RE: ***SPAM*** Re: [NVDA] Any way of suppressing the words Status Bar?
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Steve Nutt
Sep 23, 2025, 5:33:49 AM (4 days ago) Sep 23
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I think you are missing the point a little.
When you press enter on an Email with NVDA, it reads the To and From fields again. Having heard that on the subject line, it's tedious. So yes, you can interrupt it, but that's more keypresses.
With Narrator and JAWS, it goes straight into the body of the message. This is what I meant by NVDA being less efficient. It is not slow, but just reads more than you need when you open a message.
All the best
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From: nvda-...@nvaccess.org <nvda-...@nvaccess.org> On Behalf Of Mujtaba Merchant
Sent: 18 September 2025 18:22
To: nvda-...@nvaccess.org
Subject: RE: ***SPAM*** Re: [NVDA] Any way of suppressing the words Status Bar?
Greetings,
I am not sure why the subject line of the mails coming to me are showing ***SPAM***
With respect to managing mails, I manage 3 mailboxes 2 at home and one at work. I don't feel the slowdown mentioned with NVDA and Outlook and at home, I am using Outlook 2019; not for long as I will be upgrading to Windows 11 and might also invest in the Microsoft 365 suite; which I have at work. 365 is a very heavy application compared to Outlook Classic or the one I am using. Having said that sometimes the application freezes, sometimes it is slow when trying to read the mails and scrolling the list of mails. This all really depends on your hardware too. Even with 16GB RAM and an intel 3 processor these kind of experiences happen. I am going to suggest some tips that might help improve the situation but honestly, even the sighted person has to first open the mail to read it. I think we are also doing the same thing but instead of reading it with our eyes we are listening to them. I can't think of any faster way of doing this.
Tips that may help solve the slowness issue:
1. Check for Outlook updates. ALT + F + D SHIFT TAB to Outlook update or something like that. Hit enter to start the update. This will take really long depending on the speed of your internet.
2. Close all running programs Open the Start menu, type Disk Cleanup, and hit enter, choose drive C: TAB till you get to OK and on the system prompts keep saying OK till the Disk Cleanup starts to clean your disk. Restart recommended after this step.
3. With all programs closed after the restart, open run dialogue box and type %temp%, CNTRL A to select all files in this folder and hit SHIFT delete. Some files are in use and will not be deleted, choose the skip option on the prompt. Restart.
HTH, have a good one!
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From: nvda-...@nvaccess.org <nvda-...@nvaccess.org> On Behalf Of Gene Asner
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2025 9:44 PM
To: nvda-...@nvaccess.org
Subject: Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [NVDA] Any way of suppressing the words Status Bar?
that is your individual experience. I haven't seen another complaint about this and why responsiveness may be slower in your case is something I won't speculate on, but you can't properly assume that your experience is general in such cases.
Gene
On 9/18/2025 10:52 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
> No way is it faster, in Outlook specifically, it is much slower, I can tell you.
> All the best
>
> Steve
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> From: nvda-...@nvaccess.org <nvda-...@nvaccess.org> On Behalf Of
> Gene Asner
> Sent: 18 September 2025 13:23
> To: nvda-...@nvaccess.org
> Subject: Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [NVDA] Any way of suppressing the words Status Bar?
>
> No, it isn't. You are assuming without trying it. I've done this for years and I'm not worried about a half or a quarter of a second difference. One hundred messages, taking half a second longer to cause them to read amounts to fifty seconds or less than one minute.
>
> And you don't know it actually takes longer. NVDA is faster in responding to commands or starting to speak in a lot of cases. If you look around, you will see this stated repeatedly by different users. It may be half a second faster so the time would balance out. Unless you have tried this for perhaps two or three days, you are assuming and speaking based on assumptions.
>
> Gene
>
>
> On 9/18/2025 2:57 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
>> That is so inefficient compared to just hitting enter with JAWS and getting the text of the Email completely read to you, without any extra verbiage.
>> If you read a hundred Emails a day, you don't want to be issuing extra keystrokes. Like I say, NVDA is very poor with Outlook Emails.
>> All the best
>>
>> Steve
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda-...@nvaccess.org <nvda-...@nvaccess.org> On Behalf Of
>> Gene Asner
>> Sent: 17 September 2025 17:13
>> To: nvda-...@nvaccess.org
>> Subject: ***SPAM*** Re: [NVDA] Any way of suppressing the words Status Bar?
>>
>> As to your objections of only reading the first line if it is text, NVDA never reads text documents using read to end when opened.
>>
>> I doubt you are even in the Virtual PC cursor, but you'd have to check that But in general, the Virtual PC cursor runs when you are both in an HTML document and the program you are using has been designed to support using the Virtual PC Cursor or browse mode, different names fore the same thing.
>>
>> As to repeating this or that line twice, when you open a message, get in the habit of issuing read to end after you open every message. It will soon become second nature. If you don't like using the default read to end, ste NVDA to use caps lock along with whatever else it offers as an NVDA key. It is very comfortable to use capslock down arrow for read to end.
