Re: station naming convention verification
Chad Trabant
I do not recall an official FDSN requirement regarding conformance with the International Registry @ ISC. In the 2007 WG I report the following statement is included and I believe is the general consensus of members:
"FDSN encourages each regional coordinator to register the stations to ISC"
Also note that the FDSN Source Identifier proposal has been accepted and is published here:
http://docs.fdsn.org/projects/source-identifiers/en/v1.0/
Within the accepted specification including this in the Station Code definition:
"Station code: Uniquely identifies a station within a network. Station codes may be registered with the International Registry of Seismograph Stations <http://www.isc.ac.uk/registries/>. Must be between 1 and 8 characters. Otherwise, these may be whatever the operator wishes."
regards,
Chad
> On Aug 10, 2021, at 10:01 AM, Katrin Hafner (via FDSN) <fdsn-wg2-d...@lists.fdsn.org> wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> This is a simple question (I hope) but I have seen different answers, so would like to verify.
>
> In the ISC seismic station registry, it looks like a seismic station name has to be unique (without its network code). However, in the FDSN definition it looks like the as long as the station name is unique within a network code it can be used. From, https://iris-edu.github.io/xseed-specification/docs/xFDSNSourceIdentifiers-DRAFT20190520.pdf <https://iris-edu.github.io/xseed-specification/docs/xFDSNSourceIdentifiers-DRAFT20190520.pdf>
> Network code: Uniquely identifies the owner and network operator responsible for the data. This
> identifier is assigned by the FDSN. Must be between 1 and 8 characters.
>
> Station code: Uniquely identifies a station within a network. Must be between 1 and 8 characters.
>
>
>
> My example is a new seismic station installed in Dusheti, Georgia (network code "GO"). Station name "DSHT". We would like to archive this at the IRIS DMC. However, in the ISC registry there is already a station name of "DSHT" http://www.isc.ac.uk/cgi-bin/stations?stacode=DSHT <http://www.isc.ac.uk/cgi-bin/stations?stacode=DSHT> located somewhere else (although apparently not active any more).
>
> Thanks for any clarification.
>
> --
>
> Katrin Hafner
>
> Incorporated Research Institutions for Seismology (IRIS)
> IRIS GSN Senior Program Manager
>
> Phone: 1-(509)899-5449
> e-mail: katrin...@iris.edu <mailto:katrin...@iris.edu>
> https://www.iris.edu/hq/programs/gsn <https://www.iris.edu/hq/programs/gsn>
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Katrin Hafner
This is a simple question (I hope) but I have seen different answers, so
would like to verify.
In the ISC seismic station registry, it looks like a seismic station
name has to be unique (without its network code). However, in the FDSN
definition it looks like the as long as the station name is unique
within a network code it can be used. From,
https://iris-edu.github.io/xseed-specification/docs/xFDSNSourceIdentifiers-DRAFT20190520.pdf
Network code: Uniquely identifies the owner and network operator
responsible for the data. This
identifier is assigned by the FDSN. Must be between 1 and 8 characters.
Station code: Uniquely identifies a station within a network. Must be
between 1 and 8 characters.
My example is a new seismic station installed in Dusheti, Georgia
(network code "GO"). Station name "DSHT". We would like to archive
this at the IRIS DMC. However, in the ISC registry there is already a
station name of "DSHT"
http://www.isc.ac.uk/cgi-bin/stations?stacode=DSHT located somewhere
else (although apparently not active any more).
Thanks for any clarification.
--
Katrin Hafner
Incorporated Research Institutions for Seismology (IRIS)
IRIS GSN Senior Program Manager
Phone: 1-(509)899-5449
e-mail: katrin...@iris.edu
https://www.iris.edu/hq/programs/gsn
Istvan Bondar
As far as I know, the ISC plans to adopt the FDSN station naming convention which is reflected in the new ISF2 format (yet to be introduced
at the ISC). At least that was the plan several years ago. BTW, what makes a station id unique in the FDSN convention is the entire fdsn code
(net.sta.chan.location) plus the on and offdates because the network codes are not unique either; the temporary network codes get often
recycled. You need to register your stations at the ISC if you wanted to contribute picks/events to the ISC.
I also cc-d Dmitry Storchak if he wanted to put in his sixpence.
Cheers,
Istvan
> On 2021. Aug 10., at 19:24, Chad Trabant (via FDSN) <fdsn-wg2-d...@lists.fdsn.org> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I do not recall an official FDSN requirement regarding conformance with the International Registry @ ISC. In the 2007 WG I report the following statement is included and I believe is the general consensus of members:
>
> "FDSN encourages each regional coordinator to register the stations to ISC"
>
> Also note that the FDSN Source Identifier proposal has been accepted and is published here:
>
> http://docs.fdsn.org/projects/source-identifiers/en/v1.0/ <http://docs.fdsn.org/projects/source-identifiers/en/v1.0/>
>
> Within the accepted specification including this in the Station Code definition:
>
> "Station code: Uniquely identifies a station within a network. Station codes may be registered with the International Registry of Seismograph Stations <http://www.isc.ac.uk/registries/>. Must be between 1 and 8 characters. Otherwise, these may be whatever the operator wishes."
>
> regards,
> Chad
>
>> On Aug 10, 2021, at 10:01 AM, Katrin Hafner (via FDSN) <fdsn-wg2-d...@lists.fdsn.org <mailto:fdsn-wg2-d...@lists.fdsn.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> This is a simple question (I hope) but I have seen different answers, so would like to verify.
