Website Access... SM 2.53.15, Win 10 Pro

bo1953

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Mar 12, 2023, 3:48:15 AM3/12/23

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Hello all... Having challenges connecting to aioe, is this no longer available to SM users?

Yet My main challenge regardless, trying to connect to cruisecritic.com and cannot on this machine a lenovo t61 laptop, Win 10 pro and SM 2.53.15 I can connect on other machines.

This connectivity challenge started this afternoon and I had not updated My machine and have tried connecting in safe mode without success.

I have attached My Troubleshooting Log in case there is info which points to what has been done...

TIA - bo1953

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Nuno Silva

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Jun 25, 2023, 4:15:07 AM6/25/23

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On 2023-03-08, bo1953 wrote:

> Hello all... Having challenges connecting to aioe, is this no longer
> available to SM users?

AIOE has been down following hardware failure. For some alternatives to
access USENET groups, check:

https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Njsg/News_providers

There are certainly more, and I should try to extend that table with
more examples; I just changed it right now because it still listed AIOE.

> Yet My main challenge regardless, trying to connect to cruisecritic.com and
> cannot on this machine a lenovo t61 laptop, Win 10 pro and SM 2.53.15 I can
> connect on other machines.
>
> This connectivity challenge started this afternoon and I had not updated My
> machine and have tried connecting in safe mode without success.

This is probably not going to be much helpful this long after your
original message, but:

Something that states "challenge" before showing the site is most likely
a test purportedly to weed out bots and scripts, but which often shows
lack of ability (of those who implemented it) to test beyond two or
three web browsers and versions.

A repeat offender is Cloudflare, which sometimes not only makes
SeaMonkey go through the challenge, but also manages to require features
or behaviours that aren't present in most browsers.

This depends on the service that provides such "challenges", but also on
the settings the site owner chooses in that service. And quite often
it's not a change on your side that makes the challenge appear, but one
on *their* side.

(It's already bad that I have to enable JavaScript on these sites to
pass such challenges. It gets worse when the challenges are coded in a
way that makes them impossible to pass. What is this, a "freemium"
game?)

--
Nuno Silva

bo1953

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Jun 26, 2023, 3:58:03 PM6/26/23

to support-...@lists.mozilla.org, Nuno Silva

ns and et. al. - for me it is never too late unless I figured it out myself and I had not...

Thank you for your response.

My next question related to this is, does SM allow for javascript to be enabled and would that go a long ways to make for smooth browsing on other sites where I have challenges accessing???

Thank you for the info on the newsgroups, I will be subscribing shortly.

Will they have some of our previous posts there, as I Am trying to locate the instructions on how to update my Default User Agent program with current browsers iterations...

Did it a year or so ago and cannot remember how I went about it.

TIA - bo1953

Paul B. Gallagher

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Jun 26, 2023, 5:24:34 PM6/26/23

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bo1953 wrote:

> ns and et. al. - for me it is never too late unless I figured it out
> myself and I had not...
>
> Thank you for your response.
>
> My next question related to this is, does SM allow for javascript to be
> enabled and would that go a long ways to make for smooth browsing on
> other sites where I have challenges accessing???

You can toggle javascript on or off globally in the browser at

Edit | Preferences | Advanced | Scripts |
Enable JavaScript for
[x] Browser
...

The downside of enabling is that many sites that block access unless you
subscribe use javascript to do so. In those cases, you can disable and
reload to gain access. Alternatively, you can block scripts as a
site-specific policy here:

Tools | Data Manager

Enter the domain name (no http, https, or www) in the search window at
top left; if it appears, modify the entry, otherwise add it.

To modify, click the "Add" button at bottom, pull down "Select a type"
and choose "Run Scripts," and uncheck "Use default" in favor of "Block."

Hope that helps.

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