Enterprise Attestation in practice

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Raphael Moreira

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Mar 31, 2022, 9:20:23 AMMar 31
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Hello,

I'm searching for guidance about enterprise attestation and the way to implement it from a manufacturer point of view.
As far as I understand it, if the relying party requests an enterprise attestation and the authenticator supports it for that relying party, the authenticator may return an enterprise attestation that contains an identifier unique to the  authenticator .
It is unclear to me where the relying party finds this identifier.
Is it the AAGUID? I thought it could be based on FIDO White Paper Choosing FIDO Authenticators for Enterprise Use Cases (fidoalliance.org), but then we lose the model identifier.
Is it expected that there is an enterprise attestation certificate per  authenticator, with a unique identifier in the certificate?

Another question about RPID list built in the authenticator. In case of "vendor-facilitated enterprise attestation", the manufacturer burns the list in each authenticator. Would we stay compliant if the list is written by an authenticator management system? The use case would be the following:
  - manufacturer provides authenticators and the management system
  - the customer configures the management system so it personnalizes the authenticators with a certain RPID list
  - the customer personnalizes the authenticator with the management system: the RPID list and the unique identifier are written on the authenticator

Thank you for your consideration

kile

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Apr 13, 2022, 9:48:34 AMApr 13
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Hello,

I also have gotten questions below.

is it supposed to use per-authenticator aaguid for enterprise attestation and per-model aaguid for non-enterprise attestation ?

Raphael did you get the answer ? or anybody help ?

Thank you.

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Raphaël Moreira

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Apr 13, 2022, 9:56:43 AMApr 13
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Hello,

You are the first person to react on my post, so no, I have no answer for now, but I still hope!

Regards

Arshad Noor

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Apr 15, 2022, 12:41:15 PMApr 15
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Hi Raphael,

The whole point of enterprise attestation is to leave it sufficiently vague - yet flexible - to allow enterprises to choose whatever security policy/process they want when registering FIDO Authenticators for enterprise use-cases. This implies:

  1. That the enterprise can choose that a specific certificate chain be used for enterprise attestation, including that the enterprise dynamically generate the certificate chain at the registration time;
  2. That the enterprise may use its own PKI or specify very controlled requirements for the vendor's PKI that engenders trust in the registration and attestation;
  3. That the enterprise can supply a unique AAGUID as part of the identification & verification (I&V) process,which must be used by the Authenticator;
  4. Etc.

The FIDO attestation is primarily intended to provide an in-band mechanism for the RP to determine how much trust it can establish for a specific Authenticator based on extraneous data the attestation provides. The enterprise attestation is merely a vehicle to allow enterprises to choose their own extraneous data. The specific mechanics need to be worked out between the RP and the vendor prior to the FIDO deployment, and will almost certainly be unique for each enterprise.

This is not unlike a PKI. Anyone that has solid PKI and FIDO experience can provide all the necessary information and controls to make this work.

Hope this helps.

Arshad Noor
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Arshad Noor

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Apr 15, 2022, 12:46:15 PMApr 15
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Very likely. The whole point of enterprise attestation is that there is NO privacy - the enterprise needs to know precisely:

  • WHO is registering?
  • WHAT I&V process was used to validate the identity of the user?
  • WHAT Authenticator is being used to register?
  • HOW can that Authenticator be uniquely identified now and in the future?
  • WHAT guarantee does the Authenticator provide to assure the enterprise that they can trust all of the above?

The standard WebAuthn/FIDO protocols are for the masses; enterprise use of FIDO is no different from a PKI - just uses the FIDO protocols instead of TLS ClientAuth. Once you figure that out, everything else becomes simple.

Arshad Noor
StrongKey

On 4/13/22 6:48 AM, kile wrote:

Hello,

I also have gotten questions below.

is it supposed to use per-authenticator aaguid for enterprise attestation and per-model aaguid for non-enterprise attestation ?

Raphael did you get the answer ? or anybody help ?

Thank you.

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Kile

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Apr 16, 2022, 7:40:44 AMApr 16
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Thank you for your reply.
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