RE: [RC] Gaited Arabians
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Subject: [RC] Gaited Arabians
From: Karen Page <kmpa...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, September 10, 2013 3:57 pm
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I would love to add any Arabs that gait to my list. I keep a record of who told me what, but need registered name if possible. There are definite patterns if you look at the pedigrees, but it's not just the Crabbet and Kellogg horses.--Karen
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:50 PM, <chi...@aol.com> wrote:
My 26 year old Arab used to gait when he got mad at me when I wouldn't let him trot. It wasn't just a fast walk, it was a true "gait"....the whole cadence of his footfalls changed, he became very light in his front end, his head would nod and his teeth would click in rhythm. He was also a dynamo going down hills...I remember him getting to the top of a steep muddy hill and kind of adjusting his feet, then simply skidding down the hill, perfectly in balance. This made up for the total pain the butt he was on easy trails!-----Original Message-----
From: Laney Humphrey <laneyh...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Tue, Sep 10, 2013 10:35 am
Subject: Re: [RC] Brumbys
I had an Arab like that. He could slither down a hill just like a gaited horse and on the trail going home where I wouldn't let him trot, he'd break into some sort of gait. I bothered to try to teach him a cue for it but just enjoyed it when he chose to do it.Laney--
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Becky/Sue Burkheart <b.sue.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
Some of my old-style foundation Arabs do a shuffling kind of gait, one older mare i have has quite a distinctive gait, more than the others. Her niece that i have has a very nice smooth trot and does drop into gait occasionally, but not on a regular basis.
Becky Burkheart
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On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Laney Humphrey <laneyh...@gmail.com> wrote:
Many of the horses the Spanish brought to the New World were gaited because at that time those were the popular riding horses. So the padres and women rode them and the knights rode their trotting chargers. But over the years gaitedness fell out of fashion and got un-selected for by breeders. Same as happened in many other breeds. The gene is still there is some SMs just as it is in some Arabians and now there is increased interest in gaited horses again. Lots of cowboys though, loved their "shuffling" horses. Laney--
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 3:56 AM, Karen Page <kmpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
A friend of mine used to work with a lot of mustangs. Many of them do what she called the mustang shuffle. I guess it's more efficient at covering long distances.Karen--
On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Kathy Mayeda <klma...@gmail.com> wrote:My friend Joann has a BLM mustang from the Nevada range that looks and moves Spanish. Her husband has a Kiger mustang. They both kinda wing and almost look somewhat gaited. You'll see them at the Fall QSER ride. They live real close.--K.
On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Laney Humphrey <laneyh...@gmail.com> wrote:
Several, including my Dino, have been very successful in endurance. And, if you're a history buff, it's kind of fun riding your very own Hidalgo, or the horse the Spaniards populated the Americas with, or a relative of Misty of Chincoteague. Laney--
On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 5:10 PM, k s swigart <kat...@att.net> wrote:
--Bruce said:
> As I watched this video, I was drooling over the prospect of what
> it would be like to campaign horses like this in endurance riding.
For anybody who would like to campaign a horse like this in endurance riding, the BLM Mustang (which is the American equivalent of a Brumby) can be had easily for a song. And those people who have campaigned them in endurance riding have mostly been quite successful at it.
One need not drool over it; one can just go do it.
kat
Orange County, Calif.
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Beau Joust is my horses registered name. He does have a tad bit of Crabbet.
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In 1984, I rode the second XP ride that Dave Nicholson put on. It started in north central Utah and finished in eastern Nevada, a point to point ride. On Day 1, I rode my husband’s best endurance horse, a half-Morgan, half-Percheron gelding, 16 hands high. He was a trotting fool. As I was nearing the finish line of that day, we were trotting along, and his trot got faster and faster until I could no longer post – and I realized he was not trotting, but gaiting. I just sat there and relaxed at about 15 mph or so. No one was near me with a vehicle, so I couldn’t really tell how fast he was going, but the 15 mph was a close guess. I was perfectly stunned at what was happening. I don’t think he ever did this before, or after. My husband wouldn’t have had him is such a fast trot that he would break into gaiting. But I had that short bit of excitement I will never forget.
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On Tue, 9/10/13, he...@sagehillcmk.com <he...@sagehillcmk.com> wrote:
Subject: RE: [RC] Gaited Arabians
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Date: Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 3:21 PM
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Date: Tuesday, September 10, 2013, 7:09 PM
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Laney Humphrey
Becky/Sue Burkheart
I would love to add any Arabs that gait to my list. I keep a record of who told me what, but need registered name if possible. There are definite patterns if you look at the pedigrees, but it's not just the Crabbet and Kellogg horses.
My mare that is distinctly gaited is ASF VANIAH, the young mare I have that will occasionally gait is MIREYENION TOS.
Sheri Devouassoux
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Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:37:54 -0500
Subject: Re: [RC] Gaited Arabians
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Susan Garlinghouse, DVM
So since we’re talking about gaited horses, does a running walk, stepping pace or any other gaits always involve that typical TW head nod? Or is that just some breeds or individuals but not across the board? I ask because my under-the-radar TWH John Henry definitely gaits, but his head movement is a back and forth lateral movement, never a definitive head nod. Just curious. I’m pretty much clueless about what gait he’s doing at any particular time, I just know they’re comfy, efficient and as stated earlier, he goes down hills like a greased eel.
