doubt in maths mock test

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Maebara keiichi

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Nov 11, 2020, 11:58:33 PM11/11/20
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in question 5, option 5 how is the function surjective?

Kaushal Patil

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Nov 12, 2020, 8:21:13 AM11/12/20
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Hi
In the option 5, we are getting output same as the input as f(n)=n. The given Domain of the function is R which will also become the Range of the function. So Range of the function is R. Thus Range and Co-Domain are the same.
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Maebara keiichi

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Nov 12, 2020, 8:39:26 AM11/12/20
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but a function is surjective if more than one value give the same output

Kaushal Patil

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Nov 12, 2020, 9:27:34 AM11/12/20
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Surjective means Onto which shows that range of the function is same as its Co Domain. 
What you are talking about is the many one function and it does not have a specific name.
Surjective means when Range of Function is same as its Co Domain and 
Injective means when every input has only one output and each output has unique input.   

akshay

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Nov 12, 2020, 9:32:42 AM11/12/20
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in simple words ..

1 - if a function is defined for every x € R then it is SURJECTIVE 

2 - if one x gives one y then injective ..


note - One to many is not defined ...





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Maebara keiichi

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Nov 12, 2020, 10:05:55 PM11/12/20
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exactly, so how come option 5 is surjective?
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subhajit POD

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Nov 13, 2020, 6:21:33 AM11/13/20
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No,  If a function give same output for two different inputs then the function is not injective, that has nothing to do with surjectivity.  If the range of the function is same as the codomain of the function then the function is surjective. 
Now try this for option 5. Hope it will clarify your doubt. 
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Subhajit

Maebara keiichi

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Nov 13, 2020, 9:41:26 AM11/13/20
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yeah i understood it now, i got the answer, thank you

Bala Suryanarayana Murthy Kotamarthy

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Nov 13, 2020, 1:42:57 PM11/13/20
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Same for mock Q 5-Can someone please help.
I understood op.5 is surjective as -1.domain=codomain- N.
-2.f(n)= n so every element in domain is mapping to an element in codomain
-so it's I can say injective, surjective & bijective.i.e., it's actually equivalence..
Now op.4..0 in codomain is left out as for no n,f(n) equals 0. So it should not be surjective.
Op.1, only 0,1 values in range so definitely not a surjection , no injection either.
Op.2( like 4 acc. to me) ..0 is left out.f(0)=1 and no n maps to 0.
Op 3. 2 is left out 
This was my approach.
Please let me know what I am missing and what was you guys' approach.
Thank you.

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