--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pqc-forum" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pqc-forum+...@list.nist.gov.
To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/a/list.nist.gov/d/msgid/pqc-forum/20febba1-2c24-4da4-a46e-100b66cfdf47n%40list.nist.gov.
Hi All,
Cool stuff.
Not targeted at anyone in particular -- some thoughts and a totally tangential AI cryptanalysis research note.
First, I would encourage practitioners of AI-assisted cryptanalysis always to provide tangible evidence, such as machine-checkable proofs or successful attack demonstrations against scaled-down versions of targets (like Anthropic did). Anything that makes independent validation easier.
Just as AI helps significantly increase code quality & security if used right (more tests, rigorous formal models, etc.), it can also increase positive assurance of (surviving) crypto algorithms themselves: better proofs, research depth, etc. For example, I'd think that expectation in near future is that more complex security proofs and arguments are machine-checkable. Some additional groundwork may be needed for that with Lean and other tools, though.
ps. Here are some (as far as I know) new McEliece structural key recovery records, including a break of TII-252: https://github.com/mjosaarinen/tii-solved
These were solved with HOVER, a new AI-extended version of the Hemmert-Wiemers HOV attack (Crypto 2026).
--
--
Sincerely,
Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers)
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pqc-forum" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pqc-forum+...@list.nist.gov.
To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/a/list.nist.gov/d/msgid/pqc-forum/fe52296c-2366-484e-8ccb-b30ec32eaf56%40gmail.com.
Dear Colleagues,
This is a historic moment in cryptology: AI has beaten humans at cryptanalysis. We would like to share a few thoughts with the PQC community based on our own experience.
There are other dimension-reduction attacks on HAWK in literature. At Eurocrypt 2026, we proposed a dimension-halving algorithm for quaternion Ideal-SVP, which potentially implies that HAWK-n key recovery can be reduced to (cyclotomic) Ideal-SVP in dimension n:
https://eprint.iacr.org/2025/1448
Later, we proposed another guessing attack based on advanced number theory, under a few heuristic assumptions:
https://eprint.iacr.org/2026/1318
However, one of these heuristics was soon found to be invalid by colleagues with the assistance of AI.
Apparently, we were outpaced by AI in both cases. A couple of lessons we have learned are: (a) humans can make mistakes; and (b) humans are slower than AI. Beyond cryptanalysis itself, the use of AI to check mathematical proofs is becoming an increasingly serious issue.
One can even imagine a crisis in cryptography: in the worst-case scenario, all human-designed cryptosystems are broken by AI. Whether or not that happens, a new era—Post-AI Cryptography—has arrived.
Cong Ling