Susan G
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Subject: RE: [RC] Gaited Arabians
My gelding was the same. He would immitate the Walker's gait when we were around them. He would also do it when I made him walk and he really wanted to trot. Incredibly comfy gate! Head bobbing down the trail fast as he could move those legs :-)
Sheri Devouassoux
Patricia Clark
Keith W. Kibler
The running walk, (three feet down) will have a head bob or head nod that is straight up and down. The amount of head bob or nod will vary and is sometimes dependent upon how much rear reach the horse under itself. I have done 2 hundreds in this gait.
Side to side is not a running walk.
A pace is where both feet on one side pick up and set down together. Can be VERY fast, but is like trying to ride on a rolling ship by a drunken sailor. Very difficult to even post. Other than their slightly longer back, it is the main reason pacing standard breds pull a cart on the track instead of carrying a rider. Yuck, no, double yuck.
Both legs on one side pick up together but set down syncopated is, depending upon your part of the country or group called:
1. Stepping pace, or
2. Broken Pace, or
3. Amble, or
4. Saddle Gait
All the same thing. Very efficient for the horse, equires a bit of posting and or some rider butt thumping. I have done 100s in this and did not like it.
One foot on the ground and three foot up is called, depending upon your group,
1. Racking gait, or
2. Single Foot.
This has the head swing, usually starts around 7-8 mph and can run up to 22 mph. That is what I have personally ridden in a rack on my oldest racking MFT BLues. It is an extremely comfortable gait to ride and we have done numerous 50s in this gait, but no 100s yet. It is not as efficient (imho) as the running walk, stepping pace or pace.
Of course you all know the canter and the gallop.
If you have head swing sideways it is not a running walk. If if is glass smooth, it is a rack. If not glass smooth it is probably a stepping pace or something inbetween. The in between gaits are called a variety of inconsistent names from
1. Rackalope
2. Cantalope
3. Rantor
all of these names are made up but you get the idea.
Sorry if this all sounded like a "know it all" type of responce. That is not my intent. Opinions on gait are like noses. Everyone has one.
Keith
Dawn Carrie
We had a gaited Arab gelding, HH Rafazon. I never knew exactly what it was that he did, but it was fast and I would sit it and we would fly. He did it when he wanted to trot and I would make him walk. He'd walk faster and faster, and then suddenly he would switch into this smooth, flying gait thing, and it was amazing. He was such an awesome horse. Wish we'd gotten him when he was younger...he was 23 when we got him. He would have loved endurance (of course, we weren't into endurance when we got him). He was still fat and sassy when we lost him, and I'd just ridden him 10 miles or so a few days before. Lost him to a freak accident at age 31...broken hip. :(
I would love to add any Arabs that gait to my list. I keep a record of who told me what, but need registered name if possible. There are definite patterns if you look at the pedigrees, but it's not just the Crabbet and Kellogg horses.Karen
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Keith W. Kibler
You can see why Dr G and I (and others) compete gaited horses. People think gaited horses are easier to ride. Frankly, this is just untrue. They are easier on the rider, if everything works right but they are more complicated to ride, let alone compete. Every horse is different even though many of them are very similar. The best gaited horse can have it's gait messed up to where it needs a "tune up" even though the new rider is the most experienced and well balanced trotting horse rider in the world if that rider does not get some gaited help.
But, when it works right, it is not only wonderful, it is delightful.
my 2 cents
Keith Kibler
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Laney Humphrey
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
first, it is not a running walk, at best it is a stepping pace, but I need to see more pictures. The bigger picture is the WAY over the top bling.
Dr G, you have completely confused JH. I am surprised he know whether you are going forward or backwords. :-)
Is this the Ca method of horse covering, or is it some sort of horse degredation?
just asking
Keith
n 9/11/2013 10:24 PM, Laney Humphrey wrote:
Susan, what gait JH is doing in the pic of you & JH that's on the "Horses in the Morning" page it isn't a running walk.� My guess would be step pace but more knowledgeable people than me might have other ideas.Laney
http://www.horsesinthemorning.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Susan-Garlinghouse-credit-Steve-Bradley.jpg
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Susan Garlinghouse, DVM <docgarl...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
So since we�re talking about gaited horses, does a running walk, stepping pace or any other gaits always involve that typical TW head nod?� Or is that just some breeds or individuals but not across the board?� I ask because my under-the-radar TWH John Henry definitely gaits, but his head movement is a back and forth lateral movement, never a definitive head nod.� Just curious.� I�m pretty much clueless about what gait he�s doing at any particular time, I just know they�re comfy, efficient and as stated earlier, he goes down hills like a greased eel.
Susan G
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Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:06 AM
To: ride...@endurance.net
Subject: RE: [RC] Gaited Arabians
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My gelding was the same.� He would immitate the Walker's gait when we were around them.� He would also do it when I made him walk and he really wanted to trot.� Incredibly comfy gate!� Head bobbing down the trail fast as he could move those legs :-)
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:37:54 -0500
Subject: Re: [RC] Gaited Arabians
From: sheridev...@gmail.com
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My Arabian gelding, EZ Season Ticket. gaited. �Back in the 90's before I started doing endurance I belonged to a local Walking Horse club in Maryland and did a bunch of trail rides with them. I was often the only one riding a trotting horse on these rides. One day, Ticket just started gaiting right down the trail. Just like he did it every day. � He only seemed to do it when he was alone or in the company of gaited horses. �If he was on the trail with trotting horses, he would only trot. �One day I was riding with a woman who was some mucky muck in the national Racking Horse Association. Maybe she was the secretary or vice president or something. �Anyway, she insisted that my Arabian gelding racked so well that he could be double registered as a racking horse and she was willing to sign the paperwork to make that happen. �I never did that, but found it interesting that someone who REALLY knew something about gaited horses could see that my horse was doing something kinda special. �Coincidentally, Ticket was also an Abu Farwa descendant.
