Falcon naming (was: Re: [pqc-forum] Preferred hash-based signature algorithm)

[Simon Hoerder]

On 12 Sep 2023, at 13:49, 'John Mattsson' via pqc-forum <pqc-...@list.nist.gov> wrote:



Hi,

 

We appreciate that NIST prioritized standardization of SLH-DSA and that it will be published at the same time as ML-KEM and ML-DSA. If I remember correctly, NIST was previously planning to standardize SLH-DSA later together with NL-DSA.

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Hi,

going off-topic for this thread but this is the first time I see Falcon being called „NL-DSA“. I believe calling it that would be a great mistake as pronunciation is too similar to „ML-DSA“. Even experts will get confused and everyone who is not an expert but has to sell or buy crypto products will be constantly confusing the two.

Best,

Simon

P.S. I forgot to add the pqc-forum list to the recipients. :facepalm: Now for everyone.

[Moody, Dustin (Fed)]

Simon,

We are planning to call Falcon FN-DSA.  We had considered NL, but we came to the same conclusion that it was too close to ML.  Apologies for any confusion, as I think I have publicly called it NL in the past at some point.  

Dustin

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[Bas Westerbaan]

May I ask what FN stands for?

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[Derek Atkins]

My guess would be it is short for "FalcoN" -- but that's just a non-educated guess.  :)

-derek

On Fri, 2023-09-15 at 16:46 +0200, 'Bas Westerbaan' via pqc-forum wrote:

May I ask what FN stands for?

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[Moody, Dustin (Fed)]

It stands for FFT over NTRU lattices.  (And yes it's close to Falcon as well)

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[Simon Hoerder]

Thanks, that is good to know.

Best,
Simon

On 15/09/2023 16:50, 'Moody, Dustin (Fed)' via pqc-forum wrote:
> It stands for FFT over NTRU lattices.  (And yes it's close to Falcon as
> well)

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> My guess would be it is short for "FalcoN" -- but that's just a
> non-educated guess.  :)
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> -derek
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> On Fri, 2023-09-15 at 16:46 +0200, 'Bas Westerbaan' via pqc-forum wrote:
>> May I ask what FN stands for?
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