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Ryan Rosenthal

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Jun 17, 2020, 9:44:30 PM6/17/20
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Quick question for all, but especially the high schools. The FCC recommends that a school's internet access speed be 1MB per user. What are our schools actually achieving? 

Eric J. Paulsen

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Jun 17, 2020, 10:10:36 PM6/17/20
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At St. Matthew’s in Oconomowoc, we are blessed to have synchronous fiber internet at 100MB/s up and down. Speed tests routinely show speeds approaching that (in the 90ish mb/s). We will have over 200 students this fall. 
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Quick question for all, but especially the high schools. The FCC recommends that a school's internet access speed be 1MB per user. What are our schools actually achieving? 

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Mark Meyer

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Jun 17, 2020, 10:56:11 PM6/17/20
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We here at Immanuel in Greenville Wisconsin, just upped our speed to 1 gps (gigabit per sec).  I’ve tested it and we are about 960mps up and down.  Erate helps a great deal on the cost, over 50% off, if anyone isn’t using Erate, you really should be.

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Jason Schmidt

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Jun 17, 2020, 11:01:19 PM6/17/20
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We have 1Gbps up and down in-district. We are on the Badgernet network.

Justin Liepert

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Jun 17, 2020, 11:54:56 PM6/17/20
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We are also on 1 GB up/down. Looking at the graphs from our service provider, we rarely use more than 350-400 MB down up in a school of 310 students/staff. March usually has quite a higher than average pull, though! (Except this year.)

Mahnke, James

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Jun 18, 2020, 7:45:59 AM6/18/20
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Luther High in Onalaska is nearly identical to the WLA description.  1 GB up/down from BagerNet. 

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Perry Lund

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Jun 18, 2020, 8:11:29 AM6/18/20
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Evergreen Lutheran has 100 Mbps down / 10 Mpbs up on the local Rainer Connect. For that student population, that gives ELHS 1 Mbps student down. However, ELHS also has a secondary ISP in Optima at 20 Mbps symmetrical fiber line. 1.5 Mbps is split for voice, and the remaining bandwidth is used for other Internet traffic. The two ISP connections are configured for high availability and failover should one connection go down for any period of time. The Optima connection is scaleable should Evergreen need to increase bandwidth due to student population increases or higher bandwidth consumption needs.

I appreciate the fact that many state utilities are ramping up to 1 Gbps plus for customers. That is awesome to hear. I lived in Iowa and was blessed to have a community with fiber to all the homes where 1Gbps symmetrical fiber was <$70 a month. I do miss that speed at times.

Andrew Willems

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Jun 18, 2020, 10:13:14 AM6/18/20
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That recommendation is not very accurate. I believe I first saw it 8 years ago when online testing began to be delivered though MAP and ACE Aspire.

 In our Federated grade schools using cable access and here at LLHS with our fiber access, I have found that there is no problem going with 1/2 that access speed per student as very seldom do you reach that much bandwidth use in school...even with a studyhall of 50 all streaming YouTube videos (and yes, I tried it just for fun)!!!! Now, more and bigger is always better...but you should be fine with less.

On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 8:44 PM Ryan Rosenthal <ryan.d.r...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quick question for all, but especially the high schools. The FCC recommends that a school's internet access speed be 1MB per user. What are our schools actually achieving? 

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Jason Schmidt

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Jun 18, 2020, 10:24:41 AM6/18/20
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To piggy back on that, the circuit for our schools in the Omaha area served about 120,000 students, and the aggregate circuit consistently served 6Gbps, with peaks around 8.5 ver occasionally. Granted, there is a lot of local traffic shaping going on in that situation, and some of it was Internet 2 which meant that bandwidth went on a different route, but the application is the same - you probably don't need 1 MB per user all the time, but your bandwidth needs will only go up so if you're signing contracts my advice is to get as much as you can afford.


Kirk Schauland

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Jun 18, 2020, 10:49:20 AM6/18/20
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Emanuel, New London  has a fiber connection at 100 MB/sec. Our speed tests up and down both run right around 90 MB/sec. Spectrum installed it 2 years ago. We will be looking at renewing our contract within the next year.

Kirk

On Wed, Jun 17, 2020, 8:44 PM Ryan Rosenthal <ryan.d.r...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quick question for all, but especially the high schools. The FCC recommends that a school's internet access speed be 1MB per user. What are our schools actually achieving? 

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