Mock Test Math Q. 13

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Rajesh Patel

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Nov 19, 2020, 3:54:31 PM11/19/20
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I am unable to understan why it is not surjective
please explain
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Nov 20, 2020, 12:34:51 AM11/20/20
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Dear learner,

Kindly go through the mock test solution and let us know what exactly you are not able to understand. It will be good if you can post your working here.

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Rajesh Patel

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Nov 20, 2020, 12:46:54 AM11/20/20
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You said 3 does not have pre image
how ?
i am putting 0,1,2,3,4,5,6 
and getting value like 1,0,1,9,44....

the preimage thing i didn't get

Aditi Prasad

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Nov 20, 2020, 12:59:33 AM11/20/20
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 a function is said to be surjective or onto, only if whatever value you put in n, and anywhere you are getting back the same value on the f(n) side, i.e  for every element y in the codomain Y of f, there is at least one element x in the domain X of f.
you rightly said, "
i am putting 0,1,2,3,4,5,6 
and getting value like 1,0,1,9,44...."

and you can see however long you take it, you will not get 3 as output on f(n) side. The values you put such as "0,1,2,3,4,5..." is known as codomain and the output values is the range.
for a function to be surjective codomain must be equal to the range.
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Rajesh Patel

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Nov 20, 2020, 1:55:45 AM11/20/20
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Thank you so much for your reply,
but i am getting more confused here Sorry
can you please tell me what is the domain , Range and codomain here


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THank you so much f
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Malabika Guha Mustafi

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Nov 20, 2020, 2:18:44 AM11/20/20
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Let us define a function f:N→N such that f(0)=1,f(1)=0, and f(n)=(n−1)[f(n−1)+f(n−2)] for all n≥2. Define the following sets,
  • S1={n|f(n) is even, n≤6}
  • S2={n|f(n) is odd, n≤6}
  • T={n|f(n) is prime }

So, this says that the function "f" has a domain of "N" (the natural numbers), and a codomain of "N" also.

f(0)=1
f(1)=0
f(2)= 1[f(1) + f(0)]=1[0+1]= 1
so , it is not Injective.

f(3) =2[ f(2)+f(1)]=2
f(4)= 3[f(3) +f(2)]=9...so on
clearly, the range means actual output is not taking all natural numbers as it's codomain is defined. A function is called as surjective when codomain = range.
so, this function neither injective or subjective.
The function is a quadratic one so it can not  take all N values as range so it is never be surjective. 
Hope, it clears your doubt.

Aditi Prasad

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Nov 20, 2020, 2:30:05 AM11/20/20
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domain: what can go into a function; codomain: what may possibly come out of a function; range: what actually comes out of a function. 

Rajesh Patel

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Nov 20, 2020, 2:43:57 AM11/20/20
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Thanks for your response
Now it's clear 

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