Voting Period Begins: Ballot NS-005 "Clarifications to sections 1, 2 and a definition prior to NS-003 taking effect"

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Daniel Jeffery

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Oct 4, 2024, 3:31:40 PMOct 4
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Moving to voting on Ballot NS-005

Ballot NS-005 is proposed by Daniel Jeffery of Fastly/Certainly and endorsed by Miguel Sanchez of Google Trust Services and Antti Backman of Telia.

        Purpose of the Ballot

NS-005 is intended to address unintended, unclear or problematic expectations that were introduced or highlighted by the changes in NS-003. 

        Reasons for the Proposal

Changes made in NS-003 altered the application of certain aspects of the NSR, one reason being the move from use of the term Certificate Systems to CA Infrastructure. The reorganization also helped to clarify certain points that may have been less obvious previously. NS-005 has been discussed with the working group, in meetings and on github, to clarify points of confusion and over-specification of industry practices. This includes:

  • defining "Workstation" for the purposes of this document by privileges and capability
  • limiting scope to connections that must be unencrypted and that are within the CA's control
  • recognizing there may be a practical or technical need for shared accounts, but requiring attribution to an individual actor and the approved activity in such cases
  • requiring that workstations MUST be secured when inactive, consistent with the CA's risk assessment
  • bringing use of hardware tokens for general multi-factor authentication more in line with industry best practices
  • removing a limited set of requirements in favor of the NIST recommendations

       Relation to Ballot NS-003

Ballot NS-005 clarifies some of the language in NS-003 for reasons of practical implementation to help CAs meet the requirements of NS-003. It also extends the implementation timeline out to 12 March 2025 so there is some time to identify and create ballots for any other concerns that CAs may have with NS-003. Ideally, IPR review will complete in time that NS-005 can go into effect on or before 12 November 2024, the date when NS-003 is currently scheduled to fully take effect.

       Relation to Ballot NS-004

Ballot NS-005 does not modify any of the text modified by NS-004. Both should be able to be merged complimentarily.

--- Motion Begins ---

This ballot modifies the Network and Certificate System Security Requirements (NCSSRs), based on Version 2.0.

MODIFY the NCSSRs as specified in the following Redline: https://github.com/cabforum/netsec/compare/7707907628ccebe6818fb6793d1c8a3aa38cf70d...danjeffery:netsec:d28c26261826a60c32e430eedfcd36c5b23b0139

When approved, this Ballot takes effect on the IPR review completion date.

--- Motion Ends ---

Discussion Period (at least 7 days)

  • Start: 2024 Sept 27, 19:30 UTC
  • End: 2024: Oct 4, 19:30 UTC
Voting Period (7 days)
  • Start: 2024 Oct 4, 19:30 UTC
  • End: 2024 Oct 11, 19:30 UTC
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Stephen Davidson

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Oct 4, 2024, 4:57:00 PMOct 4
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Noting the ballot language below re NS-003’s November date.  The proposed language would undo (for a period) NS-003’s requirement to change from NetSec1.7 to 2.0 on Nov 12.


This section:

 

## Requirements

 

Prior to 2025-03-12, the CA SHALL adhere to these Requirements or Version 1.7 of the Network and Certificate System Security Requirements. Effective 2025-03-12, the CA SHALL adhere to these Requirements.


should probably say

 

## Requirements

 

Prior to 2025-Mar-12, the CA SHOULD implement this updated version of these Requirements. Effective 2025-Mar-12, the CA SHALL implement these Requirements.

 

Sorry for late feedback.

Stephen

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Daniel Jeffery

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Oct 4, 2024, 5:00:10 PMOct 4
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This is absolutely intentional and was changed during the voting period at the request of some to allow a little more time for any further adjustments that may be need to NS-003/NSR v2.0.

Thanks for reading closely enough to notice, Stephen!



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Stephen Davidson

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Oct 4, 2024, 5:05:18 PMOct 4
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Ah perfect – I see the redline on the wiki page addresses this well.

Thanks Daniel!

 

Regards, Stephen

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Daniel Jeffery

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Oct 4, 2024, 6:25:14 PMOct 4
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Fastly votes: YES

Dimitris Zacharopoulos

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HARICA votes "yes" to ballot NS-005.

DZ.

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Bruce Morton

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Entrust votes Yes to ballot NS-005.

 

 

Bruce.

 

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Mads Egil Henriksveen

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Buypass votes YES on ballot NS-005

 

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Mads

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Ben Wilson

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Mozilla votes "yes" on Ballot NS-005.

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Tom Zermeno

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SSL.com votes “YES” on ballot NS-005.

 

Best regards,

 

Tom

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Backman, Antti

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Telia votes ’Yes’ on Ballot NS-005

 

//Antti

 

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Jozef Nigut

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Disig votes Yes on ballot NS-005

 

Regards,

Jozef Nigut

 

 

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Moving to voting on Ballot NS-005

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Brittany Randall

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GoDaddy votes Yes on ballot NS-005

Best,

Brittany Randall

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Inigo Barreira

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Sectigo votes yes

 

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Google votes YES on Ballot NS-005.

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Silva, Marcelo

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Visa votes YES on Ballot NS-005.

 

Thanks,

Marcelo

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GlobalSign votes YES on Ballot NS-005.

 

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Clint Wilson

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Apple votes YES on NS-005.

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TrustAsia votes YES on Ballot NS-005.

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Amazon Trust Services votes yes.

 

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eMudhra Votes Yes on NS-005

 

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