BOINC client 8.2.1 ready for testing

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David P. Anderson

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Apr 18, 2025, 11:29:19 PMApr 18
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Great news! A new version of the BOINC client is ready to test.
The release notes are here:
https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/wiki/Client-release-notes

The major new feature is support for Docker apps.
Docker is a 'container' technology: sort of like virtual machines,
but more efficient and easy to use.
We think that Docker is the future of BOINC.
The 8.2.1 client detects Docker (or its open-source variant, Podman)
and reports it to projects.
Currently two projects have Docker apps: LHC@home and BOINC Central.

Eventually we plan to offer Podman in the BOINC installer,
but for now you have to install it yourself.
This is easy to do; instructions are here:
https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/wiki/Installing-Docker

As usual, report test results here:
https://boinc.berkeley.edu/alpha/test_form.php

Thanks for your help!

-- David

Georges Vinotte

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Apr 19, 2025, 9:06:42 AMApr 19
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Hi David and all Team Members,

Thanks for fixing the issue with directory permissions on every MacOS update, but all Apple Silicon Mac owners are still experiencing this issue:
Since 8.0.0, and the change to add Apple GPU as official GPU type, many projects are no more able to handled our GPUs.

I know that the work to do is on the project managers hands, but is a workaround possible?

Georges (GPV67)


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David P. Anderson

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Apr 22, 2025, 8:48:30 PMApr 22
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Dear Alpha testers:
We don't have any test results for 8.2.1 so far.
Please test it, and report results on the BOINC Alpha site:
https://boinc.berkeley.edu/alpha/test_form.php

Remember: we need positive test results, not just bug reports;
otherwise we can't be sure that things are working on a wide range of computers.

Thanks -- David and Vitalii

La Poste

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Apr 24, 2025, 9:22:39 AMApr 24
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Hello everyone,

As LHC@home have no tasks to sent for my Apple silicon Mac (under macOS 15.4.1), I will soon revert back to BM 7.24.4.
Some projects are looking for Apple silicon GPU with the old name.

I’m not sure Docker is detected by BM, despite I have installed podman-installer-macos-arm64.pkg.
I also ran the commands 'podman machine init' and 'podman machine start’ without any errors.