�
I did a little trail ride last spring in VA with an Arabian that gaited. I followed him down the trail for seven miles. �His owner/rider insisted that his horse was just "prancing," not gaiting. �Um...no. �His horse could perform a running walk and rack as well as any Walking Horse out there. He did not trot one single step the whole ride. �I tried to get the registered name of the horse so I could have someone look him up on the Database. �The owner had no idea what the horse's registered name was, but said he would check the papers when he got home. �I never heard back from him. �That horse was ridden almost exclusively with gaited horses.
�
Sheri Devouassoux
Fort Rucker, AL
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On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Becky/Sue Burkheart <b.sue.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Karen Page <kmpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
I would love to add any Arabs that gait to my list. �I keep a record of who told me what, but need registered name if possible. �There are definite patterns if you look at the pedigrees, but it's not just the Crabbet and Kellogg horses.
�
jumping back in late after quite a few replies.� as you can see, it's mostly the older and foundation style lines that have the tendency.
My mare that is distinctly gaited is ASF VANIAH, the young mare I have that will occasionally gait is MIREYENION TOS.
Becky Burkheart
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
first, it is not a running walk, at best it is a stepping pace, but I need to see more pictures. The bigger picture is the WAY over the top bling.
Dr G, you have completely confused JH. I am surprised he know whether you are going forward or backwords. :-)
Is this the Ca method of horse covering, or is it some sort of horse degredation?
just asking
Keith
n 9/11/2013 10:24 PM, Laney Humphrey wrote:
Susan, what gait JH is doing in the pic of you & JH that's on the "Horses in the Morning" page it isn't a running walk. My guess would be step pace but more knowledgeable people than me might have other ideas.Laney
http://www.horsesinthemorning.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Susan-Garlinghouse-credit-Steve-Bradley.jpg
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Susan Garlinghouse, DVM <docgarl...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
So since we’re talking about gaited horses, does a running walk, stepping pace or any other gaits always involve that typical TW head nod? Or is that just some breeds or individuals but not across the board? I ask because my under-the-radar TWH John Henry definitely gaits, but his head movement is a back and forth lateral movement, never a definitive head nod. Just curious. I’m pretty much clueless about what gait he’s doing at any particular time, I just know they’re comfy, efficient and as stated earlier, he goes down hills like a greased eel.
Susan G
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Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:06 AM
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Subject: RE: [RC] Gaited Arabians
My gelding was the same. He would immitate the Walker's gait when we were around them. He would also do it when I made him walk and he really wanted to trot. Incredibly comfy gate! Head bobbing down the trail fast as he could move those legs :-)
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:37:54 -0500
Subject: Re: [RC] Gaited Arabians
From: sheridev...@gmail.com
To: ride...@endurance.net
My Arabian gelding, EZ Season Ticket. gaited. Back in the 90's before I started doing endurance I belonged to a local Walking Horse club in Maryland and did a bunch of trail rides with them. I was often the only one riding a trotting horse on these rides. One day, Ticket just started gaiting right down the trail. Just like he did it every day. He only seemed to do it when he was alone or in the company of gaited horses. If he was on the trail with trotting horses, he would only trot. One day I was riding with a woman who was some mucky muck in the national Racking Horse Association. Maybe she was the secretary or vice president or something. Anyway, she insisted that my Arabian gelding racked so well that he could be double registered as a racking horse and she was willing to sign the paperwork to make that happen. I never did that, but found it interesting that someone who REALLY knew something about gaited horses could see that my horse was doing something kinda special. Coincidentally, Ticket was also an Abu Farwa descendant.
I did a little trail ride last spring in VA with an Arabian that gaited. I followed him down the trail for seven miles. His owner/rider insisted that his horse was just "prancing," not gaiting. Um...no. His horse could perform a running walk and rack as well as any Walking Horse out there. He did not trot one single step the whole ride. I tried to get the registered name of the horse so I could have someone look him up on the Database. The owner had no idea what the horse's registered name was, but said he would check the papers when he got home. I never heard back from him. That horse was ridden almost exclusively with gaited horses.
Sheri Devouassoux
Fort Rucker, AL
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Becky/Sue Burkheart <b.sue.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Karen Page <kmpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
I would love to add any Arabs that gait to my list. I keep a record of who told me what, but need registered name if possible. There are definite patterns if you look at the pedigrees, but it's not just the Crabbet and Kellogg horses.
jumping back in late after quite a few replies. as you can see, it's mostly the older and foundation style lines that have the tendency.
My mare that is distinctly gaited is ASF VANIAH, the young mare I have that will occasionally gait is MIREYENION TOS.
Becky Burkheart
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Lynne Glazer
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
first, it is not a running walk, at best it is a stepping pace, but I need to see more pictures. The bigger picture is the WAY over the top bling.
Dr G, you have completely confused JH. I am surprised he know whether you are going forward or backwords. :-)
Is this the Ca method of horse covering, or is it some sort of horse degredation?
just asking
Keith
n 9/11/2013 10:24 PM, Laney Humphrey wrote:
Susan, what gait JH is doing in the pic of you & JH that's on the "Horses in the Morning" page it isn't a running walk. My guess would be step pace but more knowledgeable people than me might have other ideas.Laney
http://www.horsesinthemorning.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Susan-Garlinghouse-credit-Steve-Bradley.jpg
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Susan Garlinghouse, DVM <docgarl...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
So since we’re talking about gaited horses, does a running walk, stepping pace or any other gaits always involve that typical TW head nod? Or is that just some breeds or individuals but not across the board? I ask because my under-the-radar TWH John Henry definitely gaits, but his head movement is a back and forth lateral movement, never a definitive head nod. Just curious. I’m pretty much clueless about what gait he’s doing at any particular time, I just know they’re comfy, efficient and as stated earlier, he goes down hills like a greased eel.
