Meeting January 19, 2023

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Jeff Scheel

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Jan 12, 2023, 8:23:20 AM1/12/23
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Our next meeting will be Thursday, November 3, 2023 at the following time:
  • 3:00 PM UTC,  
  • 4:00 PM Central Europe time, 
  • 8:30 PM India Standard Time,
  • 11:00 PM China Standard Time
  • 10:00 AM Eastern U.S. Standard Time,  
  • 7:00 AM Pacific U.S. Standard Time
Here's the meeting link: https://www.google.com/calendar/event?eid=MnRoZWRxcW9vNjg2MXQxcHZlNnVla3Eza2lfMjAyMzAxMTlUMTUwMDAwWiB0ZWNoLm1lZXRpbmdzQHJpc2N2Lm9yZw&ctz=UTC

The agenda will be a continuation of the discussions started in the January 5 meeting:
  • Review of 2022
    • What did we do well?
    • What could we do better
  • Priorities for 2023
    • What do we want to accomplish?
Time permitting, we'll also cover program discussions and What's cool.  Feel free to add your updates for these topics in writing to our agenda document, Dev Board Group Minutes. Any additional topics, updates, or information can as always either be raised at the beginning of the meeting.
-Jeff

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Jeff Scheel (he/him/his)
Linux Foundation, RISC-V Technical Program Manager

Jeff Scheel

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Jan 12, 2023, 8:27:34 AM1/12/23
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Once again, I had a copy and paste error for the meeting date within the message text.  The meeting is, as the title correctly states, Thursday January 19, 2023.

(I guess I have found my New Year's Resolution: no more copy-paste errors in the DevBoards emails!)

Sorry for any confusion!!!
-Jeff

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Jeff Scheel (he/him/his)
Linux Foundation, RISC-V Technical Program Manager

Jeff Scheel

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Jan 20, 2023, 1:56:48 PM1/20/23
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Here are our meeting minutes from Thursday's meeting.

Attendees: Jeff, Thea, Rafael, Andreas Faerber


Focus Topics (continued from Jan 5 meeting):

  • Reflections on 2022

      • What did we do well?

        • Sharing of Ecosystem information and topics, e.g. Labs, What’s Cool, Dev boards

        • Rework of the work-flow, community (Google Groups), and website

        • Flexibility of program, specifically which boards/projects

      • What could we improve?

        • Continued focus/support of Linux distros e.g. Debian

        • Expand our participation from other OSs or OS environments

        • Finding a better way to promote “successes” with DevBoards

        • Finding a better way to promote ourselves

        • Increase the scope of our participant backgrounds/expertise – for example other distributions, board vendors, etc.

        • Outreach activities like SCC (Student Cluster Competition) at ISC/SC – participate in activities where RISC-V can be used, DevBoards can be promoted, and everyone wins!!!

        • Work more closely with Academic & Training Initiatives (Megan’s program; https://lists.riscv.org/g/sig-academia-training )

        • Measure our success (program metrics)

        • Add geographic-specific outreach program

    • What would we like to accomplish in 2023?

      • What new boards should we expect?

        • Laptop(s)

        • Unmatched replacement from SiFive (Horse Creek SOC)

        • Ventana board? (Veyron V1 SoC)

        • The Lichee Pi 4A has been announced with a "TH1520, 12nm, RISC-V 1.8G C910 x4+C906+E902" CPU. cf. https://sipeed.com/licheepi4a

        • Alibaba board? (C908 SOC)

        • Esperanto SOC?

        • Multi-SoC manycore platforms, clusters

        • Shakti SOC? (no SBC board yet)

      • What characteristics do we need/want in a board and for what use

        • Code builder (Server)

          • >= 16 GiB memory

          • 4+ cores, virtualization support, bitmanip, 57-bit addressing, vector, crypto scalar

          • M2/SATA Ports for storage

          • PCI-e

          • BMC

          • rack mountable

          • Good support with Linux Kernel (Mainline!) and Distros, 

          • limited/NDA’d documentation due to IP issues, thus less suitable for OS development

        • Basic general developer board (Raspberry Pi)

          • Core with  M/S/U Mode and MMU support, L1/L2 Cache, 64-bit desired

          • 2+ SMP Cores

          • 2 GiB RAM minimum

          • Network Socket (native NIC, not via USB bridge, PoE support)

          • USB 3.0 Ports

          • HDMI

          • M2 Port for SSD storage desired

          • Executable Flash for custom Bootloader (avoid requiring an SD Card)

          • JTAG Pins exposed

          • Comprehensive documentation 

        • General IoT development board

          • small, cheap, available in multiples, 

          • Core with  M/U Mode, RealTime capable, 32-bit is enough

          • WiFi, Bluetooth

          • JTAG Pins exposed

          • lots of I/O PINs, 

          • comprehensive documentation about Core and Peripherals 

        • Special Use Cases

          • Accelerator development board (Crypto, AI), FPGA

          • Automotive DevKit: CAN bus

          • Mobile phone DevKit: 64-bit SOC, …

          • “Bucket (suitcase-full) of SWAG boards”:  low-cost, already purchased, at events

      • What new programs, activities, might we engage in:

        • Student Cluster Competition (SCC) at ISC

        • Google Summer of Code

        • openSUSE HackWeek (Monday 30 January - Friday 03 February 2023)

        • others?


    Board Updates:

    • StarFive

      • Working with the Debian community on a rackable solution of VisionFive V2 boards for build servers

      • VisionFive V2 boards now available through commercial channels


    Program Updates:

    • None today


    What’s cool?:


    As always, please feel free to add comments to our Dev Boards Group Minutes document or respond to the email with corrections or updates.

    In our next meeting, we will return to more programs-focused content. Thanks for all who contributed to our discussions on reflections and planning.
    -Jeff

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    Jeff Scheel (he/him/his)
    Linux Foundation, RISC-V Technical Program Manager

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