Little S Hackamore

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Jerri Larsen

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Aug 20, 2010, 11:35:18 AM8/20/10
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Can someone please give me a lesson on how to put this thing on a
horse... I have always used a bitless bridle... have the neighbors
horse and bought this for it.... woman said that is what she
needed.... anyway, I have no idea how tight to hook it, or even how
to hook it...

Please advice..

thank you

Lif Strand

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Aug 20, 2010, 11:47:04 AM8/20/10
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At 09:35 AM 8/20/2010, Jerri Larsen wrote:
>I have always used a bitless bridle... have the neighbors horse and
>bought this for it.... woman said that is what she needed....
>anyway, I have no idea how tight to hook it, or even how to hook it...

You should be aware that a hackamore is very different from a bitless
bridle. If you're not trained in how to use a hackamore, I'd be
hesitant to advise you to use one. Hackamores can cause pain and
swelling on the nose and jaw if used improperly and add improper
fitting and you can end up with damaged nose cartilage - even broken bones.
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Beth Walker

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Aug 20, 2010, 2:27:05 PM8/20/10
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True, but there are some tips that will help. I would advise you to find someone to actually look at it while on the horse to make sure you have it adjusted properly.

I can send you some pictures, so you can see what attaches to what. I adjust the nose rope so it is maybe one inch below the cheekbones. That keeps it off the cartilage and on the nose bone. Curb chain should be fairly loose. I can fit 2-3 fingers under the chain.

I'll try to take some pictures and send them privately.

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Sandy Page

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Aug 20, 2010, 1:32:57 PM8/20/10
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i take off the hard nose band and macremae one in tack colors. some
of the online stores like runningbear.com have pictures of how to hook
them just like bit too bridle and not too low sandy

Kathy Sherman

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Aug 20, 2010, 10:33:58 PM8/20/10
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Little S hackamores are for horses that are pretty easy to control as
they don't have much "whoa". So hopefully, that describes your
neighbors horse and there won't be any reason to pull so hard as to
cause pain and damage. Little Ss are much milder than mechanical
hackamores, which use a lot of leverage force and can cause much pain
and a strong reactions. I use a little S on my horses that need to be
ridden with something a little stronger than a rope halter.


Kathy

Jonni

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Aug 21, 2010, 12:39:32 PM8/21/10
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You can see a pic on Tammys site:

http://www.trail-rite.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=85

I bought a tennis racket (or golf club) wrap, and put it on over the
rope noseband. It is smoother than vet wrap and not gather dirt as
easy or get hard and crusty like vet wrap, and a really cheap fix if
you don't want to spend money on the biothane replacement nosebands.
The rope noseband can rub the hair off. I also replace the chain curb
and S hooks with a macrame curb strap I found, that will tie on
through the holes the hooks were in.

Like ANY bit, hackamore, bitless bride etc, it is only as harsh as the
hands that use it. Any of them can cause pain to the horse if used
incorrectly. I find the S Hacks pretty mild, and not good on a horse
that is chargy or strong at the beginning of a ride.

Jonni

Beth Walker

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Aug 21, 2010, 3:39:33 PM8/21/10
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Much better picture than the one I sent. I used the latex bit wrap to wrap the nose, and then cover it with the fuzzy cover Tammy sells. I tried wrapping the curb chain the same way, and ended up with no brakes. :)

I agree that as mechanical hackamores go, it is pretty mild, but I think it is more severe than a bitless, which is what she is used to.

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Shannon Loomis

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Aug 21, 2010, 4:25:48 PM8/21/10
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This is definitely true - I can ride my horse in a snaffle or the
mechanical hacks with the leather and fleece noses, but the little S
hackamores don't even register in his little brain.... In fact, none
of my horses has reliable brakes in one of these, which is a shame
because I have a very pretty one that matches my tack beautifully!

Shannon

Jerri Larsen

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Sep 19, 2010, 9:42:30 AM9/19/10
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I have always used the bitless bridle... trying to hook up a bit on
this new headstall....How do you get the chicago screws tight? The
bottom one just keeps turning. It seems like these would work lose
so easy.... advice please...

Thank you
Jerri

Amber Roberts

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Sep 19, 2010, 10:06:12 AM9/19/10
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When I used them, my husband always put Lock Tight on them.

Amber

Cora

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Sep 19, 2010, 10:20:32 AM9/19/10
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clear nail polish works...Cora

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Lori Bertolucci

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Sep 19, 2010, 10:38:28 AM9/19/10
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The one that keeps turning sounds defective. Replace it for one that will tighten down, then add either Locktite of nail polish.


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Subject: Re: [RC] Chicago Screws

clear nail polish works...Cora

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Subject: [RC] Chicago Screws


> I have always used the bitless bridle... trying to hook up a bit on
> this new headstall....How do you get the chicago screws tight?  The
> bottom one just keeps turning.  It seems like these would work lose
> so easy.... advice please...
>
> Thank you
> Jerri
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Sandy Adams

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Sep 19, 2010, 10:45:40 AM9/19/10
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Are you gripping the offside screw with pliers or something? If not, that is probably the issue - clamp that sucker down, since it is not a form of carriage bolt. You need a flat head screw driver AND something with which to grip the offside. Just wondering. 
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Lori Bertolucci

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Sep 19, 2010, 10:47:22 AM9/19/10
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I hate Chicago screws...they are not the safest way to attach a bit. I will not even buy a bridle with them, if I can help it.


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Bill Johnson

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Sep 19, 2010, 11:25:12 AM9/19/10
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I’m with Lori on this one. Bridles with buckles are the way to go. Can’t tell you how many times I had to put a zip-tie where a chicago screw fell out on a ride.

If you do use locktite, use the blue stuff for small screws. You may not get the red to release without heat.


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Rae Callaway

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Sep 19, 2010, 11:32:49 AM9/19/10
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I always used a dab of nail polish. :o)

Rae


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Kathy Sherman

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Sep 19, 2010, 1:10:07 PM9/19/10
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I hate them too, have had headstalls fall apart while riding and seen
others out on the trail do the same. Make sure you keep a piece of
leather string or a ziptie on you while riding.

Kathy

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jamie ward

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Sep 19, 2010, 1:20:31 PM9/19/10
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I don't know if someone has suggested this or not but we just wrap a little electrical tape tightly around the screws once or twice. never had a problem with one working lose that way  and we have Chicago screws on our rains. you can get the tape in all kinds of colors so it can blend right in too :-)

 
 
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Date: Sunday, September 19, 2010, 8:32 AM

I always used a dab of nail polish. :o)

Rae


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>I have always used the bitless bridle... trying to hook up a bit on
> this new headstall....How do you get the chicago screws tight?  The
> bottom one just keeps turning.  It seems like these would work lose
> so easy.... advice please...
>
> Thank you
> Jerri


When I used them, my husband always put Lock Tight on them.

Amber

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