Susan G
Keith W. Kibler
Susan and I have been talking gait in person, on line and privately for years.
�I do not know squat about a trotting arab or any of its hybrid gait, but I do know about gaited horses gaits. A stepping pace is not a hybrid gaited gait. That would be something that we were earlier discussing like a rackalope, cantalope or rantor. A stepping pace can be efficient, but is probably not more efficient than a running walk. It would take a gps and a heart rate monitor to tell for sure. Otherwise , it is just guessing. Gait on the fine JH horse is something Bruce and I also discussed several times.
� Many of the fine gaited horses in the past in the aerc where not competed in gait. I think this was often, if not almost always because the rider came from a trotting horse background and not a gaited horse background. The fact that the horse was allowed to move however could be because it was efficient, but not necessarily because it was the most efficient way for it to move. Riders who are used to riding trotting horses can many times put a horse into a movement like the stepping pace without knowing they are doing it. I have done both many 50s and some 100s in running walks, racks and stepping pace. It all depends upon the particular horse.
Keith
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On 9/11/2013 10:41 PM, Kathy Mayeda wrote:
You know what Keith? �What every John Henry does is obviously working for him, so who cares if Susan knows who to get him into the proper gait? �I imagine if he was made to hold "gait" for that many miles he wouldn't be as efficient, just like a dressage horse wouldn't be able to be ridden in frame for 50 miles!�
I heard Becky Hart's Rio did a hybrid gait, which seemed to serve him well, and he's a trottin' Arab. �(He never did that for me when I rode him in my lessons with Becky though.)
K.
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Keith W. Kibler <KWKi...@frontier.com> wrote:
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
first, it is not a running walk, at best it is a stepping pace, but I need to see more pictures. The bigger picture is the WAY over the top bling.
Dr G, you have completely confused JH. I am surprised he know whether you are going forward or backwords. :-)
Is this the Ca method of horse covering, or is it some sort of horse degredation?
just asking
Keith
n 9/11/2013 10:24 PM, Laney Humphrey wrote:
Susan, what gait JH is doing in the pic of you & JH that's on the "Horses in the Morning" page it isn't a running walk.� My guess would be step pace but more knowledgeable people than me might have other ideas.Laney
http://www.horsesinthemorning.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Susan-Garlinghouse-credit-Steve-Bradley.jpg
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Susan Garlinghouse, DVM <docgarl...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
So since we�re talking about gaited horses, does a running walk, stepping pace or any other gaits always involve that typical TW head nod?� Or is that just some breeds or individuals but not across the board?� I ask because my under-the-radar TWH John Henry definitely gaits, but his head movement is a back and forth lateral movement, never a definitive head nod.� Just curious.� I�m pretty much clueless about what gait he�s doing at any particular time, I just know they�re comfy, efficient and as stated earlier, he goes down hills like a greased eel.
Susan G
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Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:06 AM
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Subject: RE: [RC] Gaited Arabians
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My gelding was the same.� He would immitate the Walker's gait when we were around them.� He would also do it when I made him walk and he really wanted to trot.� Incredibly comfy gate!� Head bobbing down the trail fast as he could move those legs :-)
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:37:54 -0500
Subject: Re: [RC] Gaited Arabians
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My Arabian gelding, EZ Season Ticket. gaited. �Back in the 90's before I started doing endurance I belonged to a local Walking Horse club in Maryland and did a bunch of trail rides with them. I was often the only one riding a trotting horse on these rides. One day, Ticket just started gaiting right down the trail. Just like he did it every day. � He only seemed to do it when he was alone or in the company of gaited horses. �If he was on the trail with trotting horses, he would only trot. �One day I was riding with a woman who was some mucky muck in the national Racking Horse Association. Maybe she was the secretary or vice president or something. �Anyway, she insisted that my Arabian gelding racked so well that he could be double registered as a racking horse and she was willing to sign the paperwork to make that happen. �I never did that, but found it interesting that someone who REALLY knew something about gaited horses could see that my horse was doing something kinda special. �Coincidentally, Ticket was also an Abu Farwa descendant.
�
I did a little trail ride last spring in VA with an Arabian that gaited. I followed him down the trail for seven miles. �His owner/rider insisted that his horse was just "prancing," not gaiting. �Um...no. �His horse could perform a running walk and rack as well as any Walking Horse out there. He did not trot one single step the whole ride. �I tried to get the registered name of the horse so I could have someone look him up on the Database. �The owner had no idea what the horse's registered name was, but said he would check the papers when he got home. �I never heard back from him. �That horse was ridden almost exclusively with gaited horses.
�
Sheri Devouassoux
Fort Rucker, AL
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On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Becky/Sue Burkheart <b.sue.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Karen Page <kmpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
I would love to add any Arabs that gait to my list. �I keep a record of who told me what, but need registered name if possible. �There are definite patterns if you look at the pedigrees, but it's not just the Crabbet and Kellogg horses.
�
jumping back in late after quite a few replies.� as you can see, it's mostly the older and foundation style lines that have the tendency.
My mare that is distinctly gaited is ASF VANIAH, the young mare I have that will occasionally gait is MIREYENION TOS.
Becky Burkheart
BeckyBurkheart.com�~ Gritty, sensual mythology, dark fantasy & science fiction ~ (Stay updated!)
