graded assignment - week one, question - 7

[Rajaram Sahoo]

shouldn't it be mentioned that the words in the piles are exactly in the same order as in the sentences?                                                                                                                                               In the absence of this we can assume that the words are in a random order and here the answer given does not necessarily hold always. For example suppose there are 2 sentences with two verbs in each of them such that both the sentences ends with a verb. So, number of sentences with only one verb is zero.                                                                  But if the words in the pile aren't arranged in the exact manner as in the sentence then there is an order possible where the two verbs without fullstops come before the verbs with fullstop.                                                                                                                                              Here while the 1st verb with fullstop wont increse count of A but 2nd one will increse it to 1 which does not corrospond to the correct answer marked for the question i.e, 'number of sentences with only one verb in it'.     So, the answer should ideally be none of these.             Kindly look into it.

[Rajaram Sahoo]

Can anyone resolve this? 

Please look into it. If I wrong with my analysis also please let me know.

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020, 1:22 PM Rajaram Sahoo <rajaram...@gmail.com> wrote:

shouldn't it be mentioned that the words in the piles are exactly in the same order as in the sentences?                                                                                                                                               In the absence of this we can assume that the words are in a random order and here the answer given does not necessarily hold always. For example suppose there are 2 sentences with two verbs in each of them such that both the sentences ends with a verb. So, number of sentences with only one verb is zero.                                                                  But if the words in the pile aren't arranged in the exact manner as in the sentence then there is an order possible where the two verbs without fullstops come before the verbs with fullstop.                                                                                                                                              Here while the 1st verb with fullstop wont increse count of A but 2nd one will increse it to 1 which does not corrospond to the correct answer marked for the question i.e, 'number of sentences with only one verb in it'.     So, the answer should ideally be none of these.             Kindly look into it.

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[Anand Iyer]

It's reasonable to assume that the words are ordered by the serial number.  

If not, there's no concept of a sentence at all, and the question itself wouldn't be invalid.

[Vikram R]

If not explicitly mentioned - and considering this is IIT - not inconceivable that they could set up a tricky question such as this one. Ordered sets are a big part of computational thinking - so how can we simply assume that the set was ordered? 

[Rajaram Sahoo]

Can the course support team please clarify on this?

I still feel that if it's not explicitly mentioned that 'the words in the pile are ordered as in a sentence', the answer should be 'none of these' option. 

[Rajaram Sahoo]

Sir can u clarify please?

[Rajaram Sahoo]

Sir can u please look into it?

[Anand Iyer]

Rajaram, 

please remove me from this discussion when you send your next mail.

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[Computational Thinking Support 2]

It is nicely explained in the solution video uploaded in the portal. Please watch it. If you have doubt still you can write us again.

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Nijin

IITM Online Degree Programme

[Vikram R]

Hi Team

 

The Video solution does not even consider the Step 1 – there is no analysis based on what is written in the actual step – There is no mention of assuming that the cards are in serial order. The professor simply speaks about all other steps but overlooks step 1 completely. 

Step 1 sets the tone for the rest of the program – if the data is not serially ordered then the rest of the program makes no sense.

[Rajaram Sahoo]

Sir

I went through the video solution. The solution doesn't address the question I raised. 

I was going through a week 2 lecture too. In the 3rd lecture of week 2 at the 45th sec of the video also the professor states that the cards need to be in correct order to perform the required operation. 

The same should apply in this question too and there is no mention about the cards being in an ordered manner. 

So, we shouldn't be wrong in assuming that the cards are in a random manner, in which case the given solution does not hold true.

[Rajaram Sahoo]

Sir

Can we expect a clarification on this?

It's already been more than a week we have been waiting for it.

Regards

Rajaram