 2011, 6:40:28 PM9/5/11
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Multi-platform:
ffmpeg2theora (Only OGG,Theora,Vorbis)
ffmpeg
libav http://libav.org/ (A ffmepg fork.)

M$ Windows:
Super http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html

Fernando Cassia

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Sep 5, 2011, 7:42:32 PM9/5/11
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On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 09:05, Daniel Carrera <dcar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions. Preferably, the software would also run on
> Linux so I can test it on my computer.

www.winff.org

it features, a GUI, is open source, uses WinFF as back-end, and
creates webM just fine.

Not sure why you insist on a commercial tool?

FC

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