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Budida Sharath Kumar

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Jun 9, 2026, 4:20:27 AM (7 days ago) Jun 9
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 hi everyone 

I am using latest NVDA and Windows 11. When I try to copy and content from the Excel normal. The goal is to copy whatever in that Excel cell, but when I copy instead of copying it’s taking image of that cell. So when I try to pay somewhere, it’s not pasting as plain text pasting as image what might causing this and how can I resolve this? Can anyone guide in? 
thanks in advance 

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Ira Edward Marquette

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Jun 9, 2026, 8:42:18 AM (7 days ago) Jun 9
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I'm not really sure whether this is an NVDA question or a Thunderbird
question.

As I arrow through email subjects, NVDA announces "To protect your
privacy, ... has blocked remote ... in this message."

This is annoying, and I really don't care if my privacy is protected in
this way.

I've tried pressing "control" to shut up this useless chatter and then
follow with NVDA + up arrow to read just the title. This does not work.

Any suggestions on how to read the subjects without the useless chatter
or, at least, to shut it up and then read the subject line?

Gene Asner

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Jun 9, 2026, 8:51:20 AM (7 days ago) Jun 9
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Turn the reading pane off if you are hearing this while moving through
the message list. When you open the message, you will hear it, but you
don't have to let it continue. As soon as you hear enough words to know
what it is, issue the read to end command and the actual message will be
read and the protection announcement will be stopped.

Gene

jacob kruger

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Jun 9, 2026, 9:44:54 AM (7 days ago) Jun 9
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Sounds like you have preview message pane turned on?


Do you prefer it that way since what think is happening is that as each
message preview gets loaded, it's notifying you about embedded remote
content.


If that is the case, and you don't want it to stay turned on, then F8
key should toggle it on/off - view menu, layout, message pane.


Alternatively, not too sure if will help, but under tools|settings,
search for keyword remote, and toggle on "Allow remote content in
messages  check box" - that's probably what's triggering the warning,
but, for a reason since this is a standard/common snoop/spying strategy
to see who opens messages sent to e-mail addresses by spambots.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
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Gene Asner

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Jun 9, 2026, 10:06:10 AM (7 days ago) Jun 9
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Don't turn on remote content. It is off by default and it is an
important security protection.

Gene

jacob kruger

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Jun 9, 2026, 10:23:16 AM (7 days ago) Jun 9
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Gene - fully agree with you, and would never turn it on myself.


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Ira Edward Marquette

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Jun 9, 2026, 6:17:29 PM (6 days ago) Jun 9
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As I understand it, in the email functionality Of Thunderbird appears in
three spaces on the screen:

 the left space being folders, the middle space being email subjects,
and the far right space being messages themselves. it was recommended
that screen reader users turn off the right space, and I think that is
what you are calling the preview pane. nnew line I thought I had turned
it off; however, it seems to have been turned on. nnew paragraph when I
pressed the F-8 key, the message went away. thank you for all your
assistance. I am starting to appreciate Thunderbird, having decided to
dump outlook. the new outlook is simply not ready for prime time. N N

Sarah Alawami

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Jun 9, 2026, 6:40:30 PM (6 days ago) Jun 9
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so regarding the preview pain. I notice that it sometimes gets turned on
without any user intervention. If that is the case, either hit F8 or go 
to view, l for layout and up to preview pain. Uncheck that option and
hit alt to ensure you are out of the menu bar.

Gene Asner

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Jun 9, 2026, 7:26:35 PM (6 days ago) Jun 9
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There is a setting that is good to change because it is more secure.  It
isn't a part of the verbosity topic, but I'll include it so it is seen
in the thread for those who want to implement it.  Please don't respond
because it is not on topic.

If you set Thunderbird to simple HTML, messages will be displayed as
intended, but no code can run.  That is a good security setting.
Open the view menu, alt v.
Find and press enter on message body as.
Find and press enter on simple HTML.

Gene

Andrew Downie

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Jun 10, 2026, 3:17:26 AM (6 days ago) Jun 10
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Hi Budida
When checking with a very bland spreadsheet I cannot replicate the issue.  I arrow to the cell I want to copy and press control+c.  Note, no need to edit the cell with F2, but even that works.  When I press control+c in Excel, NVDA announces "Copied".  Does that happen for you?


Andrew


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Budida Sharath Kumar

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Jun 10, 2026, 5:38:33 AM (6 days ago) Jun 10
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Hi. 
Yess.   in Excel, it showing copy only, but when I try to paste that in the WhatsApp edit box, it pasting us image
thank you  in advance, any workout around this? 


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Sean Randall

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Jun 10, 2026, 6:00:53 AM (6 days ago) Jun 10
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I don’t think this is an NVDA issue as much as an excel one. Excel copies multiple formats of the same data to the clipboard and it’s generally the choice of the receiving (pasting) app that determines which one it uses, according to Microsoft.

