Extending Wi-Fi to our 1st floor neighbour?

[Mark Campbell]

Our downstairs neighbour Peatr is inquiring about extending our wifi into his space. There is no traditional (rogers, etc.) ISP that services the building and would require the use of a 5G.

I said, sure, let's do it at cost for him. How do we do this? 

He has some equipment that could integrate with our system. 

I suspect we would prefer to buy 2 more AP's of the same type that we already have mounted throughout our space on the 2nd floor and extend it through the floor of the unit with a ethernet cable and power-over-ethernet (like we do now).

Not sure who to send this to so I am sending it to discuss :) Thank you in advance!

-Mark

[Everett Bazzocchi]

U7 pros are $240 each plus a run of Ethernet, the whole thing would be most likely around $600 for 2 U7s and an Ethernet run.

Would we be charging him monthly fee for access?

Everett Bazzocchi

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[Colin Stanners]

I was looking to request running a cable through their space so that it can reach a security camera placement in the stairway near the front door, I could run an additional cable for an onsite switch/wifi AP at the same time. I may have spare wifi APs and in that case could install one. There is no reason to have 2 APs in a room that size unless expecting a 50+ Wi-Fi devices or major streaming.

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[Mark Campbell]

I would prefer to do this at-cost and not have to care about a recurring fee for a few reasons and most important among them is the simple fact that I / we don't want to be an ISP to the 1st floor tenant (whoever it is) and withhold access if there's non-payment. Talk about a good way to sour a relationship. As well, this would apply with having them become a member.. if they unbecome a member... how awkward is that? I don't even want to get into the legalities of reselling access to the internet that is donated from Les.. no... please, no, haha.

As well, Peatr is a great partner for Skullspace. He pulled through MAJORLY on Nuit Blanche on Sept 27 2025! The photos are amazing and the experience that people had within Peatr's space and ours was truly enhanced by his participation, which made a small profit for Skullspace mind you (about $500). He provided a legal space for us to extend the Nuit Blanche event and a one-of-a-kind experience of spray painting at the event, along with providing his own lighting, music, and vendor. There are some great pictures and video, see below. That kind of an experience that Peatr provided is worth several thousand dollars had we applied for art grants and paid for hourly rented space, for lighting, sound system, artist fees, material costs related to the exhibits/activities, and cleaning. IMO we have both benefited massively from the existing relationship of freely providing services to each other. Providing this service to him is the least that we can do, in my opinion.

Here is the photo and video album from our Nuit Blanche 2025 party featuring a cool time-lapse in Peatr's unit: https://photos.app.goo.gl/bZR38uQVqJfDEWy1A

He has already benefited us and I'm very eager to work with him in the extremely near future, particularly on Manitoba Arts Council grants.

It should be provided for-free/at-cost and with best-effort service like we have right now where the wonderful volunteers keep the wi-fi lights on, so-to-speak, and I think that they would appreciate not being caught in the middle of wi-fi disputes. 

Shout out to the great IT volunteers at Skullspace, thank you! 

I'm glad to hear that there is equipment ready, Colin. There is a wall that bisects the 1st floor, see this attached floor plan that I created for Nuit Blanche 2025 in the lower right corner where it says First Floor Plan. Would that affect needing 2 APs?

[Mark Jenkins]

I'm surprised to hear "no service from Rogers" point here. There is
visible CATV infrastructure at the back of our space: 75 ohm coax
cables with F connectors and a splitter. Is Rogers really so
incompetent that they're telling a potential customer off?

Two other points of skepticism:
1. Les.net is providing service to us for free. That's a gift to us,
it changes the terms of use ever so slightly when we extend it to
another party. It's not just a matter raw bits and bites at wholesale
prices that are impacted when you extend out to a new site but also
reputational risks, attribution risk etc.

2. We enjoy pretty good reliability, but when we go down we go down
hard. Worst case scenarios could be multiple days offline. Typically
this is for something on our end that requires a best-effort volunteer
effort to resolve, including roof access in some cases. We have to be
clear that "best effort" is our service level and nothing more. From a
service stand point, it's also one more party we have to inform when
doing disruptive upgrades which increases the volunteer burden.


Mark

[Edwin Amsler]

If we ask Les and/or Jonathan if it’s okay, I have no issue. I +1 MJ on that front. The shift from one organization to two changes our relationship to Les.net.

Other than the politics, mild concern for Peatr’s machines having him (un)officially on the Wifi. Curious penetration testers at any hour of the day is not something I’m excited to expose folks to.

Les.net already serves the building which solves my two issues.

Regards,

Edwin

> On Oct 15, 2025, at 8:21 AM, Mark Jenkins <ma...@parit.ca> wrote:
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> I'm surprised to hear "no service from Rogers" point here. There is