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
first, it is not a running walk, at best it is a stepping pace, but I need to see more pictures. The bigger picture is the WAY over the top bling.
Dr G, you have completely confused JH. I am surprised he know whether you are going forward or backwords. :-)
Is this the Ca method of horse covering, or is it some sort of horse degredation?
just asking
Keith
n 9/11/2013 10:24 PM, Laney Humphrey wrote:
Susan, what gait JH is doing in the pic of you & JH that's on the "Horses in the Morning" page it isn't a running walk. My guess would be step pace but more knowledgeable people than me might have other ideas.Laney
http://www.horsesinthemorning.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Susan-Garlinghouse-credit-Steve-Bradley.jpg
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Susan Garlinghouse, DVM <docgarl...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
So since we’re talking about gaited horses, does a running walk, stepping pace or any other gaits always involve that typical TW head nod? Or is that just some breeds or individuals but not across the board? I ask because my under-the-radar TWH John Henry definitely gaits, but his head movement is a back and forth lateral movement, never a definitive head nod. Just curious. I’m pretty much clueless about what gait he’s doing at any particular time, I just know they’re comfy, efficient and as stated earlier, he goes down hills like a greased eel.
Susan G
From: hotmail_e14d...@live.com [mailto:hotmail_e14d...@live.com] On Behalf Of karen standefer
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:06 AM
To: ride...@endurance.net
Subject: RE: [RC] Gaited Arabians
My gelding was the same. He would immitate the Walker's gait when we were around them. He would also do it when I made him walk and he really wanted to trot. Incredibly comfy gate! Head bobbing down the trail fast as he could move those legs :-)
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:37:54 -0500
Subject: Re: [RC] Gaited Arabians
From: sheridev...@gmail.com
To: ride...@endurance.net
My Arabian gelding, EZ Season Ticket. gaited. Back in the 90's before I started doing endurance I belonged to a local Walking Horse club in Maryland and did a bunch of trail rides with them. I was often the only one riding a trotting horse on these rides. One day, Ticket just started gaiting right down the trail. Just like he did it every day. He only seemed to do it when he was alone or in the company of gaited horses. If he was on the trail with trotting horses, he would only trot. One day I was riding with a woman who was some mucky muck in the national Racking Horse Association. Maybe she was the secretary or vice president or something. Anyway, she insisted that my Arabian gelding racked so well that he could be double registered as a racking horse and she was willing to sign the paperwork to make that happen. I never did that, but found it interesting that someone who REALLY knew something about gaited horses could see that my horse was doing something kinda special. Coincidentally, Ticket was also an Abu Farwa descendant.
I did a little trail ride last spring in VA with an Arabian that gaited. I followed him down the trail for seven miles. His owner/rider insisted that his horse was just "prancing," not gaiting. Um...no. His horse could perform a running walk and rack as well as any Walking Horse out there. He did not trot one single step the whole ride. I tried to get the registered name of the horse so I could have someone look him up on the Database. The owner had no idea what the horse's registered name was, but said he would check the papers when he got home. I never heard back from him. That horse was ridden almost exclusively with gaited horses.
Sheri Devouassoux
Fort Rucker, AL
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Becky/Sue Burkheart <b.sue.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Karen Page <kmpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
I would love to add any Arabs that gait to my list. I keep a record of who told me what, but need registered name if possible. There are definite patterns if you look at the pedigrees, but it's not just the Crabbet and Kellogg horses.
jumping back in late after quite a few replies. as you can see, it's mostly the older and foundation style lines that have the tendency.
My mare that is distinctly gaited is ASF VANIAH, the young mare I have that will occasionally gait is MIREYENION TOS.
Becky Burkheart
BeckyBurkheart.com ~ Gritty, sensual mythology, dark fantasy & science fiction ~ (Stay updated!)
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Kathy Mayeda
You know what Kathy? You came into a conversation you did not understand. I was poking fun at Dr G because of her outlandish bling.
Susan and I have been talking gait in person, on line and privately for years.
I do not know squat about a trotting arab or any of its hybrid gait, but I do know about gaited horses gaits. A stepping pace is not a hybrid gaited gait. That would be something that we were earlier discussing like a rackalope, cantalope or rantor. A stepping pace can be efficient, but is probably not more efficient than a running walk. It would take a gps and a heart rate monitor to tell for sure. Otherwise , it is just guessing. Gait on the fine JH horse is something Bruce and I also discussed several times.
Many of the fine gaited horses in the past in the aerc where not competed in gait. I think this was often, if not almost always because the rider came from a trotting horse background and not a gaited horse background. The fact that the horse was allowed to move however could be because it was efficient, but not necessarily because it was the most efficient way for it to move. Riders who are used to riding trotting horses can many times put a horse into a movement like the stepping pace without knowing they are doing it. I have done both many 50s and some 100s in running walks, racks and stepping pace. It all depends upon the particular horse.
Keith
On 9/11/2013 10:41 PM, Kathy Mayeda wrote:
You know what Keith? What every John Henry does is obviously working for him, so who cares if Susan knows who to get him into the proper gait? I imagine if he was made to hold "gait" for that many miles he wouldn't be as efficient, just like a dressage horse wouldn't be able to be ridden in frame for 50 miles!
I heard Becky Hart's Rio did a hybrid gait, which seemed to serve him well, and he's a trottin' Arab. (He never did that for me when I rode him in my lessons with Becky though.)
K.
