The "Trump" issue and potential resolution

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Secretary LNC

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Jan 6, 2024, 6:44:08 PM1/6/24
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Richard Winger asked that the LNC consider a resolution urging the Supreme Court to find for the rights of the people to vote for a candidate of their choice.  I have no love for the Republican Party which has denied us the ballot for years but the terrible decisions of CO and ME may open doors for us.  He has given me this language to use (needs to be put in resolution form) but before moving I'd like to see if there is appetite for this.

In 1964 the US Supreme Court said in Wesberry v Sanders, "No right is more precious in a free country than that of having a voice in the election of those who make the laws under which, as good citizens, we must live.  Other rights, even the most basic, are illusory if the right to vote is undermined."

In 1912 the Colorado Supreme Court said in Littlejohn ex rel Desch, "Every qualified elector shall have an equal right to cast a ballot for the person of his own selection, and that no act shall be done by any power, civil or military, to prevent it.  Such is the mandate and spirit of the Constitution, and it thereby vests in the elector a constitutional right of which he cannot lawfully be deprived by any governmental power."

The Libertarian National Committee calls on the U.S. Supreme Court to issue a ruling in Trump v Anderson that reinforces the right of any legal voter to vote for the candidate of his or her choice, a right that was absolute when the U.S. Constitution was written, because in the early years of the United States, there were no government ballots and every voter was free to create his or her own ballot.


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Adam Haman

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Jan 6, 2024, 6:48:19 PM1/6/24
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Perhaps there are pitfalls here I haven't considered, but I lean in favor of this. 

What CO and ME are doing is reprehensible.

Adam Haman
Region 1 Rep, Libertarian National Committee
Vice Chair, Libertarian Party of Nevada

Martin Cowen

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Jan 7, 2024, 11:08:58 AM1/7/24
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LP supports ballot access even for "bad" candidates. While I have no voting rights on this, I strongly support the LNC urging POTUS to overrule CO and ME.

Should be obvious, since I pushed, unsuccessfully, for us to hire a lawyer to file an amicus brief. I still support that, though we are probably out of time.

Martin
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Angela McArdle

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Jan 7, 2024, 12:51:42 PM1/7/24
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Yes, Im in favor of it.

Angela McArdle, Chair

Adrian F Malagon

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Jan 7, 2024, 1:28:07 PM1/7/24
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I applaud Mr. Winger for taking the initiative and I too support this.

Adrian F Malagon
At-Large Rep, Libertarian National Committee
Chair, Convention Oversight Committee
Chair, Libertarian Party of California

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Secretary LNC

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Jan 7, 2024, 3:03:08 PM1/7/24
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I like the language he gave us but I think we need to add in a bit more to capitalize on how the authoritarian ballot cnesorship affects us.

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Greg Hertzsch

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Jan 7, 2024, 4:15:11 PM1/7/24
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I am totally on board with this resolution.

Greg Hertzsch
LNC Region 3 Alternate

Andrew Watkins

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Jan 7, 2024, 4:37:07 PM1/7/24
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We must support Tru… I mean this resolution.

Andrew Watkins
Vice Chair | Libertarian National Committee

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Adam Haman

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Jan 7, 2024, 6:54:36 PM1/7/24
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I'm so stupid, for a second I thought your joke reference was to Trudeau. And that joke, I did not get.



Adam Haman
Region 1 Rep, Libertarian National Committee
Vice Chair, Libertarian Party of Nevada

Secretary LNC

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Jan 10, 2024, 4:37:30 PM1/10/24
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So how about:

Whereas, In 1964 the US Supreme Court said in Wesberry v Sanders, "No right is more precious in a free country than that of having a voice in the election of those who make the laws under which, as good citizens, we must live.  Other rights, even the most basic, are illusory if the right to vote is undermined.";

Whereas, In 1912 the Colorado Supreme Court said in Littlejohn ex rel Desch, "Every qualified elector shall have an equal right to cast a ballot for the person of his own selection, and that no act shall be done by any power, civil or military, to prevent it.  Such is the mandate and spirit of the Constitution, and it thereby vests in the elector a constitutional right of which he cannot lawfully be deprived by any governmental power.";

Be it hereby hereby resolved, That the Libertarian National Committee calls on the U.S. Supreme Court to issue a ruling in Trump v Anderson that reinforces the right of any legal voter to vote for the candidate of his or her choice, a right that was absolute when the U.S. Constitution was written, because in the early years of the United States, there were no government ballots and every voter was free to create his or her own ballot; and

Be it further resolved, that the Libertarian National Committee would note this is a lesson to be learned to the Republican Party who has consistently and corruptly kept or attempted to keep the Libertarian Party ballot off the ballot throughout the country for decades and that it engage in some severe internal self-reflection and consideration that NO ballot censorship is "fair" and that being denied a choice is "stealing" a choice from Americans and call upon it to stop this anti-American practice.
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Secretary LNC

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Jan 10, 2024, 4:38:25 PM1/10/24
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Typo in last sentence

Be it further resolved, that the Libertarian National Committee would note this is a lesson to be learned by the Republican Party who has consistently and corruptly kept or attempted to keep the Libertarian Party off the ballot throughout the country for decades and that it engage in some severe internal self-reflection and consideration that NO ballot censorship is "fair" and that being denied a choice is "stealing" a choice from Americans and call upon it to stop this anti-American practice.

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Adam Haman

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Jan 10, 2024, 5:17:12 PM1/10/24
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I like it a lot. 


Adam Haman
Region 1 Rep, Libertarian National Committee
Vice Chair, Libertarian Party of Nevada

Adrian F Malagon

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Jan 10, 2024, 5:22:45 PM1/10/24
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You would…Trumper.

Adrian F Malagon
At-Large Rep, Libertarian National Committee
Chair, Convention Oversight Committee
Chair, Libertarian Party of California


Adam Haman

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Jan 10, 2024, 5:35:19 PM1/10/24
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It’s spelled, “Thumper”. 


Adam Haman
Region 1 Rep, Libertarian National Committee
Vice Chair, Libertarian Party of Nevada

Andrew Watkins

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Jan 10, 2024, 9:37:44 PM1/10/24
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Wait I’m confused. Are we Trumpers or are we not Trumpers? I haven’t checked the mail today, so I’m behind on our marching orders.


Andrew Watkins
Vice Chair | Libertarian National Committee

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Bill Redpath

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Jan 11, 2024, 10:08:14 AM1/11/24
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I took the liberty of forwarding the proposed Trump resolution language to Richard Winger. I am forwarding his comment. Bill Redpath

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Date: Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 9:03 AM
Subject: Fw: [lnc-business] The "Trump" issue and potential resolution
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----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Richard Winger <richar...@yahoo.com>
To: William Redpath <wred...@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 at 04:34:24 PM CST
Subject: Re: [lnc-business] The "Trump" issue and potential resolution

It's not really true that the Republican Party has a history of doing that, except to a slight extent in Pennsylvania and Illinois. 

Richard Winger 415-922-9779 PO Box 470296, San Francisco Ca 94147


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Secretary LNC

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Jan 11, 2024, 10:10:09 AM1/11/24
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It happened in Montana and constantly in Texas.  It just happened in Colorado.

I find that statement amazing honestly.

This is the resolution I'm sponsoring.




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Secretary LNC

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Jan 11, 2024, 10:12:28 AM1/11/24
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The Democrats do it too.  We are not talking about them right now.

I refuse to have anything to do with any statement of condemnation of these acts without pointing out the Republican Party's history of wrongdoing to us.

I'm gobsmacked that's remotely controversial.


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