ACTION REQUIRED: FDSN WG III proposal for small edit to the web service specification regarding fdsnws-station text output

Tim Ahern

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Feb 23, 2015, 10:04:13 PM2/23/15

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Dear FDSN WG members. (I believe this relates to both WGII and WGIII so I am sending it to both lists)

Please study this recommendation coming from our colleagues in France with a specific recommendation from Chad Trabant from IRIS that addresses this shortcoming.

Please respond if you agree or disagree with the proposed recommendation by March 13 and be sure to include Gale Cox who will tally the responses.

Cheers
Dr. Tim Ahern
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Chair of FDSN WG III on
Products, Tools and Services

Rick Benson

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Feb 24, 2015, 1:47:39 AM2/24/15

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Dear FDSN partners:
I approve of this administrative clarification and update to the template.
I appreciate that the site name is fully supported.

Thank you,
Rick Benson
IRIS Data Management Center

> On Feb 23, 2015, at 11:04 AM, Tim Ahern <t...@iris.washington.edu> wrote:
>
> Dear FDSN WG members. (I believe this relates to both WGII and WGIII so I am sending it to both lists)
>
> Please study this recommendation coming from our colleagues in France with a specific recommendation from Chad Trabant from IRIS that addresses this shortcoming.
>
> Please respond if you agree or disagree with the proposed recommendation by March 13 and be sure to include Gale Cox who will tally the responses.
>
> Cheers
> Dr. Tim Ahern

> t...@iris.washington.edu <mailto:t...@iris.washington.edu>

>
> Chair of FDSN WG III on
> Products, Tools and Services
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>> Date: February 13, 2015 at 4:42:36 PM PST

>> From: Chad Trabant <ch...@iris.washington.edu <mailto:ch...@iris.washington.edu>>
>> To: Tim Ahern <t...@iris.washington.edu <mailto:t...@iris.washington.edu>>

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Pete Davis

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Feb 24, 2015, 3:33:10 PM2/24/15

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Dear FDSN members,

UCSD supports this change. Thanks to all who worked on this issue.

Pete

Dr. Peter Davis
Executive Director, Project IDA
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Helle Pedersen

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Feb 24, 2015, 7:47:02 PM2/24/15

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Dear Tim, dear all,

thank you for following up swiftly on this issue.

RESIF supports the proposed change

Best

Helle Pedersen

Le 23/02/2015 20:04, Tim Ahern a écrit :
> Dear FDSN WG members. (I believe this relates to both WGII and WGIII
> so I am sending it to both lists)
>
> Please study this recommendation coming from our colleagues in France
> with a specific recommendation from Chad Trabant from IRIS that
> addresses this shortcoming.
>
> Please respond if you agree or disagree with the proposed

> recommendation by *March 13* and be sure to include Gale Cox who will

> tally the responses.
>
> Cheers
> Dr. Tim Ahern

> t...@iris.washington.edu <mailto:t...@iris.washington.edu>

>
> Chair of FDSN WG III on
> Products, Tools and Services
>
>
>
>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>

>> *Date: *February 13, 2015 at 4:42:36 PM PST
>> *From: *Chad Trabant <ch...@iris.washington.edu
>> <mailto:ch...@iris.washington.edu>>
>> *To: *Tim Ahern <t...@iris.washington.edu
>> <mailto:t...@iris.washington.edu>>
>> *Subject: **FDSN WG III proposal for small edit to the web service
>> specification regarding fdsnws-station text output*

>>
>>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> The Grenoble group has identified an inconsistency in the FDSN Web
>> Services specification. The issue is that there is a mismatch
>> between the "template" and example for station-level text output from
>> the fdsnws-station specification. Specifically the example contains
>> an extra field for "SiteName" that is not included in the template.
>> The original intention was to include the SiteName column as
>> illustrated by the example.
>>
>> To resolve this inconsistency and avoid future confusion I propose
>> the following:
>>
>> a) Modify the station-level text "template" on page 12 of the
>> specification to include a SiteName column matching the example on
>> page 13.
>>
>> b) Internally change the specification version from "1.1 to "1.1b"
>> and describe the modification in the Changes section of the
>> document. The file name and URL to the specification will not change.
>>
>> The IRIS service and services based on SeisComP, representing a
>> majority of FDSN WS implementations, include the SiteName column and
>> would not be effected by this change.
>>
>> Please forward to the Working Group as needed.
>>
>> Chad
>>
>>
>> Current station-level template:

>> FDSN-WS-Specifications-1.1

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Feb 24, 2015, 11:48:16 PM2/24/15

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Hello Tim,

GFZ appreciates the proposed change to the specification.
Fortunately, AFAICS, all (?) existing fdsnws-station services
produce the SiteName column already.

