j9.6.0-beta18 available

[Eric Iverson]

j9.6.0-beta18 available

Release notes: https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/System/ReleaseNotes/J9.6

To upgrade from previous beta install:

start jconsole j9.6

   load'pacman'

   'install'jpkg'*'

   exit''

To install from scratch:
https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/System/Installation/J9.6

[Devon McCormick]

I'm getting some sort of "handshake" error - is it just me?

   'install' jpkg '*'
these steps can take several minutes
*** next step updates addons and base library
Updating server catalog...
Connection failed: ssl_client: TLS error from peer (alert code 40): handshake failure
wget: error getting response

Connection failed:

ssl_client: TLS error from peer (alert code 40): handshake failure
wget: error getting response

...

This is followed by a bunch of similar errors.

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Devon McCormick

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[LdBeth]

The update procedure works fine to me.

This is likely to be that your wget does not support the encryption
algorithm used by the J file server, or just your device's time
is not set correctly.

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[chris burke]

AFAIK, the server is working fine.

Are your J scripts up to date?

Are you running an antivirus, if so do you still get problems if it is
temporarily disabled?

Is your curl version up to date? In Jqt:

dir 'c:\windows\system32\curl.exe'

What is your Windows version? In Jqt:

wd'qosver'

[Devon McCormick]

The error message refers to "wget", not "curl". Could this be a configuration issue on my end?

[chris burke]

It is defaulting to wget because it cannot find curl on your machine.

What version of Windows are you running? Recent versions of Windows 10
and 11 should have curl.

wget should work, but is more likely to have problems. You can try
this in a terminal, in your J\tools\ftp directory. On my machine:

.\busybox.exe wget -O t1.txt http://www.jsoftware.com/download/testsock.txt
Connecting to www.jsoftware.com (52.23.108.158:80)
saving to 't1.txt'

[Devon McCormick]

I do have curl:

   dir 'C:\Windows\system32\curl.exe'
+--------+------------------+------+---+------+
|curl.exe|2024 6 11 20 15 48|665136|rwx|-----a|
+--------+------------------+------+---+------+

I retried this on J9.6 and it works better but I do get this error:

*** next step creates desktop J launch icons
~/Desktop folder does not exist for shortcuts
perhaps create ~/Desktop as link to your Desktop folder and rerun
|assertion failure: assert
|assert[0]

The error from J9.5 may have something to do with an incomplete installation there as I just noticed that JQt does not work for 9.5 because it says Qt is not installed.  However, it is installed for 9.6 so I'll just work from there.

[chris burke]

The code actually looks for curl in

(2!:5'SystemRoot'),'\System32\curl.exe'

It looks like your SystemRoot is not c:\windows.

[Eric Iverson]

The problem with ~/Desktop folder is a 'known' windows problem. Recent versions of windows seem to force users to have a 'unified' desktop on the cloud. So you don't have ~/Desktop and instead have ~/OneDrive/Desktop who knows where. But this seems to change whether you have a network connection to the cloud or not. And the cloud desktop is shared by devices (sounds like trouble to me). The easy fix for the windows install problem would be to try ~Desktop and failing that to try ~/OneDrive/Desktop. I am loath to do this as I have no way of testing and have no confidence it won't make things worse.

This is only relevant if you want the desktop icons and otherwise the install is complete.

There is lots about this on the web, but there is a lot of nonsense.

There are windows settings you can do to switch between multiple desktops, but I would fear getting into a real mess.

Let me know if you can figure out something at your end with a live system and let me know what you find.

[Devon McCormick]

Chris, Eric - thanks for the tips.  I seem to remember running into the ~/Desktop problem before but could not find an email about it.  I usually update the JQt icon by hand anyway, so it's not a problem.

My system root is "C:\WINDOWS" but whatever is wrong with my J9.5 install was probably peculiar to it; the 9.6 upgrade went fine except for the ~/Desktop issue.

Thanks for the quick responses.  I look forward to trying this version.

[Raul Miller]

The "windows 11 desktop path" thing seems to suffer from too many
changed decisions. For example, there's apparently a registry setting
to specify the location, but there's other mechanisms which are also
used to specify the location, so reading the registry isn't adequate
here.

That said, it's probably safe to create icons in both ~/Desktop and
~/OneDrive/Desktop (if they both exist).

And, that said, I don't use those icons and delete them shortly after
they're created (and, generally speaking, I prefer to think of Desktop
as being a sometimes messy temporary scratch pad).

FYI,

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Raul

On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 5:15 PM Eric Iverson <eric.b....@gmail.com> wrote:
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[Devon McCormick]

I'll see how the upgrade works on my Windows 11 machine now....

[Devon McCormick]

I had the same two problems on Windows 11 but the first one ("handshake error") must be because I copied the J9.5 installation from my other machine, so everything's fine.

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Devon McCormick

Flâneur

[bill lam]

jandroid j9.6.0-beta18 available.

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