WS without Chair / other stuff.

[Paulo Coimbra]

All,

 

We still have a considerable number of Working Sessions with no Chair allocated - the list is below and you can see that whilst the Chair is the only thing missing in some of them, in others there is information available on very few fields. The question is, until we have a Chair we don't have a main point of contact for asking for content to be updated.

 

I think that with some of these an effort of merging and consolidation might, perhaps, be worth it. I am sending below some suggestions for your consideration.

 

>>>>> In my view, the three below working sessions focus on strategic/governance matters and so I propose we merge them:

 

- WS 'Should OWASP hire a Chief Executive Officer (CEO)?' - OWASP Track;

- WS 'Professionalize OWASP' - OWASP Governance Track;

- OWASP Board/Committee Governance - OWASP Governance Track.

 

I also propose that we call the WS that results from the merging 'OWASP Governance' and put it under the OWASP Governance Track.

 

>>>>> We have three WS on the OWASP track that seem to focus on reaching outsiders:

'Less preaching to the choir, engage more with the outsiders’

'Developer Outreach'

'How can OWASP reach/talk/engage with auditors'.

 

I understand that these may have particular goals and intentions but perhaps we could think of a way to extend their scope so that the communication with the world outside OWASP could be taken into account?

 

>>>>>   With regard to the other ones, can anyone please step in?

 

 

It would be great if we could move rather quickly on this so that efforts can be put into the final push for attenddees to register and schedule.

 

We'll be waiting for your thoughts!

 

Thanks,

-Paulo

 

[Jeff Williams]

I think these are perfectly reasonable suggestions.  I'm not sure a working session absolutely needs a chair.  Or prrhaps one could be decided on the spot.  But these moves make very good sense anyway.  Thanks!

--Jeff

On Jan 31, 2011, at 4:56 PM, "Paulo Coimbra" <paulo....@owasp.org> wrote:

All,

 

We still have a considerable number of Working Sessions with no Chair allocated - the list is below and you can see that whilst the Chair is the only thing missing in some of them, in others there is information available on very few fields. The question is, until we have a Chair we don't have a main point of contact for asking for content to be updated.

 

I think that with some of these an effort of merging and consolidation might, perhaps, be worth it. I am sending below some suggestions for your consideration.

 

>>>>> In my view, the three below working sessions focus on strategic/governance matters and so I propose we merge them:

 

- WS 'Should OWASP hire a Chief Executive Officer (CEO)?' - OWASP Track;

- WS 'Professionalize OWASP' - OWASP Governance Track;

- OWASP Board/Committee Governance - OWASP Governance Track.

 

I also propose that we call the WS that results from the merging 'OWASP Governance' and put it under the OWASP Governance Track.

 

>>>>> We have three WS on the OWASP track that seem to focus on reaching outsiders:

'Less preaching to the choir, engage more with the outsiders’

'Developer Outreach'

'How can OWASP reach/talk/engage with auditors'.

 

I understand that these may have particular goals and intentions but perhaps we could think of a way to extend their scope so that the communication with the world outside OWASP could be taken into account?

 

>>>>>   With regard to the other ones, can anyone please step in?

 

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It would be great if we could move rather quickly on this so that efforts can be put into the final push for attenddees to register and schedule.

 

We'll be waiting for your thoughts!

 

Thanks,

-Paulo

 

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[Matthew Chalmers]

I don't see any reason not to combine those first three sessions--and there are already multiple chairs listed.

If it's really a big scheduling conflict I suppose the second three ("Less Preaching...," "Developer Outreach," and "Engage with Auditors") could be combined, but I think they have far less in common.

Perhaps Dinis can chime in on what he envisioned for "Less Preaching..." but I interpreted it as sending OWASPers to non-OWASP events to speak.While "Developer Outreach" and "Engage with Auditors" might involve some of that, these two sessions seem to be more focused, and I don't think the people who will attend "Developer" will be the same as those attending "Auditor." But then again, as above, if these sessions are combined it could work as long as the time isn't too restrictive. (Also, "Developer...," I believe, is already a combination of two other former sessions--so it might be a busy session?)

If you're implying you want volunteers to chair the chairless sessions, I think Jeff is right that someone will probably step up to the plate on-site. But I could probably manage these:

- OWASP Certification

- OWASP Around the World

- OWASP and PCI-DSS

- Creating an AppSec Career

--matt

[Mark Bristow]

I have to agree with Matt and don't think the first 3 should be merged.  I'm somewhat expecting the "OWASP Board/Committee Governance" WS to be a "can of worms" session (keeping it positive and productive is going to be a challenge for Tom, Jason and I) and I figure it alone will be tough to accomplish in just one hour.

The next three sessions are also somewhat differently focused (concurr Less Preaching, is a bit unclear).

Concur with Jeff that we may not need a formal chair for all sessions, or we can follow the standard OWASP model, and the guy nearest the dais when the session starts is it ;)

--
Mark Bristow
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[Sandra Paiva]

Hi all,

 

Since we have not reached a consensus on this matter, we will not merge the WS. Looking at the list below, I think we have to decide what to do mainly with the WS that, not having Chair (i.e., main point of contact) are also almost empty of information.

 

Matt, we will take up on your offer and add you as Chair to the working sessions you mention below. This means that for the OWASP Certification (Matthew Chalmers + Dinis Cruz as Chair) and OWASP Around the World (Matthew Chalmers as Chair) all the information is already there and the case is closed.

For the other two:

- OWASP and PCI-DSS - Objectives and Outcomes/Deliverables still missing;

- Creating an AppSec Career - Objectives and Outcomes/Deliverables still missing.

 

The remaining WS (see below) have little information - in the majority of cases nothing except for a description or the deliverables. Having this into account I think we must decide whether some of these wil be dropped and which ones will be updated (and by whom) to stand at the Summit.

 

 

I will be waiting for your thoughts and suggestions regarding these WS and respective update!

 

Many thanks, best regards,

Sandra

 

Sandra Paiva

OWASP Summit2011 Team