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Michael Wong

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Apr 10, 2019, 11:57:29 AM4/10/19
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SG19 Machine Learning 2 hours

Hosted by Michael Wong
opic: ISOCPP SG19 Machine Learning
Time: This is a recurring meeting Meet anytime

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Agenda:

1. Opening and introductions

1.1 Roll call of participants


1.2 Adopt agenda


1.3 Approve minutes from previous meeting, and approve publishing  previously approved minutes to ISOCPP.org

1.4 Action items from previous meetings

2. Main issues (125 min)

2.1 General logistics

2 new SGs mailing lists for SG19 Machine Learning

https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/forum/#!forum/sg19

and SG20 Education

https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/forum/?fromgroups=#!forum/sg20

https://isocpp.org/std/forums


2.2 Paper reviews


Any papers proposed for review at COLOGNE?

2.2.1: ML topics
ML and scientific programming. Richard Dosselman

Graph Design

2.2.2 SG14 Linear Algebra progress: Bob Steagall
Different layers of proposal

Apr 3 minutes? I couldn't find any.


2.2.3 any other proposal for reviews?





2.3 Other Papers and proposals


2.5 Future F2F meetings:


2.6 future C++ Standard meetings:

https://isocpp.org/std/meetings-and-participation/upcoming-meetings

  • 2019-07-15 to 20: Cologne, Germany; Nicolai Josuttis
  • 2019-11-04 to 09: Belfast, Northern Ireland; Archer Yates

3. Any other business 
Reflector
https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/forum/#!newtopic/sg19

Code and proposal Staging area

4. Review

4.1 Review and approve resolutions and issues [e.g., changes to SG's working draft]

4.2 Review action items (5 min)


5. Closing process


5.1 Establish next agenda 

May 9


5.2 Future meeting

April 11 1-3 ET: Graph design
May 9
Jun 13: June 17 Mailing deadline
Jul 11 - cancelled? C++ Standard Meeting Cologne
Aug 8
Sep 12
Oct 10
Nov 14 - cancelled due to DST change and switching to a new cycle.

Michael Wong

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Apr 11, 2019, 7:22:19 AM4/11/19
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Hi all, just a friendly reminder that this call is Thursday 1-3 ET. I will make sure that appears at the top next time.

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Michael Wong

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Apr 11, 2019, 2:24:41 PM4/11/19
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Minutes by Michael


On Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 7:22:19 AM UTC-4, Michael Wong wrote:
Hi all, just a friendly reminder that this call is Thursday 1-3 ET. I will make sure that appears at the top next time.

On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 11:57 AM Michael Wong <fragga...@gmail.com> wrote:

SG19 Machine Learning 2 hours

Hosted by Michael Wong
opic: ISOCPP SG19 Machine Learning
Time: This is a recurring meeting Meet anytime

Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://iso.zoom.us/j/405838761

Or iPhone one-tap :
    US: +14086380968,,405838761#  or +16468769923,,405838761#
Or Telephone:
    Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location):
        US: +1 408 638 0968  or +1 646 876 9923  or +1 669 900 6833  or 877 853 5247 (Toll Free) or 877 369 0926 (Toll Free)
    Meeting ID: 405 838 761
    International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/abhaIjFKLZ

Or Skype for Business (Lync):
    https://iso.zoom.us/skype/405838761


Agenda:

1. Opening and introductions

1.1 Roll call of participants

Michael Wong, Phil Ratzloff, David Gillies, Eugenio Bargiacchi, Frank Seide, Marco Foco, Richard Dosselmann, Steven Varga, Paul  Fultv, Matthew Galati, Sebastien Messmer, Dong Ping, Rob Simpson,Gerd Heber, Mark Rankilor, Sarthak Pati


1.2 Adopt agenda


Approve

1.3 Approve minutes from previous meeting, and approve publishing  previously approved minutes to ISOCPP.org

Approve

1.4 Action items from previous meetings

Michael to post Kona meeting minutes

2. Main issues (125 min)

2.1 General logistics

This is the new call slots
ML conferences
 NEurIPS Dec
CVPR Long beach CA, June
ICML long beach CA, June
ICCV/ECCV 


CPPCON Sept 15-20: SG19 meeting offical meeting
Meeting C++: Nov 14-16: unofficial meetup

ISO SG42  AI
Meeting this week in Dublin



2.2 Paper reviews


P1415R0 SG19 Machine Learning Layered List Michael Wong, Vincent Reverdy, Ritwik Dubey, Richard Dosselmann, Eugenio Bargiacchi 2019-01-21 2019-01
SG19
P1416R0 SG19 Linear Algebra for Data Science and Machine Learning Johann Mabille, Matthieu Brucher 2019-01-21 2019-01
SG19
 
P1449R0 Towards Tree and Graph Data Structures for C++ Vincent Reverdy 2019-01-21 2019-01
SG19

Any papers proposed for review at COLOGNE?

2.2.1: ML topics
ML and scientific programming. Richard Dosselman

 big data to AI
general  scientific programming

general library that encourages additional ML libraries, C focused,
experience with it in research at work
dont need everything, but may be just basic statistics, dont need fourier transform
that goes special math for ML:

challenge is a lot of factor, lot of properties, hard to know what to focus
BGL already have general concepts, except dynamic, but does do unidirectional,
but some concern about performance, but they have good abstractions, maybe need to modernize for C++20
compare BGL with Jgraph, also Graph500

are trees separate? maybe, but we should get graph figured out first
code examples asap
separation of data structures and algorithms

both dynamic and static graph
beyond STL? have directed edges and allocations,
need to have general relation between objects
edges, need something that is a member of more then one container, bu concern about the number of allocations
STL list already has functions like splice, to move nodes between different lists, but graphs can move nodes around in general with more control

 
 

Graph Design

2.2.2 SG14 Linear Algebra progress: Bob Steagall
Different layers of proposal

Apr 3 minutes? I couldn't find any.


2.2.3 any other proposal for reviews?





2.3 Other Papers and proposals


2.5 Future F2F meetings:


2.6 future C++ Standard meetings:

https://isocpp.org/std/meetings-and-participation/upcoming-meetings

  • 2019-07-15 to 20: Cologne, Germany; Nicolai Josuttis
  • 2019-11-04 to 09: Belfast, Northern Ireland; Archer Yates
  • 2020-02-10 to 15: Prague, Czech Republicprague.png
  • 2020-06-01 to 06: Bulgaria
  • 2020-11: (New York, tentative)
  • 2021-02-22 to 27: Kona, HI, USA
 
might move to list server 



Code and proposal Staging area

4. Review

4.1 Review and approve resolutions and issues [e.g., changes to SG's working draft]

4.2 Review action items (5 min)

upload minutes from Kona
Richard to start the documents on graphs, and statistics
Marco on differentiable programming


5. Closing process


5.1 Establish next agenda 

May 9


5.2 Future meeting

April 11 1-3 ET: Graph design
May 9 review Kona comments, review GG docs for graphs and Statisctics, Marco to talk differentiable programming
Jun 13: June 17 Mailing deadline
Jul 11 - cancelled? C++ Standard Meeting Cologne
Aug 8
Sep 12
Oct 10
Nov 14 - cancelled due to DST change and switching to a new cycle.
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