>>
>> Using Thunderbird with NVDA and just opening a message causes a good deal of repetition before the message body is read. I issue read to end after I open every message, avoid the problem and it is so second nature, that I do it automatically and don't think about it in general.
>> While I don't use Outlook, issuing read to end should solve the problem. It has in other e-mil programs I've used in the past.
>>
>> You may have to wait a moment before doing so, you may have to experiment.
>>
>> Gene
>>
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When you press enter on an Email with NVDA, it reads the To and From fields again. Having heard that on the subject line, it's tedious. So yes, you can interrupt it, but that's more keypresses.
With Narrator and JAWS, it goes straight into the body of the message. This is what I meant by NVDA being less efficient. It is not slow, but just reads more than you need when you open a message.
All the best
Steve
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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-...@nvaccess.org <nvda-...@nvaccess.org> On Behalf Of Mujtaba Merchant
Sent: 18 September 2025 18:22
To: nvda-...@nvaccess.org
Subject: RE: ***SPAM*** Re: [NVDA] Any way of suppressing the words Status Bar?
Greetings,
I am not sure why the subject line of the mails coming to me are showing ***SPAM***
With respect to managing mails, I manage 3 mailboxes 2 at home and one at work. I don't feel the slowdown mentioned with NVDA and Outlook and at home, I am using Outlook 2019; not for long as I will be upgrading to Windows 11 and might also invest in the Microsoft 365 suite; which I have at work. 365 is a very heavy application compared to Outlook Classic or the one I am using. Having said that sometimes the application freezes, sometimes it is slow when trying to read the mails and scrolling the list of mails. This all really depends on your hardware too. Even with 16GB RAM and an intel 3 processor these kind of experiences happen. I am going to suggest some tips that might help improve the situation but honestly, even the sighted person has to first open the mail to read it. I think we are also doing the same thing but instead of reading it with our eyes we are listening to them. I can't think of any faster way of doing this.
Tips that may help solve the slowness issue:
1. Check for Outlook updates. ALT + F + D SHIFT TAB to Outlook update or something like that. Hit enter to start the update. This will take really long depending on the speed of your internet.
2. Close all running programs Open the Start menu, type Disk Cleanup, and hit enter, choose drive C: TAB till you get to OK and on the system prompts keep saying OK till the Disk Cleanup starts to clean your disk. Restart recommended after this step.
3. With all programs closed after the restart, open run dialogue box and type %temp%, CNTRL A to select all files in this folder and hit SHIFT delete. Some files are in use and will not be deleted, choose the skip option on the prompt. Restart.
HTH, have a good one!
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From: nvda-...@nvaccess.org <nvda-...@nvaccess.org> On Behalf Of Gene Asner
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2025 9:44 PM
To: nvda-...@nvaccess.org
Subject: Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [NVDA] Any way of suppressing the words Status Bar?
that is your individual experience. I haven't seen another complaint about this and why responsiveness may be slower in your case is something I won't speculate on, but you can't properly assume that your experience is general in such cases.
Gene
On 9/18/2025 10:52 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
> No way is it faster, in Outlook specifically, it is much slower, I can tell you.
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda-...@nvaccess.org <nvda-...@nvaccess.org> On Behalf Of
> Gene Asner
> Sent: 18 September 2025 13:23
> To: nvda-...@nvaccess.org
> Subject: Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [NVDA] Any way of suppressing the words Status Bar?
>
> No, it isn't. You are assuming without trying it. I've done this for years and I'm not worried about a half or a quarter of a second difference. One hundred messages, taking half a second longer to cause them to read amounts to fifty seconds or less than one minute.
>
> And you don't know it actually takes longer. NVDA is faster in responding to commands or starting to speak in a lot of cases. If you look around, you will see this stated repeatedly by different users. It may be half a second faster so the time would balance out. Unless you have tried this for perhaps two or three days, you are assuming and speaking based on assumptions.
>
> Gene
>
>
> On 9/18/2025 2:57 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
>> That is so inefficient compared to just hitting enter with JAWS and getting the text of the Email completely read to you, without any extra verbiage.
>> If you read a hundred Emails a day, you don't want to be issuing extra keystrokes. Like I say, NVDA is very poor with Outlook Emails.
>> All the best
>>
>> Steve
>>
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda-...@nvaccess.org <nvda-...@nvaccess.org> On Behalf Of
>> Gene Asner
>> Sent: 17 September 2025 17:13
>> To: nvda-...@nvaccess.org
>> Subject: ***SPAM*** Re: [NVDA] Any way of suppressing the words Status Bar?
>>
>> As to your objections of only reading the first line if it is text, NVDA never reads text documents using read to end when opened.
>>
>> I doubt you are even in the Virtual PC cursor, but you'd have to check that But in general, the Virtual PC cursor runs when you are both in an HTML document and the program you are using has been designed to support using the Virtual PC Cursor or browse mode, different names fore the same thing.
>>
>> As to repeating this or that line twice, when you open a message, get in the habit of issuing read to end after you open every message. It will soon become second nature. If you don't like using the default read to end, ste NVDA to use caps lock along with whatever else it offers as an NVDA key. It is very comfortable to use capslock down arrow for read to end.