Regards
Joachim

Stephane Zuzlewski

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Feb 25, 2015, 2:38:08 AM2/25/15

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Dear FDSN members,

The NCEDC supports this recommendation.

Regards,
Stephane

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On 02/23/2015 11:04 AM, Tim Ahern wrote:
> Dear FDSN WG members. (I believe this relates to both WGII and WGIII
> so I am sending it to both lists)
>
> Please study this recommendation coming from our colleagues in France
> with a specific recommendation from Chad Trabant from IRIS that
> addresses this shortcoming.
>
> Please respond if you agree or disagree with the proposed

> recommendation by *March 13*and be sure to include Gale Cox who will

> tally the responses.
>
> Cheers
> Dr. Tim Ahern

> t...@iris.washington.edu <mailto:t...@iris.washington.edu>

>
> Chair of FDSN WG III on
> Products, Tools and Services
>
>
>
>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>

>> *Date: *February 13, 2015 at 4:42:36 PM PST
>> *From: *Chad Trabant <ch...@iris.washington.edu
>> <mailto:ch...@iris.washington.edu>>
>> *To: *Tim Ahern <t...@iris.washington.edu
>> <mailto:t...@iris.washington.edu>>

>> *Subject: **FDSN WG III proposal for small edit to the web service
>> specification regarding fdsnws-station text output*

>>
>>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> The Grenoble group has identified an inconsistency in the FDSN Web
>> Services specification. The issue is that there is a mismatch
>> between the "template" and example for station-level text output from
>> the fdsnws-station specification. Specifically the example contains
>> an extra field for "SiteName" that is not included in the template.
>> The original intention was to include the SiteName column as
>> illustrated by the example.
>>
>> To resolve this inconsistency and avoid future confusion I propose
>> the following:
>>
>> a) Modify the station-level text "template" on page 12 of the
>> specification to include a SiteName column matching the example on
>> page 13.
>>
>> b) Internally change the specification version from "1.1 to "1.1b"
>> and describe the modification in the Changes section of the
>> document. The file name and URL to the specification will not change.
>>
>> The IRIS service and services based on SeisComP, representing a
>> majority of FDSN WS implementations, include the SiteName column and
>> would not be effected by this change.
>>
>> Please forward to the Working Group as needed.
>>
>> Chad
>>
>>
>> Current station-level template:

>> FDSN-WS-Specifications-1.1

Mark Chadwick

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Feb 25, 2015, 9:28:30 AM2/25/15

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Dear Tim and colleagues,

GNS Science (New Zealand) agrees with the proposed changes.

Cheers
Mark Chadwick

GNS Science
New Zealand GeoNet
m.cha...@gns.cri.nz

[fdsn-wg3-products] ACTION REQUIRED: FDSN WG III proposal for small edit

to the web service specification regarding fdsnws-station text output

Tim Ahern
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Dear FDSN WG members,

the SED at ETHZ supports this proposal,

regards,

John

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On 23 Feb 2015, at 20:04, Tim Ahern <t...@iris.washington.edu<mailto:t...@iris.washington.edu>> wrote:

Dear FDSN WG members. (I believe this relates to both WGII and WGIII so I am sending it to both lists)

Please study this recommendation coming from our colleagues in France with a specific recommendation from Chad Trabant from IRIS that addresses this shortcoming.

Please respond if you agree or disagree with the proposed recommendation by March 13 and be sure to include Gale Cox who will tally the responses.

Cheers
Dr. Tim Ahern
t...@iris.washington.edu<mailto:t...@iris.washington.edu>

Chair of FDSN WG III on
Products, Tools and Services

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Date: February 13, 2015 at 4:42:36 PM PST

From: Chad Trabant <ch...@iris.washington.edu<mailto:ch...@iris.washington.edu>>
To: Tim Ahern <t...@iris.washington.edu<mailto:t...@iris.washington.edu>>

Subject: FDSN WG III proposal for small edit to the web service specification regarding fdsnws-station text output

Hi Tim,

The Grenoble group has identified an inconsistency in the FDSN Web Services specification. The issue is that there is a mismatch between the "template" and example for station-level text output from the fdsnws-station specification. Specifically the example contains an extra field for "SiteName" that is not included in the template. The original intention was to include the SiteName column as illustrated by the example.

To resolve this inconsistency and avoid future confusion I propose the following:

a) Modify the station-level text "template" on page 12 of the specification to include a SiteName column matching the example on page 13.

b) Internally change the specification version from "1.1 to "1.1b" and describe the modification in the Changes section of the document. The file name and URL to the specification will not change.

