Test and Live data
Morgan Smith
Devin Ceartas
I feel like that might have some serious unintended bad consequences. What if I accidentally run some automated tests thinking it's in test mode and it's not?
On 23 Sep 2016, at 10:56, Morgan Smith wrote:
Are there any plans to allow copying of live Stripe customer and transaction data to test? As we refresh our test environments with production data, it obviously will break any account information dealing with customer id's, transactions etc...Thanks!
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Morgan Smith
I feel like that might have some serious unintended bad consequences. What if I accidentally run some automated tests thinking it's in test mode and it's not?
On 23 Sep 2016, at 10:56, Morgan Smith wrote:
--Are there any plans to allow copying of live Stripe customer and transaction data to test? As we refresh our test environments with production data, it obviously will break any account information dealing with customer id's, transactions etc...Thanks!
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As far as I am aware, there are no plans to implement this behavior any time soon. There are a couple of reasons for this.
First, production payment sources would not behave the same way in test-mode; they will likely just not be valid card entries in the test-environment and cannot mimic the desired behavior on an account that one is likely testing for anyway.
And second, the majority of our users who have requested this feature actually want the ids of their production environment to mirror those in their test environment. Having one merchant with the same ids in different modes is a bit (as Devin already stated) confusing.
Ultimately, it came down to a design decision by our Engineering team to keep these things separate. There are definitely arguments for either side, but I think the two points I made above encapsulate a lot of the team's concerns and might give you a bit of perspective on why it's not yet on the roadmap.
Is there something in particular you're trying to test? Perhaps we can help you devise a strategy to build out what you need. Feel free to reach out here or you can email us through our Support Form ( https://support.stripe.com/email ).
Cheers,
Andrew
I would only see this as optional. The option to explore and debug interactions between Stripe and our platform involving actual user behavior would be beneficial in some situations. I would imagine any testing done is using the test keys rather than the live keys, but it could also regenerate all the ids if need be and give us the option to export the information. We could then update the ids in our test environment and have an enormous amount of real world testing data.
On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Devin Ceartas <de...@nacredata.com> wrote:
I feel like that might have some serious unintended bad consequences. What if I accidentally run some automated tests thinking it's in test mode and it's not?
On 23 Sep 2016, at 10:56, Morgan Smith wrote:
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John Goebel
developers, business owners, and customers) should never be in any doubt
that live data is treated differently than test data. As an ethical (and
perhaps legal) issue I question that anyone has the right to copy live
data into a test system without the data owner's consent.
John Goebel
On 9/23/2016 9:25 AM, Morgan Smith wrote:
> I would only see this as optional. The option to explore and debug
> interactions between Stripe and our platform involving actual user
> behavior would be beneficial in some situations. I would imagine any
> testing done is using the test keys rather than the live keys, but it
> could also regenerate all the ids if need be and give us the option to
> export the information. We could then update the ids in our test
> environment and have an enormous amount of real world testing data.
>
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Devin Ceartas <de...@nacredata.com
> <mailto:de...@nacredata.com>> wrote:
>
> I feel like that might have some serious unintended bad
> consequences. What if I accidentally run some automated tests
> thinking it's in test mode and it's not?
>
> On 23 Sep 2016, at 10:56, Morgan Smith wrote:
>
> Are there any plans to allow copying of live Stripe customer
> and transaction data to test? As we refresh our test
> environments with production data, it obviously will break any
> account information dealing with customer id's, transactions
> etc...
>
> Thanks!
>
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