How to eliminate "dings" (bell sound) when in ISPF?

[Farley, Peter x23353]

Hi All,

 

This one is a request from one of my managers.  When he is on conference calls (especially when with clients on the line) and he is doing things in ISPF while on the call, there are various things that cause ISPF to issue a “ding” (bell sound) to the 3270 emulator and that sound interrupts the flow of the meeting when he can’t be on mute on the call.  He uses the PC’s sound hardware for the audio on the conference calls so if he can’t be muted for the meeting he can’t suppress the 3270 “dings” from being heard on the call.

 

Is there an ISPF setting to say “do not signal the bell sound”?

 

We use a very old version of the IBM Personal Communications 3270 emulator (V5.7 on my company machine, I think his is the same but I don’t know that for sure).  I can’t get the same “dings” on my machine as he gets on his (I don’t get any on my machine) so I don’t know where to look to shut it up on his machine.

 

Example of “dings” he gets:  After pressing Enter on an HRECALL line command for a migrated dataset in the ISPF 3.4 DSLIST screen.

 

Any advice or RTFM you can provide is appreciated.

 

Peter

 

 

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[VANDER WOUDE, PETER]

That’s usually a setting in the 3270 emulator application, I believe.  I don’t know pcomm, so I don’t know where to point you.

 

Regards,

Peter

 

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[Jeremy Nicoll]

On Mon, 2 Nov 2020, at 17:45, 'Farley, Peter x23353' via ISPF discussion list wrote:
>
> This one is a request from one of my managers. When he is on
> conference calls (especially when with clients on the line) and he is
> doing things in ISPF while on the call, there are various things that
> cause ISPF to issue a “ding” (bell sound) to the 3270 emulator and that
> sound interrupts the flow of the meeting when he can’t be on mute on
> the call. He uses the PC’s sound hardware for the audio on the
> conference calls so if he can’t be muted for the meeting he can’t
> suppress the 3270 “dings” from being heard on the call.

Windows normally has an internal sound mixer that takes sounds coming
from different applications and routes them to the hardware that produces
the sound. On my system eg I can use that mixer to set relative levels for
sound from the OS, sound from Firefox, sound from other things...

It may be possible to turn down/off sound from the emulator without
affecting the conference-call software.

In Win 8.1, right-clicking the "speaker" icon on the systray and clicking
"open volume mixer" gives me that control.

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[Karl S Huf]

In my experience definitely an emulator setting.  It’s been eons since I’ve used PCOMM but I’d suggest opening up the options panel (or equivalent) and just paging through each group.  Look for something like “Bell” or “Alarm”.  Until recently I ran Reflections and it was definitely in there, just pulled up the Options in Vista and it’s on General tab as “Alarm”, with a suboption to specify which sounds to use.

 

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[jims...@gmail.com]

In the current version of PCOMM some sound settings are Settings->Appearance->Display Setup->Sound.  I don't know if it's the same in such an old version of PCOMM.

Jim Turner

[Lizette Koehler]

My understanding is Sounds in ISPF are at the Laptop/PC level.  There are 3270 Stream commands to make sounds as well.

 

If you do not control the app on ISPF – that is someone else wrote it – then you need to get the presenter to disable sound on their PC when they are doing any work in a group.

 

I typically have my keyboard silent so I cannot hear the tapping of the keys.

 

Lizette

 

 

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[Marvin Knight]

As others have stated,  the PCOM setting is what you should check.   ISPF sets the write control character to set the alarm based on .ALARM = YES being set in a message or a DISPLAY request.  There is no way in ISPF to turn this on or OFF.   The only Sound setting in  PCOM I'm aware of is:
Edit -->Preferences-->Appearance-->Display Setup .... select Sound ..,

The sound does not seem to work for me either so I can't test,  but this might be some quirk in PCOM such as running remote or not.   There is an old bug in PCOM where running remote disabled sound functions.  
Just have your manager try turning off the alarm settings to see if it works.  You can use 7.2 to display a message such as ISPP300 to check it (this has .ALARM = YES set)


Marvin Knight

[Roger Bolan]

I have PCOMM V 13.0 and I see:

and the Help says: 

"Display Setup

• Sound
  • Mute controls the sounds generated by Personal Communications. The default is Off.
    • On

      Mutes all Personal Communications sounds.

    • Off

      Enables Personal Communications sounds.

"

But, even with Mute on, I still get beeps for certain things like when I connect and disconnect the session.  I did not find a way to turn all the sounds off. 

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[Marvin Knight]

I would expect the Alarm setting to be the applicable one

• Alarm is the bell sound that the host application program generates. Default is On.
  • On
    Generates a sound.
  • Off
    Does not generate a sound
    

ISPF would be the host application.   I can look at  the data stream to ensure the alarm flag is set however I hear no alarm even though I have it set in PCOM.  Displaying a message such as
ISPP300  'Panel ''&P5'' error     ' .ALARM=YES
will cause the WCC to be set on.  Using 7.2 to display it should be a valid test.     If Off in the above setting turns off the alarm set by ISPF that would accomplish what his manager was after.  Other PCOM sounds such as trying to type in the 3270 window when you have a preferences window displayed are not related to ISPF or the 3270 data stream.   Unfortunately I can't make PCOM "beep" when I set the WCC flag bit on to test it for Peter.



Marvin Knight





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[Bernie Rataj]

Hi Farley,

If all else fails, the emulator has a set of pcs*.wav files in the main Personal Communications directory you could play with.

pcshost.wav is the one used for the bell, you could make a backup of that and copy pcsclick.wav into it, the latter being much less intrusive.

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[Marvin Knight]

OK ..  I found why the alarm was not sounding with PCOM when ISPF set .ALARM=YES thanks to a discussion with the PCOM support expert.   It's due to sound hive not being created in Windows registry.
Running pcssound.exe /b corrected it.     I can now get a bell when displaying message ISPP301 from option 7.2.  (this message has .ALARM=YES)

I can confirm that setting either MUTE ON or ALARM Off from Display Setup-->Sound in PCOM will turn off the alarm.


Marvin Knight
ISPF Support

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