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Keith W. Kibler <KWKi...@frontier.com> wrote:
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
first, it is not a running walk, at best it is a stepping pace, but I need to see more pictures. The bigger picture is the WAY over the top bling.
Dr G, you have completely confused JH. I am surprised he know whether you are going forward or backwords. :-)
Is this the Ca method of horse covering, or is it some sort of horse degredation?
just asking
Keith
n 9/11/2013 10:24 PM, Laney Humphrey wrote:
Susan, what gait JH is doing in the pic of you & JH that's on the "Horses in the Morning" page it isn't a running walk. My guess would be step pace but more knowledgeable people than me might have other ideas.Laney
http://www.horsesinthemorning.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Susan-Garlinghouse-credit-Steve-Bradley.jpg
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Susan Garlinghouse, DVM <docgarl...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
So since we’re talking about gaited horses, does a running walk, stepping pace or any other gaits always involve that typical TW head nod? Or is that just some breeds or individuals but not across the board? I ask because my under-the-radar TWH John Henry definitely gaits, but his head movement is a back and forth lateral movement, never a definitive head nod. Just curious. I’m pretty much clueless about what gait he’s doing at any particular time, I just know they’re comfy, efficient and as stated earlier, he goes down hills like a greased eel.
Susan G
From: hotmail_e14d...@live.com [mailto:hotmail_e14d...@live.com] On Behalf Of karen standefer
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:06 AM
To: ride...@endurance.net
Subject: RE: [RC] Gaited Arabians
My gelding was the same. He would immitate the Walker's gait when we were around them. He would also do it when I made him walk and he really wanted to trot. Incredibly comfy gate! Head bobbing down the trail fast as he could move those legs :-)
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:37:54 -0500
Subject: Re: [RC] Gaited Arabians
From: sheridev...@gmail.com
To: ride...@endurance.net
My Arabian gelding, EZ Season Ticket. gaited. Back in the 90's before I started doing endurance I belonged to a local Walking Horse club in Maryland and did a bunch of trail rides with them. I was often the only one riding a trotting horse on these rides. One day, Ticket just started gaiting right down the trail. Just like he did it every day. He only seemed to do it when he was alone or in the company of gaited horses. If he was on the trail with trotting horses, he would only trot. One day I was riding with a woman who was some mucky muck in the national Racking Horse Association. Maybe she was the secretary or vice president or something. Anyway, she insisted that my Arabian gelding racked so well that he could be double registered as a racking horse and she was willing to sign the paperwork to make that happen. I never did that, but found it interesting that someone who REALLY knew something about gaited horses could see that my horse was doing something kinda special. Coincidentally, Ticket was also an Abu Farwa descendant.
I did a little trail ride last spring in VA with an Arabian that gaited. I followed him down the trail for seven miles. His owner/rider insisted that his horse was just "prancing," not gaiting. Um...no. His horse could perform a running walk and rack as well as any Walking Horse out there. He did not trot one single step the whole ride. I tried to get the registered name of the horse so I could have someone look him up on the Database. The owner had no idea what the horse's registered name was, but said he would check the papers when he got home. I never heard back from him. That horse was ridden almost exclusively with gaited horses.
Sheri Devouassoux
Fort Rucker, AL
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Becky/Sue Burkheart <b.sue.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Karen Page <kmpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
I would love to add any Arabs that gait to my list. I keep a record of who told me what, but need registered name if possible. There are definite patterns if you look at the pedigrees, but it's not just the Crabbet and Kellogg horses.
jumping back in late after quite a few replies. as you can see, it's mostly the older and foundation style lines that have the tendency.
My mare that is distinctly gaited is ASF VANIAH, the young mare I have that will occasionally gait is MIREYENION TOS.
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faster you go the smoother it gets. I've never let her go full speed
as it would be too scary and dangerous unless on a track. Her canter
is verrry nice too. Her trot - not bad but not super smooth. Her slow
walk is fine, her fast walk is more of a strut and tiring for the
rider - and it seems inefficient - I'd rather trot.
Recently we've been doing a lot of 5 mile walking rides due to coming
off a foot problem and also due to the slower company we've been
keeping. I find I'm getting sore muscles on these walking rides while
I don't get sore muscles (once I'm fit) than on a usual training ride
of 10 miles and a combination of walk/trot/canter. I suppose it's
partly because I'm not used to it but it got me wondering whether,
when you have a gaited horse, since (I presume) you are sitting in the
same position (are you?) for much more of the time, do you end up with
more sore muscles. Or maybe the word would be stiff muscles. Or just a
sore butt from not changing things up as much?
I always thought maybe when I get old I'll get a gaited horse, but
after this bout of walking, I wonder. I'm looking forward to getting
back to trotting, posting, and cantering soon!
As far as back pain - when I don't ride much (or do as much of any
type of physical activity) in the winter, I wake up every morning with
back pain. Soon after I get back to the swing of riding in Spring, my
back pain is GONE. I can't be the only one - pretty sure a lot of back
pain is simply lack of muscle tone which lets things fall out of
place.
Karen in MT
AERC # M39603
www.allthingsendurance.com
Bonnie
baced or not riding with the gaited horse. IF you just sit there and
done move with the horse or if you are braced, then you will get sore.
However, the best way to ride a gaited horse is relax and move with the
horse. At first, better to relax and let the horse move you as you get
into it, then you start moving with the horse. This will loosen up your
back and neck. If you are dependent on the reins for balancing or
depend too much on the stirrups, then it is quite possible you will get
sore. However, I have found that riding a gaited horse makes my back
feel great. I have ridden a great many different gaited horse breeds:
Paso Fino, Peruvian Paso, Missouri Foxtrotter, Tennessee Walking Horse,
Standardbred, Tiger Horse, gaited Appaloosa (Foundation bred).