>>
>> Using Thunderbird with NVDA and just opening a message causes a good deal of repetition before the message body is read. I issue read to end after I open every message, avoid the problem and it is so second nature, that I do it automatically and don't think about it in general.
>> While I don't use Outlook, issuing read to end should solve the problem. It has in other e-mil programs I've used in the past.
>>
>> You may have to wait a moment before doing so, you may have to experiment.
>>
>> Gene
>>
>> --
>> ***
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>> NV Access expects that all community members will read and abide by the rules set out in this document while participating in this group.
>> https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/blob/master/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md
>>
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Mujtaba Merchant
Sep 23, 2025, 5:48:55 AM (4 days ago) Sep 23
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Dear Steve,
Thanks for clarifying the behavior of NVDA when opening emails in Outlook. I understand now that it's reading the To and From fields again, which can be tedious, especially when you've already seen that information in the subject line or message list.
One thing I notice is that when I open an email in Outlook 2019, it jumps straight to the body of the message and doesn't read those details like it does when I'm navigating the message list with arrow keys. Sometimes, it might read the subject line, but that's about it.
You're right; it would be more efficient if NVDA could behave like JAWS and read the email body directly without the extra verbiage. Perhaps there's a setting or workaround that could improve this experience.
Looking forward to hearing more about potential solutions or workarounds from the community.
To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/a/nvaccess.org/d/msgid/nvda-users/076301dc2c6d%2426514530%2472f3cf90%24%40comproom.co.uk.
Thanks for clarifying the behavior of NVDA when opening emails in Outlook. I understand now that it's reading the To and From fields again, which can be tedious, especially when you've already seen that information in the subject line or message list.
One thing I notice is that when I open an email in Outlook 2019, it jumps straight to the body of the message and doesn't read those details like it does when I'm navigating the message list with arrow keys. Sometimes, it might read the subject line, but that's about it.
You're right; it would be more efficient if NVDA could behave like JAWS and read the email body directly without the extra verbiage. Perhaps there's a setting or workaround that could improve this experience.
Looking forward to hearing more about potential solutions or workarounds from the community.
Steve Nutt
Sep 23, 2025, 12:21:20 PM (4 days ago) Sep 23
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Not one that I know of.
I've tried various things like triggering a profile which does a say all when going into an Email, but the problem is that NVDA doesn't load text messages in particular into its virtual buffer, it reads them natively.
If you try this with Narrator, it will read just like JAWS, loading all messages into a virtual buffer, then immediately reading the body.
In JAWS in fact, you can turn auto reading off, and it will behave like NVDA is doing now.
To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/a/nvaccess.org/d/msgid/nvda-users/015d01dc2c6f%24442eebf0%24cc8cc3d0%24%40gmail.com.
I've tried various things like triggering a profile which does a say all when going into an Email, but the problem is that NVDA doesn't load text messages in particular into its virtual buffer, it reads them natively.
If you try this with Narrator, it will read just like JAWS, loading all messages into a virtual buffer, then immediately reading the body.
In JAWS in fact, you can turn auto reading off, and it will behave like NVDA is doing now.
Andrew Downie
Sep 23, 2025, 7:05:38 PM (4 days ago) Sep 23
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A workaround is to press up arrow when the message loads.
Andrew
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Steve Nutt
Sep 24, 2025, 11:47:54 AM (3 days ago) Sep 24
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Yep I know the work arounds, but it is just less efficient than not having to press any key at all, but just jump to the body.
All the best
Steve
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Gene Asner
Sep 24, 2025, 12:49:38 PM (3 days ago) Sep 24
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You don't know that. What if using read to end makes the screen-reader
actually start to speak half a second or a quarter second faster than if
you could just wait and not hear repetition? Since you don't know that,
claims of more efficiency are speculation or unsupported extrapolation.
I don't know if there is any way to test the claim since the
screen-reader doesn't speak content without repetition, but you might be
able to compare how long you wait after pressing enter and speech begins
in a message, even though repetition, with how long it takes to press
enter, then read to end, and have speech begin. That might give some
idea whether the claim might be valid.
Gene
On 9/24/2025 10:47 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
> Yep I know the work arounds, but it is just less efficient than not
> having to press any key at all, but just jump to the body.
>
> All the best
>
>
> Steve
>
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actually start to speak half a second or a quarter second faster than if
you could just wait and not hear repetition? Since you don't know that,
claims of more efficiency are speculation or unsupported extrapolation.
I don't know if there is any way to test the claim since the
screen-reader doesn't speak content without repetition, but you might be
able to compare how long you wait after pressing enter and speech begins
in a message, even though repetition, with how long it takes to press
enter, then read to end, and have speech begin. That might give some
idea whether the claim might be valid.
Gene
On 9/24/2025 10:47 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
> Yep I know the work arounds, but it is just less efficient than not
> having to press any key at all, but just jump to the body.
>
> All the best
>
>
> Steve
>
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> *Sent:* 24 September 2025 00:05
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