The IRIS service and services based on SeisComP, representing a majority of FDSN WS implementations, include the SiteName column and would not be effected by this change.

Please forward to the Working Group as needed.

Chad

Current station-level template:

level=station

Current station-level example:

#Network | Station | Latitude | Longitude | Elevation | SiteName | StartTime | EndTime
IU|ANMO|34.9459|-106.4572|1850.0|Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA|1989-08-29T00:00:00|1995-07-14T00:00:00
IU|ANMO|34.9459|-106.4572|1850.0|Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA|1995-07-14T00:00:00|2000-10-19T16:00:00
IU|ANMO|34.9502|-106.4602|1839.0|Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA|2000-10-19T16:00:00|2002-11-19T21:07:00

Proposed new station-level template:

level=station

Note new "SiteName" column.

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Hayek, Khalil

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Feb 28, 2015, 2:13:23 AM2/28/15

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Hello,

The CNDC supports this change.

This may be a good time to mention that we're working on a web service for the Canadian CNSN data, modeled on the FDSN service.
This is still in the early phases.

Regards,

Khalil Hayek

Leader, Infrastructure & Development Group, Canadian Hazards Information Service
Natural Resources Canada / Government of Canada
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Subject: [fdsn-wg2-data] ACTION REQUIRED: FDSN WG III proposal for small edit to the web service specification regarding fdsnws-station text output

Dear FDSN WG members. (I believe this relates to both WGII and WGIII so I am sending it to both lists)

Please study this recommendation coming from our colleagues in France with a specific recommendation from Chad Trabant from IRIS that addresses this shortcoming.

Please respond if you agree or disagree with the proposed recommendation by March 13 and be sure to include Gale Cox who will tally the responses.

Cheers
Dr. Tim Ahern
t...@iris.washington.edu<mailto:t...@iris.washington.edu>

Chair of FDSN WG III on
Products, Tools and Services

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Date: February 13, 2015 at 4:42:36 PM PST

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To: Tim Ahern <t...@iris.washington.edu<mailto:t...@iris.washington.edu>>

Johannes Schweitzer

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Feb 28, 2015, 3:18:49 AM2/28/15

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Hi,

All the proposed changes are fine with us.

Johannes

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Subject: [fdsn-wg3-products] ACTION REQUIRED: FDSN WG III proposal for small edit to the web service specification regarding fdsnws-station text output

Dear FDSN WG members. (I believe this relates to both WGII and WGIII so I am sending it to both lists)

Please study this recommendation coming from our colleagues in France with a specific recommendation from Chad Trabant from IRIS that addresses this shortcoming.

Please respond if you agree or disagree with the proposed recommendation by March 13 and be sure to include Gale Cox who will tally the responses.

Cheers
Dr. Tim Ahern
t...@iris.washington.edu<mailto:t...@iris.washington.edu>

Chair of FDSN WG III on
Products, Tools and Services

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Stammler, Klaus

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Dear all,

the BGR agrees to the proposed changes to the FDSN web services specifications.

Best regards
Klaus Stammler

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Dear FDSN WG members. (I believe this relates to both WGII and WGIII so I am sending it to both lists)

Please study this recommendation coming from our colleagues in France with a specific recommendation from Chad Trabant from IRIS that addresses this shortcoming.

Please respond if you agree or disagree with the proposed recommendation by March 13 and be sure to include Gale Cox who will tally the responses.

Cheers
Dr. Tim Ahern
t...@iris.washington.edu<mailto:t...@iris.washington.edu>

Chair of FDSN WG III on
Products, Tools and Services

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Date: February 13, 2015 at 4:42:36 PM PST

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To: Tim Ahern <t...@iris.washington.edu<mailto:t...@iris.washington.edu>>

Tim Ahern

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Hello members of FDSN working Groups II and III

I should have reported back to you earlier, but everyone that replied by the March 13, 2015 deadline approved this recommendation from RESIF. So consider it adopted and those needing to implement should move forward on it.

CHeers

Tim Ahern

Director of Data Services
IRIS

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>
> Dear FDSN WG members. (I believe this relates to both WGII and WGIII so I am sending it to both lists)
>
> Please study this recommendation coming from our colleagues in France with a specific recommendation from Chad Trabant from IRIS that addresses this shortcoming.
>
> Please respond if you agree or disagree with the proposed recommendation by March 13 and be sure to include Gale Cox who will tally the responses.
>
> Cheers
> Dr. Tim Ahern

> t...@iris.washington.edu <mailto:t...@iris.washington.edu>

>
> Chair of FDSN WG III on
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>
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>
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