This is why if you copy data from Excel you’ll get different results depending on your target application:

  •  If pasting into another office application, you might  get a table representing the cells.
  • If pasting into a notepad, you’ll get plain text.
  • If pasting into Whatsapp or the web for an LLM, you might get the image option.  It seems to vary by destination, not source.

Some options for you:

 

  1. Office supports paste special, ctrl+alt+v, which allows you to determine the source of your pasted content.
  2. There are a number of NVDA addons that may allow you to intercept the data en-route and force it into your format of choice, I haven’t looked in great detail but “clipboard enhancement”, “clipboard content editor” and “clip contents designer” sound potentially promising.
  3. The Ditto clipboard manager is a tool I regularly use and allows you to format-shift as data comes in. It’s also just an incredibly handy tool to look back through stuff you’ve previously copied. https://sabrogden.github.io/Ditto/

I Hope that’s provided some options. In sum, this is an Excel problem,  not an NVDA one.

 

Sean.

 

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Subject: Re: [NVDA] Excel cell content copy

 

Hi. 

Yess.   in Excel, it showing copy only, but when I try to paste that in the WhatsApp edit box, it pasting us image

thank you  in advance, any workout around this? 

Budida Sharath Kumar

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On Wed, Jun 10, 2026 at 12:47PM Andrew Downie <doveta...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Budida

When checking with a very bland spreadsheet I cannot replicate the issue.  I arrow to the cell I want to copy and press control+c.  Note, no need to edit the cell with F2, but even that works.  When I press control+c in Excel, NVDA announces "Copied".  Does that happen for you?

 

 

Andrew

 

 

On Tue, Jun 9, 2026 at 6:20PM 'Budida Sharath Kumar' via NVDA Screen Reader Discussion <nvda-...@nvaccess.org> wrote:

 hi everyone 

 

I am using latest NVDA and Windows 11. When I try to copy and content from the Excel normal. The goal is to copy whatever in that Excel cell, but when I copy instead of copying it’s taking image of that cell. So when I try to pay somewhere, it’s not pasting as plain text pasting as image what might causing this and how can I resolve this? Can anyone guide in? 

thanks in advance 

Budida Sharath Kumar

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Mister Kayne

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Jun 10, 2026, 11:18:31 AM (6 days ago) Jun 10
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I got it, I tried replying to your mail earlier but it did not get to you; Microsoft spam filters blocked my mail account. After copying the cell from Excel, go to your edit field of the chat in whatsapp. Right click i.e. context menu, use down arrow, and hit enter on paste as plain text. This was happening because when copying it is also taking the Format information of the copied cell.

 

Hope this helps you, have a good one!

 

And thank you for the solution provided to me on my issue with whatsapp edit field Focus, same issue I replied but Outlook blocked my mail account.  

 

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Subject: Re: [NVDA] Excel cell content copy

 

Hi. 

Yess.   in Excel, it showing copy only, but when I try to paste that in the WhatsApp edit box, it pasting us image

thank you  in advance, any workout around this? 

Budida Sharath Kumar

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BBA, Sathyabama Institute of Science and Technology, 2020-23

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On Wed, Jun 10, 2026 at 12:47PM Andrew Downie <doveta...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Budida

When checking with a very bland spreadsheet I cannot replicate the issue.  I arrow to the cell I want to copy and press control+c.  Note, no need to edit the cell with F2, but even that works.  When I press control+c in Excel, NVDA announces "Copied".  Does that happen for you?

 

 

Andrew

 

 

On Tue, Jun 9, 2026 at 6:20PM 'Budida Sharath Kumar' via NVDA Screen Reader Discussion <nvda-...@nvaccess.org> wrote:

 hi everyone 

 

I am using latest NVDA and Windows 11. When I try to copy and content from the Excel normal. The goal is to copy whatever in that Excel cell, but when I copy instead of copying it’s taking image of that cell. So when I try to pay somewhere, it’s not pasting as plain text pasting as image what might causing this and how can I resolve this? Can anyone guide in? 

thanks in advance 

Budida Sharath Kumar

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John O'Regan

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Hello All,

David Goldfield recently reposted the following from the NFB's Trainer
Talk mailing list. I thought Thunderbird users may find it useful.

Enjoy!

John

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From: Trainer-Talk <trainer-ta...@nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Raul
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Hello everyone,

I've been following the discussion regarding New Outlook vs. Classic
Outlook, and since I mentioned that I've been leaning heavily into
Thunderbird lately, I wanted to share some concrete data regarding the
"large space issue" that often scares people away from it.

I did a direct comparison on my machine. I have the exact same 5
Google email accounts configured via IMP in both Outlook Classic and
Thunderbird.

* Outlook Classic (.sot files): Taking up 16 GB of disk space.
* Thunderbird: Taking up just 2.1 GB of disk space.

