RE: ***SPAM*** Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [NVDA] Any way of suppressing the words Status Bar?

[Steve Nutt]

Yes I can, because I see it on several machines that are not mine.
Just try Outlook with Narrator and see how much faster it starts reading the messages. JAWS is more like that.
All the best

Steve

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Subject: ***SPAM*** Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [NVDA] Any way of suppressing the words Status Bar?

that is your individual experience. I haven't seen another complaint about this and why responsiveness may be slower in your case is something I won't speculate on, but you can't properly assume that your experience is general in such cases.

Gene

On 9/18/2025 10:52 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
> No way is it faster, in Outlook specifically, it is much slower, I can tell you.
> All the best
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> Steve
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> No, it isn't. You are assuming without trying it. I've done this for years and I'm not worried about a half or a quarter of a second difference. One hundred messages, taking half a second longer to cause them to read amounts to fifty seconds or less than one minute.
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> And you don't know it actually takes longer. NVDA is faster in responding to commands or starting to speak in a lot of cases. If you look around, you will see this stated repeatedly by different users. It may be half a second faster so the time would balance out. Unless you have tried this for perhaps two or three days, you are assuming and speaking based on assumptions.
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> Gene
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> On 9/18/2025 2:57 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
>> That is so inefficient compared to just hitting enter with JAWS and getting the text of the Email completely read to you, without any extra verbiage.
>> If you read a hundred Emails a day, you don't want to be issuing extra keystrokes. Like I say, NVDA is very poor with Outlook Emails.
>> All the best
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>> Steve
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>> As to your objections of only reading the first line if it is text, NVDA never reads text documents using read to end when opened.
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>> I doubt you are even in the Virtual PC cursor, but you'd have to check that But in general, the Virtual PC cursor runs when you are both in an HTML document and the program you are using has been designed to support using the Virtual PC Cursor or browse mode, different names fore the same thing.
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>> As to repeating this or that line twice, when you open a message, get in the habit of issuing read to end after you open every message. It will soon become second nature. If you don't like using the default read to end, ste NVDA to use caps lock along with whatever else it offers as an NVDA key. It is very comfortable to use capslock down arrow for read to end.
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>> Using Thunderbird with NVDA and just opening a message causes a good deal of repetition before the message body is read. I issue read to end after I open every message, avoid the problem and it is so second nature, that I do it automatically and don't think about it in general.
>> While I don't use Outlook, issuing read to end should solve the problem. It has in other e-mil programs I've used in the past.
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>> You may have to wait a moment before doing so, you may have to experiment.
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>> Gene
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[Gene Asner]

That doesn't prove your point.  If you are saying that NVDA
automatically reads messages more slowly when you use read to end than
these other screen-readers do automatically, that doesn't tell us
anything about the cause.  If NVDA were changed to automatically read
mail without using read to end in Outlook, it might be just as slow. 
You can not, if you are, assume that use of the read to end command is
what is slowing down the beginning of reading.  It may be something
about the way NVDA works in this context in general and have nothing to
do with issuing the command.

Also, we know that your experience is slow beginning of reading. We need
other, confirming messages.  At this point, we don't know if this is a
general problem, or a problem on your system.

Gene