See BM logs at startup:
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:47 2025 |  | cc_config.xml not found - using defaults
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:48 2025 |  | Starting BOINC client version 8.2.1 for arm64-apple-darwin
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:48 2025 |  | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:48 2025 |  | Libraries: libcurl/7.79.1 SecureTransport zlib/1.2.12 c-ares/1.17.2
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:48 2025 |  | Data directory: /Library/Application Support/BOINC Data
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | OpenCL: Apple GPU 0: Apple M3 Pro (driver version 1.2 1.0, device version OpenCL 1.2, 27.00GB, 27.00GB available, 144 GFLOPS peak)
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | Computer name: GPV-Book.lan
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | Processor: 12 Apple Apple M3 Pro
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | Processor features: amx_version_0 arm64 armv8_1_atomics armv8_2_fhm armv8_2_sha3 armv8_2_sha512 armv8_crc32 floatingpoint neon neon_fp16 neon_hpfp ucnormal_mem fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clfsh ds acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pbe pni pclmulqdq dtse64 mon dscpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 tpr pdcm sse4_1 sse4_2 aes seglim64
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | OS: Mac OS X 15.4.1 (Darwin 24.4.0)
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | Memory: 36.00 GB physical, 470.46 GB virtual
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | Disk: 926.35 GB total, 470.46 GB free
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | Local time is UTC +2 hours
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 | PrimeGrid | Computing prefs: from PrimeGrid (last modified 05-Jan-2025 14:52:21)
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 | PrimeGrid | Computing prefs: computer location unspecified; using default
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | Reading preferences override file
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | Computing preferences:
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | -  When computer is in use
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | -     'In use' means mouse/keyboard input in last 3.00 minutes
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | -     don't use GPU
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | -     max CPUs used: 6
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | -     Use at most 100% of the CPU time
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | -     max memory usage: 32.40 GB
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | -  When computer is not in use
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | -     max CPUs used: 6
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | -     Use at most 100% of the CPU time
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | -     max memory usage: 32.40 GB
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | -  Suspend if running on batteries
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | -  Leave apps in memory if not running
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | -  Store at least 0.00 days of work
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | -  Store up to an additional 0.10 days of work
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | -  max disk usage: 100.00 GB
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | -  (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select 'Options / Computing preferences...' in the Manager)
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | Setting up project and slot directories
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | projects/virtualbox is not a project directory
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | Checking active tasks
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | Using account manager BOINCstatsBAM!
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 | Amicable Numbers | URL https://sech.me/boinc/Amicable/; Computer ID 241880; resource share 10
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 | DENIS@home | URL https://denis.usj.es/denisathome/; Computer ID 242226; resource share 10
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 | Einstein@Home | URL https://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/; Computer ID 13189291; resource share 10
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 | LHC@home | URL https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/; Computer ID 10873584; resource share 10
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 | LODA | URL https://boinc.loda-lang.org/loda/; Computer ID 11327; resource share 10
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 | PrimeGrid | URL http://www.primegrid.com/; Computer ID 1348099; resource share 10
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 | PrimeGrid | Not using CPU: project preferences
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 | World Community Grid | URL http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/; Computer ID 8790727; resource share 10
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | Setting up GUI RPC socket
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | Checking presence of 169 project files
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | Some projects require Docker.
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:49 2025 |  | To install Docker, visit https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/wiki/Installing-Docker
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:50 2025 | DENIS@home | Starting task DENIS_Fiber_Beta_20250423133034229252_InitialTest_k_0-Test_10-conf_558_1
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:50 2025 | DENIS@home | Starting task DENIS_Fiber_Beta_20250423133034229252_InitialTest_k_0-Test_10-conf_561_0
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:50 2025 | DENIS@home | Starting task DENIS_Fiber_Beta_20250423133034229252_InitialTest_k_0-Test_10-conf_56_0
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:50 2025 | DENIS@home | Starting task DENIS_Fiber_Beta_20250423133034229252_InitialTest_k_0-Test_10-conf_560_0
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:50 2025 | LHC@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:50 2025 | LHC@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and Apple GPU
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:51 2025 | LHC@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:51 2025 | LHC@home | No tasks sent
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:51 2025 | LHC@home | Message du serveur: VirtualBox is not installed
Jeu 24 avr 13:27:51 2025 | LHC@home | Project requested delay of 6 seconds
Jeu 24 avr 13:41:45 2025 | DENIS@home | Computation for task DENIS_Fiber_Beta_20250423133034229252_InitialTest_k_0-Test_10-conf_558_1 finished
Jeu 24 avr 13:41:45 2025 | DENIS@home | Starting task DENIS_Fiber_Beta_20250423133034229252_InitialTest_k_0-Test_10-conf_553_1
Jeu 24 avr 13:41:46 2025 | DENIS@home | Computation for task DENIS_Fiber_Beta_20250423133034229252_InitialTest_k_0-Test_10-conf_560_0 finished
Jeu 24 avr 13:41:46 2025 | DENIS@home | Starting task DENIS_Fiber_Beta_20250423133034229252_InitialTest_k_0-Test_10-conf_556_1
Jeu 24 avr 13:41:47 2025 | DENIS@home | Started upload of DENIS_Fiber_Beta_20250423133034229252_InitialTest_k_0-Test_10-conf_558_1_r851901559_0
Jeu 24 avr 13:41:47 2025 | DENIS@home | Started upload of DENIS_Fiber_Beta_20250423133034229252_InitialTest_k_0-Test_10-conf_558_1_r851901559_1
Jeu 24 avr 13:41:47 2025 | DENIS@home | Computation for task DENIS_Fiber_Beta_20250423133034229252_InitialTest_k_0-Test_10-conf_56_0 finished
Jeu 24 avr 13:41:47 2025 | DENIS@home | Starting task DENIS_Fiber_Beta_20250423133034229252_InitialTest_k_0-Test_10-conf_555_1
Jeu 24 avr 13:41:48 2025 | DENIS@home | Finished upload of DENIS_Fiber_Beta_20250423133034229252_InitialTest_k_0-Test_10-conf_558_1_r851901559_1 (1714 bytes)
Jeu 24 avr 13:41:48 2025 | DENIS@home | Started upload of DENIS_Fiber_Beta_20250423133034229252_InitialTest_k_0-Test_10-conf_560_0_r1629541319_0
Jeu 24 avr 13:41:48 2025 | DENIS@home | Computation for task DENIS_Fiber_Beta_20250423133034229252_InitialTest_k_0-Test_10-conf_561_0 finished
Jeu 24 avr 13:41:48 2025 | DENIS@home | Starting task DENIS_Fiber_Beta_20250423133034229252_InitialTest_k_0-Test_10-conf_559_1
Jeu 24 avr 13:41:49 2025 | DENIS@home | Finished upload of DENIS_Fiber_Beta_20250423133034229252_InitialTest_k_0-Test_10-conf_558_1_r851901559_0 (783264 bytes)
Jeu 24 avr 13:41:49 2025 | DENIS@home | Started upload of DENIS_Fiber_Beta_20250423133034229252_InitialTest_k_0-Test_10-conf_560_0_r1629541319_1
Jeu 24 avr 13:41:49 2025 | DENIS@home | Computation for task DENIS_Fiber_Beta_20250423133034229252_InitialTest_k_0-Test_10-conf_166_1 finished
Jeu 24 avr 13:41:50 2025 | DENIS@home | Starting task DENIS_Fiber_Beta_20250423133034229252_InitialTest_k_0-Test_10-conf_554_1
Jeu 24 avr 13:41:50 2025 | LHC@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
Jeu 24 avr 13:41:50 2025 | LHC@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and Apple GPU
Jeu 24 avr 13:41:51 2025 | LHC@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
Jeu 24 avr 13:41:51 2025 | LHC@home | No tasks sent
Jeu 24 avr 13:41:51 2025 | LHC@home | Message du serveur: VirtualBox is not installed
Jeu 24 avr 13:41:51 2025 | LHC@home | Project requested delay of 6 seconds

