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Jan 19, 2025, 6:50:21 PMJan 19
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I am new to SM 2.53.20 on Rocky Linux although I used to run TB, version 59 or so, on RHEL 7.

Transitioning to Rocky Linux 9, I first looked at Thunderbird but did not like the new UI which i found very wasteful, inefficient and ugly. I then tried Evolution but the version available in the repository did not handle lost connections on a laptop well. Then came kmail but Akonadi seemed to make a mess of things.

Luckily SM still uses the old TB interface which I am really happy about. I should add that I have more than a dozen email accounts that I need to monitor at the same time, I have over 70 task lists/calendars and an address book with over 3000 entries.

Having tried out SM with a single email account and having found it works fine, I now need to get everything up and running.

I found the "old" Lightning add-on and installed that for the tasks and calendars but also need to connect with my address book which is on my own server and accessible with WebDav.

Now for my questions:
- It seems I need to find an add-on to connect with my address book. Which add-on should I install?
- Is there a way of adding all 70+ task lists/calendars, all residing on the same server, in one fell swoop? On TB I had to add one at a time which is /very/ tedious.
- I also need to clone the /exact/ setup for everything - /excluding/ the actual emails, to additional computers of mine. How should I do that while /not/ copying the actual emails? By the way, I am using MailDir email storage format.
- I know SM uses different naming convention for the individual emails in the MailDir structure. Is there anyway I can reconcile old emails in MailDir structure I have from neomutt and/or downloaded by isync with this new installation of SM?

Many questions and hoping to learn more!

Thank you!

Barry Edwin Gilmour

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Jan 20, 2025, 3:55:26 AMJan 20
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I found the "old" Lightning add-on and installed that for the tasks and calendars but also need to connect with my address book which is on my own server and accessible with WebDav.
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SeaMonkey is a complete integrated Internet Suite, a la Mozilla_Internet_Suite.All user stuff is in your hidden profile at /home/"you"/.mozilla/seamonkey/!!!!!.default/ ~ e.g. Add-ons are in ./extensions
SM already comes with its own preinstalled component apps ~ emailclient,Chat,Composer,Address_Book, and calendar (Lightning 6.2.20 in your case), so you should probably uninstall the lightning you overwrote it with.
SeaMonkey Browser window|Tools|Add-ons_Manager| Lightning (if it says 6.2.20 and doesn't have a "remove" button, then you are fine - it has the proper Lightning installed for that SM-2.53.20 edition).
If the version is something else, then use the remove button to remove it. 
You may have to manually remove it from your local profile, and/or reinstall SeaMonkey if your add-on has removed the inbuilt compatible Lightning 6.2.20.
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Now for my questions:
- It seems I need to find an add-on to connect with my address book. Which add-on should I install?
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Hopefully, None! The small envelope icon on the bottom left opens you email client. The other icons open similar preinstalled component apps., 
then click top toolbar menu item: Tools | Import | which opens a wizard which hopefully will assist you to import what you wish to. 
The data will be saved in your local home .mozilla/seamonkey/!!!.default/profile
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- Is there a way of adding all 70+ task lists/calendars, all residing on the same server, in one fell swoop? On TB I had to add one at a time which is /very/ tedious.
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Probably the same in SM email, as it is derived from TB. I've not used the wizard, so I'm only showing you what is there - I'm unsure how effective it is.I import my calendars one-at-a-time.
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- I also need to clone the /exact/ setup for everything - /excluding/ the actual emails, to additional computers of mine. How should I do that while /not/ copying the actual emails? By the way, I am using MailDir email storage format.
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The main SM group is at:  <news://news.eternal-september.org:119/alt.comp.software.seamonkey> and you will get a more authoritative and relevant response there.
SM no longer handles cross platform storage very well, so the easiest way to clone the local user's Home profile, is to copy the entire local desktop's /Home/user/.mozilla/seamonkey/!!!!!.default profile - and install it to the external PCs.
Lately, users have been having trouble with cross-platform storage sites - possibly due to the different folder devices and formats that each OS uses. More detailed info (more knowledgeable users) are at the acs.seamonkey newsgroup.
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- I know SM uses different naming convention for the individual emails in the MailDir structure. Is there anyway I can reconcile old emails in MailDir structure I have from neomutt and/or downloaded by isync with this new installation of SM?
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Definitely a question for the devs on <news://news.eternal-september.org:119/alt.comp.software.seamonkey>, but you may luck out with the import wizard. I'd use a backup in case it moves stuff instead of copies it.
Sorry I can't help further.

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Jan 22, 2025, 12:19:20 PMJan 22
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I see i was unclear in my questions and i will clarify below. Also, please don't email me personally - after all, this is a mailing list where people go to share information, the purpose of which is defeated by personal replies.

As for Lightning, I did install the most recent version of Lightning compatible with SM.

As for the address book I am not seeking to import it which would defeat the purpose of having my own WebDav-compatible server. My question was as to which WebDav plugin I should install in SM.

My question on in one fell swoop connecting with 70+ calendars/task lists residing on the WebDav-compatible server remains.

As for cloning, I was not talking about cross-platform.

Barry Edwin Gilmour

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Jan 22, 2025, 1:29:46 PMJan 22
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I didn't intentionally email you, Google added you as a CC, and most folks use fudged emails anyway. 
So, I'm guessing my removing the prefilled CC will prevent you from being troubled by my response.

Your question re: Lightning ~ "As for Lightning, I did install the most recent version of Lightning compatible with SM".

Lightning is no longer a SeaMonkey Add-on. It is specifically inbuilt prebuilt into each issue of SeaMonkey, specifically within that SeaMonkey version alone.
Lightning is internal to the SeaMonkey Suite. It's not an add-on anymore..

I see CardDAV-6.2 says it works with SM-2.53 versions, but it is dated 2018 June 5th.

You'll likely have to add your calendars one at a time.

There is no easy way to clone SeaMonkey - you'd have to copy your local profile without the mail directories etcetera, but email gets filed into your local profile anyway.
It can be done, but not trivially.

This is not the SeaMonkey newsgroup. HTH
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