The reason Thunderbird is running so lean and fast for me is due to a
few specific optimizations I made to keep the database small and make
the interface incredibly responsive with JAWS and NVDA. If anyone is
looking for an alternative to the Outlook transition madness, here is
the exact blueprint of what I did:

Okay, *blushing*. Confession time. I had Gemini help me write this
email and I am gasping at the Commander Data style above sentence, so
let me say this in my own words. The reason Thunderbird is running so
nice for me and taking up so little disk space is due to a few changes
I made with some caveats to keep in mind.

1. Unsubscribed from the "All Mail" Folder: Gmail’s IMP implementation
causes "All Mail" to act as a massive duplicate of your Inbox and Sent
items. Unsubscribing from it cuts the background sync and database
size in half. Of course, if you are always going into this folder,
then you won't want to unsubscribe from it. Note that by unsubscribing
from it, you will not break anything, and you can still access this
folder from the web interface, which is completely accessible.
2. Disabled Duplicate Sent/Archive Storage: In Copies and Folders, I
unchecked "Place a copy in" for Sent messages and disabled archiving.
Because Gmail natively saves a copy of sent items on the server,
letting Thunderbird do it too just creates sync lag and extra clutter.
Note that you should have also done this in your Outlook
configuration. I promise, it will work just fine.
3. Turned Off Local Message Caching: In Synchronization & Storage, I
disabled "Keep messages for this account on this computer."
Thunderbird now pulls message bodies on the fly, which completely
stops the app from grinding the CPU and filling the hard drive with
hundreds of thousands of files. In other words, each message is now
downloaded as I open it. Because I have a fast Internet connection,
this small lag is slightly noticeable but not a time waster for me and
it's an acceptable thing to deal with for a lot smaller space.
4. Personalized Notifications: In General Settings, I turned off the
Start Page. For new messages, I disabled the visual alert banners and
system tray icon changes, leaving only "Play a sound." This keeps the
system focus clean. Note that you can do similar in Outlook so it only
plays a sound without popping up an alert that your screen reader
reads, unless you want that of course.
5. Screen Reader Friendly Window Management: In General Settings, I
changed the option to open messages in a "New message window" instead
of a new tab. This is a huge win for screen reader navigation because
it allows you to instantly close a read email using the Escape key,
dropping you right back into your message list. If you open a message
in a new tab, you will need to press CTR+W to close the email, and
while I'm personally okay with that, I find that using the Escape key
is great for those users who are transitioning from Outlook to
Thunderbird.
6. Automated Maintenance: Under Disk Space, I set it to automatically
compact all folders if it will save more than 250 MB. (Remember,
deleting an email in Thunderbird only hides it until you compact the
folder to purge it).
7. Disabled Hardware Acceleration: Turning this off under General
Settings often removes hidden interface lag and focus issues when
working with screen readers. Some people say this is an old-school
setting to turn off, and it may or may not make a difference, but I do
it anyway.
8. Disabled Attachment Keywords: In Composition, I turned off the
attachment reminder feature so it stops scanning my text and prompting
me to attach a file based on words I typed. This doesn't change the
performance of Thunderbird, but it's something that I prefer greatly.

As far as add-ons go, the one I absolutely rely on the most is
Nostalgia++. It makes keyboard navigation, moving messages, and folder
management incredibly efficient. I also use a duplicate message
remover to keep things clean.

I don't necessarily hate Outlook, but with the uncertainty around the
"New Outlook" transition, Thunderbird has become an incredibly viable,
lightning-fast, and lightweight alternative once it's customized
properly.

* ... Gasp* There goes Commander Data again. Here is what I really
meant to say. I don't hate Outlook at all, but I also don't think it's
the end-all of email programs. Unless you absolutely need it for work,
there is no reason you can't look at other methods for email. I also
agree that the new Outlook is perfectly accessible and I think it's
important for people to start using it if they don't want to have a
cold turkey experience when and if Classic Outlook goes away. If you
don't want to learn the New Outlook, then consider webmail, like the
mail.com website, or consider Thunderbird, which has been around for
more than 20 years and is very stable. I also confess that I am very
much gmail biased.

While I think that the Outlook.com and the Yahoo.com email web
interfaces are accessible, I find that the Gmail.com web interface is
nicer to use. Oh, and if you switch to another email program or do
webmail, you may need to get used to pressing CTRL+Enter to send the
email. This is a huge change for those who are used to ALT+S in
Outlook, which will allow you to also press CTRL+Enter to send email.

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Christopher Mullins

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Jun 15, 2026, 5:06:45 AM (20 hours ago) Jun 15
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Hi
When you copy a cell in a spreadsheet I believe it copies it as a cell object and if you paste that object into an app that cannot handle a cell object, it will not work, for example you cannot paste directly from XL into Calculator.  To get around this I paste from XL into Notepad which displays the text content, then select the text from Notepad and copy it to the clipboard  then paste into Calculator.     

Cheers
    Chris

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