Not all gaited horses move the same. While I don't have a problem
riding different breeds some people seem to be able to only ride horses
that more square moving and have trouble riding the lateral horses. My
suggestion is to really really relax. Drink a beer or two or a glass of
wine if you need to (I don't suggest drinking and riding normally) or
relax like you have had a couple. GEt in tune with the horse. Also,
ride several different types of gaited horses try some really square
horses that just stay in a four beat gait try some lateral ones. Try a
foxtrotter that can truly foxtrot. (some people will call any gait a
foxtrot if the horse is a MFT
Find what works best for you and your body.
What people need to keep in mind is that not all trotting horses move
the same. I have ridden some trotting horses who are jack hammers, some
that have huge extended trot with lots of up and down and I have ridden
trotting horses that just mover along without much effort who cover
ground, but aren't what many would call big flashy movers. All horses
are different be they trotters or gaiters ;-) It can be hard for people
who aren't experienced gaited horse riders to find those really smooth
gaits if a horse likes to do a camel walk or break to a pace. They rush
through their gaits to go fast because that is what they have been
trained to do or
let do. Best thing you can do for those horses is slow down and take
some time going slow so the horse can relearn those slower but very nice
gaits like the running walk. As they build up muscle memory, then the
running walk can speed up and they can hold that gait all day long
without someone cranking back on the reins to hold the horse in frame.
What you really want in a gaited horse is a horse that will gait on a
loose rein. It is quite possible to develop this type of horse and they
do well in endurance, but too many gaited horses are brought along with
the head cranked back and the rider braced in the stirrups with the legs
almost straight.
This tends to hollow the horses back and cause the horse to move towards
the pacey side. Throw in a long shanked walking horse bit and an ill
fitting saddle and may of these gaited horses are moving past their nice
soft gaits so they can speed up brace their backs and escape the pain.
They learn this way of going and it can take a little time and work to
get them back to going soft and balanced.
I am with you on the back pain thing. What is one of the best ways to
keep your back feeling good? Keep your core muscles in shape and good
posture. What is one of the greatest
exercises for keeping all those core muscles in shape, horse back riding
;-) You have to hold yourself up and use your muscles for balance at
all times even when you aren't thinking about it.
Now this was concerning another post. I have the problem with my knees
was told I had it over twenty years ago. I have found that riding
tights push my knee caps back onto my knees hard enough that it makes it
hurt. Solution, don't wear riding tights or have them loose enough so
they don't put pressure on the knee caps. I am guessing that when you
are trotting, that it moves the pressure off the knee, riding tights
loosen up at the knee when the knee straightens during posting but
riding a gaited horse you knee is bent most of the time since you rarely
get up in the stirrups.
bonnie
>>>>> Or is that just some breeds or individuals but not across the board? I ask
>>>>> because my under-the-radar TWH John Henry definitely gaits, but his head
>>>>> movement is a back and forth lateral movement, never a definitive head nod.
>>>>> particular time, I just know they�re comfy, efficient and as stated earlier,
endurancehorsemt
fat/wider backed horse along with my slender TB. Maybe again it was
partly due to what I was used to, but I could ride the narrow horse
for 10 miles with no knee pain, whereas if I rode the fat one just a
mile or two, wow, did my knees hurt, especially when first getting off
the horse.
>>>>>> nod?
>>>>>> Or is that just some breeds or individuals but not across the board?
>>>>>> I ask
>>>>>> because my under-the-radar TWH John Henry definitely gaits, but his
>>>>>> head
>>>>>> movement is a back and forth lateral movement, never a definitive head
>>>>>> nod.
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> particular time, I just know they’re comfy, efficient and as stated
Keith W. Kibler
I would add that in my experiance of riding a large number of gaited
horses is that, if you are having back pain and are in reasonable shape
one of three things is happening:
1. You are not appropriately balanced. For me, the alignment of your
back should not be forward and sometimes not exactly in the same
straight manner as riding a trot. (that comment will get me flamed here
i betcha) What I would call, "sitting on your back pockets" would be
better. Many riders tend to lean forward a bit and this is usually
detrimental to a gaited horse moving at it's best. At least with most
twhs or horses descended from TWH bloodlines, more weight needs to be on
their rear end to help them reach and engage more from the rear.
2. Several of you have said twhs are "rough". Not generally my
experience and if so one of two things are going on (at least in my past
experiance)
A. It is a "camel walk", the horse is strung out, not engaging its
rear end and that is almost always correctable through training. It
could also be a matter of too long of toes, the nose being too high and
no collection or proper head set. It could also have a relation to the
horse not relaxing at the pole and being out of shape, or slab sided.
B. If you are going faster than a walk and the twh is rough enough to
be rough, you have gait issues. Almost always fixable. It might be
mostly the horse, but it is usually also having something to do with the
human.
We breed, raise and compete both twhs and mfts. Most of the mfts we have
and have had have foundation bloodline from the twh world when the books
of the mftba were opened to allow that. The more of the twh bloodline in
the mft horse you have the less likely your mft will foxtrot. Most mfts
I have been around and ridden do not foxtrot, but almost everyone things
their mft does. I dont mind if one of my mft performs the foxtrot but I
expect it to running walk and rack and if I have to choose, the foxtrot
can fade away. It is not as smooth or fast as the other gaits.
twhs can and should be smooth. Not all of them are perfect, but most
of them are really, really smooth.
my 2cents
Keith
http://shawneesunrisefarm.net/
Bonnie
write it.
bonnie
>>>>>>> nod?