>>
>> In the ISC seismic station registry, it looks like a seismic station name has to be unique (without its network code). However, in the FDSN definition it looks like the as long as the station name is unique within a network code it can be used. From, https://iris-edu.github.io/xseed-specification/docs/xFDSNSourceIdentifiers-DRAFT20190520.pdf <https://iris-edu.github.io/xseed-specification/docs/xFDSNSourceIdentifiers-DRAFT20190520.pdf>
>> Network code: Uniquely identifies the owner and network operator responsible for the data. This
>> identifier is assigned by the FDSN. Must be between 1 and 8 characters.
>>
>> Station code: Uniquely identifies a station within a network. Must be between 1 and 8 characters.
>>
>>
>>
>> My example is a new seismic station installed in Dusheti, Georgia (network code "GO"). Station name "DSHT". We would like to archive this at the IRIS DMC. However, in the ISC registry there is already a station name of "DSHT" http://www.isc.ac.uk/cgi-bin/stations?stacode=DSHT <http://www.isc.ac.uk/cgi-bin/stations?stacode=DSHT> located somewhere else (although apparently not active any more).
>>
>> Thanks for any clarification.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Katrin Hafner
>>
>> Incorporated Research Institutions for Seismology (IRIS)
>> IRIS GSN Senior Program Manager
>>
>> Phone: 1-(509)899-5449
>> e-mail: katrin...@iris.edu <mailto:katrin...@iris.edu>
>> https://www.iris.edu/hq/programs/gsn <https://www.iris.edu/hq/programs/gsn>
>> ----------------------
>> FDSN Working Group II
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Lucia Margheriti
It is very important to have the possibility of regostering stations at ISC with their station code!
Lucia Margheriti
Osservatorio Nazionale Terremoti, INGV
> Il giorno 11 ago 2021, alle ore 09:36, Istvan Bondar (via FDSN) <fdsn-wg2-d...@lists.fdsn.org> ha scritto:
>
> Dear All,
>
> As far as I know, the ISC plans to adopt the FDSN station naming convention which is reflected in the new ISF2 format (yet to be introduced
> at the ISC). At least that was the plan several years ago. BTW, what makes a station id unique in the FDSN convention is the entire fdsn code
> (net.sta.chan.location) plus the on and offdates because the network codes are not unique either; the temporary network codes get often
> recycled. You need to register your stations at the ISC if you wanted to contribute picks/events to the ISC.
> I also cc-d Dmitry Storchak if he wanted to put in his sixpence.
>
> Cheers,
> Istvan
>
>> On 2021. Aug 10., at 19:24, Chad Trabant (via FDSN) <fdsn-wg2-d...@lists.fdsn.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I do not recall an official FDSN requirement regarding conformance with the International Registry @ ISC. In the 2007 WG I report the following statement is included and I believe is the general consensus of members:
>>
>> "FDSN encourages each regional coordinator to register the stations to ISC"
>>
>> Also note that the FDSN Source Identifier proposal has been accepted and is published here:
>>
>> http://docs.fdsn.org/projects/source-identifiers/en/v1.0/
>>
>> Within the accepted specification including this in the Station Code definition:
>>
>> "Station code: Uniquely identifies a station within a network. Station codes may be registered with the International Registry of Seismograph Stations. Must be between 1 and 8 characters. Otherwise, these may be whatever the operator wishes."
>>
>> regards,
>> Chad
>>
>>> On Aug 10, 2021, at 10:01 AM, Katrin Hafner (via FDSN) <fdsn-wg2-d...@lists.fdsn.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> This is a simple question (I hope) but I have seen different answers, so would like to verify.
>>>
>>> In the ISC seismic station registry, it looks like a seismic station name has to be unique (without its network code). However, in the FDSN definition it looks like the as long as the station name is unique within a network code it can be used. From, https://iris-edu.github.io/xseed-specification/docs/xFDSNSourceIdentifiers-DRAFT20190520.pdf
>>>
>>> Network code: Uniquely identifies the owner and network operator responsible for the data. This
>>> identifier is assigned by the FDSN. Must be between 1 and 8 characters.
>>>
>>> Station code: Uniquely identifies a station within a network. Must be between 1 and 8 characters.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My example is a new seismic station installed in Dusheti, Georgia (network code "GO"). Station name "DSHT". We would like to archive this at the IRIS DMC. However, in the ISC registry there is already a station name of "DSHT" http://www.isc.ac.uk/cgi-bin/stations?stacode=DSHT located somewhere else (although apparently not active any more).
>>>
>>> Thanks for any clarification.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Katrin Hafner
>>>
>>> Incorporated Research Institutions for Seismology (IRIS)
>>> IRIS GSN Senior Program Manager
>>>
>>> Phone: 1-(509)899-5449
>>> e-mail: katrin...@iris.edu
>>> https://www.iris.edu/hq/programs/gsn
>>>
>>> ----------------------
>>> FDSN Working Group II
Christos Evangelidis
I think it is time to start associating station codes in the ISC registry
with network codes. Up to know ISC station registration does not require
any FDSN network code declaration in the web form. So it seems that FDSN
registers networks and ISC registers stations and these two registries are
not connected at all.
All the best,
Christos Evangelidis
Hellenic Broadband Seismic Network
EIDA@NOA
National Observatory of Athens
Στις Τετ, 11 Αυγ 2021, 5:18 μ.μ. ο χρήστης lucia.ma...@ingv.it (via
FDSN) <fdsn-wg2-d...@lists.fdsn.org> έγραψε:
> *"Station code*: Uniquely identifies a station within a network. Station
> codes may be registered with the International Registry of Seismograph
> Stations <http://www.isc.ac.uk/registries/>. Must be between 1 and 8
> e-mail: katrin.hafner@iris.eduhttps://www.iris.edu/hq/programs/gsn