[netsec] Voting Period Begins: Ballot NS-004 "Updating Section 4 - Vulnerability Management - of the NSRs"

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Miguel Sanchez

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Nov 4, 2024, 2:38:28 PM11/4/24
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We are starting the voting period for Ballot NS-004 again after the most recent discussion period (ref: https://groups.google.com/a/groups.cabforum.org/g/netsec/c/k4T0UfTRBDI/m/rLqQmek-AQAJ?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer). 


Ballot NS-004 is proposed by David Kluge of Google Trust Services and endorsed by Clint Wilson of Apple and Trevoli Ponds-White of Amazon.


Purpose of the Ballot


Section 4 of the Network and Certificate System Security Requirements (NCSSRs) requires CAs to perform a number of vulnerability management practices focusing on patching, vulnerability scans and penetration tests. This Ballot replaces Section 4 with a more comprehensive vulnerability management approach that is not limited to these practices.


Reasons for the Proposal


Vulnerability scans and penetration tests are useful controls but are insufficient if they are not embedded in a broader set of policies and procedures to address CA specific risks.


Also, the CA’s vulnerability management processes should not be limited to critical vulnerabilities. CAs should address all vulnerabilities within defined timelines which are proportionate to the risk they pose. These remediation timelines should be disclosed in the CA’s CPS. All systems in the CA’s inventory of Certificate Systems should be in scope of the CA’s vulnerability management processes. 


Similarly, CAs should define after which system changes they perform non-periodic penetration tests. This definition can vary from CA to CA. As a guideline, we assume that a penetration test is necessary if the change alters the data flow between certificate systems or if it introduces new service integrations.


Relation to Ballot NS-003


Ballot NS-004 includes minor revisions to clarify some of the system definitions of Ballot NS-003.


--- Motion Begins ---


This ballot modifies the Network and Certificate System Security Requirements (NCSSRs), based on Version 2.0.


MODIFY the NCSSRs as specified in the following Redline: https://github.com/cabforum/netsec/pull/34/files#diff-ed3f4facad5588c9445170bb7796257d35d52c6c38793bfeab126370b7022ec8


When approved, this Ballot takes effect on the IPR completion date.


--- Motion Ends ---


Discussion (7 days)


Start Time: October 16th, 2024 15:30 UTC

End Time: October 31rd, 2024 15:30 UTC


Vote for approval (7 days)


Start Time: Nov 4th, 2024 19:45 UTC

End Time: Nov 11th, 2024 19:45 UTC

Ponds-White, Trev

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Nov 4, 2024, 2:52:15 PM11/4/24
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Amazon Trust Services votes yes

 

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Bruce Morton

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Nov 4, 2024, 4:55:25 PM11/4/24
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Probably not a question in the voting period, but the introduction to the discussion period stated “Restarting the discussion period for Ballot NS-004. The only change from the previous version is to the effective date which now states: "The CA SHALL adhere to these Requirements on or before 2025-04-29".

 

I don’t see this in the ballot which states “Prior to 2025-03-12, the CA SHALL adhere to these Requirements or Version 1.7 of the Network and Certificate System Security Requirements. Effective 2025-03-12, the CA SHALL adhere to these Requirements.”

 

Am I reading this wrong or was there a reason this was not implemented?

 

 

Thanks, Bruce.

 

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We are starting the voting period for Ballot NS-004 again after the most recent discussion period (ref: https://groups.google.com/a/groups.cabforum.org/g/netsec/c/k4T0UfTRBDI/m/rLqQmek-AQAJ?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer). Ballot NS-004

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Miguel Sanchez

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Nov 4, 2024, 5:31:46 PM11/4/24
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Hi Bruce,

Thanks for the question. I believe the discussion you're referring to was the previous one that I initiated on October 16th that included the language you referenced. The most recent discussion period was initiated by Cade Cairns on October 24th and does not include the 2025-04-29 date but instead references the 2025-03-12 date in the Github redline as that is the date that was agreed upon by the broader NetSec Working Group. 

Let me know if you have any other questions. 

Thanks,

Miguel 

Bruce Morton

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Nov 5, 2024, 8:42:01 AM11/5/24
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Entrust votes Yes to ballot NC-004.

 

 

Bruce.

 

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We are starting the voting period for Ballot NS-004 again after the most recent discussion period (ref: https://groups.google.com/a/groups.cabforum.org/g/netsec/c/k4T0UfTRBDI/m/rLqQmek-AQAJ?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer). Ballot NS-004

We are starting the voting period for Ballot NS-004 again after the most recent discussion period (ref: https://groups.google.com/a/groups.cabforum.org/g/netsec/c/k4T0UfTRBDI/m/rLqQmek-AQAJ?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer). 

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Pedro FUENTES

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OISTE votes Yes to NS-004

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TWCA votes Yes on Ballot NS-004.

 

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Clint Wilson

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Apple votes YES on Ballot NS-004.

A Commit to Commit comparison identical (I believe) to the below redline is also available here: https://github.com/cabforum/netsec/compare/6bc30f7170d7d0adefe4bfdb85dd52455fe3fc96...cf7110068e9df71bcc939fc3c07c91b61348cab2


Daniel Jeffery

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Fastly votes YES on Ballot NS-004.



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Ben Wilson

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Mozilla votes "Yes" for Ballot NS-004.

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Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA)

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HARICA votes "yes" to ballot NS-004.

Please note that the effective date of 2024-03-15 pushes the WG to work fast in order to address issues and concerns we discussed at the last F2F, like the level of accounts to be described in the Trusted Roles (we discussed about changing "authorized access" to something like "privileged access"), and also the removal of "Security Support System" term from the "CA Infrastructure" definition.

Members should become more active, review the language introduced in NS-003 with the amendments of NS-005 and this ballot NS-004, and ensure there are no unexpected surprises.

Dimitris.
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Scott Rea

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eMudhra votes YES on NS-004

 

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GoDaddy votes YES on Ballot NS-004

 

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Steven

 

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Backman, Antti

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Hi,


Telia votes ’Yes’ on ballot NS-004.

 

//Antti

 

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Rollin.Yu

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TrustAsia votes YES on Ballot NS-004.

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Jozef Nigut

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Disig votes "Yes" for Ballot NS-004.

 

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Jozef

 

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VikingCloud votes Yes on NS-004.

 

Regards,

Andrea Holland

 

 

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Buypass votes YES on Ballot NS-004.

 

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