More and more websites not working with Seamonkey :-(

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Manuel Casal Lodeiro

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Mar 31, 2025, 4:31:15 AMMar 31
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Since some time now, I'm seeing that more and more websites don't work
when visiting them with Seamonkey. Some never did, or rendered pages
badly, with elements out of place or with images bigger than intended.
Others that worked so far, now show a blank page, like www.saferpay.com...

I guess this is because website creators are increasingly not worrying
about W3C standards anymore, which I supposed continue to be the guide
for SM, and which is confirmed by the long lists of coding errors I got
from browser's console when visiting all these pages.

I'd like to know your opinion on this. It's very frustrating having to
resort to use Firefox instead in most of these sites if I want o see or
do anything on them.

What can be the definite solution or fixing for this problem?

Thanks in advance, folks.
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Riccardo Mottola

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Mar 31, 2025, 6:22:43 AMMar 31
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Hi,

Manuel Casal Lodeiro wrote:
> Since some time now, I'm seeing that more and more websites don't work
> when visiting them with Seamonkey. Some never did, or rendered pages
> badly, with elements out of place or with images bigger than intended.
> Others that worked so far, now show a blank page, like
> www.saferpay.com...
>
> I guess this is because website creators are increasingly not worrying
> about W3C standards anymore, which I supposed continue to be the guide
> for SM, and which is confirmed by the long lists of coding errors I
> got from browser's console when visiting all these pages.
>
> I'd like to know your opinion on this. It's very frustrating having to
> resort to use Firefox instead in most of these sites if I want o see
> or do anything on them.
>
> What can be the definite solution or fixing for this problem?

I don't think there will be ever a "definite" solution. Most sites are
designed just for Chrome. Maybe they are also tested with Safari and
Firefox... that's all.
I also fear this trend will continue, given Firefox increased
irrelevance and Mozilla lack of roadmap and missed opportunities.

If there is a cross-site missing feature that can perhaps be backported
or specifically fixed, I don't know what happens.


In your case, the page loads for me and asks for cookie settings in my
seamonkey! A bit of random clicking shows no evident breakage either.
It redirects me to:
https://worldline.com/en-ch/home/main-navigation/solutions/merchants/solutions-and-services/e-commerce/saferpay-payment-solution

Riccardo

Manuel Casal Lodeiro

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Mar 31, 2025, 6:27:43 AMMar 31
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In 31/03/25 11:27, 'Riccardo Mottola' via
support-...@lists.mozilla.org dixit:

> I don't think there will be ever a "definite" solution. Most sites are
> designed just for Chrome. Maybe they are also tested with Safari and
> Firefox... that's all.

So, we're back in the 90s and the "designed just for Internet Explorer"
pandemic :-((((

> In your case, the page loads for me and asks for cookie settings in my
> seamonkey! A bit of random clicking shows no evident breakage either.
> It redirects me to:
> https://worldline.com/en-ch/home/main-navigation/solutions/merchants/solutions-and-services/e-commerce/saferpay-payment-solution

Sorry, it was not intended as a direct visit. It's a payment gateway, I
ended up there while making an online payment. But it was just an
example of an important site that's not supporting Seamonkey anymore.

Grazie, Riccardo.

Ant

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Mar 31, 2025, 10:48:50 AMMar 31
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Yep. Annoying. https://old.reddit.com/login/ and https://reddit.com/login/ doesn't work anymore due to lack of web forms. :(

Julia Bolton Holloway

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Mar 31, 2025, 11:13:27 AMMar 31
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I use Firefox for anything commercial but prefer Seamonkey. Itr's a nuisance that it doesn't access Archive.Org books.
But what I do find annoying is that in browse it no longer shows images of web pages I create and I have to toggle to Firefox to see if these are working. Please correct this error.
I recommend the Seamonky composer (the old Netscape) strongly for creating .html websites.
Julia


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