I'm willing to do some additional testing, with more logs options.

Georges

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Michael E.

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Using windows 11, Windows Subsystem for Linux, CPU only

Yesterday (April 23) I got some BOINC Central work units (tasks) but got an error while processing:
   4/23/2025 3:37:37 PM | BOINC Central | Starting task batch_83__job_job-000537_0
   4/23/2025 3:37:41 PM | BOINC Central | Computation for task batch_83__job_job-000537_0 finished
   4/23/2025 3:37:41 PM | BOINC Central | Output file batch_83__job_job-000537_0_r1965562594_0 for task batch_83__job_job-000537_0 absent

Today April 24, I got some more tasks and these seem to process successfully:
   4/24/2025 2:46:52 PM | BOINC Central | Starting task batch_84__job_job-000607_0
   4/24/2025 2:46:54 PM | BOINC Central | Started upload of batch_84__job_job-000517_0_r67781893_0
   4/24/2025 2:46:56 PM | BOINC Central | Finished upload of batch_84__job_job-000517_0_r67781893_0 (2105 bytes)
   4/24/2025 2:46:59 PM | BOINC Central | Sending scheduler request: To report completed tasks.
   4/24/2025 2:46:59 PM | BOINC Central | Reporting 1 completed tasks

These BOINC Central tasks take about 1 minute to process. 


Also, general questions: 
 - I will process about 30 BOINC Central tasks  and will leave some for others. Glad to process more later. How much is enough?
 - I was wondering if I can view my previously submitted test reports. 
 - How often do you want a test report? Is about daily OK?

Mike

Alex Piskun

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Apr 27, 2025, 4:06:10 PMApr 27
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When I try to submit test results for Docker tests, I get a reply:

General tests: updating existing report
Clean install and uninstall: updating existing report
Test report accepted
Test report accepted - thank you.
Submit more test results

but the result and comments are not retained when returning to the report results page.
Is it just me or does anyone else see this?
There are no Docker test results reported so far: https://boinc.berkeley.edu/alpha/test_details.php?version=8.2.1&server=0

Alex

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David P. Anderson

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Apr 27, 2025, 6:06:53 PMApr 27
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Thanks for pointing this out; I fixed the issue.

Alpha testers: please re-submit results of the Docker test.
Sorry for the inconvenience.

-- David

Michael E.

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Apr 27, 2025, 6:44:11 PMApr 27
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Hello David,

None of my test report submissions appear at: https://boinc.berkeley.edu/alpha/test_details.php?version=8.2.1&server=0 

I submitted several test reports. I was not sure how often to submit them.

Is that normal or just Rookie tester luck :-).  I did submit an email to the group about the dockser test on Apr 24, 2025, 3:04:48 PM,  so that is not lost.

Mike

La Poste

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Apr 27, 2025, 7:23:55 PMApr 27
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Hi David,

I performed a clean install of Boinc client on my Mac Apple silicon (under MacOS 15.4.1)

Podman is no longer detected by client, even I reinstalled podman-installer-macos-arm64.pkg (version 5.4.2)
I also tried with Podman version 5.5.0-rc1 ; same issue.

