Streamflow is too low compared with the USGS observation

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Ted

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Apr 29, 2022, 2:17:14 PM4/29/22
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Dear All,

I simulate the US north-east region with WRF-hydro standalone. I compared my model results with USGS observations. I found that the simulated streamflow is much lower than the observed (Please see the attached figures). The discharge at Delaware River station is ~400 m^3/s, but is less than 1 in my results. 

I used NoahMP land model. I used my WRF outputs as inputs and included precipitation hourly. I also attached my namelist files. 
 
Does anyone have any idea about this problem?

Thanks.

Ted
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Kevin

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May 2, 2022, 1:55:09 PM5/2/22
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Ted,

I answered this question via direct message, but I wanted to provide some feedback here for other users experiencing similar results. After looking at your domain configuration, I think the problem is that your simulated basin are for the Delaware River is far too small. It appears that the DEM that was used in the GIS Pre-processing tools was too coarse resolution, resulting in some hydrographic artifacts and a very limited drainage area for your intended basin. The solution should be to use an appropriate resolution for your input high-resolution DEM (such as 90-250m). Be sure to check the FLOWACC, CHANNELGRID, and basn_msk grids in the outputs to make sure that the hydrography in your simulation matches reality. Also, a longer spin-up period may be necessary to warm up the land surface in your simulation.

Cheers,

Kevin

Sujan Pal

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May 20, 2022, 11:15:30 AM5/20/22
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I agree with Kevin. I found realistic simulated discharge at Delaware River using a larger WRF-Hydro domain and longer spin-up. You can look at my domain and model specifics over northeastern US here - https://doi.org/10.1002/essoar.10511327.1

Best,
Sujan 

Ted

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May 23, 2022, 1:03:35 PM5/23/22
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Hi Sujan,

Do you still remember how long it took to run  you case for the six-month spin-up?

Now I am running the whole year of 2021 for spinning up. I set the output every 24 h so that it will not spend too much time on writing netcdf files. I found that sometimes the model runs ~14 min for one hour, while sometimes it could take several hours for simulating one hour. Is this normal? For example, below are the creating time of the restart files.

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As is shown, in my case, it took 12 minutes to run from Feb 20 to Feb 21. However, it took almost 3h to run from Mar. 1 to Mar. 2. Have you met this problem? Thank you.

For my case, my domain is covers the similar region as yours. The WRF grid spacing is 3 km. The resolution of routing model is 250 m. The grid size is 6516 * 7380. I used 528 cores to run my job (22 nodes, with ppn of 24).
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Thank you so much.

Regards,
Ted

Sujan Pal

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May 24, 2022, 5:27:59 PM5/24/22
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Hi Ted,

I think this is possible for a large domain while converging to a numerical solution may take different times. Also, the run time depends on what types of output you are saving. For my paper, the main goal was to save 200-m inland flood depth/ surface water depth every hour which took significant amount time. Also, saving the restart files may take quite a while. One year of my simulations roughly took 1.5 days (I used 1296 cores). However for the spin-up runs, you may limit the number of restart files (maybe save every 15 days or month) and generate only the land model/ coarse resolution outputs to make it faster. 

Hope this helps.
Thanks,
Sujan



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