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Michael Wong

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Dec 14, 2018, 10:10:47 AM12/14/18
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Hi all, here is today's webex.  This week, we will mostly focus on continuing logistics and scope discussions. Are there any papers people would like to propose for Kona?


SG19 Machine Learning

Hosted by Michael Wong
11:00 am - 12:00 pm Friday, Dec 14 2018 (UTC-05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada)
Recurrence: Occurs every Friday effective 12/14/2018 until 3/1/2019 from 11:00 AM to 12:00 PM, (UTC-05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada)
Meeting Information
Meeting link:
https://codeplay.webex.com/codeplay/j.php?MTID=md49c62b8d7c6c3a0d9476ded6d5395fd
Meeting number:
959 666 828
Password:
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Agenda:

1. Opening and introductions

1.1 Roll call of participants


1.2 Adopt agenda


1.3 Approve minutes from previous meeting, and approve publishing  previously approved minutes to ISOCPP.org

1.4 Action items from previous meetings

2. Main issues (125 min)

2.1 General logistics

2 new SGs mailing lists for SG19 Machine Learning

https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/forum/#!forum/sg19

and SG20 Education

https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/forum/?fromgroups=#!forum/sg20

https://isocpp.org/std/forums

Any meeting rooms required for Kona?

EWG-I will meet Mon-Wed.
LEWG-I is penciled in for Mon-Thu, considering the outcome in San Diego.

SG12/WG23 will meet Wed-Fri - the last day being SG12-focused.


SG20 (education)  would like to meet on Thursday (all day)

Suggest SG14 Friday Morning or afternoon.

Who is coming?


2.2 Paper reviews




Next call: Jan 11


2.2.2 any other proposal for reviews?



2.3 Other Papers and proposals


2.5 Future F2F meetings:


2.6 future C++ Standard meetings:

https://isocpp.org/std/meetings-and-participation/upcoming-meetings
  • 2019-02-18 to 23: Kona, HI, USA; Standard C++ Foundation, NVIDIA, Plum Hall, Jens Maurer
  • 2019-07-15 to 20: Cologne, Germany; Nicolai Josuttis
  • 2019-11-04 to 09: Belfast, Northern Ireland; Archer Yates

3. Any other business 
Reflector
https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/forum/#!newtopic/sg19

Code and proposal Staging area

4. Review

4.1 Review and approve resolutions and issues [e.g., changes to SG's working draft]

4.2 Review action items (5 min)


5. Closing process


5.1 Establish next agenda 

Jan 11


5.2 Future meeting

Dec 14: this meeting
Jan 11:
Jan 21: Kona mailing deadline
Feb 8:
Feb 18: C++ Std meeting Kona

Michael Wong

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Dec 14, 2018, 12:02:17 PM12/14/18
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Meeting minutes.


On Friday, December 14, 2018 at 10:10:47 AM UTC-5, Michael Wong wrote:

Hi all, here is today's webex.  This week, we will mostly focus on continuing logistics and scope discussions. Are there any papers people would like to propose for Kona?


SG19 Machine Learning

Hosted by Michael Wong
11:00 am - 12:00 pm Friday, Dec 14 2018 (UTC-05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada)
Recurrence: Occurs every Friday effective 12/14/2018 until 3/1/2019 from 11:00 AM to 12:00 PM, (UTC-05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada)
Meeting Information
Meeting link:
https://codeplay.webex.com/codeplay/j.php?MTID=md49c62b8d7c6c3a0d9476ded6d5395fd
Meeting number:
959 666 828
Password:
hc2hp73f (42247733 from phones)
More ways to join
Join by phone
+44-203-478-5289 United Kingdom toll
+1 631 267 4890 USA/Canada toll
Access code: 959 666 828







Agenda:

1. Opening and introductions

1.1 Roll call of participants

David Lindelof, Romain Biessy, Sarthak Pati, John Lawson, Torvald Riegal, Ritwik Dubey, Vincent Reverdy, Michael Wong, Emad Barsoum, Matthieu Brucher, Peter Goldsborough,


1.2 Adopt agenda

Approve


1.3 Approve minutes from previous meeting, and approve publishing  previously approved minutes to ISOCPP.org

Approve.

1.4 Action items from previous meetings

2. Main issues (125 min)

2.1 General logistics

2 new SGs mailing lists for SG19 Machine Learning

https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/forum/#!forum/sg19

and SG20 Education

https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/forum/?fromgroups=#!forum/sg20

https://isocpp.org/std/forums

Any meeting rooms required for Kona?

EWG-I will meet Mon-Wed.
LEWG-I is penciled in for Mon-Thu, considering the outcome in San Diego.

SG12/WG23 will meet Wed-Fri - the last day being SG12-focused.


SG20 (education)  would like to meet on Thursday (all day) 

Suggest SG14 Friday Morning , SG19 afternoon.

Who is coming?

Vincent, Peter and Sebastien, Michael, 


2.2 Paper reviews

 Feedback to other papers :
Linear Algebra, SG14

Scope:
linear algebra in SG14 is fundamental
Peter: Graphing is needed as well, make interactive C++ useful., ecosystem changes
David: online travel agent , expedia,, performance algorithm,
Emad: MS deeplearning team, improve training framework and improve perforamnce, CNTK, pytorch, tensorflow, scalbility multiple backends, how you deploy it, prior in computer vision
John: Codeplay, neural network team
Matthieu: PI on python, hPC computing,
Ritwik: Ecegy, financial world, real time data
Romain: Codeplay, SYCL backend of tensorflow,
Sarthak:cancer imaging C++ more acessible
torvald: Redhat, platofrm enginering organizer
Vincent: French delegation, UUIC, Paris Obs, astrophysics, high performance data structures, to speed up trees and ML
Michael Wong: CP VP interested in ML for self-driving cars

grahiing library: SG13
graphing expression, trees DAG, 
MW: Swift GEP, Tensorflow
Emad: Julia is also going that way
PG: are there any main interfaces that is interested
VR: as an expression, tree

Quantization: float16 and bfloat16, int 8,
Generalized floating point format
Automatic differentiation is likely Sg19,

anyone working with Jupyter notebook interactive C++? Does not work in many cases

Interactive C++?

Do we need something like Boost graph library? Each framework write their own, some graphing library usually have more restrictions with data exchange between nodes is likely a sparse tensor,

is this so complex that everyone is doing their own? CNTK graph has cycles in it,

dynamic graphs and static graph for most other cases: 

Papers for Kona?
Feedback for LA for ML


missing inner product,
AI: Mattheiu to list initial requirements from ML, track what is added to ML and what we need to do on our own

the next LA meeting is Jan 2, 1-3 ET

Feedback for FP16
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