See below event log at startup:

Lun 28 avr 01:04:21 2025 |  | cc_config.xml not found - using defaults
Lun 28 avr 01:04:22 2025 |  | Starting BOINC client version 8.2.1 for arm64-apple-darwin
Lun 28 avr 01:04:22 2025 |  | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
Lun 28 avr 01:04:22 2025 |  | Libraries: libcurl/7.79.1 SecureTransport zlib/1.2.12 c-ares/1.17.2
Lun 28 avr 01:04:22 2025 |  | Data directory: /Library/Application Support/BOINC Data
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | OpenCL: Apple GPU 0: Apple M3 Pro (driver version 1.2 1.0, device version OpenCL 1.2, 27.00GB, 27.00GB available, 144 GFLOPS peak)
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | Computer name: GPV-Book.lan
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | Processor: 12 Apple Apple M3 Pro
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | Processor features: amx_version_0 arm64 armv8_1_atomics armv8_2_fhm armv8_2_sha3 armv8_2_sha512 armv8_crc32 floatingpoint neon neon_fp16 neon_hpfp ucnormal_mem fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clfsh ds acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pbe pni pclmulqdq dtse64 mon dscpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 tpr pdcm sse4_1 sse4_2 aes seglim64
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | OS: Mac OS X 15.4.1 (Darwin 24.4.0)
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | Memory: 36.00 GB physical, 465.85 GB virtual
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | Disk: 926.35 GB total, 465.85 GB free
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | Local time is UTC +2 hours
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | No general preferences found - using defaults
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | Computing preferences:
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | -  When computer is in use
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | -     'In use' means mouse/keyboard input in last 3.00 minutes
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | -     don't use GPU
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | -     Use at most 100% of the CPU time
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | -     suspend if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 25%
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | -     max memory usage: 18.00 GB
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | -  When computer is not in use
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | -     max CPUs used: 12
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | -     Use at most 100% of the CPU time
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | -     suspend if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 50%
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | -     max memory usage: 32.40 GB
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | -  Suspend if running on batteries
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | -  Store at least 0.10 days of work
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | -  Store up to an additional 0.50 days of work
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | -  max disk usage: 465.75 GB
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | -  (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select 'Options / Computing preferences...' in the Manager)
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | Setting up project and slot directories
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | projects/virtualbox is not a project directory
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | Checking active tasks
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 | BOINC Central | URL https://boinc.berkeley.edu/central/; Computer ID 32759; resource share 10
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | Setting up GUI RPC socket
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | Checking presence of 0 project files
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | Some projects require Docker.
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | To install Docker, visit https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/wiki/Installing-Docker
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 |  | Suspending GPU computation - computer is in use
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 | BOINC Central | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
Lun 28 avr 01:04:23 2025 | BOINC Central | Requesting new tasks for CPU
Lun 28 avr 01:04:24 2025 | BOINC Central | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
Lun 28 avr 01:04:24 2025 | BOINC Central | No tasks sent
Lun 28 avr 01:04:24 2025 | BOINC Central | Message du serveur: Docker not present
Lun 28 avr 01:04:24 2025 | BOINC Central | Project requested delay of 7 seconds

Georges

Michael E.

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Apr 27, 2025, 7:24:05 PMApr 27
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Never mind. It seems to be working now. I will try to resubmit the other reports.

The problem may have been caused when I changed my BOINC username.

David P. Anderson

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Apr 27, 2025, 7:50:27 PMApr 27
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Thanks.

There's an issue with Podman on MacOS:
the BOINC client (and apps) run under user accounts 'boinc_master' and
'boinc_project'.
It turns out that (on MacOS) Podman doesn't work from user accounts
other than the one from which it was installed.
So the BOINC client doesn't detect Podman.
We're trying to figure out a workaround.

-- David

Miguel Veiga

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Apr 30, 2025, 5:42:27 AMApr 30
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Having this issue with Boinc 8.2.1.

With all suspended and in boinc showing that everything is supposed, my GPUs are working ate 100% almost.
Sending attached some images

Captura de ecrã 2025-04-30 103826.png
Captura de ecrã 2025-04-30 103846.png

Michael E.

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Apr 30, 2025, 3:14:32 PMApr 30
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Hello all,

A clarification... My minor bug is that CPU time is always 0.00 in the web-based result. It is counting the CPU time while processing the work unit in the BOINC manager.
This seems to only apply to Docker work units. 

My previous minor bug list (not sure I can edit it):
The CPU time for all my BOINC Central tasks is listed as 0.00. Look at my computer and its BOINC Central work units at: https://boinc.berkeley.edu/central/results.php?hostid=32598 These are all Docker tasks. The 1.09 Docker works fine. But not the earlier 1.08 Docker tasks.

Alex Piskun

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Apr 30, 2025, 4:02:14 PMApr 30
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My previous minor bug list (not sure I can edit it):
Yes, the reports can be edited.
Alex

David P. Anderson

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Apr 30, 2025, 4:46:01 PMApr 30
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This looks like a problem with the NumberField applications.
Does it happen with the BOINC 8.0.2 client?
-- David
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