>>>>>>> Or is that just some breeds or individuals but not across the board?
>>>>>>> I ask
>>>>>>> because my under-the-radar TWH John Henry definitely gaits, but his
>>>>>>> head
>>>>>>> movement is a back and forth lateral movement, never a definitive head
>>>>>>> nod.
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> particular time, I just know they�re comfy, efficient and as stated
endurancehorsemt
It was just a general comment about knee pain - but I probably should
have left it to another topic as my comment has nothing to do with
gaited horses! Who's on first?
>>>>>>>> nod?
>>>>>>>> Or is that just some breeds or individuals but not across the board?
>>>>>>>> I ask
>>>>>>>> because my under-the-radar TWH John Henry definitely gaits, but his
>>>>>>>> head
>>>>>>>> movement is a back and forth lateral movement, never a definitive
>>>>>>>> head
>>>>>>>> nod.
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>> particular time, I just know they’re comfy, efficient and as stated
Bonnie
horses or when they were riding their gaited horse who kept getting the
horse to trot or pace. Leaning forward sometimes just a bit asks the
horse to trot. If the horse is already prone to trot, the horse is just
doing as you asked it to do. Sometimes people who have been riding
trotting horses a long time have problems overcoming this and don't even
realized they are doing it. Takes someone observing them ride of video
so they can correct the problem and even then, they
may still have a tendency to lean forward to even leaning forward to
urge the horse to move forward. It causes the horse to get on the
forehand. If the horse is lateral and not prone to trot at liberty or
even pace at liberty, then leaning forward can cause the horse to pace.
Once again it throws the horse off balance strings them out and gets
them moving more on the front end. It is enough to cause the horse to pace.
The camel walk, again, exactly. Yes some horses have a camel walk they
are usually very lateral movers. The camel walk doesn't bother me much
but I like lateral movers. However I wouldn't want to ride it for miles
and miles ;-) I either slow the horse down and ask them to collect up
or I ask them to very gradually move the speed up to a running walk.
bonnie
Sherry Morse
Sherry
Subject: Re: [RC] Gaited Arabians
KSherman
On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 4:32:38 PM UTC-7, Kathy Mayeda wrote:
Beau Joust is my horses registered name. He does have a tad bit of Crabbet.
On Sep 10, 2013 2:57 PM, "Karen Page" <kmpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
I would love to add any Arabs that gait to my list. I keep a record of who told me what, but need registered name if possible. There are definite patterns if you look at the pedigrees, but it's not just the Crabbet and Kellogg horses.Karen
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:50 PM, <chi...@aol.com> wrote:
My 26 year old Arab used to gait when he got mad at me when I wouldn't let him trot. It wasn't just a fast walk, it was a true "gait"....the whole cadence of his footfalls changed, he became very light in his front end, his head would nod and his teeth would click in rhythm. He was also a dynamo going down hills...I remember him getting to the top of a steep muddy hill and kind of adjusting his feet, then simply skidding down the hill, perfectly in balance. This made up for the total pain the butt he was on easy trails!-----Original Message-----
From: Laney Humphrey <laneyh...@gmail.com>
To: ridecamp <ride...@endurance.net>
Sent: Tue, Sep 10, 2013 10:35 am
Subject: Re: [RC] Brumbys
I had an Arab like that. He could slither down a hill just like a gaited horse and on the trail going home where I wouldn't let him trot, he'd break into some sort of gait. I bothered to try to teach him a cue for it but just enjoyed it when he chose to do it.Laney
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Becky/Sue Burkheart <b.sue.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
Some of my old-style foundation Arabs do a shuffling kind of gait, one older mare i have has quite a distinctive gait, more than the others. Her niece that i have has a very nice smooth trot and does drop into gait occasionally, but not on a regular basis.
Becky Burkheart
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On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Laney Humphrey <laneyh...@gmail.com> wrote:
Many of the horses the Spanish brought to the New World were gaited because at that time those were the popular riding horses. So the padres and women rode them and the knights rode their trotting chargers. But over the years gaitedness fell out of fashion and got un-selected for by breeders. Same as happened in many other breeds. The gene is still there is some SMs just as it is in some Arabians and now there is increased interest in gaited horses again. Lots of cowboys though, loved their "shuffling" horses. Laney
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 3:56 AM, Karen Page <kmpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
A friend of mine used to work with a lot of mustangs. Many of them do what she called the mustang shuffle. I guess it's more efficient at covering long distances.
Karen
On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Kathy Mayeda <klma...@gmail.com> wrote:
My friend Joann has a BLM mustang from the Nevada range that looks and moves Spanish. Her husband has a Kiger mustang. They both kinda wing and almost look somewhat gaited. You'll see them at the Fall QSER ride. They live real close.
K.
On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Laney Humphrey <laneyh...@gmail.com> wrote:
Several, including my Dino, have been very successful in endurance. And, if you're a history buff, it's kind of fun riding your very own Hidalgo, or the horse the Spaniards populated the Americas with, or a relative of Misty of Chincoteague. Laney
On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 5:10 PM, k s swigart <kat...@att.net> wrote:
Bruce said:
> As I watched this video, I was drooling over the prospect of what
> it would be like to campaign horses like this in endurance riding.
For anybody who would like to campaign a horse like this in endurance riding, the BLM Mustang (which is the American equivalent of a Brumby) can be had easily for a song. And those people who have campaigned them in endurance riding have mostly been quite successful at it.
One need not drool over it; one can just go do it.
kat
Orange County, Calif.
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